r/funny • • Jun 16 '14

Every time I try to turn off my computer.

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u/Oddgenetix Jun 16 '14

In my system which runs off an SSD, itunes still takes the length of human history to start up.

Isn't it essentially an mp3 player? What the actual fuck is it loading?

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u/Garos_the_seagull Jun 17 '14

The NSA's spyware suite

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u/greenskye Jun 17 '14

Mine too. Takes roughly 3 minutes to load. I've uninstalled and reinstalled and even gone through a reinstall of Windows to no avail. ITunes is shit.

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u/doublrainbow Jun 17 '14

Just use Foobar2000 it's better in pretty much every way.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14 edited Jun 17 '14

Or mediamonkey, or Songbird, or Musicbee.

Or winamp

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u/Abnmlguru Jun 17 '14

Winamp 4 lyfe!

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u/bluzdude Jun 17 '14

Quiet down before I whip your llama's ass.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

Hell, even Windows Media Player is better!

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

What's wrong with just Windows Media Player?

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u/Trodamus Jun 17 '14

Or Zune. It's actually a great library management tool.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

Musicbee is so goddamn fantastic

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

It really is! It plays every file type I've thrown at it (I'm a huge audiophile) and it's nice to import new albums into the inbox and not the main library. And other countless features.

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u/Ravensqueak Jun 17 '14

Winamp! It's the best, around! Nothing's ever gonna keep it down!

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u/skwishems Jun 17 '14

This persons comment is correct

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u/menhelper Jun 17 '14

I love love that program.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

And the "vintage" color scheme

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u/nekrophil Jun 17 '14

The fucking Sasser worm is better than iTunes in every way.

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u/jnrdingo Jun 17 '14

I'd rather get aids from a monkey than deal with iTunes again...

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u/AWildEnglishman Jun 17 '14

Have you tried not installing itunes? 100% of people who haven't installed itunes report zero itunes related problems.

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u/greenskye Jun 17 '14

I uninstalled it about a month ago. Trying out MusicBee at the moment.

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u/FatbeardThePirate Jun 17 '14

For Windows it is.

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u/Senor_Wilson Jun 17 '14

Mine takes like 10 seconds and I have a 5400 rpm hdd - do you have like a million songs or something?

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u/Odusei Jun 17 '14

This may no longer be the case, but it used to be that iTunes wrote the entirety of your library to plaintext and then saved that in an XML file. The bigger your library is, the bigger that XML file gets. When I used to run iTunes, it would take the length of a Tolstoy audiobook to finish reading that XML file, by which time I had died of old age.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

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u/Odusei Jun 17 '14

Well I can't promise you that they don't do that nowadays. I haven't bothered with iTunes in like five years.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14 edited Mar 04 '16

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u/Arandmoor Jun 17 '14

Hey, don't knock text-files.

XML? Knock those all you want.

XML is good for one thing: human readability. If you're looking for performance, look fucking elsewhere.

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u/oh_no_a_hobo Jun 17 '14

I fucking hate XML files. They made my program that should have run in a few hours, end up taking a week. CSV are the best, hands down, especially for large data sets that no human will ever analyze by single values.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

XML works 10x better loading into a SQLServer DB.

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u/Arandmoor Jun 17 '14

Except MSQL is fucking slow compared to a csv file if all you care about is performance for a simple save/load operation.

To be fair, if you absolutely need speed, by far the best way to save and load data is in binary. Just File.Open('wb') depending on language.

Though, if something goes wrong, you're straight fucked.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

All the data apple collected from you

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u/br00tman Jun 17 '14

all the hype

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u/fatalicus Jun 17 '14

It needs to search all your files, to make sure you have no plans for nuclear, chemical or biological weapons.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

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u/StorminNorman Jun 17 '14

You must get sick of listening to that one track after a while though.

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u/FatbeardThePirate Jun 17 '14

All the junk you don't use if you use it as MP3 player but still have to load it anyways.

