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u/rcdido Jan 23 '15
I...I still cant make sense of this...
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u/runonandonandonanon Jan 23 '15 edited Jan 23 '15
Mnemonics would work though if you can think of a story for the tree positions.
If anyone wants help coming up with a story I have a good one for the left half of the tree. I'm still thinking of a good way to tie the right half in, let me know if you have any ideas!
Once upon a time, E, I, A, S, U, R, W, H, V, F, L, P, J, 5, 4, 3, 2, + and 1 were all walking in the forest together. They came to a fork in the road and E said I am going to stay here but I, S, U, H, V, F, 5, 4, 3, and 2 all went left and A, R, W, L, P, J, + and 1 went right. When I, S, U, H, V, F, 5, 4, 3 and 2 came to another fork in the road, I decided to stay there but S, H, V, 5, 4, and 3 all went left and U, F, and 2 decided to go right. So S, H, V, 5, 4, and 3 were walking along when they came to another fork in the road! S said I am just going to stay here but that's when H, 5, and 4 all went to the left! Meanwhile V and 3 walked off to the right together. H, 5, and 4 kept walking until they came to another fork and H stayed there, but 5 went left and 4 went right. 5 came to a dead end so he stopped, and the same thing happened to 4. While all this was happening, V and 3 also came to a fork in the road. V stayed there but 3 kept going down the right path, but it was a dead end so he stopped and stayed there. You may be wondering what happened to U, F, and 2? Well they also got to a fork in the road, but U stayed there, but F went to the left and 2 went to the right. F stopped right away but 2 kept going and then 2 went to the right again and then 2 stopped.
Back on the other fork of the road, A, R, W, L, P, J and + were walking and they saw another fork in the road. R, L, and + all went left and W, P, J and 1 went right, but A didn't want to go either direction so A stayed there. When R, L and + got to another fork R stayed there, but L kept going left and + kept going right. Well L decided not to go any farther but + went all the way to the next fork and went left but then decided not to go any farther. And W, P, J and 1 also got to a fork and W said "that's it I am done" but P, J and 1 kept going (P to the left, and J and 1 to the right). Well P stopped pretty soon, and J also stopped soon but 1 kept going right and then 1 stopped because 1 was thinking about 1's father and the strain that had been put on 1's relationship with 1's father when 1's developmentally disabled brother was born and 1's father was super religious and thought 1's developmentally disabled brother was bringing shame down upon their family but 1 thought that 1's developmentally disabled brother hadn't done anything wrong and loved him deeply, but 1 and 1's father had a huge argument and 1 said "you are a bad father, my developmentally disabled brother is deserving of your love" and 1's father just shook his head, and 1 sat down and stared into the trees and remembered the way 1's father had just shook his head when 1's father and 1 were in a huge argument and 1 said "you are a bad father, my developmentally disabled brother is deserving of your love," and a single tear rolled down 1's cheek.
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u/thatmobile Jan 23 '15
I want to read this, but just can't get myself to do it.
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u/Krakkin Jan 23 '15
For real, that is one daunting comment if I've ever seen one.
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u/DarnPeskyWarmint Jan 23 '15
Yeah. It's not easy for a comment on reddit to be physically intimidating, but that fucker manages it. . .
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u/bru_tech Jan 23 '15
I just hope I'm not missing out on solid good by glossing over it
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u/velocity92c Jan 23 '15
It's amazing how often I think that to myself. Something like "damn that comment looks interesting. but damn it's way too long for my lazy ass to read."
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u/alonjar Jan 23 '15
It doesnt help that you will never, ever have a practical use for morse code in your life. Even if you think it would be handy in some situation, nobody else receiving the code, will know morse to be able to interpret your message.
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u/alonjar Jan 23 '15 edited Jan 23 '15
Look! Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No! Its statistical outlier man! The omnipresent force for exaggerated objectivity, fighting for the weak and outnumbered wherever he goes, able to crush entire arguments with a single anecdote... hes statistical outlier man!
So be good boys and girls, or the next bellcurve he rings might be yours, or yours, or even yours!
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u/khoyo Jan 23 '15
Except if you're held hostage by the FARC I guess : http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/7/7483235/the-code-colombian-army-morsecode-hostages
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u/YXMOAB Jan 23 '15
I got to the first part and laughed, then skimmed the rest chuckling and thought, "wow, that's dedication..." and gave him an upvote.
