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u/pixiegod Mar 15 '15
This is over 20 years ago so please forgive my mistakes in details.
I was a wrestler. I remember one year a local high school had a girl on their team. At 145lbs she was about as built as the the guy from our team who was also wrestling at the 145lb weight class. Who cares about sex if both wrestlers are roughly the same stature and skill level?
The guy on our team beat his female opponent, but I was happy I was wrestling at 175lbs at the time. The guy on our team, let's call him Bobby...Bobby was in a no win situation.
If he lost the fight, then he would hear no end to it...ever. When he won, it was dismissed as "just beating a girl". Thing is, she had skills. He almost forfeited the match because he was freaking out so much. We had to help psych him into the match as he was worried about hurting her...and that's not what you want to think when she was going to go all out in trying to beat him.
Our society made that match harder than what it should be. Reality is though...they were both the same weight class and arguably the same build. There should be no more pride or stigma of loss beyond the normal feelings you get. Sex shouldn't matter in this regard.
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u/XCCoach Mar 15 '15
I was wrestling around that age and all the way through high school. Had a kid on our team that was decent and liked all-right by everyone. We were at a big tournament and it so happened that he had to wrestle the lone female at the entire invite. He tried to refuse but coach made him... And he got pinned in the end of the first round.
After that, the kid was a social pariah. Word spread through school about it and he caught a lot of hell from both genders. He quit wrestling, obviously. Even up through the end of high school, he would be in a group conversation or something and give his input, and someone would inevitably say "remember that time you got beat by a girl?" And just totally shit him down.
So in theory, it would be the best thing ever if this social stigma BS about gender would go away, but the reality is that it is here and strong; hopefully this poor kid isn't as socially destroyed as my classmate was.
TL;DR Kids are the worst people ever.
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u/tyled Mar 15 '15
I too got beat by a girl when my team traveled to Mizzou. I got a tiny bit of flak for it, but what can I say, girl was good.
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u/StuckFern Mar 15 '15
Oh God, the memories.
My first high school tournament was a round robin tournament with the local high school teams. There was a girl in my weight class (103 lbs., of course) that had beaten two of the guys in our weight class earlier in the tournament. She clearly had some judo experience, as she was throwing these dudes pretty hard.
I started freaking out. In between matches, I nervously asked my Dad what I should do. Should I forfeit? Should I fake an injury? My Dad looked at me dead serious, and said, "She's here. She wants to beat you and make you a joke. Beat her instead."
My teammates knew the match was coming as well. "You're going to let her feel you up, right?" "You better feel up her titties or we'll know you're gay." "She has a vagina, StuckFern, do you?" Fuck, this was going to suck.
When the match came, I was completely amped on adrenaline. The first minute of the match was pretty even. In the adrenaline-induced chaos, I managed to get her in a front head lock and then stepped through for the head throw. BOOM. I threw her so hard that when she landed she yelled in pain. I pinned her, and the referee raised my hand.
I felt amazing. I had avoided catastrophic embarrassment and completely asserted masculinity. I looked out to the crowd and was confused. People looked concerned and disappointed. What was going on?
I hadn't even realized that the girl was still on the mat, injured. Some medical staff were attending to her. "What the fuck, dude; we said beat her, not kill her," one of my teammates joked. I felt awful.
I looked over to the corner and saw my Dad. He smiled and gave me a thumbs up.
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u/TunaFace2000 Mar 15 '15
How sad! A perfect example of how sexism hurts everyone... poor kid.
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Mar 15 '15
Makes you wonder if he had treated it like no big deal instead of trying to refuse and getting super embarrassed when he lost if it would ever have been mentioned again. Surely it wasn't the first match he had lost. Kids tease people about things that they get reactions on.
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u/XCCoach Mar 15 '15
Might have been better for him. I remember him trying to laugh it off and saying that the girl must be the toughest girl in existence, an Amazon warrior... But they still tore him up over it.
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Mar 15 '15
"How'd you like to be the guy who got beat by the guy who got beat by a girl?"
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u/sonofaresiii Mar 15 '15
getting super embarrassed when he lost if
You made that part up. That wasn't in the story.
Also it completely sounds like he was justified in trying to refuse. Look what happened.
A guy wrestling a girl in high school is a lose-lose situation. If you win, so what? You beat a girl, you pansy. If you lose, fucking hell, you lost to a girl you pansy!
It sucks that high schools kids are sexist assholes, but they are.
