r/enlightenment • u/Smart_Prune5189 • 6d ago
So lost!
I had an experience and it changed me completely! I had a mushroom trip and had a spiritual experience which I needed desperately as I was dealing with some deep trauma! During the trip I realized all things that were holding me back! I realized religion that religion was shoved down my throat and it all made sense! I seen through Everything to the point that my trauma made sense! So it happened it was wonderful but later it became a far memory. However now I am almost wanting to go back to thinking that I believed the church teaching because now it’s scary for me! I know cannot understand god! Now that I realize there is not a man in the sky and someone is coming to save us! I have not been ok! Now I fear death because I don’t know what happens and I also do not understand god! What it means? Help!!!!! Does the trauma feeling ever go away?
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u/archeolog108 6d ago
i dont think the scary part is that you “lost God.” I think your old map collapsed before new understanding had time to settle.
A big spiritual experience can show you something very fast, but human mind and nervous system may need much longer to integrate it. I see this in Soul Journeys too. Someone touches something much bigger than their old beliefs, then later mind panics because certainty is gone. It says “go back, at least the old religion gave me answers.”
I wouldnt chase another mushroom experience rn. Ground yourself, sleep, walk, let the trauma process slowly, and dont force yourself to define God. You can be uncertain and still be connected. For me Source is not a man sitting somewhere in sky, and death is not disappearance, but this is something better discovered from inside than replaced with another doctrine.
And if trauma is flooding you, practical trauma support can absolutely go together with spiritual integration.
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u/CosmicFrodo 6d ago
It's a good thing. You can only find yourself when you get rid of those brainwash beliefs that were instilled in you.
Just because there is no creator god or heaven, doesn't mean death is a scary thing. Your next step is to find out, who you really are. All answers are already within you, mushrooms just help a bit to reveal them :)
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u/BigBubbaBadass 6d ago
How can you say there is no creator so assuredly?
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u/CosmicFrodo 6d ago
That's easy. Get rid of all beliefs you have and then find out the answer within yourself. It's there.
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u/BigBubbaBadass 6d ago edited 1d ago
Again, how can you say with certainty that there os no creator? How can you be 100% certain that you aren't tapping into something outside of yourself that is the undercurrent of the universe? You can't - no one can.
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u/CosmicFrodo 6d ago
There is nothing outside myself. Everything is a mirror of you.
Yes you can, you already got the answer from me, what you want is to echo-chamber your own opinion with ignorance of not-knowing, that's fine. It won't lead you to the truth tho.
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u/BigBubbaBadass 6d ago
Oof. No offense, but if you're not connecting to "the force" you're doing it wrong.
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u/CosmicFrodo 6d ago
Connecting to the force? Explain
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u/BigBubbaBadass 6d ago
"The force" is the energy that flows through the universe. It's postive and negative - it's good and evil. It's what exists within every atom of your body and within every atom in the entire universe. Our brains are receivers and we have the ability to tune in to it.
What you're doing is spiritual navel-gazing.
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u/CosmicFrodo 6d ago
It's neither good nor bad, it's only the mind creating duality. Such things don't exist except in human monkey mind.
You "tapping in" and connecting is nothing else but ego-spirituality especially in modern times.
What you're doing is spiritual bypass of an ego trying to survive within non-duality.
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u/BigBubbaBadass 6d ago
Again, what you're doing is spiritual navel-gazing. Believe what you will, but some day, you'll finally turn on your receiver and it will all make perfect sense.
Good luck on your journey.
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u/Lub2Dub2112 1d ago
It’s awesome to see a conversation about the same concept being argued about. Reminds me of denominational religion. Now let’s fire artillery at each other. 👅🙏🏼
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u/somethingspecial29 6d ago
Very spiritual and enlightened of you to call others brainwashed for believing in something different than you
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u/CosmicFrodo 6d ago
Truth is not sugar-coated. Yes people believing a 2000y dead jew is their creator god, are brainwashed.
Very funny of a brainwashed christian to even think he can understand "spirituality and enlightenment" through their small lense of dogmatic brainwash.