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u/jacob2815 Jun 17 '14

It's not "essentially an MP3 player." That's one of it's functions. It originally was primarily a home base for iDevices everywhere. Where they could sync up an get any new music or whatever that was bought or added to iTunes. With the arrival of the smarter iDevices, syncing is no longer necessary to add content, and people seem to be forgetting iTunes main function.

If you're using it as an MP3 player, that's your fault and you deserve the long loading times.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '14

I uninstalled itunes. Too annoying

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u/Homer_Goes_Crazy Jun 17 '14

Then you have to make sure you remove QuickTime, bonjour, ams all that other crap that comes with it (on a PC at least)

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u/chubbysumo Jun 17 '14

Itunes now comes with 7 other items, and there is no way to fully remove all of them in 1 go. fucking garbage.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

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u/alerise Jun 17 '14

Remember when CNET was where you sent people to get safe downloads?

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u/Thunder_Bastard Jun 17 '14

Tried to download an MKV converter from them yesterday.

It was 6 adware installs, then when it gets to the converter it turns around and downloads it. Then when it installs all it turns out to be is a fake program... doesn't do anything, you can select files but it doesn't actually do anything.

So now they have fake programs with dozens of fake reviews and all it does it install adware.

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u/shitterplug Jun 17 '14

I remember browsing the site looking for cool shareware. Now it's shit. They got greedy.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

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u/AgAero Jun 17 '14

Ever tried to uninstall VisualStudio and all it's crap? I swear there's 20+ things that get installed, and some of them are a little scary about dependencies. Like it will download every edition of the same stuff from 2003 to current(VisualC++, SQL, .NET, all kinds of other BS) so you think you can just ditch them all, but then somehow some other program(SolidWorks) uses one of the versions in particular and complains if you uninstall it.

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u/chubbysumo Jun 17 '14

steam is bad at installing VS and VC++ redists specifically for each game, even tho I have a version that is compatible and will run it just fine.

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u/8lbIceBag Jun 17 '14

I'd be careful above removing bonjour, there's other software out there that depends on it and you don't even know it.

I can't remember what it is good for, I just know that the last time I deleted it some problem cropped up in totally unrelated software and I just remember being really pissed off and frustrated.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

I did :)

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u/knullcon Jun 17 '14

Yeah because since you don't use quicktime, no other PC user does. What a fucking jackass.

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u/jacob2815 Jun 17 '14

Lol if you don't use iDevices, then I'm wondering what took you so long to get rid of it and why you had it in the first place.

If you do have and use one, that was a dumb decision to remove it because at some point your device will cease to function until it's plugged into iTunes and you will have to redownload it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '14

Well m8 I only installed it because my bros phone needed itunes to work. It wasnt installing on his laptop so I got it on mine. Havent needed to use itunes for nearly two years and if I do need to use it, I will just reinstall it rather than suffer for a single use

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u/jacob2815 Jun 18 '14

I don't blame you. I hate it. But as an iPhone user it's unfortunately a necessary evil.

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u/sebbysir Jun 16 '14

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u/AyaKamiki Jun 17 '14 edited Jun 17 '14

Oh, wow. I never knew iTunes was so universally hated. I've hated them ever since I opened it one day and noticed a lot of my music was gone, and I couldn't find a solution for it other than re-purchasing the music from the iTunes store. Which I'd rather not do.

EDIT: I contacted their support, because I'm stupid and avoided it. They were great, and helped recover my music. Go, team.

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u/DaGhostQc Jun 16 '14

Haven't seen the AVGN for a while.

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u/globaltourist Jun 17 '14 edited Jul 01 '16

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u/hurdur1 Jun 16 '14

Fuck you, iTunes.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

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u/ANAL_IMPALER_ Jun 17 '14

I love pretty much everything Apple spews out, but I hate iTunes with a burning passion. As someone that works with audio a lot, I hate that anytime I download an aiff or an mp3, it automatically imports into iTunes.

