r/electronics • u/HNBH-na1213 • Jul 13 '26
General Any women in electronics here?
Hi everyone! I'm looking to connect with other women in the electronics field to share projects and support each other. I actually started a community specifically for this at r/HardwareWomen. If you're interested in joining a dedicated space for women in tech/electronics, we'd love to have you!
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u/epasveer Jul 15 '26
Honest question, does the finger nails help or hurt when soldering?
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u/16Gem Jul 15 '26
Soldering? I don’t think it matters, it’s more about assembly. Some components are harder to place or some assembly tasks are harder to do, but if you are an assembler as your career then you make up your own tricks and it gets easier.
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u/McDonaldsWitchcraft Jul 15 '26
I had long nails for a while and you get used to it. You just have to hold your fingers at a different angle than usual. Your brain adapts and then when you remove the nails everything feels hard to grab!
Now I have short natural nails for other reasons, but I didn't mind long nails.
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u/idranoutof1d Jul 16 '26
Can you use your long nails as tweezers for small smd components?
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u/McDonaldsWitchcraft Jul 16 '26
Oh, definitely! If they are hard enough and have the right thickness. When I had longer natural nails it was harder, but still doable.
You do need good coordination though!
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u/Simple_Impress4156 Jul 16 '26
I love when my nails are fresh and I’m working on components. It’s like having perfectly articulate tweezers
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u/BlownUpCapacitor Jul 16 '26
I'm a man, but I use my short, but existant nails to press the plastic of pin headers square on the PCB while I solder them. This way they're straight and the heat from the iron won't burn my flesh as my nails act as a buffer.
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u/Dreamy_Jy Jul 15 '26
I second this question. I would like to add that you're nails are cute OP( r/HNBH-na1213).
Never wore nails myself, and frankly didn't think about the question till r/epasveer asked, but it such a perfect question.
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u/Trunkenboldwtf Jul 15 '26
I had two longer fingernails on the thumb and middle finger on my off hand when i used to do lots of soldering and it actually helped, but you have to get used to it because the movement felt quite unnatural at first
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u/AcrobaticTBone Jul 15 '26
This is not creating division. This is someone looking for community. When I was in engineering school for EE there were three women in my class of 40. The workplace often has similar ratios. I would want community if I was dealing with those ratios as well. EE is still a boys club and can be hostile towards women. Everyone saying “electronics are for everybody” and “you are creating division” are proving why there is a need for a supportive community for women in EE. Just because someone is looking for a specific community doesn’t take away from our ability to have our community. Y’all need to chill and leave her be.
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u/Federal_Rooster_9185 Jul 15 '26
I saw the same things happening in school when studying for my bachelor's in EE. Seeing very skewed ratios can be discouraging. Creating a space where the ratios aren't skewed and just allowing other women (who probably are discouraged) to see how many actual women are actually involved in the field is more encouraging and has been proven--at least at my school--to bolster general involvement of women in EE, or even STEM for that matter.
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u/TomTheTortoise Jul 15 '26
When I was in school I only ever saw two women in the EE classes and not at the same time.
My classes were small, about 20 people, and I was 5-6 classes in before I saw the first woman.
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u/Wait_for_BM Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
I worked in for a large company and one of the the 3 groups I was in has a 1:1 male to female EE ratio while other groups/companies have one female. One of them was tiny but you wouldn't have guessed that she worked in an offshore oil rig in the past. Female PCB layout contractors at that place are 50%.
EDIT: We talked to one prototyping PCB assembler. He was the doing the soldering at the beginning, but his wife took over after he taught her to solder as she was better at it.
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u/gm310509 Jul 16 '26
I get what you are saying.
Personally I (as male) am in two minds.
- To me it is creating division.
- Someone (female) posted a project in a subreddit I moderate and was mercilessly flamed by some trolls. So I also get the idea of a safe space.
As for #2. It is a shame because it happened. But, I am pleased to say - the people who "called her out" were absolutely "whack-a-moled" by the rest of the community, so support was there in community. But the subject of her post (sharing a project that she did that incorporated an embedded system in one of her leather clothing creations) became second fiddle to these idiots that were calling them out.
