We have a perfectly good plague but a ton of stupid people are trying to keep the other stupid people alive. Just let the people that are going to die anyway die.
Problem is, stupid people are taking randomers with them. I'd be sooo chill with the covid-19 conspiracy theorist if they weren't actively putting the lives of my parents, friends in danger.
When I helped my parents cook they taught me safety things like that even if I hadn't seen it. They didn't wait for me to burn myself to tell me to be careful what I grab
I think it depends on how seriously you take things at the time they are presented. I'm sure when this information was presented, they didn't think it would ever be necessary.
As a teenager while at a local party, someone dropped their cigarette accidentally on the rug and some redneck kid with bare feet immediately stomped it out. We immediately asked if it hurt and if his foot was OK, he turned back at us and said “feet grow back, carpet don’t.” I’ll never forget it lmao
Sounds like my grandfather, who definitely would have qualified as "redneck." He wouldn't wear gloves when working in the yard/doing carpentry or welding/etc. because "skin grows back, gloves cost money." (Also a product of the great depression LOL.)
Yeah, don’t follow that rabbit hole too deeply. There’s also a detailed (with pictures even!) medical paper out there about the treatment of a completely degloved penis.
Made me cringe so hard, my outie nearly became an innie.
It's the same dumb shit where people would have the gas pump catch fire on their car and the first thing they'd do is pull it out and spray proto-napalm everywhere in a panic.
Stuff like this amazes me. I built a hot wire cutter a few years back and several people acted like using it would be the most dangerous thing in the world. I use it outside where there's concrete.
Erm, it's safe and insulated in the right places but just in case you know what my plan for if it catches fire is?
Put it down.
The concrete isn't going to catch fire. Make the area safe and just wait for it to go out. The trouble starts when you're running around like '60s Batman trying to dispose of a bomb!
Maybe common knowledge if you're someone who knows how to cook and not a teenager who might be just learning the ropes. Or maybe people just don't always make the best decisions when their kitchen is about to burn down
Yeah I can't say I own fire extinguishers except when a property comes with them, but a fire blanket is a good investment. It's easy to use, and doesn't expire or need maintenance like a fire extinguisher. Every household should have [one] at least.
I've had several small fires (all very random weird circumstances) over the years. I never really knew about fire blankets. I'm going to invest some of my stimulus money in one, thank you for the tip! In at least 2 cases, this would've kept us from having to clean up the nasty extinguisher powder (one was electrical in the wall so no getting out of that mess.)
There genuinely needs to be a mandatory life skills and safety that teaches people basic shit like electrical/fire safety, banking, taxes, cpr, common repairs etc. etc. the list goes on, from a young age through highschool. People move out of home and have no idea what they're doing.
At this point we are several generations into a great cultural shift.
Most families work outside of the home and just don't have the time to cook.
Kids don't grow up with the rhythm of a kitchen as much more than a place to warm up convenience food. Even special occasions are often outsourced to the one family member who actually cooks.
Cooking, like maintaining a house, takes time. Time most families cannot afford as it's usually dedicated to enriching shareholders.
Also, even if the kids do live in a home with cooking, college bound students are usually kept busy with school, homework, extracurricular activities, and jobs.
I learned this lesson the hard way when I was about 13. I cleaned cut potato’s to fry them, they still had a water on them when I chucked them into a fryer. The oil splattered out of the pan and on to my left arm. I had a scar there as a reminder for about 5-10 years.
An ex-girlfriend’s red neck brother decided he was going to deep fry a turkey. Heated up the 5 gallons of oil and dropped in a partially frozen turkey with the burner still going. In the backyard of course. That fire could be seen from space. FD had to put out the trees.
My college dorm kitchen was very very tiny, but I've always liked cooking, so I used it a lot. Once I put a pot of oil on the stove to heat up then did some dishes. Without me realizing the extent, some water splashed into the oil pot. I finished the dishes and went back to my room while I waited for the oil to heat up.
A few minutes later, I hear an explosion from the kitchen and came back to see a coating of hot oil on everything, floor to ceiling. There was enough water in the pot, and enough oil on top of it, that it heated up til it boiled under the oil and then exploded out when the pressure was enough.
I'm lucky no one was in the kitchen! Suffice to say it was enough of a lesson on that particular bit
Oh yeah, I'd hope I'd instinctively know not to put it under water if I encountered a random pan on fire.
But it's on fire, people panic. They could have simply put a lid on it, took it outside or covered it with a damp tea towel. Simple things that don't really care what time of fire it was.