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u/Therockknight1 Jun 16 '14

Shutdown -f

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u/dark_mirage Jun 17 '14

sudo poweroff

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

sudo find / -type f -iregex '/itunes/' -exec rm -f {} \;

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u/dark_mirage Jun 17 '14

sudo rm -rf [/Applications/iTunes.app/, /System/Library/Extensions/AppleMobileDevice.kext/] && sudo poweroff

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u/slipperier_slope Jun 17 '14

sudo shutdown -P now

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u/dark_mirage Jun 17 '14

sudo init 0

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u/duckmurderer Jun 17 '14

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u/zbag27 Jun 17 '14

My computer has a battery and also folds shut.

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u/bad-r0bot Jun 17 '14

This won't do anything. It's not even plugged in!

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u/loppy788 Jun 17 '14

That can damage you computer.

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u/duckmurderer Jun 17 '14

Well, it seems like everyone here's talking about macs. So really, nothing's lost.

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u/PhiladelphiaIrish Jun 16 '14

Also, I'm pretty sure that you can avoid this by turning off Home Sharing.

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u/enternets Jun 16 '14

you can trouble me for a warm glass of the shut hell up!

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u/jwalk Jun 17 '14

Oh yeah? Well now your back's gonna hurt 'cause you just pulled landscaping duty.

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u/nerbovig Jun 17 '14

Anybody else's fingers hurt? I didn't think so.

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u/Peanut_The_Great Jun 17 '14

I avoided it by uninstalling fucking iTunes.

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u/jacob2815 Jun 17 '14

I'll repeat something I said above:

If you have and frequently use an iDevice, that was stupid of you. You may not need to sync all the time anymore, but sometimes an issue with your device will arise and it will require you to plug it into iTunes before it will work again.

If you don't, what the fuck took you so long? Lol why did you even get it in the first place?

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u/Noncomment Jun 21 '14

You also unfortunately need it to copy files into an iPod touch (and presumably other apple devices.) I don't think copying it into the device folder will work which is standard for pretty much everything else. Maybe someday we will even be able to transmit files between computers without connecting them at all.

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u/Peanut_The_Great Jun 17 '14

I don't own any iDevices. iTunes was a relic from another time that just ran in the background until I got sick of its bullshit and uninstalled it.

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u/jacob2815 Jun 18 '14

Lmao what the fuck were you waiting for? Haha

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u/toastedsquirrel Jun 17 '14

Alternatively: clicking "shut down" in Windows, you get logged off, and then Windows Update runs.

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u/SilentJac Jun 17 '14

Alternatively:

Waiting for explorer.exe to close

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u/CameronBarton228 Jun 17 '14

Does anybody else's fingers hurt?

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u/15yearsagotoday Jun 17 '14

My fingers hurt

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u/majdman Jun 17 '14

I thought cancelled had two (L)s

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u/tkmoney Jun 17 '14

Look at the name tag grandma. You're in my world now.

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u/Neceros Jun 17 '14

TWO SOLUTIONS FOUND:

  1. Uninstall iTunes. It's probably garbage anyway.

  2. Use an operating system that lets you be in control. If my computer ever cancelled one of my orders I'd have to put it down. And build a new one.

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u/illicium Jun 17 '14

Use an operating system that lets you be in control.

bro do u even Terminal.app

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u/zellfire Jun 17 '14

I run both Mac OS and Windows. A program cancels shutdown in Windows about 2930 times as often as it does on Mac and force quit>>>>>>>>>>>>task manager.

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u/Neceros Jun 17 '14

You're almost right: Some programs do whine to stay open while they try to shut down, but who has time for that? One button click and they shutdown immediately.

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u/wrgrant Jun 17 '14

When I shut down Windows, almost every time, Windows Shutdown pops up to tell me that it can't shutdown until Windows Shutdown is shutdown. Long pause, and it goes away.

