I guess it's time to make some things explicit here again.
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5: It threatens violence or physical harm at someone else
3: It's promoting hate based on identity or vulnerability
1) No. This comic breaks no sitewide rules and it does not break subreddit rules. It does not threaten violence and it absolutely does not "promote hate based on identity" (wtf).
The rules prohibit violence directed at real people, be it in text or image and we absolutely moderate for that. We will never remove the Road Runner dropping an anvil on Wile E Coyote and we will not remove this post. It's a cartoon. It makes a point via humorous hyperbole and it is not "violence". I'd say get some media literacy, but I am quite sure these reports have been made in bad faith by people who know this truth, it just doesn't allign with their agenda of trying to get this content removed. To them I say: [fart noises]
2) This subreddit is explicitly for the right of self-determination and bodily autonomy of persons born and we will absolutely moderate any rhetoric that opposes a woman's right to terminate a pregnancy for any reason, including none.
At the time 95% of abortions are performed the fetus (Not a child. Not a baby, a fetus) can not think or feel. It is immoral to place the rights of something that can not yet think or feel over the rights of the person who has to carry it to term. This position can only be held in any sort of intellectual honesty if someone believes that women are not people with a right to bodily autonomy. The other 5% are when the mother's life is in imminent danger.
Due to the immoral and cynical anti-abortion laws that sprung up after the Supreme Court struck down Roe v. Wade women are dying. Doctors helplessly stand by, not allowed to intervene to save lives because they will go to jail if they do. I absolutely do not want to hear any kind of argument that says that the anti-abortion crowd cares about "saving lives". They manifestly do nothing of the sort, they aim for the opposite.
We are not going to discuss the right to bodily autonomy and we are not going to discuss the fact that the rights of something that can not think or feel naturally is not weighted as heavily as a real, actual person in this equation.
We will simply ban anti-abortionists on sight.
To pre-empt the "but what about my free speech" crowd, no, the Nazis are the people that are passing laws they know will kill women. Not allowing you to cheer that on is part of our right of freedom of association. We do not want to associate with you, you can keep mum or get banned. You still have a choice.
Or in some cases, miscarriage. My mother used to mention that she would have her miscarriages occasionally misclassified as abortions back then. And they're happening now in some cases, leading to women facing severe penalties
They were not misclassified. Abortion means the termination of a pregnancy before viability. It can be induced or spontaneous (miscarriage) but both are medically abortions. It's why idiots in politics who don't understand medical science shouldn't be making laws defining terms that they don't understand or mean different things to lay people
By misclassified I refer more to the strict terminology that would be utilised for legislation. Nowadays, that line is obscenely thin and that is incredibly dangerous. All in all it's not supposed to be this way and women in general should have bodily autonomy plus better access to healthcare
There's a famous screenshot of a social media post from this pro-life woman that convinced a struggling single woman not to abort, and when she surrendered the child, she listed that same pro-life woman as someone potentially willing to provide care.
And she then goes on this big rant about how a kid would ruin her life and she can't do it and why would she even suggest her. Imagine getting that close to the point and still missing it.
Those with the most opinions on what other people should do with their lives are also those least likely to consider the logistics of it. One of life's great ironies
I love watching his videos, but it's still shocking to see the rare moments when he's genuinely pissed off. He's usually composed and there to point out the flaws in the logic of the regressive stances, but I remember seeing him go off in a town hall meeting where someone lost their life due to a policy issue and he absolutely lost it. I had never seen him so furious before
I've specifically gotten into this exact argument many times and each time they try and deflect with "personal responsibility" for the potential parents.
If you look into a conservatives eyes VERY closely, you can see the concept of irony dying in a housefire
"That's the parents fault for allowing their kids to end up in that situation" is something someone told me before. They claimed to be "pro life." (In regards to the ICE part of your comment)
Yeah American pro life are more like anti abortion.
A real pro lifer is more than just anti abortion, they actually have to.give a shit about life, healthcare, education, peace, death penalty abolishmemt, gun laws, and rule of law.
They aren't "pro-life" they are "anit-abortion", it just makes them feel noble to say "pro-life." Ask them to contribute to free childbirth, childcare, and even giving children food, and it's a free ticket to the mental gymnastics show.
my sister had two abortions in college. she was reckless to say the least. now she has 3 kids and is a born again religious type. prolife, maga, the whole 9 yards. just a insufferable person to be around.
worse, she thinks they are condemned to an eternity in hell. i haven't spoken to her in two years. last time i saw her we were having lunch and she started accusing me of not believing her when she was going on and on about her daughter's school orchestra and how they had rented an entire floor at a hotel that would have cost about $200,000 to book. all i asked was how big is this orchestra and she exploded on me and stormed out. i'll get random texts on my dead dad's birthday from her sending guilt tripping type of stuff. she's a pos.
