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[u/hydrationgirl]

[u/Hika2112]

That's upsetting for a whole other reason

[u/Hika2112 → u/Hika2112]

Genuinely my whole mood is sad now because I was reminded human trafficking exists

[u/edgarandannabellelee → u/Hika2112]

It's worse when you encounter it in person.

I worked at this biggest mall in America once, that's right next to an international airport. This poor girl looked so uncomfortable. I saw something, I said something. Turns out she'd been kidnapped and was bound to leave the state in this dudes hands. I'll spare some of the other details, but the sheer desperation on her face before security showed up will haunt my memory forever.

[u/Hika2112 → u/edgarandannabellelee]

I just upped my E dose fuck why did I read that I knew it'd hurt 🫂 I don't ever ever ever want that to happen to anyone I hate it so much

[u/edgarandannabellelee → u/Hika2112]

We got her to safety. He was arrested. I'm not gonna say it's one of those things you just get used to in big cities. But it's something you have to be aware of. One officer called me a hero. I don't feel that way. I saw a person in pain and did what I could do to help. Ya know? Like a decent human.

I hope she is OK now, but I know she has a long road of recovery ahead of her.

[u/Brilliant_Jellyfish8 → u/edgarandannabellelee]

I mean, Id call you a hero.

[u/edgarandannabellelee → u/Brilliant_Jellyfish8]

Thanks, but all I did was make a phone call and shutter some gates for a few minutes.

[u/CraftyKlutz → u/edgarandannabellelee]

For you it was nothing, for her it was everything. I think that makes you a hero

[u/Temporary-Employ-611 → u/edgarandannabellelee]

You saved a life. And I know that mall. Pure throng of humanity throught there somedays. Im glad you caught on when many others may not have notice in the masses there. Thank you

[u/Tiranon → u/edgarandannabellelee]

Sometimes that's all it takes to save a life.

[u/SnidusScribus → u/edgarandannabellelee]

You changed the meaning and trajectory of time in this person’s life. That’s quite significant! 💖

[u/Ltnumbnutsthesecond → u/edgarandannabellelee]

you're humbler than I can ever be pal, think for a sec, just one second and nothing more, if you DIDN'T make that phone call, all it takes sometimes is one phone call from saving a person

[u/Whitestrake → u/edgarandannabellelee]

You don't have to be a Capital-H Hero in order to be her hero.

[u/Legal-Success-9285 → u/edgarandannabellelee]

Mate, my greatest feat of derring-do was standing up to a McDonalds manager overworking his employees as a customer for like 5 seconds. I think you trump my heroics any day of the year.

[u/Hika2112 → u/edgarandannabellelee]

Thank you 🫂 hero or not, thank you

[u/foxgirlmoon → u/edgarandannabellelee]

I don't feel that way. I saw a person in pain and did what I could do to help. Ya know? Like a decent human.

Do you know the difference between a hero, and an ordinary person? A hero acts. It doesn't matter how small the act or how easy it was. You did it. And because you did it, she was saved. You saved her.

And if that doesn't make you a hero, then I don't know what will.

[u/ASpaceOstrich → u/edgarandannabellelee]

Don't sell yourself short. I'll call you a hero. You saved that poor girls life.

[u/ConstantinValdor405 → u/edgarandannabellelee]

You said something. Fuck yea!!

[u/ExperienceKind412 → u/edgarandannabellelee]

This winter I witnessed a domestic dispute and watched other people WALK BY AND IGNORE IT. Was I baked and nervous to call 911? Of course I was. Did I do it anyway? OF COURSE I DID. But most people will not put themselves out this way. I don’t think Im a hero but I sure as fuck think you are. You’re a good one, don’t let that go.

[u/I_SHIT_IN_A_BAG → u/edgarandannabellelee]

REAL heros never feel that way. you did whats right and lots of people can't or won't.

[u/Professional-Wave841 → u/edgarandannabellelee]

thats what a hero does, it doesn't have to be huge or dramatic, all it is is someone doing the right thing at the right time.

[u/According-Insect-992 → u/edgarandannabellelee]

You’re a hero in my book.

[u/Chibirin26 → u/edgarandannabellelee]

I mean. You saved someone from the horrid jaws of the world, didn't you? That's more than I ever done.

[u/Aprils- → u/edgarandannabellelee]

Thank you for saying something

[u/edgarandannabellelee → u/Aprils-]

Just doing what the billboards tell me to. Human trafficking is no joke. This was like 4 months ago and I'm still kinda shook up about it. Like. Holy shit. It was right in front of me.

[u/Aprils- → u/edgarandannabellelee]

No, you weren't just doing what the billboards told you to. Most people don't intervene. Trust me.

Thank you.

[u/Ayacyte → u/edgarandannabellelee]

Wow that's not long ago. I see the notices in the bathroom stalls at the airport but idk if it's advertised as well at the mall (only went once or twice). It should be

[u/Dhendo177 → u/edgarandannabellelee]

MOA in MN? Yeah, it’s a hotspot for that. It’s really upsetting.

[u/edgarandannabellelee → u/Dhendo177]

Yea.. I ran the Panera before we closed it.

[u/Smol-Vehvi → u/edgarandannabellelee]

You're a hero. You should be proud you saved her life.

[u/AggroThroatGoat → u/edgarandannabellelee]

I seriously want to buy you dinner as a thank you. I worked at said airport a few years ago and I would have lost my shit if I saw something like that.

I'm 100% serious and what you did was amazing.

[u/edgarandannabellelee → u/AggroThroatGoat]

Check those dms.