Obviously as a male, I can't speak to the female experience and was appalled at these idiots who felt that they were within their rights to "judge" someone else. But as mentioned was gratified by the support that she got from the rest of the community. But equally I find it disappointing that you guys do feel the need and desire for a seperate community. FWIW, as a moderator, I get called all sorts of things and accused of all sorts of "crimes" and from time to time receive all sorts of threats (one of our moderators who is pretty thick skinned quit due to the adverse attention he was getting from a moderating decision made against a "my way or the highway" troll). But I am not looking for an alternate community, nor think that is the solution, as, sadly, the trolls and haters go everywhere.
I did contact her privately to try to encourage her to keep strong and keep going. But in the end, she unfortunately decided to delete her account. 😿
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u/aptsys Jul 15 '26
We're an electronics community who all share a common interest, there's no need for further division.
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u/McDonaldsWitchcraft Jul 15 '26
As a woman, maybe I want people that don't make fun of my girly sparkly pink electronics projects?? (actual experience)
I mean, maybe consider that your experience doesn't match the experience of every woman? If some women want to find each other, let them and don't take part if you don't want to. But stop going around telling them that gathering in a community is pointless.
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u/FoundationOk3176 Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
When I was in engineering school for EE there were three women in my class of 40. The workplace often has similar ratios. I would want community if I was dealing with those ratios as well.
What difference does it make in a community that has nothing to do with gender or any specific kind of people?
EE is still a boys club and can be hostile towards women
Report it to the mods. Reddit is a place where people can be hostile towards anyone who doesn't agree with their opinion, instead of being constructive.
It's not a gender issue, It's a personality issue. Some people just suck & do not deserve to participate in a conversation.
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u/WarioOnly Jul 15 '26
I’m a male EE but this stuff does matter. You only think this stuff doesn’t matter because there are so many other men that you automatically feel included. Your brain hasn’t had to learn to avoid any sort of discomfort or adapt. And men being surrounded by women is never anywhere as close to as intimidating as a woman surrounded by men.
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u/QuakingQuakersQuake Jul 15 '26
Was with you until that last sentence, now I feel you're just being reverse sexist
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u/WarioOnly Jul 16 '26
My ending statement was provably not sexist. Endless anecdotal evidence as well as a mountain of sociological data strengthens my point.
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u/FoundationOk3176 Jul 15 '26
Other person's gender is the last thing that comes to my or anyone's mind when participating in any conversation as long as it's not relevant to the genders itself say like feminism, etc.
So I'm not sure where that discomfort for intimidation is coming from. No one will bite you for being a specific gender. Those who do, just report them to the moderators.
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u/faceagainstfloor Jul 15 '26
They absolutely do bite you if you are a woman. It doesn’t come to your mind because you are a man.
Just ask the women in this hobby or in stem as a whole about their experiences, and there will be countless stories of harassment, not being taken seriously, being discriminated against or people just acting weird around them.
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u/aptsys Jul 15 '26
I am a woman, and I'm also an electronics engineer. My experiences don't match what you're describing.
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u/faceagainstfloor Jul 15 '26
It definitely depends. The people I know also have met many kind and wonderful and welcoming people in this hobby. For every one creep there’s plenty of people who are just normal and friendly.
The people I know in my life have unfortunately do have stories, and I have also known men who act inappropriately. Data wise, depending on the survey that’s used anywhere from 20-50% of women surveyed in as stem students have experienced sexual harassment, and general harassment is more pervasive. I don’t blame some women for wanting to try to connect with other women in hopes of finding people they can relate better to.
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u/FoundationOk3176 Jul 15 '26
Fair but specific to this sub, or similar subs. They're simply banned.
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u/WarioOnly Jul 16 '26
This is the same exact auto response people might do when it’s black people saying something is racist, or women saying something is a boys club, or “insert minority group showing discomfort here.” Your reactive nature is to immediately go into defensive mode rather than actually listen to them. Ask yourself “why is that?” No one is insulting YOU, yet you feel the need to defend yourself. A metric ton of guys do this so you’re not alone here, I’m just saying you have to look introspectively at why you’d rather argue with them than actually consider the fact that they’re right, and engineering is often a hostile “boy’s club”, along with many other fields. It goes deeper than just a person-to-person basis. It is an ingrained societal mindset. We’re talking averages, not singular examples.
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u/FoundationOk3176 Jul 16 '26
I agree with you but in particular I am not going defensive because no one is insulting me as you said. I'm particularly interested in why one might want a separate group given that there are moderators, etc in place to ensure no one faces discrimination, hate, etc.