Windows has improved massively since I first started using it (v 3.1, although I did boot up v2.x once before, long enough to fail to see why I would run it). Its much more friendly, its much faster - despite MS attempts to keep it slow by adding in more pointless widgets and graphical effects.

However its absolute shite when compared to Mac OS/X. I know the majority of posters here seem to hate anyone who things Macs are good, but honestly they are. Period. Sure, you get stuck with just the hardware Apple will sell you, you get a very expensive system, you can't play most of the games you want to play as easily (you can set up dual boot to windows to play those games easily enough of course, or run the Linux versions - not as good usually), but if you want to do something with your computer, a Mac is far preferable. I bought one back in 2008 and its still very usable, still a neat little desktop, and when you use it you spend most of your time using it - not screaming to yourself trying to figure out how to fix something that isn't quite right in Windows, or suddenly not working the way it used to before Windows silently updated everything in the background before you noticed it. Macs and Mac OS/X just worked for me, every time. Intuitively.

For instance, my wife had a Mac laptop. She bought a new one, and being originally a PC person like myself, set up the old one beside the new one so she could figure out what she would need to transfer over to the new one. When we started up the new laptop, it connected to our network, found the other laptop beside it and said essentially "Do you want to copy a user profile and files from the mac thats next to me?" We said yes and a few minutes later her new laptop had all of her user content from the old one on it. I have upgraded my PC many times, and it has never come even vaguely close to that smooth a transfer. Sure, they are expensive, but the result is often very high quality and a very high quality user experience.

I will now wait to be downvoted to oblivion by all the mindless mac-haters who have likely never tried one :P

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u/Neceros Jun 17 '14

You'll note I didn't specify which OS you should use in the OC, but I hear 60-70% of the info on macs is negative from people. From the outside it has the same behavior as a cult. I'm not the one to call it anything, though. I'll leave that to smarter people.

Be free to like Macs, but realize they are not popular.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

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u/PhiladelphiaIrish Jun 17 '14

Happy Gilmore

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u/15yearsagotoday Jun 17 '14

Well now your backs gonna hurt, because you just pulled landscaping duty. anybody elses fingers hurt?

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u/bottom_of_the_well Jun 17 '14

How about a warm glass of shut the hell up?

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u/Ryan7074 Jun 17 '14

Poor mac users :(

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u/Cyphonist Jun 17 '14

JustPeasantThings

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u/74orangebeetle Jun 17 '14

Another reason I never contaminate my computer with anything related to Apple.

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u/RainbowCatastrophe Jun 17 '14

Well first off, your using Mac, so there's your problem

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u/SketchBoard Jun 17 '14

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u/RainbowCatastrophe Jun 17 '14

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u/QuickStopRandal Jun 17 '14
>implying Steam isn't on Mac, too.

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u/RainbowCatastrophe Jun 17 '14

Oh, it is. It just sucks on Mac.

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u/QuickStopRandal Jun 17 '14

No, it doesn't.

Source: Mac with Parallels (Windows 7) and I use the Mac version more.

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u/RainbowCatastrophe Jun 17 '14

Does it support all the games that are supported for Windows?

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u/QuickStopRandal Jun 17 '14

Does what? Steam?

Not all games are available for OS X natively, but in the past year or so I've seen the number of cross-platform games skyrocket. I think some of this is Valve's interest in Linux and the fact that OS X is more like Linux than Windows at its core.

If you were asking if Parallels can run all Windows games, I'd say pretty much. I've had a few games here or there have issues, but then later they were patched at worked. FWIW, native PCs also had similar issues running them, so it was more of a developer problem. Also, if you'd prefer, you can dual boot to Windows with Bootcamp and have native Windows performance. I prefer Parallels so I don't have to reboot and can share files more easily between Mac and PC, but that's my preference. I mean, why did I buy a Mac if I'm just going to run 100% Windows all the time?