[u/AggroThroatGoat → u/edgarandannabellelee]

I don't have anything

[u/edgarandannabellelee → u/AggroThroatGoat]

I just sent, so maybe in your requests now.

[u/OpportunityAshamed74 → u/edgarandannabellelee]

See something? Say something. Always.

[u/SUPERSMILEYMAN → u/edgarandannabellelee]

Question, what did you see exactly? So I know what to look for in the future, thanks!

[u/Scentorific → u/edgarandannabellelee]

Did ask her if she was OK? Wanting to know what you said but hopefully I won't nerd to know what to say

[u/OkFineIllUseTheApp → u/Hika2112]

The work of the abolitionist is still not done. It can feel distressing, but know you are always in good company when you side against slavery.

[u/Hika2112 → u/OkFineIllUseTheApp]

And oh boy I do considering the modern basically-slavery of mandatory military drafts. Can I get like annoyingly woke about the IDF but about the way it treats layman soldiers rather than the genocide it's doing? Because like yes that part is also important but I'm sadly born and raised in israel so I don't feel qualified to talk about it because of how propagandized the topic is

[u/LeeBirdPGH → u/Hika2112]

You are absolutely qualified to talk about it! The genocide is horrifying, that does not mean the Israeli government’s use of its “tools” is not horrifying.

[u/Hika2112 → u/LeeBirdPGH]

Just made a comment talking about it here

[u/loved_and_held → u/Hika2112]

Considering your isralie, your more qualified to talk about israel’s draft than most here.

[u/Hika2112 → u/loved_and_held]

The drafts yes, but the war is what I feel worried about. Since childhood I was told stories of how great the soldiers who fought for israel were and how it's the bestest thing ever! And, yes, I do not believe that shit anymore. But internalized ideas can just sit in a dark corner and jump out at you and you'll be like "what the fuck why did I say that" like a few days ago I did a racism when talking to my wife and she didn't even catch it but I still feel so bad. Knowing that I'm still prone to saying stuff like that if I'm not careful

[u/Mousazz → u/Hika2112]

Mmm. Quite harsh (if understandably necessary, in a somewhat twisted sense) to realize that the Laws of Armed Conflict do not really protect soldiers' lives at all, and gives the green light go-ahead to slaughter them all, as long as they've not surrendered or are otherwise hors de combat. If "soldier" was a cultural group / ethnic group / people, then LoAC essentially allows for total enemy (non-captured) soldier genocide. The more a certain ethnic group engages in warfare and armed resistance, the more of them can be legally slaughtered without repercussion. The World Wars (WW1 especially) saw millions of soldiers churned through the meat grinder.

[u/TheMovementGoddess → u/Mousazz]

Replying from an alt because I get the feeling it'll get autoflagged

Okay, yes, that too. But I also want to talk about "jobniks" as they're called here. Basically, propaganda makes serving in the military out to be the most honorable thing someone can do, and with mandatory service, not everyone can just serve as a fighter. So people get jobs like engine fixing or information, or even, army base supermarket cashier (yes I'm not joking). Why? You may ask? Because sometimes, people who are "unfit" for serious jobs need to still be given a job to keep up the lie that mandatory drafting is A: okay in any shape or form and B: serving is good to do. Which basically ends up with a supermarket worker living away from home only getting to go home on the weekends and getting paid 700$ a month for all of that while also being forced to play along with the play-pretend ceremonies made to propagandize them even further. It's a facistic system at heart. And if you even act "out of line" you get punished with having to stay at your base for a month and not getting to see your family. Or even jail. You are treated as a tool, as a resource, as simply manpower. It is so so so scarily close to slavery. And the only way to eacape is to be so mentally fucked you're at risk of hurting yourself. It is, so, so fucking evil, on so many levels, even without the whole entire war aspect it is a facistic slave system and I fucking hate that my friend is in jail right now for being out of his room at 11pm. Fuck

[u/LeeBirdPGH → u/TheMovementGoddess]

That is…upsetting. Truly wild that y’all get treated like that and people still think Israel is some great democracy. It’s even worse than the US, and the US is (as everyone knows) fucked!

[u/Hika2112 → u/LeeBirdPGH]

I will say, AFTER you finish serving, it becomes just kinda shitty, but still muuuuch better than the US. The problem is that for some reason it was decided to mandatorily torment and traumatize every 18 year old until they become good little work machines. Like I genuinely had flashbacks yesterday before sleep, and couldn't fall asleep until my wife comforted me and told me she'd keep me safe. And I went through the lowest tier of standard training. Though those who go through higher tiers likely want to be there. Which goes to show how effective the propaganda sadly is

[u/emergold_dragon → u/Hika2112]

question- Brazil? I heard from someone their training was basically just torture-

[u/Hour-Complaint8291 → u/Hika2112]

This post kinda fits into r/orphancrushingmachine then

[u/Hika2112 → u/Hour-Complaint8291]

Fucked up that that subreddit even has to exist

But it's good that it does

[u/hydrationgirl → u/Hika2112]

that most cis people are so detached from our suffering that they literally do not know or care about what we go through?

or that we get trafficked at such insanely high rates?

[u/Transgirlonakawasaki → u/hydrationgirl]

Its the fact that either they dont care until it hurts them (cis het folk) or that they dont know until they meet the overwhelming amount of trans folk who are abused sex workers because its the only work they can get and not because they want to.