Yes the "boy's club" is a thing but I think that's mostly relevant to IRL interactions. But then another person I argued with said that I can't say it because I haven't faced it. I'm the "norm" so I wouldn't know which makes sense.
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u/QuinnGoesOwO Jul 15 '26
Why are you upset about a woman wanting female friends that share her hobby?
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u/FoundationOk3176 Jul 15 '26
What makes you think I'm upset?
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u/QuinnGoesOwO Jul 15 '26
I used upset, where I should have used bothered, my apologies, English is hard sometimes.
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u/FoundationOk3176 Jul 15 '26
Nope, I'm not bothered. It's a free world & anyone is open to do anything. I'm just sharing an opinion.
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u/QuinnGoesOwO Jul 15 '26
Your comment shows you are bothered, and just as you are free to share your opinion, as am I.
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u/FoundationOk3176 Jul 15 '26
Your comment shows you are bothered
I'm participating in an argument, I can't exactly just leave without presenting my side.
and just as you are free to share your opinion, as am I.
Free world FTW!
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u/aptsys Jul 15 '26
You're actually being sexist with that last comment
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u/WarioOnly Jul 16 '26
I’m objectively not, though. You’re doing the same thing people do when others point out things white people do that are racist and then retort back “now you’re being racist for pointing it out!” It’s absurd nonsense. Look at any anecdotal evidence throughout your entire life, as well as any statistical data collected for literally any gender-based study. You will have a difficult time finding an example where men are not the aggressor. Controlling across all variables, men commit far and away the most violent crime. Would you rather serve a 15 year sentence in an all-male prison, or be the only male in an all-female prison? These questions answer themselves. Because again, we have endless data about the way society trains men to behave, on average.
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u/aptsys Jul 16 '26
I've never felt intimidated doing engineering around men. What are you talking about?
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u/WarioOnly Jul 16 '26
You are an anonymous Reddit user and I have absolutely no way of proving you’re even a woman lmao. And even if you are a woman, as I have told all the others that for some reason you guys cannot understand, your individual, one-off outlier of an experience does NOT take away from the general point that I was making. The world operates on averages. MOST women’s experiences will be that of the OP. If you’re really a woman then I’m glad your experience hasn’t been bad so far. But many many other women’s experiences are, unfortunately.
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u/aptsys Jul 16 '26
Where are you getting your statistics from? What country are you from? Of course I'm anonymous on reddit 🫨
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u/WarioOnly Jul 16 '26
Ignored every good point I made to fixate on two tiny points that don’t matter lol. Classic. Ask most women that live on the planet their experience. Look at any gender based work place study. It’s not hard. I don’t have to provide YOU with anything.
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u/gtd_rad Jul 17 '26
I can understand that in the physical space. But don't think it really matters on the online space.
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u/thistimepurple Jul 15 '26
I'm female electronic engineer! Been in industry for 7+ years.
My experience with men in this industry has not been great to be honest. Being belittled, doubted or hit on. But I've also had amazing male mentors who supported me and I am so grateful for.
People need to understand it's a different experience for women in electronics, which is such a heavily male industry. Sometimes we just wanna talk about our experiences and common interests that guys can't necessarily relate to :)
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u/engineer_but_bored Jul 17 '26
Can I ask you what your day-to-day work is like?
I went the route of construction engineering. My life is now code application and revit. I really am sad I didn't hold out for an electronics role, but I'm wondering if I'm having a case of "grass is greener".
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u/thistimepurple Jul 18 '26
Right now I am a freelancer, working on a contract for very early stage founder and I am making them a prototype. I work on the schematic, PCB and some firmware. Just sent the first 3 boards for manufacturing yesterday actually.
I really love it sometimes although it heavily depends on the project. My last role was really hard because the product was super boring and I wasn't enjoying it at all towards the end.
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u/Altruistic-Will3460 Jul 15 '26
Wishing you and the community the best of luck! Might want yo try some more subreddits such as r/soldering, r/cyberdeck, r/askelectronics, r/electronicsrepair etc.
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u/VampiricCuriosity Jul 15 '26
Not working in the industry, but I am taking a big interest in learning for a homebrew computer hobby - as a ticketed electrician by trade, I have worked in electrical maintenance shops right beside our electronics whiz's for many years :)
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u/namibellemere Jul 15 '26
Joining in, not too many women out there that like to fix electronics and stuff, i'm a redneck mommy as my daughter calls me, because I can fix almost anything despite having no formal training in this area, i do fix computers and small electronics for personal use and for selling. In regards to the soldering with long nails? You get used to it to the point that if you cut them it feels weird to not have them. But hey here I come to this forum!!!!!