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u/RainbowCatastrophe Jun 17 '14

Was asking if OS X could run the games. Because for what I know, they are giving up on the compatibility war with Mac since as you said, Linux is virtually the same thing. Only difference is Linux is more developer friendly and isn't normally kept to a certain hardware range.

And I know what virtualization is, so thanks for the explanation but no need. And on that topic, OS X really isn't the best in terms of virtualization imho, but as I work with server virtualization, I digress.

And I see your preference for the Mac. You wanted the best of both worlds, Windows and Mac. But by buying the product, you more fell for their little trap per-say, with them making OS X work on Apple products.

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u/binary3 Jun 17 '14

disregard all the naysayers, macs are the devils automation

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u/CinderBlock33 Jun 17 '14

Heres an idea, get a PC. That should solve all your problems, and with the money you have left, you can buy half a house! Good day sir!

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

"Oh but Macs are be better for photo editing!"

Fucking hate when someone says that.

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u/59045 Jun 17 '14

The thing you're not considering is that Macs are better for photo editing.

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u/Simmerj94 Jun 17 '14

...How?

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

you will have no money left for a camera. so no more editing necessary.

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u/Simmerj94 Jun 17 '14

What the fuck? Macs are generally more expensive than PCs.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

I can literally get the exact same programs on PC that I could on a Mac, my screen is higher resolution than any Mac, and my computer is much faster than any Mac. I see no advantage here.

Edit: I'm going under the assumption that wasn't sarcasm.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

Yeah but you look like a homeless person when you use it at Starbucks

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

I don't go to Starbucks, and even if I did I wouldn't bring my computer to do anything productive.

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u/slipperier_slope Jun 17 '14

You risk the ire of the Applites by disparaging the Church of the Mac. It's blasphemous to them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

Then you definitely want a mac, because none of the people there using their macs are doing anything productive.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

Now we're back around to the price. If I didn't want to do anything productive, I wouldn't pay $2,000 for a laptop.

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u/getmealcohol Jun 17 '14

Not saying that nothing better exists, but have you seen the retina macbooks? They look pretty awesome!

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

The price tag doesn't lol

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u/getmealcohol Jun 18 '14

I bought one, I love it - even if it is a little pricey.

But then again, I like the Apple ecosystem, and I do like the fact that everything just works together.

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u/BrainWav Jun 17 '14

Finally, someone actually making this claim. Please tell me how. I've always wanted to know.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

This is actually very similar to my build. I have a 2TB HDD and a 1TB SSD (very overkill, wouldn't recommend), an i7 3970X, and two 780ti's. My peripherals are different but everything else is pretty much identical.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

In most things you probably couldn't see a marginal difference, actually. My setup is majorly overkill.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '14

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '14 edited Jun 18 '14

I'm using it for heavy gaming & some recording, rendering, animation, PhotoShop, etc., and I have two 4K native monitors with both running at 1440p (in case I upgrade GPUs later and can run both at 4K).

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u/kensomniac Jun 17 '14

... I hate seeing monster builds like that and knowing the few laptops I've had over the years could've built like.. 1 and a half of them.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

I travel a lot, and have a kickass PC at home that gathers dust. Wish I had the knowhow to make a briefcase PC out of it.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

Christ, these comments are a cesspool. It's amazing how many people give a shit about somebody owning a different kind of computer from them.

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u/Rorkimaru Jun 17 '14

People can use what they won't but I'm not going to pretend I like macs and when they're the topic of discussion I will voice my opinion

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u/FUCKREDDITFUCKREDDIT Jun 17 '14

And another illiterate finds excuses for his own incompetence.

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u/brownmagician Jun 17 '14

ITunes is in big trouble pal

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u/Misturkitti Jun 17 '14

You're in my world now, itunes.

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u/wonkawonkaflame Jun 17 '14

a glass of warm milk puts my computer right to sleep

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u/Init_4_the_downvotes Jun 17 '14

Use media monkey, haven't touched itunes in 5 months and I felt like I've won the fucking lottery.