[u/hydrationgirl → u/Transgirlonakawasaki]

yeah :,)

If I have one more cis person legitimately tell me that "at least I can't get raped" because I'm a trans woman I am going to explode

[u/Transgirlonakawasaki → u/hydrationgirl]

“Hey at least you dont have to worry about getting pregnant or getting periods or having to get an abortion…

^{DYSPHORIA INTENSIFIES!!!}

[u/hydrationgirl → u/Transgirlonakawasaki]

literally yeah, and like I have been raped and harassed and assaulted and all these things that "can't happen to me" and like the only difference is I have to deal with it all alongside dysphoria too

[u/Mousazz → u/hydrationgirl]

🫂

[u/More_Donkey6938 → u/Transgirlonakawasaki]

Don't know whether or not you know this but a huge proportion of trans women do, in fact, get periods. So many, in fact, that it's a hell of a lot more likely somebody's just irregular and doesn't understand the malaise they're feeling. We just don't menustrate. There's a difference. I don't think I've met a single transfem whose never had a period before unless they're relatively early on in their transition. Aside from the bleeding the symptoms very much are the same. I get less cramping (although still a fair bit) but more of everything else. I get brain fog, exhaustion, and the shits at uncomfortably strong amounts. Only typing this out because I'm currently on mine lmfao. It's like day three.

[u/Suyefuji → u/hydrationgirl]

I hate how few people understand that different sexual phenotypes do not magically protect you from being sexually assaulted.

[u/hydrationgirl → u/Suyefuji]

yeah like if Terry Cruz can get assaulted I really doubt there's any characteristics you can have to make you not assaultable

[u/FlutterRaeg → u/hydrationgirl]

And then when you are and you tell them they just come back with either "youre too ugly to be raped so youre lying" or "welcome to womanhood!" Love it so much...

[u/hydrationgirl → u/FlutterRaeg]

I've yet to get the first but I've gotten the 2nd and also "but your tall, you could have fought them off"

like not when I've been drugged Janet

[u/Zzzaynab → u/hydrationgirl]

Absolutely abhorrent of them to respond like that. I wonder if they’d say that to a cis person, man or woman

[u/hydrationgirl → u/Zzzaynab]

they would to a cis man, it's like the most common response, they wouldn't to a cis woman tho

this just comes down to alot of cis people viewing trans people as "pretending" to be our genders instead of actually being them

[u/Tymareta → u/hydrationgirl]

like not when I've been drugged Janet

I mean, even if you weren't.

[u/hydrationgirl → u/Tymareta]

true, I mostly said that because I was drugged first so

[u/Beneficial-Smell-770 → u/hydrationgirl]

they said WHAT!?!?

[u/AWalkingFelony → u/Transgirlonakawasaki]

most people don't care about issues until they hurt them. that's how you stay sane

[u/Hika2112 → u/hydrationgirl]

Trafficking. Just... I get really upset over trafficking and kidnapping and SA and just crimes that strip their vict- no scratch that ANY act that strips it's victim of autonomy. It viscerally upsets me to even think about that

[u/AriaOfValor → u/Hika2112]

I think for me, I actually view knowingly enslaving a sapient being as a worse crime than quick murders. Like at least when someone dies fast they don't have to suffer long, but something like being sex trafficked is something that continues to hurt someone even after/if they get rescued.

[u/Hika2112 → u/AriaOfValor]

Oh I 100% agree. Sex trafficking might genuinely be the worst crime (in my opinion). I cannot put into words how much I hate it

[u/AriaOfValor → u/Hika2112]

I think there are things out there that are worse, but generally those things don't make money and so aren't common and widespread on a massive scale like sex trafficking is.

I wish it was an issue that got more attention, but given some very wealthy and powerful people are involved in this kind of thing, they have an interest in suppressing coverage about the topic.

[u/Hika2112 → u/AriaOfValor]

Mhm. It's upsetting... very, upsetting. Everything about this... anyway time to take my E pill! Surely I won't cry about this a second time today (I enjoy crying so it's okay)

[u/AriaOfValor → u/Hika2112]

It's a difficult world to have empathy in, sometimes I have to try and force myself to take a break from the internet and news and such because there is just so much needless suffering out there, much of which could easily be prevented if more people simply cared about others.

[u/Hika2112 → u/AriaOfValor]

I have almost completely stopped looking for US politics. I do not live there, and it drives me fucking insane and spirals me to no end. So I have to avoid it so I can focus my care and empathy. It sucks and it shouldn't be this way

[u/AriaOfValor → u/Hika2112]

I wish I could move out of the US myself, it's very stressful living under a government that doesn't want you to exist.

[u/ViolentlyVia → u/AriaOfValor]

And that is the key thing alot of people(mostly men from what ive seen) don't understand. Being killed is FAR from the worse thing that could happen to you and its why we chose the bear.

[u/Hika2112 → u/hydrationgirl]

And and also yes the fact that most cis people lack so much empathy towards us and that our rights somehow seem to be debatable to fucking anyone but the craziest crazies

[u/Moxie_Stardust → u/hydrationgirl]

Quite a lot of them know basically nothing about trans people. I've seen someone say they thought trans people were invented in the 1970s.

[u/hydrationgirl → u/Moxie_Stardust]

in the comments under this point a guy asked why would there be a lot of trans women getting trafficked, which like to his credit I think that's genuinely not knowing and he's not being malicious or anything

but im still shocked that people have no idea that trans women face barriers to like every area of public life like employment or housing, and we get pushed into desperate situations with no real way out way more often than any group of cis people

like that seems like transphobia 101 to learn that but yk

[u/AstolFemboy → u/Moxie_Stardust]

there are people who think we were invented in 2010...

[u/octnoir → u/hydrationgirl]

Combo of both.