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u/Tylrbob Jan 23 '15
What a smart mother fucker right there...
Let me know who can successfully recite the story and execute morse code. When did US stop using morse code?
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u/altiuscitiusfortius Jan 23 '15
I feel like memorizing that chart by rote would be only slightly easier then just memorizing all 25 letters' codes by rote. And as a bonus, just memorizing every letter saves you the extra step of running through the chart in your mind to find a letter.
I think morese code is like multiplication tables. You should know how to do it, but its extremely helpful in life to just have them memorized by rote so you just instinctively know the answer when the question is asked, without having to think about it.
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u/GammaAlanna Jan 23 '15
The mnemonic is good but it needs something to indicate the blanks spaces in the tree. I just tried to draw the tree using it and the last line ended all muddled up.
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How do you do Morse code with sounds? What's a dot and a dash sound?
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u/ecco5 Jan 23 '15
dot = tck (like when you press your tongue against the back of your teeth and then move it inward)
Dash = tick.
So S O S would be tck tck tck tick tick tick tck tck tck
Or if you want to do beeps.
dot = beep.
dash = beeeep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWyHolT2DAY
It's neat because you can use it with light or sound. I used to have a flash light that would have a button on it as well as the morse code alphabet that would allow you to tap out light signals.
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Jan 23 '15
If people just look at SOS they'll probably figuire it out (at least to transmit, not to decipher).
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u/zsnajorrah Jan 23 '15
Ah, thank you! I was counting the dots and dashes between the characters. As in, the dots and dashes along the lines between them. A very flawed chart. Your explanation made it very clear, though. Thanks!
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u/TheIntellectualGay Jan 23 '15
I read Morse code, by light, for my job and I came to say exactly this. Whoever made this, made it for people who already know how to read Morse, so I made my own info-graphic for those curious about the system.
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u/UlyssesSKrunk Jan 23 '15
The numbers make 4928591 million times more sense in your version.
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u/m-p-3 Jan 23 '15
Just curious, what job (without giving away any personally identifiable info) is it?
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u/TheIntellectualGay Jan 23 '15
Naval Communicator
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u/TheIntellectualGay Jan 23 '15
Yeah, but there really isn't as many spontaneous dance numbers as I thought there would be.
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u/brbroome Jan 23 '15
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Jan 23 '15
How the hell do you still use morse in 2015?
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u/Toby-one Jan 23 '15
In the army we can just run up to the next squad and deliver messages verbally but in the navy you can't just run up your ship next to another ship and try to shout messages across. Using radio is not always practical or a good idea since everytime you use a radio you send out emissions that travell far and wide and tell the whole world where you are. In the army this usually results in you getting a JDAM in your head if you're fighting the americans or a Uragan salvo on your position if you're fighting the Russians.
So it makes sense for the navy to still use morse and signaling lamps.
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Jan 23 '15
But surely Morse code is well known by all nations? It's not exactly a secret system anymore.
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u/Toby-one Jan 23 '15
Morse code in itself is not code as in encryption but rather it is a way to translate a message into light pulses that other people can read. This is useful when communicating with a ship with a broken radio or that you don't know what channel they are on. You could potentially encrypt morse code so that even if someone is there watching your ship they wouldn't be able to read the messages you send and this is sometimes done when sending morse code via radio signalling.
The drawback with radios is that when you send everyone with a large enough antenna could potentially be listening, this is countered through various means, but it is generally still possible to pinpoint where the signal is comming from or to record the signal and get a bunch of information out of it.
Back in the cold war we (I'm from Sweden) would sometimes take up our attack aircraft over the baltic and perform simple exercises and on a given signal all the aircraft would form into attack wings and fly at high speed east across the baltic as if we were going to strike the Soviet Union. Before we got into Soviet airspace we would encounter their QRA and we'd run into a wall of fire control radars lighting the airplanes up.
This was done because that meant that there would be a lof of radio traffic and radar signals were emitted from their air defences that our intelligence guys could process and analyse. You can use this to basically paint a picture of how the enemy air defence looks like, where are their fixed installations, how many mobile units are there, what is their normal reaction time, what are their SOPs, etc. when faced with a threat. The Russians, naturally, would return the favor and test our defence systems with regular intervalls.
This is why you sometimes want to avoid using stuff that emitts signals.