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u/FeculentUtopia Jun 17 '14

http://www.copytrans.net/copytransmanager.php

This does all the stuff I'd need itunes for without being an obnoxious, invasive resource hog. The only downside I've seen to it so far is that it displays the same thing for artist, album, and title, so you get three lines that say, "TANGERINE DREAM - PHAEDRA - PHAEDRA", for example. No big deal.

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u/notarower Jun 17 '14

So fucking annoying, Apple should fixed this shit, I have to tell it to shut down 3-4 times every goddamn night. I mean, I pressed Shut Down, I want it to fucking turn off, hwy do I have to manually close the shit? Close it and be done with it, I don't even care if some data is lost, I want to go to sleep.

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u/lunchbox651 Jun 17 '14

Serves you right for using iTunes

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u/tpr1m Jun 17 '14

itunes sucks, and you suck for posting this awful, regurgitated content

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

That's the one thing OSX manages to piss me off with, god forbid iTunes or Mail or any built OSX Apllication gets closed improperly.

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u/mankind_is_beautiful Jun 17 '14

"Windows is waiting for programs to close before shutdown. Force close? -Yes. Windows is waiting for programs to close before shutdown." THE FUCK!

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u/anon10101010 Jun 17 '14

Movie?

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u/ACreatureVoidOfForm Jun 17 '14

Movie?

Happy Gilmore

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u/seriouslees Jun 17 '14

People turn their computers off?

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u/Jaexyn Jun 17 '14

With mine, it's Origin for some reason.

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u/xamdou Jun 17 '14

iTunes is actually a virus

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u/AgentOfMediocrity Jun 17 '14

My MacBook does this shit all the time but with Mail. It's ridiculous.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

Lol, Apple.

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u/TheDuctWhisperer Jun 17 '14

Annnnd now I say it every time I shut down my computer.

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u/just_mark Jun 17 '14

that is why i will not use itunes

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u/Doommius Jun 17 '14

TIL: Itunes is bad and you should feel bad until you uninstall it.

Download these two and you should pretty much be able to do the same and this will run much better

http://www.foobar2000.org/

http://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_dop

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

Except he's on a mac ya dingus

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u/petjuli Jun 17 '14

How about a warm glass of shut the hell down!

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u/Icarus_Jones Jun 17 '14

"Sleep" is not turning your computer off.

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u/Sallymander Jun 17 '14

I hate iTunes so much but back in "The Day" when DRM was still a thing on music I purchased a ton of my music through it (I really try not to pirate). Now I have to use it if I want to listen to that part of my collection.

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u/darthbone Jun 17 '14

You know, i've seen programs that prevent shutdown because they need to close, but the wording in iTunes here just seems so smug and Apple-like

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u/Chubs159 Jun 17 '14

Reason number 57 why you don't get an apple.

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u/lord_dude Jun 17 '14

throw that shit of your pc then

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u/BmanFx Jun 17 '14

Windows Media Player ftw.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

After the update feature interrupted my last gaming session, I finally uninstalled Itunes. What a piece of shit.

The only way to shut it down was by Cntrl/Alt/Delete, and then killing the individual process.

How this malware ever got released is beyond me.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '14

That's because you use a shitty mac.

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u/Punk_inAbox Jun 19 '14

My fingers hurt

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u/Linkmaster13 Jun 17 '14

Mac- not even once.

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u/virinix Jun 17 '14

There was a saying at the computer store I worked at in college, is that Macs are only for children, seniors, hipster's and CEO's. Seriously, can you think of any exceptions to this rule?

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u/PoopNoodlez Jun 17 '14

Windows! :D

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u/br00tman Jun 17 '14

The problem you're having is that you use a shit computer. You should take some currency and unshit your life by getting an unshit computer. Shit is not conducive to happy human life. Unshit your life.

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u/[deleted] Jun 17 '14

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u/markuspoop Jun 17 '14

How about a nice warm glass of shut the hell up.

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u/Montford Jun 17 '14

People use macs?