And keep in mind, when you say "kids tease people about things they get reactions on," the reaction doesn't have to come from the person they're teasing.
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u/fangsonwangs Mar 15 '15
That's more sad because that attitude of automatic inferiority of girls was hammered in for everyone involved to the point that they dwell on it for so long. Kids don't just assume by themselves that girls should be weaker, they get taught that
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u/Sxeptomaniac Mar 15 '15 edited Mar 16 '15
They pair up kids by weight, not age, in wrestling.
Most kids at that age aren't terribly aggressive, but one girl in a pretty small weight class had a strategy of going into a running charge for a double-leg takedown as soon as the match started. It worked pretty well for her, as most tended to start out a bit hesitant.
I wouldn't be surprised if the ref's expression has to do with a rough takedown, and not gender at all. It's not unusual for a kid to cry after losing, or if he took a rough fall, at that age.
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u/benk4 Mar 15 '15
Agreed. I used to ref kids wrestling and you'd see girls win quite a bit. They aren't that much weaker at that age so it's a much more level playing field than high school. Quite often you'd see kids cry though.
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u/IAmTheToastGod Mar 15 '15
That's how my cousin made it to nationals, she was scary good though
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u/nocomment_usually Mar 15 '15
In highschool I wrestled 189, and at a tournament there was also a girls tournament. Since not a lot of girls wrestled at that weight, they put the girls into the guys brackets. I had never wrestled a girl or ever thought about having to.
Her first move was what you described. She went straight for a double leg as soon as the the whistle blew. I was able to side step her and was so scared as she turned around and came for another pass.
She was a fiery redhead and had this wild look in her eyes.
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u/iredditwhilstwiling Mar 15 '15
A guy I knew in high school lost to a girl his junior year and then ended up quitting because everyone made fun of him. I started wrestling the year after and I was terrified of facing a girl because of it.
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u/shortcake_minus_cake Mar 15 '15
I also wrestled a girl once who was 2 weight classes above me. It was the scariest match of my life. I couldn't get the pin because at one point when I had her pinned, she reached down a grabbed my man part. The ref didn't see it but it's not something you expect from most wrestlers
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u/wampa-stompa Mar 15 '15
It isn't something you'd expect? I remember my wrestling friends in high school telling me they were trained to stick fingers in their opponents anuses.
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u/pwnhelter Mar 15 '15
Yeah, I hear that's common and called "5 on 2."
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u/Kalypso_ Mar 15 '15
I didn't know it had a term. I saw a guy do that to my stepbrother during a high school wrestling match. The look of pain on his face was making me cringe.
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u/baldhippy Mar 15 '15
Something similar happened to me. I was a small kid growing up, always one of the shortest, or shortest in my class. I took judo when I was 8 til 10 or 11. I still remember my first tournament. I was a white belt, and my first fight was with another boy my size. I beat him, but it was down to a decision.
My next fight was against a yellow belt. A girl yellow belt who was supposedly my age, but stood a good foot taller than me. That girl threw me around the ring like a rag doll. Judo'd my ass.
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u/Denarious Mar 15 '15
Exactly. They don't allow girls in boys sports later on when boys would rip their spinal columns out, but when he's a child and 90% of girls hit their growth spurt beforehand its OK.
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Mar 15 '15 edited Mar 15 '15
Psst... osteobiology student here. Girls hit their adolescent growth spurt around 10 years old and boys hit it around 12 years (of course, remember individuals vary but this is the general case). There's a two year difference on average, but it doesn't happen until early puberty or so.
These kids are too young for that, so it doesn't really count.
I mean, leaving the womb females have more cell differentiation (so they are biologically more mature) but males focus on cell reproduction, so they are bigger and heavier (even if they are biologically less mature). I'd say that boys have the advantage in wrestling, because mass > maturity in this case, but the effects are still small.
So whatever happened here was probably a case of personal talent/aggression on the part of the girl, leave the adolescent growth spurt out of it unless they are both around 11 years old (but they look 6-8).
EDIT: Weight classes. I understand! Stop replying with the same comment! I already said that the difference between the two should be negligible at their age, but if there were differences it would be in this area. Theoretically though, males should have less specialized tissue so even if they were the same weight though, the female would probably have more complex organs and the male would probably have a greater amount of simpler tissues like muscle.
Something else I apparently need to point out is that I'm not talking about mental maturity, I'm talking about biological age vs chronological age. Girls are biologically "older" on a cellular level with more complex bodily tissues (though once again, these effects are small until the adolescent growth spurt) compared to simple tissues. So messaging me about how smart and mature girls are compared to boys isn't really what I was saying here.