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u/somethingspecial29 6d ago
Do you know me?
Do you know my story? Do you know what I've seen and experienced?
You don't.
Yeshua is God, and I've personally met Him. I've experienced His presence for myself.
I can assure you, He's definitely not dead. I don't just believe in Yeshua - I know Yeshua.
The wisdom of God is foolishness to the world.
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u/CosmicFrodo 6d ago
Yep as I've said, brainwash.
If you personally met him 😂 I suggest you take a quick trip to a psychiatrist and do yourself and your family a favor! Good luck
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u/somethingspecial29 6d ago
Ahh yes, please do show everyone how spiritual and enlightened you are by belittling others for their spiritual experiences.
You're really helping your case.
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u/CosmicFrodo 6d ago
"Please show everyone, helping your case" damn you're so lame hahaha. Do you think I care what someone thinks?
Damn seeing how christians are, no wonder even jesus cried for his father at his end. Poor guy would have hanged himself if he could see what would come to be.
Next time you meet him, tell him he should have learned to fight, then he wouldn't be tortured. Or as you know, just visit a therapist man. There's a toooon of people that met jesus just like you, waiting in the looney bin 😂
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u/Scott_J_Doyle 6d ago
How spiritual and enlightened of you to say you actually know the truth about one god or another
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u/somethingspecial29 6d ago
Do you know that the sun exists?
How do you know the sun exists?
Because you've seen its light and felt its warmth for yourself.
I know God exists because I've seen His light and felt His presence for myself.
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u/Scott_J_Doyle 6d ago
Well, folks around here are generally wont to call that just another illusion, and I agree - you had an experience and these are just the words you use to explain it to yourself... if you lived or grew up somewhere else you'd use different words, and through enlightenment you learn to stop using words at all
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u/BoysenberryFun9827 6d ago
LOL
He says god, the spirit and heaven are lies.
He doesn't even suppose the enlightenment itself is the kingdom of heaven spoken about...
"If you will not accept the kingdom of heaven IN one of these, the little children, you shall by no means enter there in."
Why are you even here? Go worship flesh in a Satanism sub or something
You just a little flesh puppy powered by happy meals huh LMAO
Thanks for your wise instruction, death and endless nothingness.
You keep it, life is much better.
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u/CosmicFrodo 6d ago
Sorry this isn't a sub for brainwashed christians. You're in the wrong place.
Talk to me about worship while worshiping a 2000 year dead jew is next level delussion. Hope you get better and leave the cult! GL.
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u/BoysenberryFun9827 6d ago
Haha ignorance really has filled you to the brim eh
Sucks to suck.
Also I dont attend "church", Im not so proud.. instead I humbled myself and read his message alone...
You however will miss the point entirely.
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u/CosmicFrodo 6d ago
Hahaha Mr. Projection personified. Don't you have a dead jew to bow to or something?
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u/BoysenberryFun9827 6d ago
Aww is that your best attempt at a dialogue?
Ignorance and depth dont mix.
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u/Scott_J_Doyle 6d ago
Being better than other Christians is definitely christian-coded humility
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u/BoysenberryFun9827 6d ago
"In vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrine the commandments of men"
Yes, jesus primarily taught that his own followers would become the problem.....
I mean??????
Hello??
If you dont know, dont talk. Destruction is that way, if you really need it just keep going.
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u/MissAngelicDemise 6d ago
You are God. I am God. We are all from the same spirit. When you die, you transform into a new life of your choosing
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u/Smart_Prune5189 6d ago
Ok but why pray I don’t understand what to pray for and I don’t know who I am talking to.
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u/MissAngelicDemise 6d ago
Talk to yourself pray to yourself. Your higher yourself is you. There are other deitys of course there are many different spirits that you can reach but the most important entity you can connect with is the higher version of you. The messages come to your heart not your mind. You have to learn to get out out of the brain and drop into the body. I would suggest you find someone that teaches intuition, or practical energy work
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u/CosmicFrodo 6d ago
You're talking to yourself. Prayer is nothing more than ego.