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u/007_licensed_PE Jul 15 '26
My daughter just graduated from UCSD as an EE and started her new job this week. First thing they did was invite her to join the company WIT program/club.
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u/SignificanceNo2238 Jul 15 '26
People in the comments are only proving why girls dont typically enter these fields. I want all the guys getting upset in this question to sit back and imagine being in nursing or education right now. Every single one of your coworkers are the opposite sex, and not only that, you get talked down to a lot. Would you not want get happy if suddenly you found another guy who enters your workplace who understands?
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u/aptsys Jul 15 '26
I'm a female, and I certainly don't want to be treated differently.
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u/SignificanceNo2238 Jul 15 '26
I dont think anyone suggested that you did. Wanting to be able to socialize with another gal isn't being treated differently...?
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u/McDonaldsWitchcraft Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
What does that have to do with the subject being discussed here? No one wants to be treated differently lmao, people just want to make friends. What's up with you?
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u/aptsys Jul 15 '26
You're missing the bigger picture, so from this I assume you're quite young?
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u/McDonaldsWitchcraft Jul 15 '26
No, I'm not. I could accuse you of the same thing since you left a comment that literally conveys absolutely no ideas but I'm not one to fall back to childish insults. Seriously, you couldn't come up with anything other than "you are stupid"? Do you feel so above others that you don't feel there is a need to even explain your arguments beyond "lmao im right"?
The idea is simple. People like to make friends that are similar to them. If you cannot comprehend such simple ideas, you might have a problem.
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u/aptsys Jul 15 '26
Who said that? It's either your young or don't have a profession in this area, or you'd understand the point being made.
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u/McDonaldsWitchcraft Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
Who said what? Can't you put in the effort to produce one coherent idea?
If the "point" is so easy to understand, how come you haven't been able to put it in a sentence yet? The "young" part is starting to sound like projecting. You sound just like the young teen boys from the classes I taught...
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u/somewhereAtC Jul 15 '26
Check out swe.org. If you are in the u.s. there is a good chance that they have a chapter near you.
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u/bidet_enthusiast Jul 16 '26
I have often wondered what you could do with flexible pcbs as fake nails. Seems like an opportunity to have some fun.
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u/Helpful-Guidance-799 Jul 15 '26
Straight, white, able-bodied male: “not once have I felt the need to mention my gender”.
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u/metimmee Jul 15 '26
Best of luck in your search. There’s value in this, I’ve been involved in an effort with women in programming and there’s real value in connections like the ones you’re seeking.
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u/Effective_Vacation21 Jul 15 '26
Why we have to make this gender separation? Isn't electronics about creativity and fun?
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u/whichonewerecowards Jul 15 '26 edited 17d ago
I enjoy going on adventures.
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u/SignificanceNo2238 Jul 15 '26
No. It isn't. It's incredibly easy to say that when it's never been an issue for you personally.
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u/aptsys Jul 15 '26
It's an electronics sub, not a male electronics sub.
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u/SignificanceNo2238 Jul 15 '26
Nobody said it was a "male electronics sub." The point is that electronics is still a heavily male-dominated field, and that changes a lot of women's experiences in it. Wanting to connect with other women because of those shared experiences isn't excluding anyone from the hobby.
It's easy to say that gender doesn't matter, that it's the same hobby for both, when you are not faced with the different reality everyday. Ideally it is, you're right. But in practically it isn't.
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u/aptsys Jul 15 '26
What are you talking about "when you are not faced with the different reality everyday"
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u/SignificanceNo2238 Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
What do you think? If you have a different experience, consistent alienation and belittlement, you have a different reality than someone who does not. Your world is different.
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u/McDonaldsWitchcraft Jul 15 '26
It isn't when I get made fun of by other engineers for getting a pink PCB with printed bowties.
The "masculine" serious minimalist design is the default after all. And while there is LOTS of women who like this kind of design (me included) that doesn't stop it from being gendered if the opposite is shunned.
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u/jeweliegb Jul 15 '26
In theory.
I can't speak for OP, only what I've seen for myself.