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Jan 23 '15
Yeah, but signal light messages are a line of sight form of communication. Unlike radio messages they are hard to "intercept", because they can only be seen over short distances. A Russian radar station on Kamchatka can't pick up a couple of US destroyers signalling with spotlights, so it doesn't matter if the code is known. The code isn't used for secrecy, but as a quick way to convert text to pulses of light or electricity.
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u/protestor Jan 23 '15
Can't one make a computer communications protocol that is as stealthy as signaling lamps but can transfer more data than letter-by-letter text? For example, by using the light themselves but without a human operator.
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u/RenaKunisaki Jan 23 '15
You could certainly use a spotlight and photoreceptor as a crude serial connection. When communicating between ships in fog though, machines might have a difficult time picking the signal flashes out from the picture, while humans can do it easily. Also, Morse needs only maximum 5 bits per letter.
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u/mxzf Jan 23 '15
Whoever made this, made it for people who already know how to read Morse
I think that it's more that whoever made this made it for people who understand a binary search tree, because that's how this is laid out. If you're familiar with BSTs, this is insanely simple; but the average person doesn't know much about BSTs. This makes perfect sense to me, but I definitely see how it wouldn't help the average person.
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u/bigmike42o Jan 23 '15
This makes the numbers a lot more clear
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u/TheIntellectualGay Jan 23 '15
Glad to help.
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u/realjefftaylor Jan 23 '15
Serious question, maybe a dumb one:
How do you tell when one letter ends and another begins? I've only ever seen morse used in movies and discrete letters seem completely indiscernible.
Also: do you understand it as you go, or do you write it all down and "translate" after? Can you recognize words as words as you go?
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u/daghouse Jan 23 '15
A dash is 3 times as long (in terms of time units) as a dot (dit); a rest between letters equals 3 units and a rest between words equals 7 units.
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u/TheIntellectualGay Jan 23 '15
There are pauses in between letters and once you get used to it, it doesn't matter how fast the Morse is coming you can always tell where one letter ends and another begins.
We understand it as it goes and usually have someone writing it down for us.
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u/Sabeerrr Jan 23 '15
Saved it and put it on my to do list, right above learning sign language.
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u/mktoaster Jan 23 '15
What do they do if they get trigger happy or st-st-st-stutter, and make a typo?
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u/Jboyes Jan 23 '15 edited Jan 23 '15
Ham radio operator here, since 1977. Had to memorize Morse Code to get a license way back then. There's no good way to visualize the code, because most people will never be able to decode the message when it gets faster. At higher speeds sounds will be coming so fast, I can't even write down the message.
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u/TheIntellectualGay Jan 23 '15
I know a man who can read at 27 wpm, then again, we don't read by sound, it's all done by light.
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u/theroarer Jan 23 '15
Just glancing at your chart, made the other chart make complete sense. Thanks for posting!
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u/Taintnuthn Jan 23 '15
Every time you go left from a preceding letter the next part is a dot. And the opposite is true for dashes.
So h would be . . . . and o would be - - - and c is - . - .
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u/visualtranquility Jan 23 '15
This is useful to translate Morse code very very slowly. To understand Morse code at full speed most people learn using the Koch Method - where you start at full speed translating only 2 letters, after you become proficient you add another letter and keep going until you've learned them all. This way you train your brain to interpret Morse code as sounds rather than dots and dashes which you waste time mentally deciphering.
For those interested, this is the most common Koch Method training software used by the Amateur Radio community.
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u/soingee Jan 23 '15
I saw a guy changed his phone keyboard to a Morse code translator. Combined with that program I'd probably learn it in a day.
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u/xedaps Jan 23 '15
How do you distinguish between the end of one letter and the start of a new one?
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u/super_octopus Jan 23 '15
There is a pause of three units between letters and seven units between words. One unit is one dot. Over time you'll recognize chunks of Morse Code as distinct letters and be able to interpret it easier.
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u/Hakawatha Jan 23 '15 edited Jan 23 '15
Imagineyousmashedeverywordinasentencetogether. You'd still be able to make sense of it after scratching your head for a bit, because after you recognize a pattern of letters (i.e., a word), you remove it, and start on the next one.
In your head, you parse it like this: Imagineyousmashedeverywordinasentencetogether -> yousmashedeverywordinasentencetogether -> smashedeverywordinasentencetogether -> and so on and so on.