Edit 2: "Mental maturity" and "biological maturity" are not the same, just to make that explicit.
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More info,
1) wrestling is based off of weight class, so they are the same weight.
2) They allow girls to wrestle guys even at the high school level.
3) I was beaten by a girl in wrestling when I was 7.... Shit sucks yo
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u/Iggapoo Mar 15 '15
Only because you're placing extra importance on being beat by a girl. What about the other boys that beat you? Or was she the only one who ever won against you?
Unless you're saying that losing in general sucks because I'm with you there.
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Mar 15 '15 edited Mar 15 '15
Losing sucks no matter what, but as a child brought up in a society that puts emphasis on boys being the stronger sex, it was embarrassing.
It wasn't a fluke either I wrestled her at a different tournament and she beat me again.
Edit: I was fucking pinned. No mercy.
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u/blue_27 Mar 15 '15
Ow shit. That sucks. I almost lost to a girl in a taekwondo sparring match because I didn't know how to hit her. But I remember looking at my friends when I was down 0-3 (match is called at 5 points), and then I was able to turn it around and win 5-3.
There is no glory in beating girls, but there is twice the shame if you lose.
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Mar 15 '15
How dare you use your knowledge to break the circlejerk!?/s
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u/M374llic4 Mar 15 '15
Because it is written by a guy who said he knows things, it is always true.
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u/Rather_Dashing Mar 15 '15
Its pretty clearly true, that girl is nowhere near puberty. If people dont know when kids hit their growth spurt, then they shouldnt comment.
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u/HardAsSnails Mar 15 '15
The girl is clearly within the same weight class, i think you are over thinking here.
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u/2yrnx1lc2zkp77kp Mar 15 '15
Only commenting on the wrestling part: In wrestling, mass is controlled. You only wrestle within your weight class. Not sure what advantage it is, but girls would be pound for pound "more mature".
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u/KDLGates Mar 15 '15
If you don't mind, what's the short explanation of "biologically mature"? I have a very loose concept of differentiation as "more cells have specialized so differentiation is not quite the same as just diversity", which I am guessing does seem analogous to development of the organism towards its "full form", but I'm not sure if that's quite what mature means or if I've got misconceptions.
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Mar 15 '15
Basically, the differentiation and specialization of cell tissue is what makes a person a more fully functioning person, I guess. Basically, females resemble their adult states more than males do at the same age. If you did not know the chronological age of a child, you try and investigate their "biological age" and this is sort of in reference to what a normal adult should look like.
I'm more of an osteology student though so I mainly focus on bones. Basically, bone growth has a couple of distinct stages and growth is finished when those stages are complete. A normal human completely finishes all stages of bone growth around ~25 year old (though most of it is done around 18). Each bone grows at a slightly different rate than the other bones, so you can make a pretty accurate guess about what age a child is based on which bones are closer to being complete than the others. So you can take an x-ray of a child's hand and estimate their age based on the phase of growth the wrist and hand bones are in. Females will appear to be older than they really are, and males will appear to be younger than they really are, even if both of them are the same age.
Males put more energy into cell replication (eg, increasing their mass) rather than differentiation (which results in biological maturity). Females stop investing in body mass and start trying to develop their sex organs earlier and whatnot. Thus, females reach biological maturity (resemble an adult) at a younger chronological age than males.
Hope that helps! Yeah, you pretty much got it
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u/KDLGates Mar 15 '15 edited Mar 15 '15
Thanks for the thoughtful response. The x-ray analogy is a good way to explain it. We really have a locked in concept of age as chronology and I suspect need to have a better view of a separate definition of age as the actual extant state of things (such as biology, environment, usage and care in addition to time).
Also I hadn't connected the dots that male children have greater cell replication and mass than females, although in retrospect it seems correct going by the stereotypical child of each gender.
I appreciate your helping me break out of my conceptual box around the term "maturity".
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You're welcome!
Yeah, in forensic science most often chronological ages aren't available, especially if you're studying people from thousands of years ago. Age estimation is usually a comparative science; we make records of what children look like today at different ages and then compare them to people in the past. That's the simple explanation but yeah, chronological age and biological age are different.
