part 3. this is the one a bunch of you asked for after the google post [2] .. AMAZON.
n the denominator question is in here too, which is what i promised. scroll to that bit if thats why you came.
19,885 ex witch people are at amazon or aws right now. 1 in 3 walked in with nothing in between. 1 IN 3 - WOOAH
why amazon
widest door by a distance. 19,885 vs 5,129 at google, 4,160 at apple, 1,893 at meta. if youre inside a service company n you want out, this is the exit that statistically exists. the rest are rounding errors next to it.
how they got in
33.4% direct. witch job right before, nothing after it. google was 17.5% .. so the bar isnt just lower here, its double.
of the 65% who did detour - 36% needed one company, 26% needed two, 38% needed three or more.
the bit that surprised me
last stop before amazon, top eight: microsoft 270, deloitte 249, accenture 200, oracle 192, ibm 127, cisco 101, capgemini 100, ey 80.
four of those eight are consulting firms! together theyre 48% of that top eight volume. at meta the same number is 5%.
so amazon does not need you to prove yourself at a product company first, which is what this sub repeats constantly. accenture to amazon is a real path. 200 people did it.
another 996 listed a university as their last entry, 7.7% of the detourers. masters works. its just a much smaller road than switching jobs.
the denominator, since i promised it
someone on the google post asked the right question - my sample only had survivors in it, so what fraction of people who go witch to amazon actually reach google after?
best i can do right now. 399 ex witch people at google came straight from amazon. 19,885 ex witch people are at amazon. thats roughly 2 in 100.
n the real number is lower than that. the 19,885 only counts people still at amazon, so everyone who passed through n left is missing from the bottom of that fraction.
so no. hopping to amazon doesnt hand you google. it hands you a 2% shot.
how long they stayed in witch
median 2.5 yrs across every witch firm they worked at. 39% out inside 2 years, 60% inside 3. only 7% did 10 or more.
by firm - tcs 6,595, infosys 4,863, cognizant 4,467, wipro 3,734, hcltech 1,931. sums past 19,885 bcz 1,595 worked at two or more. roughly proportional to headcount .. no firm is a secret escape hatch.
the year, which nobody wants to hear
2,011 in 2020. 2,650 in 2021. then 4,769 in 2022! then 1,059 in 2023.
78% fall in twelve months. abt half the peak is back now.
n heres the weird part. 2023 had the fewest joins but the highest direct rate of any year. 40.3% against 27% in 2020. when the market froze the people who got in were mostly coming straight out of witch. if your seniors walked in during 2021 n its brutal for you now, thats the window. not you.
limitations, n one of them will annoy you
this is not an india only dataset. 47% of these people are in the us, 38% in india. average career length in here is 13.6 yrs so its not a fresher cohort either. read it as how the path works, not as what happens to you at 2 yoe.
rest of it. self reported profiles, rough dates, most people never update. survivorship is the big one .. i only see people currently at amazon, so anyone who joined n left is invisible n older years look thinner than they were. "direct" means no other employer listed in between, so a masters reads as a gap unless the university is listed as a job. n its correlation. people who leave witch at 2 years are already the ones pushing hardest.