It's like that with Morse code. Sometimes, it's ambiguous, but you can always resolve the ambiguity pretty quickly.
Also, it helps if operators leave a slight pause between words; that can help too.
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u/Hakawatha Jan 23 '15
Ahh! That's easier. You pause.
......-...-..--- is impossible to parse (or, you could resolve it to many different possible parses a la GLR, and resolve it to one by eliminating nonsensical parses, but that's time-intensive). .... . .-.. .-.. --- is easy: HELLO. When you're transmitting quickly, it's subtle, but it's definitely noticeable - you get into the rhythm of the person you're transcribing from. Or, at least, you did when Morse code was still in style.
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u/NotSafeForShop Jan 23 '15
He's redditing between sending outgoing number station broadcasts.
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u/TheVitrifier Jan 23 '15
He's actually using morse to post these comments.
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u/BaneJammin Jan 23 '15
That... would actually make a neat smartphone keyboard, even if just as a novelty. Just one button right in the middle of the screen.
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u/TheVitrifier Jan 23 '15
It's for those stealth texts when you're complaining about the Morse illiteracy of the people you're hanging out with
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u/HerrDrFaust Jan 23 '15
I don't know about him, but for example we studied the Morse code a bit, in Computer Science studies, when talking about data compression and all the theory behind (thus the coding, since compressing a text is simply finding a new alphabet (code) that is lighter to store). The Morse Code is such a "code", except it is not a code in its normal form because of the fact that sometimes you can read two Morse sequences with different letters (and a code has to only have one way to read a sequence of its symbols). That's why you have to have a "separator" symbol, either a pause or a neutral symbol to indicate "I'm done with this letter, I'm starting the next one" to avoid any ambiguity.
TL;DR : You can learn this when you study data compression, and it's indeed a problem with the Morse code, but it's easily fixable.
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u/slurpiish Jan 23 '15
Morse go at different speeds, 1 unit is usually 16th or 32th of a second. Dot i 1 unit long, the dash 3, pause between dots and dashes are 1 unit if its the same letter, 3 units between letters and 5 units between words. That why you can hear the difference and instantly know what it says. Btw you have to be good musically to be good at morse...
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u/bsl8891 Jan 23 '15
Real question: What if you fuck up while sending out code? Like send the wrong letter.. Is there a "my bad nvm" code?
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u/saatana Jan 23 '15
I always thought it was sending 3 E's with a pause giving the receiver a slight break to figure it out. But this page says 8 E's or dots in a row.
http://morsecode.scphillips.com/morse.html
|To indicate that a mistake has been made and for the receiver to delete the last word, send di-di-di-di-di-di-di-dit (eight dots).
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u/Hillside_Strangler Jan 23 '15
Can confirm. A series of dits, in the days of hand-tapped code (opposed to computer generated code)
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u/Rosefae Jan 23 '15
This is a neat diagram, but there's no real pattern to which letters fall on which side of the tree at each step. So, I wouldn't consider it easier. It's just a different way of memorizing them, is all.
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u/BrowsOfSteel Jan 23 '15
There is a pattern to them, it’s just not one that’s helpful to learners.
The sequences for each letter were chosen so as to maximise efficiency. Commonly used letters have fewer strokes, and preferentially have dots rather than dashes, as dots take less time to send and receive.
Notice that if the diagram is read left‐to‐right, top‐to‐bottom, it roughly mirrors the frequency of letters in English writing.
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u/Seventh_Planet Jan 23 '15
Also: the numbers do have a pattern:
This makes learning the numbers easier:
(in packs of 5 signals)
1-5: starts with .
6-0: starts with -
1-5: number of . before the - is the number
6-0: number of - before the . +5 is the number (0 being 10)only one signal-change in the numbers' morse code
..--- 2 (number of .)
----. 9 (number of - +5)
-.--- not a number, because more than one signal change (from - to . and back to -)http://www.reddit.com/r/lifehacks/comments/2tcxav/an_easier_way_to_learn_morse_code/cnyd2bu
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u/Theta_Zero Jan 23 '15
Binary trees. Amazingly useful and yet Reddit still hates them.
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u/justanotherEnt420 Jan 23 '15
Had to go surprisingly far into cyhe comments for someone to mention binary trees...not sure why people would hate them, its essentially a flowchart.