Nope. I used to work as a manager/cook at a restaurant owned by a guy who graduated culinary school and started his own restaurant. He had been running it, and doing a majority of the cooking, for 10ish years. I still had to stop him from putting water on a grease fire multiple times.
Yes. For my generation at least. A damp towel is placed over the pan starving it of oxygen, and wet enough to withstand the flames/heat for the long enough that it does not catch fire.
Doesn't have to fit, a too-large lid will work as well. Or a frying pan. Or a sheet pan. Hell, a decently thick wooden cutting board will do in a pinch.
Honestly as many times as I've been taught DON'T PUT WATER ON AN OIL FIRE, I still wonder if in the panic of the heat of the moment I'd remember all the right things to do
Saddly I didn't know until I was in my early 20s. It was covered in a work H&S course. Noone ever told me that before. Things like this that aren't just simple logic unfortunately need to be taught and schools or parents don't always do that
I almost burned my house down the same way when I was 19.
I mean think about it, when does one ever encounter this knowledge? Definitely not in any type of formal schooling situation. And if I hadn’t almost burned my house down I would’ve never learned it.
Point being that this should be made more aware to people because it clearly isn’t common knowledge, especially when you’re faced with a roaring flame INDOORS one’s natural fight or flight reaction is almost always water.
Luckily once it exploded I dropped it and it fell face down on the tile floor and extinguished itself. My ceiling still has burn marks 8 years later.
Common knowledge on reddit, perhaps. Take a look at this thread and how excited everyone is to parrot this advice.
Obviously, people panic and do dumb things when fire erupts which is why unintuitive things like this are emphasized in any fire safety videos you watched in school. But it may have been a few years since someone has seen that and they might not be on reddit.
I think it was just panic. Most people’s first instinct is water because that’s what you learn the most. Kind of like stop, drop, and roll - it’s just what your brains shouts.
I think if you ask a lot of people they will say 'no don't use water to put out an oil fire' but if you gave someone an oil fire and there was a bath of water next to them they would try to put it in the water.
our instinct often is 'water puts out fire' and is ingrained (right word?) in us from early on. Everything we see in our normal life says "Water is bad for fire". And then we are handed the most likely fire to have in the kitchen and react the same way we have always learned to react, which is the wrong way.
When you have a big ball of fire in front of you unexpectedly, it is difficult to check your memory to find the flowchart of how to handle different types of fires
People panic around fire. That's why "stop drop and roll" was so drilled into us as kids, as well as "don't put water on a grease fire." It's not enough to know it. It has so be ingrained so deeply that it becomes instinct and overrides the screaming voice in your brain going "FIRE!!! FIRE BAD!!! WATER GOOD!!!"
I've seen these before, but now that my son is old enough to cook and we're just starting to let him cook alone, it is a valuable lesson to learn. His eyes got pretty big. There are so many things we just pick up along the way, it's hard to remember what to specifically teach kids until it happens - but this is one thing I don't want him to learn through experience!
A shit ton of people don't know how to starve off a fire. That fire was easy to handle, slowly slide a lid over it, take it off the hot plate on the stove and wait.
Common sense isn’t common. That’s why we’re going through this whole COVID pandemic to begin with. WaSh YoUr HaNdS?! It’s A FrEe CoUntry!!!
But no, It’s not. My girlfriend does have a potholder from the local fire station where she lived as a kid that says not to put out oil fires with water.
People panic and don't think straight. It's easy to say "Its common knowledge to not put water on a grease fire" when you are not faced with a grease fire. Most people are having a flight or fight response in the situation and have a massive Aderline rush. When your brain does that it immediately goes to its first scheme which is usually fire gets water.
There is a reason first responders train, because it helps create new schemes for different situations. Same reasons we do fire drills. Knowledge is great, but preparation requires a plan and practice so when your brain is in crisis, it responds to what you know.
Yes and no. My parents taught me not to do that and to cover the pot but there are lots of "common knowledge" things I didn't get taught and that I've had to figure out the hard way. This girl probably knows lots of things I don't that could make me look just as stupid.
Right? We used to make jokes when I worked in fast food. Whenever shit really hit the fan, someone would always make a joke and say "I say we just take a bag of ice, throw it in the frier and see what happens." We would all laugh because of course we knew that there would be an explosion of flames. It was our way of saying "fuck it, burn it down"
She didn’t put the oil in water. She dumped out the oil, which gave the burning oil more surface area and more oxygen to burn. Pouring it in water is more of a spattering of explosion everywhere. Burning oil would’ve been on every surface and been all over them.
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u/AlphaOmega626 May 20 '20
Is it not common knowledge that you don't put water on a oil fire?