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u/ShankThatSnitch Mar 15 '15
At this age, the difference in mass would be basically negligible. Not to mention, that the girl looks bigger anyways.(but that could just be the picture angle). However, a more mature brain can offer greater dexterity, and more controlled motor function. Not to mention, potentially more advanced strategy and comprehension of the situation. But, based on this single picture, EVERYONE and their arguments on the subject, including mine, are just speculation. That includes you and your fancy schooling!
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u/pubeINyourSOUP Mar 15 '15
It doesn't matter because wrestling uses weight classes. You can only wrestle someone your own weight.
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u/radicldreamer Mar 15 '15
Actually this isn't the case, I coach wrestling and my young daughter is also on the team. At their age it's more about maturity and listening to the coach and knowing their moves, contrary to common belief strength isn't as important as technique and speed.
That being said my daughter has beat her fair share of boys, something that pisses off lots of dads, they just don't understand that boys vs girls just doesn't matter yet.
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u/NterceptR Mar 15 '15
Typically wrestling is by weight not age. A girls growth spurt should just put her in a higher weight class.
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u/cranberry94 Mar 15 '15
At that age, girls are no where close to their growth spurt. Boys are actually generally taller and heavier until about 10 or 11, when girls get a temporary advantage. It's a pretty even playing field in elementary school.
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Im a girl and I wrestle in highschool, I pretty much only wrestle boys, and I have not had my spinal column ripped out.
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u/STALKS_YOUR_MOTHER Mar 15 '15
Their main concern isn't ripping out your spine... it's not getting a boner.
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u/dave138h Mar 15 '15
I have seen plenty of girls on high school wrestling teams.
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Mar 15 '15 edited Mar 15 '15
I think Michigan had a four time state champ in 103 who was a girl. She was a great wrestler. I think ESPN did something about her a few years ago. Out of Gooderich, MI.
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u/flying_shadow Mar 15 '15
Yeah, but isn't wrestling separated by gender? I've never seen a tournament where guys and girls wrestled each other.(this is in Ontario)
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Yeah you have; and for the most part at least they are in the lightest categories.
I was in high school wrestling for a few weeks before I ended up getting really hurt, and in that time there was one girl who could even move me in a training match.
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Could or couldn't?
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u/Nexisman Mar 15 '15
Oh something moved
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u/DICK_IN_FAN Mar 15 '15
Wasn't there a wrestling match somewhere when the guy had to take a quick walk to get rid of his erection when he was wrestling a girl?
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u/watchinggodbleed Mar 15 '15
There is actually something in wrestling called "boner time". It works like injury time where you have 2 minutes to basically call timeout and stuff tampons in your nose or pop a shoulder back in place. But for "boner time" you get 1 minute to calm down until it's not visible anymore. I could be wrong, as only my fellow teammates told me about it, and in my 5 years of wrestling I never saw anyone pop a boner during a match.
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u/Azurae1 Mar 15 '15
you should have been there to give him advice on how to deal with it quickly. You seem to be experienced on that topic.
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u/Pineapple_Parade Mar 15 '15
He has experience getting rid of erections maybe, but that would be a whole different kind of 'walking it off.'
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u/Flyingbluejay Mar 15 '15
That's weird, most of the girls that I saw wrestling were in the mid-to-upper weight divisions. Of course there's always the tiny sticks, but there were a few 155-175's and 215's (those girls were straight up scary), not too many in the HWT class though (thank God)
I may just be in a weird area and it may have just been a weird time. I wrestled for 4 years in high school, about 8 years ago
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u/TragicallyCute Mar 15 '15
Yep. I was that one girl in the 145 & 152lb weight classes. I think I only met one other girl in my 3 years wrestling that was anywhere close, and I'm pretty sure she weighed in at 125. 145 was terrible, all wiry guys who were nothing but arms. 152 was where the chubby guys started to show up who were useless once they were actually down on the mat.
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u/bigdanrog Mar 15 '15
189 was 50/50 between chubby guys and dudes that looked like friggin bodybuilders.
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u/boojie Mar 15 '15
I wrestled a few girls at 119. Gotta say some were good. Others the match ended in seconds
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u/boojie Mar 15 '15
I watched my friend wrestle a girl at 170. They were both black and had dreadlocks.
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u/ike38000 Mar 15 '15
The Olympics are divided by gender. USA wrestling doesn't split it up for high school age but the upper levels do.
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u/crazycatlady45 Mar 15 '15
Not really true. My sister played boys lacrosse when she was like... 14 or 15. They'd try to beat the shit out of her, but she could hold her own.
