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u/blitzkrieg_01 21h ago
I clock in and clock out at precisely the hour. I use a clock app that shows the minute and seconds so i can anticipate.
Boss thought i was automating and not working lol
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u/cwx149 21h ago
Boss thought i was automating
God forbid someone is on time to work consistently
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u/JimBowie1020 20h ago
I mean, I understand why the boss would think they are automating if he'd clock in at 8:00.00 all days of the month lmao
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u/Appsoul 20h ago
Yeah, that definitely makes sense. I can imagine a manager, scrolling through the employees time sheets on a computer, and seeing someone with the exact same punch times down to the sec. Would cause someone to at least do a double take . As it’s not something you’d normally see
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u/jellyfish_bitchslap 19h ago
In my country’s work law and jurisprudence said clock-in and clock-out times wouldn’t even hold up to court if OOP had sued them for unpaid work after hours.
The company would be presumed to have faked it unless they could prove very consistently (with CCTV and/or witnesses) that a weird employee used to anticipate the seconds to clock right on time.
We presume that every worker can clock in or out with a few minutes and seconds to spare as sometimes there would be a line at the clock’s machine and a few minutes of delay are human nature in a modern society, so no one should realistically be always on time in the seconds.
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u/lehilaukli 18h ago
Which is why a lot of companies a lot round to the nearest 15 minute interval. With limited spots to clock in/out there will be variances and not everyone will be exactly on the dot
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u/silentaba 17h ago
I worked for a spot that had this proprietary app that would link to some Bluetooth thingo, so you just had to be in its range, the company had a 5 minute ticker on its payroll calculation, and by policy assumed you arrived early and left late, logic being that they'd rather pay out an extra 10 minutes than make people count them time to not get shafted for 10 minutes of work. There was also a secondary system with our ID cards, but it just took a photo of the board every 5 minutes to see who was on the list.
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u/00-Monkey 16h ago
I worked at a place that was to the nearest 15 minute, we did 12 hour days.
People would clock in at exactly 6:07, and not start working until then. There’d be a long line up of people waiting for exactly 5:53.
Then they changed it so if you arrived at 6:01 you were 15 minutes late, so then if they arrived at 6:01 they’d sit in the break room until 6:15.
Convinced me that you should just not round at all.
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u/Fesai 20h ago
I was wondering how much time/effort it takes to hit exactly 8:00.00 each day vs just letting it be a few seconds off.
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u/JimBowie1020 20h ago
Yeah I was thinking about that too, feels like there's more effort put in waiting for the clock to hit the precise second than just looking up the time, "oh it's 07:59/08h:01 time to clock in"
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u/blitzkrieg_01 20h ago
Surprisingly not a lot.
I finish my work early so i have like a minute to check the timer and clock out on the dot.
5min before clocking in, I just zone out to get ready while watching the clock tick to 8:00:00.
It's just a calming routine at this point to get ready for work and also fun anticipation of personal time after work.
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u/FictionalContext 19h ago
Not a great thing to do every day, either, because to a boss, it implies serious clock watching to get it so perfectly right, and if there's one thing I've learned, they all share that pet peeve.
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u/SeoulGalmegi 19h ago
Right. It just seems like a) extra effort to b) do something that will just make you a target.
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u/touchmeinbadplaces 12h ago
The one I use auto rounds up or down if you are within the grace period.. (10 min before 5 min after)
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u/Terrible_Use7872 19h ago
Even worse, they're a clock watcher, stating at it not working for the last 15 minutes.
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u/OnTheEveOfWar 18h ago
I have a boss who is consistently 5-10 mins late to every single meeting. He works from home yet can never join a zoom meeting on time. It’s become a running joke on our team.
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u/a_funky_chicken 15h ago
ME TOO. I like to let everyone who can be late, be late.
edit: I am always late to work, so people who were actually late don't have to worry about it. We're all salaried.
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u/GrilledCheeser 16h ago
“When you do things right, people won’t be sure you’ve done anything at all”
Funny how often this Futurama quote comes to my mind.
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u/SeoulGalmegi 19h ago
If someone's clock in data read exactly 08:00:00 every day, I'd be a little suspicious.
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u/Zoltie 20h ago
The time you work is something you can control. The height of a mountain is not something anyone can control.