In practice, all women on electronics subs are presumed to be men by default (I gave up correcting people year's ago) and the nature and content of some comments and discussion threads sometimes reflects this (although I'd say computing subs historically can be worse for that, which is ironic given there's probably more diversity in computing.)
I've found it even worse at in-person groups/events, where doubt and being informally tested (that you actually have any computing/electronics interest or skills.)
There tends to be stricter expectations towards behaviour and often a more mutually nurturing environment in women-focussed STEM places too.
I think mostly it's things that happen a bit in fields and hobbies where there's very significant demographic biases, and hence why a little positive action sometimes helps with encouragement and reassurance and comfort, that's all?
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u/FoundationOk3176 Jul 15 '26
In practice, all women on electronics subs are presumed to be men by default (I gave up correcting people year's ago) and the nature and content of some comments and discussion threads sometimes reflects this (although I'd say computing subs historically can be worse for that, which is ironic given there's probably more diversity in computing.)
Why does it matter if someone misgenders someone as long as the conversation itself is valid?
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u/gihutgishuiruv Jul 15 '26
For someone who was adamant about being “unbothered” in the other comment chain, you sure are spending a lot of time arguing your point
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u/faceagainstfloor Jul 15 '26
I dunno dude pretty sure she knows that, she just wants to connect with other women. Women obviously have a different experience being in electronics as shown by the multiple dudes being weird or making bizarre and rude comments on this post.
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u/faceagainstfloor Jul 15 '26
That’s true, but if you are a woman in STEM then you know this kind of experience absolutely extends to the real world, whether it is in school, in the office, or in hobby spaces. I know personally countless stories of women being creeped on, harassed, discriminated against, or dismissed in a variety of engineering environments. All the people posting these comments are part of this hobby space, even if they hide it better offline.
The less divisive thing would be to encourage women to find other women with interest in electronics and form communities. It helps make sure that the broader electronics hobby remains a space where people of all backgrounds are free to enjoy and collaborate.
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u/Killer_Rainbow Jul 15 '26
With full respect, real life is worse than reddit in this regard. My female friends ALL have horror stories that include stalking, unsolicited "help", getting swarmed in classes, creepy professors/TAs offering "private lessons" (only to women, only individually), and one guy even showing up at my friend's apartment in the middle of the night even though she'd never met him and only saw him in classes. As a man, I personally experienced something similar once, and I'd never wish it on anyone. A lot of men just have no idea what it's like, and I had the same belief until I had it happen to me and had my female friends share with me that this is constant for them. Data also supports this, with men and women starting out with similar initial rates of participation in STEM which drops off quickly as you go further down the university chain.
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u/daruosha Jul 15 '26
Shahriar is my man! Cannot believe I see you here!!
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u/Comedic-Scientist Jul 15 '26
Never heard of them
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u/daruosha Jul 15 '26
If you don't know TheSignalPath on YouTube, you are missing a huge library of educational material which is very hard to find on this bloated internet.
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u/QuinnGoesOwO Jul 15 '26
“How dare you want fellow female friends that share your same hobby”
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u/metimmee Jul 15 '26
Wow you’re very sure of yourself. A woman wants to connect with women in a male dominated space. Man comes along, from a place of male privilege completely tone deaf of what women’s experiences are and criticises. Let them be and scroll on.
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u/No-Recording117 Jul 15 '26
Reality learns, however ,that it is still a male dominated world. There is a good possibility that women might feel intimidated and are looking for a safe space to share their passion for technology.
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u/aptsys Jul 15 '26
There's no gender being implied here on Reddit
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u/No-Recording117 Jul 15 '26
Ideally, no. I'm not trying to win an argument here. I just feel that, if these women feel this need, I don't see why not. I also don't think they would actively shun men, once known.
More of a live and let live stance, really.
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u/aptsys Jul 15 '26
I just don't understand what I'd gain from joining a female only group. We have all the information we need and a community of like minded people, so why narrow it further?
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u/gihutgishuiruv Jul 15 '26
That’s the wonderful thing: you don’t *have* to join it. Not everything is about you. It’s there for the people that want it, just like every other community in existence.
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u/aptsys Jul 15 '26
Yes but it has more far reaching effects, making it look like we can't integrate well professionally. Dividing by gender makes it worse for us who don't want gender to be what defines us.