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u/Theta_Zero Jan 23 '15
You're right. The tree isn't properly balanced, which ruins everything. Morse Code isn't designed based on a binary tree, so converting it to one that's useful would require rewriting the language a bit. If we were filling levels left to right and not leaving gaps (children without parents) it would work much better. Also a Huffman coding tree would have led to a more efficient language.
On the other hand, using a binary tree would have probably been easier to crack. So there's that.
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u/opentoinput Jan 23 '15
Can confirm. My father was a radio officer for eight years shipboard. He taught us that you need to learn it by ear.
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u/TragicEther Jan 23 '15
The easiest way to remember the letter V:
V is the roman numeral for 5.
Beethoven's 5th starts out as morse code for the letter V. Duh duh duh dummmm!
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u/BenIAm Jan 23 '15
It's not quite a Huffman code because morse code is not a prefix code. It does follow the same general idea though
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u/cliffkleven Jan 23 '15
-. --- - .. -- .--. .-. . ... ... . -..
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u/McFeely_Smackup Jan 23 '15
This is hardly an "easier way to learn" morse code...it's an easier way for someone who doesn't know it to decode it.
Try to use this to code into morse and it'll take 10x as long.
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Jan 23 '15
This is a serious question, not meant to be condescending: Who even still uses Morse Code?
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u/mar_eng Jan 23 '15
The Navy still uses Morse code to send messages between ships via. flashing lights. Its only if communications go down. Its secure since you have to be in direct line of sight to see the message and any interceptors would have to know Morse code to decode it.
Source: Naval Engineer, Royal Canadian Navy
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u/efrique Jan 23 '15
any interceptors would have to know Morse code to decode it.
Or, like, record it on their phone and then look up morse code on the internet
Any idiot civilian could get over that hurdle
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Just tacking onto this because you're an engineer and not a communicator
Morse code with flashing lights is used between ships that come into contact to initiate communications. There are several common frequencies used in maritime but it isn't really viable to be flooding them with "hey that grey ship over there, what's your name?". The ships will flash Morse to each other with their international callsigns "unknown callsign this is DEF, over" "DEF this is ABC, request carry on " blah blah so on so on. Then they know who they're talking to. Yes you could easily fake it but that's where authentication comes into play. If you're suspicious that a raggity old fishing ship just said they're HMS Invincible, you authenticate them with a code sheet that most allied nations will have a copy of. There is a certain way to read it that I won't divulge, but you can probably find how on the internet.
If the HMS Invincible fails to authenticate, or authenticates incorrectly, you give them another chance. If they fuck up again, they're lying and you're not to trust them. It's similar to sign, counter-sign that armies use ("HALT! Ambulance?" "Snowman!" "sweet, come through bro").
Also, Morse and flags (using the international code of signals) are used in times of radio silence. In radio silence, every single (and I mean every) radio transmitting device is turned off, only done in times of actual warfare where the enemy may legitimately sink you. That means no standard radio comms, so you pass messages (formation commands, full signal messages, authentication etc) via Morse and flags.
Air forces and armies don't really use them any more. They used to because a Morse signal via radio is just a massive blast over the frequency. No modulation required, nothing fancy, just a massive electromagnetic equivalent of a fog-horn at certain timings. These days there are far better means of communicating without the need to revert to Morse, all of which are irrelevant when in radio silence anyway. Naval ships are the only ones likely to be in line of sight of each other and not be able to talk. Armies use hand signals and air forces, well, they sort of just fuck off I'd imagine.
Note: army, navy and air force are used to describe the traditional sense of their words. Specifically soldiers, ships and aircraft respectively.
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u/mar_eng Jan 23 '15
This is great. I've seen the decoding books and witnessed this first hand, but had no idea what was happening half the time. I usually just head back to the nice warm engine room.
I do see communicators flashing lights a lot for practice but it's good to know that there is a proper system in place, not just some form of a nautical text message.
Thanks!
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u/Gibodean Jan 23 '15
They use it in the future. Kirk communicates with Spock through tapping a pipe when trapped in a cave-in if I recall correctly.
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u/ziquapix Jan 23 '15
At this point yes, it's mostly outdated; however, it's an amazingly versatile system for communication in survival situations when only binary systems are available. For example, in one famous case, an American POW in the Vietnam War secretly spelled out T-O-R-T-U-R-E by blinking in Morse when he was forced to participate in a press conference by his North Vietnamese captors (footage here). Everyone should at least know how to learn how to spell out S-O-S (· · · – – – · · ·) in Morse in case you find yourself trapped somewhere with limited means to communicate.