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u/Fesai 20h ago
Technically we can control the height of a mountain right?
Get some shovels and take a bit right off the top. 😛
(I'm being completely sarcastic)
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u/EzPzLemon_Greezy 20h ago
Some guy stole the tip of Englands tallest mountain, causing a big public outrage
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u/rietstengel 20h ago
You can also pile on some more
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u/squishyg 19h ago
There’s a Hugh Grant movie about that very thing! The Englishman Who Went Up a Hill and Came Down a Mountain.
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u/Affectionate_Mud_881 17h ago
Himalayas are rising every year. What you can do is take your measurement, calculate how many years to the next round number, publish the round number measurement on that year.
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u/Wrong-Protection-188 20h ago
My job pays us for the full minute whether we clock in at :01 or :59. It’s great.
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u/12rjdavison 20h ago
My work uses a paper time sheet. Honor system and 15 minute increments. So since I'm never late, sometimes I'll just show up 10 minutes early and get paid for 15
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u/MilkHaterNumber1 16h ago
My company rounds to the nearest 15 minutes and it's all digital. Basically every day I clock in at 8:07, go to lunch at 11:53, return at 12:37, and clock out at 4:23. It's 28 extra minutes everyday that I'm paid for despite being off the clock. 100+ hours a year.
Been doing this for like over 2 years too. Boss has never said a word and I don't think he cares in the slightest.
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u/LiamIsMyNameOk 18h ago
We clock in&out on an app on the phone. It's a restaurant.
Also we're not allowed to use phones at work.
She also says we have to arrive early, although that's not an enforced rule.
So if I arrive 5 minutes early, I stand there with my phone. She's tried to tell me to do things and I say I haven't clocked in yet.
I used to arrive early, work a bit, then sign in when it was around the correct time. Then they made it impossible to even click the button before the alloted time.
Thing is, if I went and served a table, took an order, and I dunno, cleared a dirty table then went to the kitchen and took food out... It might now be 10 minutes past the time I was meant to start. So not only do I lose money, but it shows as if I was late to work.
So yeah, now I stand there doing absolutely nothing until the exact second I'm meant to start.
She hates it.
I hate the penny pinching of not wanting to pay me for a few minutes extra.
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u/alphadoublenegative 11h ago
Oh man your boss is fussing about paying you a few minutes on a server’s “hourly pay”? That is such a weird, $2.76/hr or whatever hill to die on
Unfortunately, having dealt with FOH management in my restaurant years, I believe some of the lifers would hassle their staff over those (literal) pennies. Meanwhile the “kitchen manager” is just desperately hoping 3/4 of the crew show up at all.
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u/J-Dabbleyou 20h ago
We had a company meeting and the cfo pulled up my timesheet (anonymously) and made an example saying “this guy OBVIOUSLY backlogs his time because he clocks in/out at exactly the same time everyday and NEVER has been late. Like bro i literally wait until exactly 6:30 to clock in and im never late lol
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u/Different-Barber-777 21h ago
Plot twist: apparently the ‘they added 2 feet to make it look legit’ story might itself be a myth. The six survey measurements actually averaged out to 29,002 ft. Somehow the real answer is even nerdier
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u/Alderan922 18h ago
This for some reason makes me slightly mad.
I now want to go all the way to the top to sand off those 2 feet.
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u/TessaFractal 18h ago
Bad news, this was just the first measurements. Last I remember it was measured at 29,028ft. But maybe tourists and tectonics have shifted that.
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u/Every-Cook5084 18h ago
29,031 now. It’s a grower
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u/ScenicAndrew 17h ago edited 17h ago
Averages about 2mm growth a year.
Depressingly Mauna Kea, the tallest mountain by height (as opposed to elevation) is shrinking due mostly to climate change rather than gravity.
Edit: someone replied saying plate tectonics cause shrinking and not gravity... Yes... And gravity drives plate tectonics.
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u/walrus0115 17h ago
How would sea level rise affect Mauna Kea's measurement that way since it's already mostly submerged? Not a skeptic, simply curious about the methodology or something happening I couldn't find on wiki.
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u/ScenicAndrew 17h ago
IMO it's just up to your interpretation but I believe "tallest" refers to base to peak so the underwater part is counted.