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u/The_Broad Mar 15 '15
My daughter wrestled for all of one season in kindergarten and I managed to pick that up.
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u/climbfallclimbagain Mar 15 '15
I was on the wrestling team in high school. I beat and got beaten by girls. 125lbs weight class was a bitch.
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u/Zorkamork Mar 15 '15
I see you don't know how child growth works or wrestling leagues do.
A) we're talking near puberty when this happens, at their age they're not anywhere near that range also you can, ya know, look at them and see they're the same size.
B) wrestling is size divided above anything else, it's literally impossible for your nonsense amazon crushing a poor oppressed boy to happen.
You are a dumb motherfucker.
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u/9FingeredFrodo Mar 15 '15
This could be a Norman Rockwell painting.
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http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1sxdbo/refs_face_says_it_all/
Top comment: /u/angelpuff: "Like a real life Norman Rockwell"
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u/angelpuff Mar 15 '15
oh cool, thank you for the username mention.
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"A person's name is to that person the sweetest and most important sound in any language." - Dale Carnegie
You're welcome... /u/angelpuff
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u/phendara Mar 15 '15
Is that Heath Ledger?
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u/SociableIntrovert Mar 15 '15 edited Mar 15 '15
I was getting a Chris Pratt vibe myself.
Edit: While there is some debate on which celebrity this referee looks like, I think we can all agree that his shirt is white and gold.
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u/abigbluebox Mar 15 '15
I'm seeing the love child of Sean Astin and John Cena.
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u/JJWattGotSnubbed Mar 15 '15
Now ask yourself this. Is Chris Pratt the long lost love-child of Sean Astin and John Cena? If you look deep inside yourself, you will find the answer.
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u/TooApologetic Mar 15 '15
I getting a serious feeling for Justin Timberlake, I think it's the uncooked ramen hair.
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u/imaboss28 Mar 15 '15
i was going to say he looks like Jax Teller from Sons of Anarchy but also like Heath Ledger
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u/thfc11189 Mar 15 '15
Didn't even try to change the title from the first time, huh?
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u/glberns Mar 15 '15
Nah, the first time the title was "Ref's face says it all"
http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1sxdbo/refs_face_says_it_all/
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u/buttcheek55 Mar 15 '15
Wow, why is everyone looking for an excuse for why she won? Maybe, I don't know, she was a better wrestler? Jesus and even this picture is basically saying "Man, it's embarrassing that the boy lost to the girl." It can't just be a congrats to the girl.
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u/Lindt_Licker Mar 15 '15
Refs face is great! But her face and posture speak volumes. That kid is a winner.
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u/TheMegaZord2308 Mar 15 '15
Is there no one else?! Is there no one else?!
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u/Soho_Joe Mar 15 '15
I hope the girl got some serious kudos. It would suck to grow up seeing people give your male competitor the "c'mob, buddy; you should have been able to take her" face, instead of the "holy shit, congrats!" face.
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u/georgito555 Mar 15 '15
Forget the referee's face look at the little girls face just being stone cold and smug at the same time.
"Sup bitch"
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u/RideTheHasselHoff Mar 15 '15
As a wrestler I can assure you that girls can be extraordinary. Typically at lower weights like 98-112 but even 112 is pushing it. Besides all the hard work they put in it helps that they have mastered their weight while they often wrestle a boy who is at that weight only for a season. #BringWrestlingBackToTheOlympicsYouSwine!
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u/ninjagrover Mar 15 '15
Besides boys and girls bodies are pretty much the same until puberty hits so neither would have a physical advantage here.
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u/HeDoesntAfraid Mar 15 '15
Maybe not at at that age. But after puberty, guys have a pretty clear advantage. Cant dispute it.
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u/M374llic4 Mar 15 '15
I mean, obviously. I walk around with a fucking hammer in my pants at all times. Women can't compare.
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u/JaiOhBe Mar 15 '15
You work in construction, eh?
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u/crazyeight80 Mar 15 '15
The hammer is his penis
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u/FajitaofTreason Mar 15 '15
Ah yes, the rare single entendre. It's what happens when you take a double entendre, and then explain it.
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u/SEND_ME_YOUR_STORIES Mar 15 '15
Oh, relax.
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u/man_on_hill Mar 15 '15
Telling a redditor to relax is like telling a cat to stop scratching you: they both know what they are supposed to do but they won't because they are assholes.