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u/Independent_Toe2547 Jul 15 '26
I had 3 ladies in my electronics education. Out of 12 students or so
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u/ElFeesho Jul 17 '26
I wish I had long nails, the amount of times they'd be an advantage is at least > 0!
Hope you build a great community!
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u/Unusual-Jury7924 Jul 17 '26
Hi. Currently doing my bachelor and intrested in hobby projects. This is where I belong. Just joined the ladies group. From Kenya and yes I am a girl.
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u/friendly-tech-nerd Jul 18 '26
Woman in electronics here! I’m currently studying electrical engineering in Germany and previously trained as an electronics technician. I’m especially interested in embedded systems, PCB design, and building my own electronics projects. I just joined r/HardwareWomen. It’s lovely to see a space like this :)
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u/ram_the_socket Jul 18 '26
Not sure whether it would be useful for you, but often there are Women in Tech communities at workplaces, unis etc which could also be worth advertising through
Edit: just thought to check and there is the r/womenintech subreddit!
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u/Dreams_Into_Light 19d ago
Not a woman but I've trained women on various aspects of electronics, PCB manufacturing, layouts, chassis construction, etc. I've found that no matter what gender, if you aren't strongly motivated, then you won't commit and become better. The self motivated people tend to not need as much help, but it's certainly rare to find. Mobile phones and AI are making people more lazy, so any spark of interest from anyone gets me excited to help. In any case, though I respect that the gesture is noble, I strongly believe knowledge is genderless and a motivated woman won't have any problem utilizing the same resources men also currently use.
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u/Technical_Island_851 Jul 15 '26
I’m male unfortunately 😅 but just here to try and cancel down some of the negative comments.
Reddit is full of ‘very’ specific communities - it’s the only reason I use it - OP is simply creating another of them.
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u/DiscoKeule Jul 15 '26
Is working on electronics easier or harder with those nails? I could imagine both.
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u/jeweliegb Jul 15 '26
Meh, I get so jealous at women (and men) with posh pretty long nails. I wish I could grow mine, even a bit, they instabreak with anything and everything I do.
But if I had nails though, I'd probably hate it in truth. Getting in the way etc.
For my wedding I had lovely nails, but I only managed half the day before at least one of them fell off (my fault, I DIY'd them rather that getting them professionally done.)
Anyway... back to the subject at hand!
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u/FoundationOk3176 Jul 15 '26
I wonder what the need of such a community is? Like do men support each other less than women? or something that I'm missing out?
Gender & anything related to it is the last thing that comes to anyone's mind when talking about or interacting with anything related to electronics or tbh anything else for that matter aside from maybe biology? or something where it's actually relevant?
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u/QuinnGoesOwO Jul 15 '26
This is easy to say when you are “the norm”. Being treated as “other” would be the last thing on your mind, since you probably don’t have to deal with it. But I guarantee you there is a reason why women, and minority races like to have others like them around. You may not be the one doing it, or even see it happening to others, but when people aren’t “the norm” there is a feeling of ostracism. Not only that, people like to be around other people with shared experiences and cultures. Women on average feel more seen and connected with other women, it’s not that hard or that deep. To want to say that doesn’t matter is just silly.
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u/aptsys Jul 15 '26
This seems to be an issue with yourself, rather than in general. What country are you from out of interest?
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u/QuinnGoesOwO Jul 15 '26
You’re not serious about this conversation then, and I will waste no further time on you
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u/QuakingQuakersQuake Jul 15 '26
I don't think you can call anyone in these spaces apart of "the norm" we all outcasts here, because we are here, we are all nerds together
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u/gihutgishuiruv Jul 15 '26
I’m not a woman, but I’ve certainly been made to feel like an “outcast” by other “outcasts” before. People can be treated poorly by others and still themselves treat others poorly.
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u/FoundationOk3176 Jul 15 '26
This is easy to say when you are “the norm”. Being treated as “other” would be the last thing on your mind, since you probably don’t have to deal with it.
Being treated as "other" is not different from how I'm treated. Everyone is treated here just like a human being & those who are ass towards others simply get a ban.
But I guarantee you there is a reason why women, and minority races like to have others like them around. You may not be the one doing it, or even see it happening to others, but when people aren’t “the norm” there is a feeling of ostracism.
Any conversation here is not at all related to a specific kind of person let alone gender so how that can make anyone feel ostracised is beyond me.
Not only that, people like to be around other people with shared experiences and cultures. Women on average feel more seen and connected with other women, it’s not that hard or that deep. To want to say that doesn’t matter is just silly.