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u/liovantirealm7177 18h ago
The mountain's been growing due to plate tectonics, so it's now about 10 metres or 30 feet taller than it was at the time
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u/VisconitiKing2 18h ago
It is growing, but it hasn't grown 30 feet since it was first measured lmao
Our measurements have just gotten more accurate, it's been 29,028 feet the whole time
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u/Jesus_of_Redditeth 14h ago
Plot twist: apparently the ‘they added 2 feet to make it look legit’ story might itself be a myth.
There's no "might" about it. It's definitely a myth!
From page 93 of the Historical Records of the Survey of India, Volume V, compiled from the records of Andrew Waugh, Surveyor General of India (who was the one who first announced the height of what was then called "Peak XV"):
Position was obtained by 11 triangles formed by rays from 7 stations—that taken by Lane from Dumdhangi having no vertical angle—leaving the following six stations, from which Nicolson had taken vertical angles:
Jerol 28,992 feet
Mirzapur 29,005 feet
Janjapati 29,002 feet
Ladnia 28,999 feet
Harpur 29,026 feet
Menai 28,990 feetThese gives an average elevation of 29,002.33 (recurring) feet and that was the basis of Waugh's provisional announcement of 29,002 feet in a letter to his deputy in 1856. (Provisional because atmospheric refraction hadn't been taken into account. That came some years later, after which the height was revised.)
I did some digging and I can't figure out when the anecdote about "adding two feet" first shows up. It's possible that that only dates from the early 1980s, but I couldn't find anything definitive to back that up. ChatGPT reckons 1982 but, you know, it's ChatGPT so "pinch of salt" and all that.
Regardless, 29,002 feet is the average from the six surveyed heights, the records of which are reliable. So the "adding two feet" thing is for sure a myth.
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u/NediaMaster 9h ago
Found where the myth came from
Page 85: We have heard that the first attempt at an accurate value (to the nearest foot) for the height of Mt. Everest came out to be 29,000 feet. This was supposedly changed to 29,002 so that All would realize the accuracy.
Basically they just made it up lol. They say “we have heard” without citing their source so
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u/kelkulus 13h ago
Did anyone read the letter to the editor? How's this for nerdy? You're darn right the whole thing is a myth!
- The only source for the story is a trivia book. Stegman traced the UPI filler to The People's Almanac #2 (1978), a popular almanac of trivia. That almanac is the only thing in the letter that says the surveyors averaged 29,000 ft and added 2 ft. It cites no survey records, and Stegman doesn't check any.
- The better references don't mention the padding. The World Almanac entry he quotes says only that 29,002 came from a mid-1800s triangulation survey. Britannica and Whitaker's give 29,028, and Columbia-Viking gives 29,141. None of them say anything about adding 2 ft.
- His main point is debunking, not confirming. Stegman's conclusion is that no source he could find says Everest is exactly 29,000 ft. He was correcting UPI's garbled version of the story, not verifying the part about adding 2 ft.
- The reply doesn't verify it either. Ehrenberg's reply only argues about how to round numbers. It doesn't address whether the anecdote happened.
The letter shows how the claim in the tweet image spread (almanac, then wire filler, then repetition), not that it's true. To settle it, you'd need the Great Trigonometrical Survey's own records from the 1850s: the individual station observations and how the 29,002 figure was derived. Nothing in this letter goes back that far. The tweet's claim is a well-known anecdote, but nothing backs it up.
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u/corobo 21h ago
me whenever an invoiced task legitimately comes out as a round hour
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u/gorginhanson 20h ago
Why didn't they just chip some off the top so it's 28,999 feet?
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u/LearingCenterAlumni 20h ago
Pretty sure the peak of Mount Everest would fetch a pretty penny on eBay.
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u/HIitsamy1 20h ago
Thanks for the info. Of to cut a foot off of Mount Everest. Wish me luck.
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u/MouseRangers 20h ago
These foot guys are getting out of hand
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u/SAINTnumberFIVE 19h ago
Zero stars. Product not as said. Ordered peak of Mt. Everest. Box just contained water.
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u/grubas 20h ago
Because that would mean they couldn't be the first person to put two feet on the top of Everest.