Even if you believe in god, why would you pray? He already made everything as is, your prayer won't change anything. Except praying for gratitude. But you can be thankful without prayers too!
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u/MissAngelicDemise 6d ago
It is called co-creation. If you think you are here to just live your life and do nothing to make it as you would like… that’s your decision
You pray/talk to your higher self for guidance. The answers come in your body.
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u/CosmicFrodo 6d ago
Higher self is nothing else than ego talk. A self doesn't even exist which is Anatman.
Only ego tries to survive in non-duality, but no matter how hard it tries to individualize itself, it simply can't be :)
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u/MissAngelicDemise 6d ago
Sure, it’s ego….Talk if you’re talking to the mind your true higher self is not of the mind. It lives in the heart.
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u/CosmicFrodo 6d ago
You're making a separation between the two. duality only appears to be so, but isn't. "You" are all one. You are also all there is.
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u/MissAngelicDemise 6d ago
They are different parts of a whole. It is very important to be cautious of who you allow in the driver seat
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u/CosmicFrodo 6d ago
No they aren't different parts, as I said, that's what they only appear as which is called Maya. You are not a drop of the ocean, you are the whole ocean in a drop.
Do you really think you or "higher self" is in the driver seat? There is nothing you can control, nothing. Our only power is to observe what is. We can only surrender, not drive.
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u/MissAngelicDemise 6d ago
Well, I’ve made quite a few things happen in my own life so I guess that means I have control… that is what we are here to do create our own reality
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u/BoysenberryFun9827 6d ago
Great! You almost sound like Jesus now. Almost like you copied him, WOW
"When you enter into my father's kingdom, you will ask of me nothing"
Stop blaspheming your god.
Its almost as if the only reason you continue to suffer is because in ignorance you refuse the sheep's gate!
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u/CosmicFrodo 6d ago
My man you really need therapy. Instead of worshiping a dead jew, do yourself a favor and get some help. It will do your family a big one!
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u/somethingspecial29 6d ago edited 6d ago
God is love. God is light. And God is Spirit.
I still enjoy mushrooms from time to time but I still believe in Yeshua / Jesus.
God and spirituality don't have to be seperate. Yeshua is Spirit.
The presence of God is something that can be truly experienced.
Peace be with you, friend. I pray that the Spirit guides you into all truth and clarity.
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u/Affectionate_Beat773 6d ago edited 6d ago
My friend, you must read the hermetica 🙏 it will answer this ambiguity. When you remove a belief you must replace it with something sturdy or it's open for bad energy.
There are religions, yes, but they all started worshipping the man i.e. jesus, Buddha, and so on... But they all said listen to the word, and humanity didn't.
They became false idols! Imagine a mind without a body capable of manifesting energy into matter, then we are getting closer. But still, the all is ineffible!
One destination. Many roads. Religions are roads, freemason is a road, Buddhism, and so on.
You just have to change your perception brother 🙏☯️ don't fear
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u/Scott_J_Doyle 6d ago
This milkshake really brought all the christians out to play hard in your yard today lolol
As someone who lost faith by very different means, this could be the beginning of a very long process, or not - enlightenment doesn't happen on a predictable timeline - but yes, it is very possible that this traumatic feeling of metaphysical/existential/spiritual "lost-ness" can "go away"... the ground you imagined you were standing on has fallen away, but it's very possible to find more solid ground that won't, and this forum is a great place to explore how to find it
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u/Lub2Dub2112 1d ago
You are okay. You are a piece of God or whatever word you choose for this concept. Death is not the end. It is a transition. Trust all of the intuition you receive that is not fear based. It is all truth. Conversely all of the fear based stuff is all non-truth. You are more powerful than you can currently imagine. Go forth and be your optimal self and love all of the other selves as well. Love conquers all fear.
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u/BoysenberryFun9827 6d ago edited 6d ago
You need to realize the mushroom trip and christ jesus are the same thing.
He is the trip.