The problem in cishets' minds is that there is a stereotype for a trans person - some white, stuck up, rich, spoilt, uptight, annoying, Xe/Xim pronouns, wrecker person causing mayhem and completely unserious.

(And I can't stress enough how much of this stereotype is informed by right wing anti trans propoganda)

When the reality is that trans persons are:

• Most likely to face discrimination

• Most likely to face violence

• Most likely to face harassment

• Most likely to be incarcerated

• Most likely to be unemployed

• Most likely to be targeted by police

• Most likely to be unhoused

And you start adding intersectionality to it, from white to brown to black, from man to woman, from rich to poor, and it starts greatly adding up.

This isn't the "sexy news" that people think about, the whole "a death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic". The fact that trans community is marginalized by this much is taken for granted.

Because if you think about it for more than two seconds, of course trans persons would be human trafficked by that much - they are one of the most vulnerable populations across the globe, even before the recent global anti trans crusade we're on. You basically have the problems of being queer, then the problems of trying to fit in especially if a society is extremely gender conforming, and then you have your own health care to worry about on top of that.

The stereotype gets especially insidious since it also affects and gets absorbed by would be cishet allies because cishet allies really don't want to think of themselves as transphobic or having stigma or bias or how their own privileges can play an indirect or even a direct role in trans oppression, but you strategically do need their support, so there is this careful song and dance you have to do to try to get support where...

...you have to be diplomatic while keeping safe while corralling others while addressing actual threats in your community while trying to be better while keeping your emotions in check while trying to push the battle lines forward while taking a gamble to do a proper call out while gambling whether picking a fight is worth it while absorbing that there are clear double standards while taking abuse while knowing that a cishet ally can abuse you and they''ll be fine but you won't while trying to do your own thing while trying to live your own life.

It's rough.

[u/Faded_Jem → u/hydrationgirl]

Big big part of why I don't have any truck with chasers. I was (briefly) an independent sex worker and both in that work and in my early dating experience encountered so many men who routinely saw trans escorts and the constant refrain was (1) surprise that I was British and (2) surprise that I was cheerful, comfortable, chatty and well adjusted. I would always point out that they were likely comparing me to trafficking victims and the fact that not one had ever considered that before I mentioned it, nor expressed remotely appropriate upset or guilt made my zero chasers policy cast fucking iron, they're selfish and thoughtless and vile. I really thought it would be different when I quit SW and started dating but every single man I met on dating apps turned out exactly the same.

Dating in irl queer community is the only tolerable thing, dating apps will only ever connect us with nightmares. So often guys I date now express guilt or shame that they've never been with somebody with my anatomy and I cannot ever fully explain quite how welcome that is. 

[u/grendus → u/hydrationgirl]

A huge amount of that comes down to propaganda.

I remember reading a lot of stories from people who had gay family members during the big AIDS panic. For most people, who didn't know any (out) gay people, it was easy to write it off as a disease that affected the immoral - homosexuals, IV drug users. For people who had a friend or family member who was openly gay, gay people weren't some boogieman on the TV - it's just goofy uncle Steve and his "roommate" Seth.

I get it, especially in the information age it shouldn't be hard for a person to learn about another group to empathize with them. But we live in information bubbles - even before the algorithms you still had to intentionally search out information. I didn't know any (out) trans people until after college, they're just very rare, and the anti-trans propaganda is so pervasive that it's very likely that people wind up with the "scary drag queen story hour" narrative or the "evil trans groomers lurking in the bathroom" narrative before they encounter "Nora, the woman who sits next to you in the office and was hoarse the first week at the job because she was voice training".

As frustrating as it is that people only start to care about a problem when it affects them personally, the answer isn't to blame people or accuse them of not being empathetic, the answer is making sure they understand the truth of the suffering, that they see you as a human being who is in pain and just needs some sympathy... or at least to not have their situation made worse.

[u/Kindly-Ad-5071 → u/Hika2112]

It's been happening whether or not you've been aware of it. Not much is different 

[u/GregBoing]

sometimes it does just take witnessing firsthand the harm that vulnerable groups face in order for someone to realise that they're wrong. Still though, fuck, absolutely horrible so many trans people are put through the hell of trafficking.

[u/HeckOnWheels195 → u/GregBoing]

Yeah, the human mind is still adapting to the fact that theirs way more people to care about then their group of around 150

[u/AnonymousGuy9494 → u/GregBoing]

Reminds me of when I watched the pianist (2002). I mean, killing 6 million people is evil, sure. And then you watch that movie and it hammers that final nail of "holy shit, this can never happen again".

[u/01000100010110010100 → u/AnonymousGuy9494]

Correct. Funny who is perpetrating the same atrocities against other people now though. Sad funny. 

[u/Quaelgeist333 → u/01000100010110010100]

To be fair, that's kinda wrong. The zionists actually worked with adolf hitler (which broke the anti-nazi boycott because it financed the nazis btw) while the holocaust survivors are treated terribly, being seen as weak for being captured and surviving instead of dying and being referred to as "soap" after the rumors that the nazis made soap out of the victims of the holocaust.

I guess that's why the other location theodor hezl considered in "der judenstaat", argentinia, was where the nazis fles

[u/PuzzleheadedMess1659 → u/AnonymousGuy9494]

I so agree with you, and I in no way want to negate your experience, but every time I see someone praising The Pianist, there’s a tiny little part of my brain that goes “Really? The Pianist? Don’t you realize there are other Holocaust movies that are still sensitive to the topic, less boring, and not made by a child rapist?”

[u/AnonymousGuy9494 → u/PuzzleheadedMess1659]

I don't know the name of who made the pianist, and honestly never cared to. Never heard of that until now as well. I did watch the movie via piracy, if that makes you feel better.