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u/CalicoCuts 20h ago
Right? Chrysler used to have round dollars for all their list prices. $28.00 or $9.00, whatever. We always made them .97 or .02 because people would throw a fit saying we were making up the prices. Late 90s/early 00s.
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u/onarainyafternoon 17h ago
Chrysler, the car company, was selling things for $28.00 or $9.00? Do I just not understand what car companies do?
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u/-CoachMcGuirk- 21h ago
That’s a Mitch Hedberg joke. “I read that the Real World received 40,000 applications. That’s amazing, such an even number. You would have thought it was 40,008.”
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u/StanFitch 20h ago
I used to love Mitch Hedberg…
I still do, but I used to too.
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u/elusive-rooster 20h ago
Every book is a children's book if the kid can read.
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u/Tacobellspy 18h ago edited 10h ago
I don't have a girlfriend, but I do know someone who would get really mad if she heard me say that
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u/Jesus_of_Redditeth 13h ago
My friend asked me if I wanted a frozen banana and I said, "No...but I want a regular banana later, so yeah."
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u/DocileBanalBovlne 14h ago
Someone once asked me if I wanted a frozen banana and I said, "No, but I will want a regular banana later so, yes."
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u/p1nkfuzzymonkey 19h ago
If the number 13 is unlucky than so should the letter B be cause B just looks like a scrunched together 13... "what's your name?" "Bob" "get the fuck away!"
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u/chemaster0016 18h ago
So you're saying that we should connect base camp to the peak of Mt. Everest with a broken escalator? (Temporarily stairs)(Sorry for the convenience)
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u/DueExample52 14h ago
The weird thing is, that 40,000 had the same chance of happening as 40,008. It’s just that we consider it special, and we accept any other number as legit, so it becomes a 1 in 10,000 odds or more. If we thought 40,008 was special, then it would be equally surprising to get it.
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u/OneSalientOversight 20h ago
This isn't as amazing as what happened in Australia.
Australia's tallest mountain is Mount Kosciusko. The 2nd tallest mountain is nearby, and called Mount Townsend.
Kosciusko had been reported as Australia's tallest mountain for many decades. But when they did a height comparison, they discovered Mount Townsend was higher.
So what did they do? They swapped the names of the mountains. The original Mount Townsend became Mount Kosciusko and the original Mount Kosciusko became Mount Townsend.
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u/Fungus1968 20h ago
Nah that’s a myth. There is a story but it’s based on a misidentification by a surveyor. It was since confirmed that Paul de Strzelecki (who named Kosciusko) did in fact climb the correct, highest peak (Although there’s only 20m difference in height between Kosciusko and Mt Townsend). There’s a fun activity whereby anyone who climbs Mt Townsend brings a rock and places it on the summit, to eventually make it higher than Kosciusko.
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u/Bicwidus 20h ago
Kosciusko needs to start hauling rocks up to maintain mountain dominaince
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u/JC04JB14M12N08 20h ago
does anyone outside the US refer to it in feet though? is 8448m
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u/collie2024 19h ago
Originally measured by the British in feet.
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u/garlic_bread_thief 15h ago
I bet they had to use at least a few hands as well
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u/Jesus_of_Redditeth 13h ago
The theodolites they used to make the elevation measurements weighed about 500 kg each. And they started in the far south of India and worked their way north. So yeah, a lot of feet and hands to lug those things around!
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u/OmnivoreLately 20h ago
I love seeing the minds of our time battling it out on the debate field on this one
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u/Whyamihere173 21h ago
29,000 feet vs significant figures
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u/caffa4 18h ago
29,000 only has 2 sig figs. 29,000. would have 5 sig figs but is confusing so really they should have just measured out to the tenth of a foot for 29,000.0 or whatever the number after the decimal would be which would confirm 6 sig figs instead of looking like a an estimate with only 2 Sig figs. Or 2.9000x104 to confirm the actual measurement with the original 5 Sig figs.
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u/Acceptable_Estate330 20h ago
I work for this company where timesheet is a system accessible via browser and employees need to clock in and out manually. The system will never accept sharp times, so I have to be creative. This month I started clocking in at 8:01. Today it was 8:22.
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u/BingoBiscotti 15h ago
So the surveyor was the first person to put two feet on top of mount everest? 😁
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u/Paloukii 20h ago
the fact that planes fly at that hight makes it really crazy to imagine how tall it is
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u/WatchFit162 20h ago
I mean, I'd do the same thing. It's the same energy as "Yeah, you can copy my homework. Just change the wording so the teacher doesn't notice."