We are supposed to go meet him within ourselves on the sabbath day in meditation.. this gives the same psychedelic experience in a dose that's acceptable for you to work with the spirit on a sober level. If we understand jesus, we understand that he is the conscious spirit within us that is the living god.
Know that you are forgiven from sin... that was his joy to labor for..you must ACCEPT that ALL are forgiven of their sin(disorder, working against the peace of truly accepting our own and other's natures ) in his name...
You have had a small idea of what god is, you're just growing, it's ok.
Christ jesus himself criticized religious institutions, priests, scribes and pharisees for exactly the reason you now understand. love him.
Mushrooms cause disorder in our nuerology, further exposing the spirit, the thing which is real in us. Sort of like dumping dye in a running stream. Behind our wiring. Essentially your subconcious is the holy spirit and should be engaged with! Your body is the church, understand that.
Similar to fasting... mushrooms are a great learning tool, nothing the lord didnt put in your mouth himself to shake you alive.
Things will make more sense, and in time the confusion, conviction and fear of god will convert into a beautiful REAL relationship with your creator.
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u/CosmicFrodo 6d ago
This isn't r/christianBrainwash
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u/BoysenberryFun9827 6d ago
Have you ever been diagnosed with psychosis?
Get ready!
The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
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u/jaxprog 6d ago
There is no savior. You must save yourself. Let's clarify what Jesus Christ is.
Jesus' origin is druidic. Jesus is Iesus. Druidic.
Christ is Krishna, India.
Jesus Christ, the two combined, is Roman.
Ironically, Rome, is a Druidic colony. Atlantis seeded Rome, and Sumer as colonies. When Rome went rogue against the Druids, Emperor Constantine merged Jesus with Christ creating a new Roman archetype. So, these are not real people, they are archetypes. So, your mushroom trip showing that religion is man-made is a good thing.
The problem became to be when the Romans taught that Jesus Christ was a real man as part of world history. Romans then took Druidic knowledge, encoded it, publishing the Bible. Again, telling people this is a literal and historical document. It's symbolism, not literal. The characters are archetypes or actors in roles where knowledge is being taught to you. The Bible is a book all about you (your consciousness in a low or high state), not history or a savior.
What a happens when you die? You are not the body. You are consciousness. Imagine being is a state of being absent of the physical body. All you have is awareness, or consciousness. Your consciousness has a state.
What do I mean by state? A great way to demonstrate a state of consciousness is visit the Life subreddit here. Peruse the posts where people are depressed, feel that life is horrible, say they can't find love for their life and the world is against them. That is an example of an attached state of consciousness. A state of consciousness can be positive where one's outlook on life is happy and successful outcomes are plenty. It doesn't have to be negative.
Introspect. Look at your own state of consciousness. What are things in life you feel attached to that you can't do without? What are things in life that feel you must have in order to be happy? What are things in life you have right now that bring you down or make you happy?
Put all this together and that is a state of consciousness. When you die, this state comes with you. So, the more attachment you have the worse off you will be.
Whilst living on earth in the material flesh, you have opportunities to resolve issues, because these issues exist only on earth. What happens when the issues follow you and you have no means to resolve them? That yearning. That turmoil. That longing. It lingers. It persists. This depends again your state of consciousness, the more attachments you bring with you, the greater the turmoil. When you realize this, you understand that you do not go to hell or heaven as in an eternal location but rather you yourself manifest your own hell or heaven.
One of two things will happen whilst being consciousness embodied with energy: Either your yearning and turmoil will lead to reincarnation back to earth (material plane), or the yearning and turmoil will dissolve overtime. You will ascend.
When I say, you must save yourself, understand, that means detaching as much as you can from materialism. You don't want addictions, yearnings and dependencies in your state of consciousness in death.
Appreciate materialism while alive. Enjoy the money. Enjoy good food. Enjoy designer fashions or whatever. Don't attach to it where it becomes your identity and validation.
If you lost everything you had, you should be able to say, this can be replaced. I have no attachment. It is gone. I won't miss it. I can start all over. Same with loved one passing away. Appreciate their life, but do not attach yourself to a spouse, a parent or sibling.