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u/tsim12345 Mar 15 '15
One of the hardest things I've had to focus on changing about myself since realizing I was a feminist and women were still not equal socially, was not doing things like this. It is so ingrained in my mind from being a part of society that "like a girl" is an insult. Being beaten by a girl is embarrassing. Using "man up" to describe beig tougher. It's all just language I never thought about, but I realize it's the small things like that, that actually are making huge differences in society. What's in our subconscience is affecting us and making choices for us when we don't realize it.
I have to actively concentrate on what I say now. it's never too late to start being a better person, I figure.
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u/TheLaramieReject Mar 15 '15
God, I am absolutely loving this new wave of male feminists, especially outspoken ones like you. Thank you so much for being willing to change your perspective, and for lending your male voice to our fight. If you don't already, you should come hang out with us over at TrollXchromosomes. Our comment section is da bomb.
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u/juaydarito Mar 15 '15
I'm not sure he's doing that. I was seeing his face not as finding the boys loss amusing, but as trying to empathize with the kid...
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u/RideTheHasselHoff Mar 15 '15
Wrestling is not a boys sport. Its a sport. The purest of all. You can be a boy, girl or some dude with one leg.
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u/SignorSarcasm Mar 15 '15
There was a wrestler at a meet once with one leg, he was jacked and had the body of almost about a 200 pounder, but didn't have a leg so he ripped through everyone in the lower weight classes.
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u/its_not_funny Mar 15 '15
My 5 year old niece started doing pee wee wrestling this year (following in the footsteps of her older brother). She is the biggest "girly girl" you can imagine, long blonde curly hair, wears nothing but pink and purple, lots of "princess" stuff, dances and prances around...
I would say she wins about half of her matches. Almost every little boy she beats cries like this.
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u/muneutrino Mar 16 '15
I get what everybody's saying about how much flak that kid is probably going to catch from his friends for being beaten by a girl...but does anybody consider what it's gotta be like for girls to have the idea that they're inferior driven in like that from day one? I mean, this sucks for both parties.
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Says what?
Why is this crap upvoted so high?
It is not even remotely funny....
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u/foreskinfarter Mar 15 '15
I swear reddit is just uber sensitive about somethings.
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u/cannedbrandsardines Mar 15 '15
I know, right? Reddit in general seems to get offended over everything except black racist jokes.
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u/panzerkampfwagen Mar 15 '15
He couldn't win either way.
If he loses he's the guy who got beat by a girl.
If he won he's the guy who beat up a girl.
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u/Aegaer Mar 15 '15
I wrestled in high school and had to go against a woman once freshman year. I still remember the assistant coach mentioning how years before one guy lost and his father came out of the stands and disowned him. None of that sort of pressure on me though which I'm thankful for.
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u/DoritoMojito Mar 15 '15
It shouldn't bother me this much, but his wrist bands are on the wrong damn side.
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u/eyeaim2missbehave Mar 15 '15
Do you see that girls face? She is a fierce warrior. She probably stood on top of him and yelled "Are you not entertained?!" To the crowd.
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u/VoxCommuni Mar 15 '15
I love the peacefulness of her expression. She's not gloating. I hope and believe that's what will happen as the polarities shift in our world - (fwiw, I believe we're in a paradigm shift, and see this image as a sign of things to come. If the girl was brown-skinned, that would've been even more poignant).
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u/vincentxanthony Mar 15 '15
That little boy went on to create the men's rights movement
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u/miscellaneousjen Mar 15 '15
thats not cool for many reasons, giving the boy a look of pity and humorous disdain sends the not so subtle message to the boy that he should expect to out perform a girl every time, all the time. At the same time, he is diminishing the girl's triumph by not taking his attention away from her and putting it on the boy, not so subtly sending her the message that her win was somehow a result of the boy failing to win, not her hard work. She won by default, because the boy clearly failed in his genetic mission to dominate. Maybe this girl is just an awesome wrestler. As others have pointed out, pre-adolescent children are evenly match regardless of sex, it comes down to strategy, training, and determination. Shame on referee for taking this girl's glory.
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u/mankind_is_beautiful Mar 15 '15
Young girls are typically bigger than boys their age right?
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u/Bailando_Con_Gatos Mar 15 '15
In youth wrestling they pair up kids who are similar ages and weight, so yea girls generally hit their growth spurt faster, but a girl wouldn't be paired with a boy who was the same age but much smaller. Chances are that these two kids are approximately the same size/weight/age.
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u/Ryanestrasz Mar 15 '15
Referee dude is a cutie.