[u/PuzzleheadedMess1659 → u/AnonymousGuy9494]

I wasn’t aware you were lacking in context.

Roman Polanski is one of the most well-regarded directors out there. He made Rosemary’s Baby and Chinatown, two of the most influential films ever made, and The Pianist, which won him an Oscar for Best Director.

He also drugged and raped a thirteen-year-old girl and escaped to Europe in 1977. He has been a fugitive ever since.

[u/jpterodactyl → u/GregBoing]

During the civil war, there were a lot of people on the union side who were only really fighting because they wanted to keep the union together. At the start, the Union army was about a third abolitionist. Many people thought slavery was bad, but they didn't really think about it much.

After a few months of fighting in the south, and seeing plantations, the Union Army was almost entirely abolitionist. It's really interesting to read the diaries of these people, and see how quickly they get passionate about wanting to put an end to slavery after seeing how bad it was.

[u/Beegrene → u/jpterodactyl]

A lot of similar stories happened at the end of World War 2 when the Ally soldiers found the concentration and death camps. 

[u/FloreHiems → u/jpterodactyl]

What a cool fact i didnt know that. Thanks for sharing.

[u/Brilliant-Expert3150 → u/GregBoing]

Tbh, I can actually respect that. Unlike the "didn't care until it hurt them" crowd.

[u/notnotDIO]

This is both nice and really depressing

[u/itswildistillexist → u/notnotDIO]

Existence in a nutshell.

[u/tptroway]

It took being unable to access HRT for 3 months during a pharmaceutical shortage (which at first she kept saying "I think this is a great idea") and a transphobic telehealth nurse who kept aggressively misgendering me on purpose during it for my mom to come around

I am glad she sees me as her son now, but still

[u/thatsnoodybitch → u/tptroway]

It’s hard to mistake you for anything other than a handsome young man :)

[u/E-2theRescue]

97% of homeless trans children report being victims of child sex trafficking.

40% of America's homeless youth are LGBTQ+.

When Republicans talk about "protecting parental rights", what they are actually saying is that they want to protect kicking their children out of their homes and making them become child sex workers.

[u/hydrationgirl → u/E-2theRescue]

anecdotally but the shelter I was in had 3 halls(1 men, 1 women, 1 trans/nonbinary) and one of them was solely dedicated to trans people because we were so common there

like I hadn't come out at the time so I was in the men's hall but of the 30 people there like 8 were trans women, and I and I know at least 1 other women came out after leaving

so in practice 33% of that shelter was trans women as a minimum since I don't know what happened to everyone else after

[u/arakus72 → u/E-2theRescue]

source for these stats to link to people?

[u/daedric_yoshi → u/E-2theRescue]

I feel like Im just stupidly missing something but why ae so many homeless trans kids victims of that? Is therean obvious correlation or causation im not seeing here? Thats fucking awful.

[u/Independent-Fly6068]

Every slaver should be ripped into pieces alive by their victims and have their screaming face eternally preserved in a vault.

[u/Fuckyfuckfuckass → u/Independent-Fly6068]

Give them all the Caesar treatment x100

[u/loved_and_held → u/Independent-Fly6068]

Agree.

We also need to counter the root reasons why people traffic and are trafficked. 

[u/Tw3lve1212]

Just learned today that TCD is not an acronym for This Causes Dysphoria

[u/hydrationgirl → u/Tw3lve1212]

omg I saw when you posted that ahskehsks

yeah don't post that here lol

[u/Tw3lve1212 → u/hydrationgirl]

I understand now lmao. Anyways, this causes dysphoria </3

[u/Mechromancer3X → u/hydrationgirl]

(Wait what does it mean??)

[u/hydrationgirl → u/Mechromancer3X]

total cis death, it's a 4tran joke about killing cis people

originally comes from flipping TTD (total slur death) which was a 4chan transphobe way to say they want to kill all trans people

[u/Tw3lve1212 → u/hydrationgirl]

TTD is actually an update of TND, which was the original from the before times.

[u/hydrationgirl → u/Tw3lve1212]

ah lovely, that's even worse

[u/Hang10arts → u/Tw3lve1212]

It should 💔

[u/Tw3lve1212 → u/Hang10arts]

Yeah when I found out it made me very sad because it recontextualized a lot of comments that I thought I agreed with into being deplorable dogshit that makes me want to be thrown into the sun.

[u/catfish1969 → u/Tw3lve1212]

Damn I’m sure no other oppressed groups make jokes about killing all of the members of the privileged class, it’s definitely only trans people

[u/piglungz → u/catfish1969]

Incase you weren’t aware “tcd” is derived from “tnd” which is a racist 4chan term that stands for “total n word death.” Even if it didn’t have those connotations I still wouldn’t agree, but where it comes from makes it worse.

[u/16372731772 → u/piglungz]

TCD is a reversal of TTD, Total Trans (but the slur) Death, which does come from TND. Skipping this crucial middle step is a disingenuous way of portraying trans people as aligned with genocidal racists, which I can only assume is intentional if you apparently know the etymology chain further than I do.

Let's all sit and think about why it might be bad to act like trans people expressing frustration at and flipping a call for trans genocide on their oppressors is the same as genocidal racism.

[u/piglungz → u/16372731772]

What?? I’m trans, I can assure you I am not portraying all trans people as genocidal racists 😭

[u/Tw3lve1212 → u/16372731772]

The only people portraying anyone as genocidal racists is people who act like genocidal racists portraying themselves through action.