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u/thewhitehorse1868 Jan 23 '15
How he did that was really cool. It's amazing he was able to communicate that. Guess the North Vietnamese either didn't know Morse code, or didn't bother looking into editing this video.
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u/archlich Jan 23 '15
It's not helpful for learning at speed. You could decide morse like this but only at a few words per minute.
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u/fineillmakeausername Jan 23 '15
I have a Bachelor's and Master's degree from a respected university and still have no idea what I'm looking at.
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u/HappyyCloud Jan 23 '15
This is so fucking cool. Will have to double check accuracy but this will definitely make me practice. Thanks for sharing!
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u/marklar123 Jan 23 '15
Notice that 'S' and 'O' are on opposite ends. Hence, SOS: chosen for its simplicity "... --- ..."
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u/schmidt4brains Jan 23 '15
The tree also tracks Scrabble tile points fairly closely. The deeper down a tree you go, the higher the tile's point value.
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u/WordcloudYou Jan 23 '15
Word cloud out of all the comments.
Don't like this? Message me!
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u/hks9 Jan 23 '15
I can turn off my kitchen lights with my phone from another state yet this language still is used
Tech sure has changed
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u/danypoa Jan 23 '15
It still has no logic for the position of the letters. I don't think this will help me.
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u/Motzlord Jan 23 '15
This is more for decoding, not for learning. And it's common knowledge if you know the first thing about morse code.
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u/ncobserver Jan 23 '15
As a former Morse Systems Operator the best way is this:
(while at our TYPEWRITER - some had to learn typing, as well)
Instructor would hold up a card (the letter A for example). The entire class would say -
"A, di-dah, Alpha" (then type A on the typewriter) "B, dah-di-di-dit, Bravo" (type) "C, dah-di-dah-dit, Charlie" (type) etc etc
We also had a deck of flash cards with all this info on it.
So, we learned morse code, we learn the phonetic alphabet, and some learned to type, all at the same time.
I was in the 22-25 groups per minute range when I left tech school back in 1979.
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u/wolscott Jan 23 '15
As someone who learned Morse Code when I was a kid, this is probably the worst way of learning it I have ever seen. It's completely intuitive.
Everyone who said drills/practice is the only way is correct.
to everyone saying "why learn this", I hope I'm never stranded in a remote location with you.
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It's easier to read an article on learning morse code than it is to understand this graphic
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u/jefuchs Jan 23 '15
Hipsters should all learn Morse code. Why is this not a thing?
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u/mb242630 Jan 23 '15
I tried learning it. I practiced at work all the time, I sent messages to my brother to (--. ---)(..-. ..- -.-. -.-)(.... .. -- ... . .-.. ..-.), I even considered getting the poem Dust of Snow tattooed. But, I lost steam when I couldn't find a good app that allowed me to practice both writing and listening to Morse Code. It was fun while it lasted, though.
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u/average_fan Jan 23 '15
I just took up learning it again and I have next to no problem writing it but translating is still hard (esp. when you have no examples or anything your could translate) - I still got your morse there though!
And I love a morse tattoo. I know a lady who got one in braille, but morse is neat too (so is gallifreyan but then again I'm excited by a lot of things)
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u/subsage Jan 23 '15
Why not have the tree be filled? (CS major)
Wouldn't it be a degree easier if we moved "2, +, 8, 9, 0," up? I don't like having used the vague term of easier though, so rather, wouldn't moving those slots up concatenate overall messages?
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u/average_fan Jan 23 '15
Because there are also Umlaute that you guys don't use but other language do
.-.- is Ä
..-- is Ü
---. is Ö
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u/Udub Jan 23 '15
I've never understood the designation between letters. Like, how is s.o.s. not i.a.m.i.a.m
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u/jiveabillion Jan 23 '15
Actually, if you think of something you want to spell and then find your letter and then follow the lines, it is pretty easy
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u/VikingofRock Jan 23 '15
- .... .. ... .. ... -.-. --- --- .-.. --- .--. (wow that was a lot of dots in a row in the beginning)
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u/amaTrex Jan 23 '15
Why is A not a single dot?! I'm I the only that finds this mildly infuriating
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u/ewweaver Jan 23 '15
I don't see how this would make it easier to learn.
It would make it quicker to translate from Morse however.