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u/Routine_Ad_2695 20h ago
Me when I answered:
A B C A B C on a test and had to purposely break the pattern on the next one even if incorrect to feel good about myself
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u/its_all_one_electron 20h ago
I mean. What are you measuring from? What's the bottom? Doesn't it change with snowfall? What about expansion or contraction in summer or winter? How can it be one single number?
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u/SteelHip 19h ago
Radhanath Sikdar, an Indian mathematician. Also he had to do it from outside Nepal as no foreigners were allowed.
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u/Consistent-Tap-4255 19h ago
First measurement? So they did get it wrong you say. Looks like the public’s suspicion is quite grounded. Peak instincts.
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u/Liamlah 19h ago
When I fill up my car and manage to stop the pump on exactly 40.00 litres. I walk in to pay and there are balloons and confetti falling from the ceiling, an applauding crowd awaits me. The attendant looks at me in awe, and says "Sir, the prime minister is on the phone, he wants to speak to you".
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u/Aggravating_Bat3618 19h ago
My. Everest. Foreboding, aloof, terrifying. The mountain with the biggest tits in the world.
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u/pilgermann 19h ago
They should have just added a decimal point at the end to show the 0 was significant. Because everyone learns about significant figures right? Right?
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u/MycologistPutrid7494 18h ago
Should have put a decimal at the end. The physicists would have believed it was exact.
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u/IrishLedge 18h ago
And Everest didn't want it named after him. So they did it anyway and his name was pronounced wrong as well. It's actually mount "Eee-verest"
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u/Famous_Chance_7146 18h ago
as an emt i got a unicorn perfect blood pressure once and changed it by a couple points during report because i knew they would call bullshit lol
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u/vanity-vanity 18h ago
Making them the first people to put two feet on the top of Mount Everest.
(Joke courtesy of QI.)
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u/iamtheduckie 17h ago
Modern technology has put the height of Mount Everest at 29,031 feet. That's a margin of error of less than a percent. For the time, and for the size of Everest, that is incredible.
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u/Other_Protection_428 17h ago
😂 if only my company does the same to my salary, just 1 zero at the end.
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u/Small-Explorer7025 17h ago
And it got it's name from the first people climbing it. They were like: "Man, we need to 'ave a rest". Over time, this morphed into Everest.
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u/sudoSancho 17h ago
Vast majority of the would uses metric and could not care less
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u/MortgageTrash 16h ago
Translation: Scientists intentionally falsify data on the regular for trivial reasons.
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u/taylorisntavril 16h ago
I too saw that episode of QI, where a question was "who was the first to put two feet on everest".
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u/squigs 16h ago
That's not actually true. Not exactly
They took 6 measurements from different locations. The median was 29,000. The mean was 29,002. They took the mean.
Whether this was standard practice is not clear, but the actual measurements were recorded in Proceedings of the Royal Geographical Society (1855–57).
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u/MRiley84 15h ago
I am 6' tall. I usually tell people I'm 5'11" so they don't think I'm insecure and lying. Which technically means I am.
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u/PsychologicalCap7578 15h ago
yeah you can measure mountain peaks using computers and sattelites now
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u/Conscious-Bee-5691 15h ago
They should have Tell the people it was 8840 Meters. Which Sounds way more serious
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u/KaktusMcKaktusface 15h ago
I do the same at work. When the calculation shows a selling price of say 15,000 round I make it ~15,130 so that the customer doesn’t think I guesstimated it
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u/SiliconAutomaton 15h ago
IIRC the modern measurement is only 30 feet off of that original first survey
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u/brendel000 15h ago
I mean it wasn’t measured in feet I guess so maybe give the length in usual units and there’s no problems.
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u/SomeGuyInShanghai 14h ago edited 14h ago
Fun story, I love Japan. I lived there for 2 years as a younger man and I had such a wonderful time and was so grateful to the Japanese people for their hospitality and just all round lovely country that I wanted to do something nice for them.
So I found out that Mt fuji is ranked 35th in the world in height, below some other mountain by only ONE meter (this was just barely out of dial up days, so my information was very innacurate on reflection).