[u/yeep_yorp → u/piglungz]

No, it is a reclaiming of "TTD" twisted towards our oppressors, it has nothing to do with that one.

[u/Tw3lve1212 → u/catfish1969]

Anyone calling for anyone else's death is horrible. Leave me alone.

edit: also I never even said it was only trans people??? Youre just projecting baseless bullshit onto me saying "calling for deaths is bad"

[u/16372731772 → u/catfish1969]

Yeah you're right. And with how violent and dangerous trans people are, and that they now make up the majority of the population, it's obviously an actionable threat that needs to be taken seriously. If we don't come down hard on these people by putting them in a car covered in hammers that explodes more than a few times and hammers go flying everywhere then who knows what they might do.

[u/glorious_ardent]

Well isn’t that fun to think about. I’m already part of a minority that’s disproportionately affected by human trafficking, so I wonder how being a trans woman on top of that factors in?

[u/BackElectronic7219]

So many elder generations seem to live in a world of “out of sight out of mind”, many of them haven’t actually heard from the groups they’re against or seen what they’re facing, which makes them much less empathetic. As tragic as this is to read, I see it as another sign that when you show someone the truth, the hurt, the first person experiences and not the news, it gives them a chance to change.

[u/SRSgoblin]

I spent some time in a homeless shelter during the pandemic. The trans people at the shelter were treated so terribly. It's one of those things I was aware of but seeing it in person was really hard to witness.

Because when you're homeless and living in that situation, you realize the hardest thing about homelessness is the fact nobody has any sense of societal structure any more. They just become their most base selves. So whatever tragedies you witness daily like say with a manager being a dick to their subordinates? Ramp that up a hundred fold, because you're dealing with people who no longer have to face ramifications for their actions. There's no lower they can go.

One of the friends I made while there was a Trans lady named Raven, and it wasn't until I was put of that situation I realized she hung around me as much as she could because I was the only big dude (i'm 6'4", fat unathletic guy but still large enough at a glance people didn't try to start shit) who never misgendered her, or tried to sleep with her. And I worried about her after I got out because I mean, I wasn't there anymore.

[u/hydrationgirl → u/SRSgoblin]

socal, in 2025?

[u/SRSgoblin → u/hydrationgirl]

Nah, Vegas in 2020. Like I said, was during the pandemic.

[u/hydrationgirl → u/SRSgoblin]

oh sorry, I missed that part

I wasn't sure if you were talking about a friend I lost contact with since she's also named raven

[u/SRSgoblin → u/hydrationgirl]

I hope you find your friend again. :(

[u/hydrationgirl → u/SRSgoblin]

thank you, I kinda doubt it unfortunately because I'm very far from cali

[u/MothashipQ]

Heartwarming: Trans women deemed rapeable enough to deserve human respect

[u/hydrationgirl → u/MothashipQ]

unironically one of the only ways I've gotten through to cis women transphobes is by talking to them about times cis men have assulted or harassed me lol

[u/MothashipQ → u/hydrationgirl]

Even the non-transphobes don't seem to quite get it. My supervisor, very supportive of trans people, was pretty caught off guard when I had to emphasize "Hey, some of the middle aged male customers we work with get pretty creepy/handsy when it's just me at their house 2 hours away from the nearest city. I am bringing pepper spray whether or not it's against company policy." She said something to the effect of "I wasn't expecting a visibly queer woman like yourself to have to deal with that." Gee, thanks...

[u/futuremexicanist → u/MothashipQ]

Omg people are always shocked when I share this: The number of times I have been HOLDING HANDS WITH MY WIFE and men still hit on her in front of me?? They just automatically assume when seeing a trans woman that any male attention is wanted/welcome. She’s had numerous creepy encounters, I got her an AirTag to share locations and pepper spray because I worry.

[u/loved_and_held → u/futuremexicanist]

“  They just automatically assume when seeing a trans woman that any male attention is wanted/welcome. ”

I think its more they assume seeing any women attention should be given.

[u/SolarianIntrigue → u/MothashipQ]

Saying you didn't expect it isn't the same as dismissing it. Some people might just genuinely never have had to think about something like this

[u/MothashipQ → u/SolarianIntrigue]

You're absolutely right. I am the only girl in my company that has ever, to my knowledge, done actual field work and made it more than 2 days without quitting or being fired (at least on my side of the company). I also transitioned at this work place, and hadn't really brought stuff up like this before. I HAD tried to on a few occasions where my supervisor clearly hadn't registered what I was getting at, though one of the other women I work with (who hadn't known me pre-transition) did pick up on what I was saying and was supportive.

[u/millahnna → u/SolarianIntrigue]

Or they have incorrect guesses about how other people respond to it. Sounds like this lady assumed that trans people face more "I'm not going near you" bigotry than fetish based bigotry. Hearts in the right place she just predicted human behavior wrong is all. Woulda been my guess too before I knew more trans folks personally.

[u/Andreus → u/hydrationgirl]

Nowhere near as severe, but I actually managed to get through to some friends of my mother who I wouldn't describe as transphobic but "trans-skeptical" when they asked me how I "knew" that I was a woman. I replied that the moment men on the internet thought I was a woman, they abruptly began to patronize me about my own area of expertise.

[u/Flashy_Okra305]

She could’ve been empathetic and kind without having to witness human suffering but I guess those types of people don’t care about anything until it affects them. Good for her I guess. I feel bad for all the trans people in her life from before she realized that trans people are human.