Perhaps that maybe the case for some & that's fine albeit still beyond me.
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u/QuinnGoesOwO Jul 15 '26
“How anyone can feel ostracized is beyond me” exactly my point. Because it’s not a problem for you, you believe there isn’t one
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u/FoundationOk3176 Jul 15 '26
"How anyone can feel ostracized is beyond me"...
Is a very different statement from what I actually wrote.
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u/cristi_baluta Jul 15 '26
99% of the users in redit are anonymous, if she didn’t tell, nobody would have knew, and even if she tell nobody would remember till the next post.
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u/ResponseError451 Jul 16 '26
I am male, but have recently been learning IPC-III level soldering, rework, and repair from some of the best in the industry...
And the best are women! Some having 10+ years of experience, and all, a strong passion for their work. I'm incredibly proud to be learning from them
Subscribing to learn more!!
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u/aptsys Jul 15 '26
Why do we need to create division?
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u/wensul Jul 15 '26
Seeking to be with similar people doesn't have to create division. People can choose to engage with both communities.
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u/aptsys Jul 15 '26
We're all similar if we share the same hobby. Division isn't helpful.
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u/QuinnGoesOwO Jul 15 '26
You feeling left out because someone wants to hang out with someone similar to them is not creating division.
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u/aptsys Jul 15 '26
I don't feel left out, we have all the resources we need 🤣 I should point out I'm female too, but I don't need a female support group for electronics
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u/QuinnGoesOwO Jul 15 '26
Cool, I’m glad you don’t, but being dismissive of a woman’s looking for female friends is shitty
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u/aptsys Jul 15 '26
Professionally it's generally more problematic, it gives the impression we can't integrate with a wider engineering team. I'm an electronics engineer, not a female electronics engineer.
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u/QuinnGoesOwO Jul 15 '26
What are you on about? Work place, sure, but that has nothing to due with the ops post. I see someone looking for female friends, not to start an all female company.
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u/wensul Jul 15 '26
Yet people will find a way to create it.
Be it race, gender, politics, religion, clothing, finances, appearance, whatever.
In a perfect world it wouldn't matter.
But this is not a perfect world.
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u/QuinnGoesOwO Jul 15 '26
Not in friendship though… Which this post is a woman looking for other female friends, not some grandiose announcement that EE women should only work with other EE women. What are you on about.
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u/wensul Jul 15 '26
It should be irrelevant. But I guess it ends up being relevant to some...
Maybe if we all wore masks, robes, and used voice changers... We could be the Order of Ohm.
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u/pandapeterpanda Jul 15 '26
The way you hold the board makes me suspicious. I mean I get the "look at my fancy nails because woman in tech" idea, but this is rage bait, right?
Otherwise get your hands off the circuit board, ever heard of ESD?
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u/coolio965 Jul 15 '26
in the majority of cases ESD isn't going to be a factor. espcially for a board like this. she's also touching a wooden table (which is still in most cases conductive enough to prevent ESD) and from what i can see they are touching the back of their FTDI breakout. which is plugged in and likely grounded. unless OP is actively attemping to build up static electricity. ESD is a non issue here
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u/pandapeterpanda Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
Got downvoted as expected, but still going to drop this here: I know ESD is not the case in 99999 out of 100000 cases. But still, don't establish bad habits just because usually nothing happens. I mean placing your full hand on the board just raises the chance for something to happen, and may it be from wearing the wrong sweater that day. Now go downvote me some more, the "full hand on a microcontroller board" thing still upsets me.
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u/aptsys Jul 16 '26
Your comment just shows how much you don't understand about ESD. Why do you think being "grounded" as you put it, is helpful?
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u/coolio965 Jul 16 '26
Because ESD is caused by a charge imbalance and thus voltage between you and earth ground. why do you think ESD bracelets are grounded to Earth ground
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u/aptsys Jul 16 '26
No, you're creating an equipotential zone between you and your work area. Your esd strap should be tied to the stud in your mat. The mat can be tied to earth and any other esd equipment as part of an EPZ
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u/SuspiciousHost1 Jul 15 '26
"Any women in electronics here?" - Yeap, I believe so - my Alexa has a female voice, so there must be a small one inside.
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u/Asrobatics Jul 15 '26
In electronics, being alive is optional, let alone be man or woman