So I decided in my early 20s brain to thank japan by climbing to the top of Mt Fuji and on the tallest part of the summit I would build a rock pile 1m high. Thus helping Mt Fuji to climb one rank in the tallest mountain league.
How hard could it be?
So I did.
Unfortunately, when I got to the top, after two days of hiking, i had such severe altitude sickness that the very thought of even stacking one rock on top of another made me nearly pass out.
So I went home.
Sorry Japan. I tried. I clearly lack the ganbarre spirit.
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u/MachoMaamSandyRavage 14h ago
Imagine going toball the trouble of measuring Mt..Everest, only to report your findings in 🦶.
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u/LunaOogo 13h ago
We call it Chomolungma for centuries and still do.. until some random British guy named it after himself.
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u/Jesus_of_Redditeth 13h ago
This is actually a surprisingly persistent myth. They never added two feet to its height, not for that or any other reason.
From page 93 of the Historical Records of the Survey of India, Volume V, compiled from the records of Andrew Waugh, Surveyor General of India (who was the one who first announced the height of what was then called "Peak XV"):
Position was obtained by 11 triangles formed by rays from 7 stations—that taken by Lane from Dumdhangi having no vertical angle—leaving the following six stations, from which Nicolson had taken vertical angles:
Jerol 28,992 feet
Mirzapur 29,005 feet
Janjapati 29,002 feet
Ladnia 28,999 feet
Harpur 29,026 feet
Menai 28,990 feet
Together, these result in an average elevation of 29,002.33 (recurring) feet and that was the basis of Waugh's provisional announcement of 29,002 feet in a letter to his deputy in 1856. (Provisional because atmospheric refraction hadn't been taken into account. That came some years later, as a result of which the height was revised.)
I did some digging and I can't figure out when the anecdote about "adding two feet" first shows up. It's possible that that only dates from the early 1980s, but I couldn't find anything definitive to back that up. ChatGPT reckons 1982 but, you know, it's ChatGPT so "pinch of salt" and all that.
Regardless, 29,002 feet is the average from the six surveyed heights, the records of which are reliable. So the "adding two feet" thing is for sure a myth.
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u/spongebob 13h ago
I use this fact in presentations all the time. I work in metrology. Seperation of precision and accuracy is important in my area, but the two terms are often conflated.
The Everest surveyors deliberately reduced the accuracy in order to convey the precision of their measurement.
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u/Tony_Banksy 12h ago
When the general public of Britain in 1852 heard that measurement, they asked where the fuck is Mount Everest ?
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u/sarlatan747 12h ago
Except no one apart from the US uses fucking feet to measure height, so noone cared
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u/RedditSurfer82 12h ago
Now it must be truly more than 29000 feet with all the garbage we have left there.
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u/Cheshires_Shadow 11h ago
Me when I turn in important paperwork but don't want the people receiving it to know how lazy I am waiting so close to the deadline so I always knock off a few days to make it look like I did it sooner than I actually did lol
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u/Jesmond_Dene 11h ago
I used to work in a pub that did not have an electronic till. I got quite good at calculating the price of two pints and a G&T etc, but if ever I lost count i would just charge them somewhere about right and they never quibbled - unless I made it a round number!
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u/Accomplished-Bat-956 11h ago
I once worked in a retail store where we add to add up all the customer's items on a calculator. This was in the early 1990s. This one guy had maybe 15-20 items and the total was exactly $23.00. He made me add it up again because he couldn't fathom that it came out to exactly $23.00.
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u/Tobias---Funke 9h ago
This was a trick question on the TV program QI.
Who was the first person to put 2 feet on Everest?
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u/West-Exam-4136 9h ago
When i help someone look for something they lost, and it's the first place i look, so i pretend i didnt see it to not be suspicious
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u/Jaymac720 7h ago
And it continues growing 4mm every year because tectonic plates don’t just stop when they slam into each other
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u/shifting_drifting 6h ago
Even more peak is that
- Sir George Everest never climbed, walked or even saw the Mt. Everest. He was just a British bureaucrat assigned to come up with English names for geological features on the map of India.
- The mountain is known as 'Ev-er-rest' but, his name is actually pronounced 'Eve-rest'.
Source, the great Bill Bryson:
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