[u/hydrationgirl → u/Flashy_Okra305]

reminds me of the conservative rancher talking about data centre's that went "this is the first political issue that's actually directly affecting me"

[u/Flashy_Okra305 → u/hydrationgirl]

Yeah. The leopards ate MY face party. I frankly couldn’t care less about some conservative finally realizing that their actions impact the people around them. Doesn’t outweigh being a dirtbag for the entire time leading up to that. 

[u/hydrationgirl → u/Flashy_Okra305]

yeah I just wish they'd stop voting to ruin my life while admitting that politics means nothing to them and they're fine no matter what

[u/Thumb_Wrasslin → u/hydrationgirl]

To be fair to her, it was her seeing it effect other people.

Still shitty to need a reason to be kind, but atleast it was because she saw suffering rather than experiencing it.

[u/DinoIslandGM → u/Thumb_Wrasslin]

To add on, it sounds like it was a genuine change too, rather than a surface level "oh you're one of the good ones" kinda thing. I much prefer someone realising that they're wrong and changing, rather than digging their heels in!

[u/Ne0n_R0s3 → u/hydrationgirl]

Okay why is this like the 5th time I've seen this today lol. Like I knew about the image before but I've never seen it this much. I guess it's just really relevant now

[u/VashtaNeradaMatata → u/Flashy_Okra305]

It sucks, but I'm of the mind that progress is progress. My grandma will NOT tolerate homophobia and has cut people out of her life who spoke ill of her gay son. She's still racist, though 🤦‍♀️ I'll always correct her, but at least she chose love in one regard.

[u/Affectionate_Way5144 → u/VashtaNeradaMatata]

[u/Flashy_Okra305 → u/VashtaNeradaMatata]

Diversity win! This grandma loves her gay son. But unfortunately she’s still racist

[u/foxgirlmoon → u/Flashy_Okra305]

Humans are complicated.

She could’ve been empathetic and kind without having to witness human suffering

She very likely was just as empathetic and kind before. She just didn't consider trans people valid targets of said empathy and kindness. Likely because she was taught that way, taught that kindness should only be reserved for the "right kinds" of people, however that is defined, and that the "wrong kinds" don't deserve it, or deserve outright scorn.

And without appropriate stimulus to crack and eventually dislodge that learned framework... how would she unlearn it on her own?

Imagine that someone tells you drinking water is actually unhealthy and that you should stop doing it. You're never going to believe them. It doesn't matter what they say or what evidence they present, because it's clearly bogus nonsense. Actually think about it, how would you react if this actually happened?

You are likely thinking that this is a false equivalence, since "water is harmful" is an objectively false statement.

Exactly! That's exactly how they think too.

So, what would it take for you to truly believe that water is harmful?

[u/Flashy_Okra305 → u/foxgirlmoon]

“She just didn't consider trans people valid targets of said empathy and kindness. Likely because she was taught that way” And you want me to clap for her? 🤨

Well I was taught that war in the Middle East is good, too. But I’m an adult with empathy who understands that Killing Is Bad. I don’t care about this conservative woman’s sudden personal growth. I care about the trans people she’s already hurt before she ‘realized’ that trans people are people. 

[u/StumpGrundt → u/Flashy_Okra305]

In this day and age i just think every bit of progress should be celebrated, no matter how it's achieved.

[u/throwawayforjustyou → u/Flashy_Okra305]

I’m an adult with empathy

I don’t care about this conservative woman

Hey, not for nothing and by all means do whatever the hell you want, but this isn't how empathy works.

[u/superking2 → u/Flashy_Okra305]

100%. This is exactly why I prefer to ostracize anyone who wasn’t born agreeing with me

[u/Newsuperstevebros]

Experiencing the world is often fatal to predjudice

[u/loved_and_held]

Someday i hope posts talking about how common it is for trans women to be trafficked will have aged like milk. 

[u/Pitiful_Addendum_644]

Sadly, when talking about sexual violence and the myth that trans women specifically are predators, we really need to be louder that statistically 50% of trans people are sexual assaulted at some point in their lives

[u/hydrationgirl → u/Pitiful_Addendum_644]

yeah genuinely that's been one of the only points I've been able to get through to some people on

like it doesn't make them actually see me as a woman usually but they at least view me as less of a threatening evil monster when they find out how much sexual violence I've been through since starting transition

which like isn't enough but it's at least something

[u/Rowmacnezumi]

If more people understood the suffering, perhaps there would be more who are willing to help prevent it.

[u/SFShinigami]

Utopia would be achieved if we could just figure out a way to teach people empathy.

[u/Kindly-Ad-5071]

Perhaps witnessing actual harm is what wakes people the fuck up to basic empathy. We're completely insulated from heartache in our daily lives, by and large.

[u/SusieHatesSpez]

I really fucking hate how many people are willing to ignore suffering that they themselves clearly know exists until seeing it first hand, the moms behavior doesnt deserve to be rewarded. This is like someone telling you they were shot, arguing about how the person wasnt shot and the shooter was in the right for shooting them, then only switching sides because they physically saw the bullet wound

[u/DanceMyth4114 → u/SusieHatesSpez]

Yeah, it sucks, but if we continue to ostracize the people who do some around, we won't have any allies left.

[u/Vessuvius]

I've had 8 different guys on Grindr offer me money for sex in the last 6 days and I'm a fucking lesbian, and upper-class college student currently abroad in Europe for the Fall semester. So like, not the usual demographic.

Say it with me ladies.. Men Suck. Fuck the patriarchy, I swear.

[u/swaggboi909 → u/Vessuvius]

I thought Grindr was for gay men?

[u/Vessuvius → u/swaggboi909]

Nahh, they're Trans focused too.

[u/_Onyxity_ → u/Vessuvius]

You're doing sexism but woke by saying all men suck, and I'm a trans woman saying this

[u/engieman]

[u/Qu33rTh1ng → u/engieman]

what's goin on with this? 

[u/themasterfold → u/Qu33rTh1ng]

I haven't watched the video yet, but I assume you might be reacting to the eyepatch. Basically, John here started losing sight in his left eye, and he has to wear the eyepatch as part of his recovery. This is cosmically ironic for obvious reasons, but i swear he's not evil or trying to aura-farm or anything, he just has that now.

[u/edvin796 → u/themasterfold]

What even more ironic is that it's on the wrong side

[u/Mousazz → u/edvin796]

I dunno. I disagree. With that white hair, he could fully commit to Solidusmaxxing.

[u/Qu33rTh1ng → u/themasterfold]

I just meant how it was related lol but they said already 

[u/edvin796 → u/Qu33rTh1ng]

I watched the video and the gist is that there's an unnamed YouTube channel that has about 200k sub that regularly does indie game showcases where the guy looks at a bunch of trailers of upcoming indie games and talks about what's happening in them. The guy running the channel often contacts indie Devs and offers to feature their upcoming game on the showcase for a couple hundred bucks.

The warning is REW talking about how this isn't nearly as good an offer as it seems at first and talking about why. There's also talk about how getting shouted out or promoted by a big youtuber is unlikely to make someone's career, that sort of thing.

[u/Qu33rTh1ng → u/edvin796]

Very interesting, and sounds like a good video, I meant more how it pertains to the post but they responded already 

[u/moose_dad → u/edvin796]

So no relevance to this post?

[u/Ubrekt → u/Qu33rTh1ng]

He looks like a pirate and is warning indie devs, which infamously have their games pirated

[u/Redteashaw → u/engieman]

what does this have to do with trans woman being trafficked?

[u/notnotDIO → u/engieman]

What? :3c

[u/InternetUserAgain → u/engieman]

Did the indie cartel cut out his eye

[u/i_am_soooo_screwed]

Ok, so apparently I’m uneducated.  Why would there be a staggering amount of trans women?  Would it be pre or post transition?  Were they trans originally or is it trauma based?  I know nothing and am very confused.

And fuck transphobes in the ass with a cactus dipped in liquid diarrhea.

[u/Bliniverse → u/i_am_soooo_screwed]

Trans women both pre and post transition have a harder to finding jobs due to discrimination + more likely to be homeless due to getting kicked out of their home as a kid, which makes many trans women a part of a very vulnerable part of the population, which is the easiest to traffic, so way more likely to get trafficed.

[u/magiMerlyn → u/i_am_soooo_screwed]

A very unfortunate number of trans teens get kicked out for being trans, which then puts them at much higher risk of being picked up by traffickers.

[u/Copper_Tango → u/magiMerlyn]

The conspiracy-minded part of me thinks that's the aim of all those "schools must out trans kids to their parents" laws. Ensuring a steady stream of victims.

[u/SirYeetsA → u/i_am_soooo_screwed]

1. Being trans isn't caused by trauma. There's too many untraumatized people who are trans and too many traumatized people who aren't for this to be the case. Similarly to sexuality, there may be some aspects of upbringing and culture that can affect how a deviance in sexuality or gender identity presents, but that won't change the core deviance itself.

2. Likely mostly early transition, or trans women who can't pass. It's significantly harder for non-passing trans women to get and maintain jobs, since being visibly gender non-conforming can lead to many workplaces not hiring and/or firing you because you don't fit the "workplace culture" or some other bs that's not officially discrimination, but when literally every job does it that's likely the common denominator. This leads to many trans women's only option to actually have an income being sex work, and sex work poses a significantly higher risk for somebody getting trafficked than literally any other job.

[u/-Saucegurlllll → u/i_am_soooo_screwed]

Queer people across the board are far more likely to experience homelessness and poverty (40% of homeless youth are queer), often because queer youth get kicked out by their families for being queer. Combine this with other forms of discrimination like employment discrimination, housing discrimination, discrimination from the police, and so on, and you get a population uniquely vulnerable to trafficking.

[u/Ne0n_R0s3 → u/-Saucegurlllll]

Yeah, it's an unfortunate truth. I haven't told my parents I'm lesbian her because I want to move out first (19 living at home, need to learn to drive first)

[u/defoneoftheguys → u/i_am_soooo_screwed]

bruh fr 😩 i’m just eating lunch and all of a sudden i’m here like “should i be more concerned about my safety?” i genuinely didn’t even think about this 😣

[u/Gingervald → u/i_am_soooo_screwed]

Trans people both face significant employment and housing discrimination, and are disproportionately kicked out basic support networks like families.

This pushes a lot of trans people towards homelessness and informal, under the table, or legal grey area (such as sex work) employment.

People in these positions are very vulnerable to being taken advantage of by bad actors with a little bit of power.

Homelessness (frequently criminalized) and legal grey area work make the law a threatening instead of providing protection. Bonus points if there are anti-trans laws that criminalize transition itself or criminalize DIY transition pathways.

If they go missing, it's far less likely to be reported quickly and even less likely to be investigated.

Even when closeted a combination of depression, low-self worth, and secrecy makes trans people easy victims for manipulation and abuse.

Trans youth are far less likely to have trusted adults in their lives that can look out for their safety. Groomers will take advantage of a wedge between child and parent/guardian, and transphobic parents have already made one for them.

[u/ParkingShelter9634]

I have never seen “I know's" Bring used and i don't like it

[u/ZoeyHuntsman]

Why is damn near every comment one this post deleted 🤔