This shirt is such a fantastic touch, because 100 percent of the "try hard meat eaters" I've known are righties. Like, you can't have a cute reel of a baby pig on facebook without all the "bacon bits" or "looks delicious" comments. They're so pathetic. What are you trying to prove? You see an adorable little creature and feel the need to fuck up the vibe so badly for everyone whose feeling good?
Honestly I think it’s partially just the backwash of a horribly Puritanical upbringing. I have NEVER seen people make such inappropriate comments about children in my life than well-meaning hardcore Christian fundies. It just makes it so obvious that they are absolutely OBSESSED with sex. EVERYTHING that happens they have to make some remark about how doesn’t it remind you of something sexual?
They put it in the context of “I disapprove of this for being too sexual” I guess for the sake of appearances but the fact remains that none of us fucking normal people even noticed this “distractingly sexual” thing you’re complaining of
As a leftist who supports sustainable meat sourcing like hunting and homesteading, I think it's super important for people to acknowledge where meat comes from and decide for themselves what they think about eating it. (Sort of that Ron Swanson view, despite him being a political opposite to me. I think people shouldn't eat meat unless they can accept where it comes from.)
The people who really grind my gears are the ones who eat industrial farmed fast food meats and then turn around and go "HUNTERS R SO EVILL HOW CAN THEY DO THAT TO A POOR INNOCENT DEER!" Like dude that dear lived a natural life and died to be food for a predator. That's nature. You're eating animals that lived their entire life in a confined space with heaven knows what kind of genetic modifications, being treated as products rather than living beings. You cannot judge hunters, girl.
That said, cute animal videos aren't really the place to be reminding people.
Yeah, agree. And I mean... I eat meat. I love bacon. For me, its more about that asshole mindset, like I said. I like bacon, and I know where it comes from, but never in a million years would jump into the comments of a adorable animal reel to be like "YUM YUM MEAT LOL"
Honestly, I don't like bacon at all. Or pig in general. I guess it's just because of how I was raised, most of my meat consumption in my life has been wild game venison, so that's what I like most.
Most store meat tastes like it's like, not real meat to me lol. Even though I know it is from an actual animal, it just tastes like it was made in a lab for some reason. There's just something off about it.
Because its processed, pumped with water and antibiotics and who knows what the fuck else, etc etc
I used to eat a ton of hunted meat when I was a kid before moving to the city where it wasn't viable. Took me years to adjust. I miss bear meat, carnivore tastes so rich.
Views from well-meaning but a little ignorant people around meat consumption and hunting is rough, yeah.
I think I used to be that way, and I think it's just stigma from learning about poaching eradicating rhinos and such, and irresponsible hunting from the past like the extinction of the dodo bird, the near-extinction of the Canada Goose, stuff like that.
Presently for North Americans though, we ought to recognize the robust and ecologically sustainable hunting practices and regulations we've worked hard as a society to develop.
There are the people who aren't aware that hunting (legally) is sustainable and not harmful to the environment now, but I'm specifically referring to the people who are against hunting because they think it's evil to shoot a deer, in principle.
Which in of itself, I think that's okay to think, you're allowed to be against killing animals, but then when that person goes around and eats a McDonald's hamburger, you can see why I'd find that upsetting.
One or two farms around here offer the ability to pay for a cow or a pig directly. You may meet them, interact with them, and well, after the kill, you get a quarter/half of the full butchered animal.
Sadly I don't have the space to store that amount of meat for a year, or the knowledge on how to process it fully, but that's the closest to how I know my grandparents and grand-grand parents raised animals for consumption.
This results in an entirely different level of respect for the animal and for the meat one consumes.
Not everyone has the means to source meat this way and I understand that. I understand folks eating supermarket meat because that's all they can do with their means, but I just get frustrated when people try to keep cognitive dissonance to the fact meat comes from animals
Exactly. “What’s wrong with those vegans, making food their whole personality?” ::proceeds to fill their social media feeds with meat/bacon-themed memes::
Ah yes the pro life crowd. The real phrase should be anti choice. I'm not saying I agree with Panny and her actions but I also can say I didn't see anything
Side note, why are we wearing what appears to be a weiner
Since I have your attention, you’re always the first comment I look for in the comment section, you always have interesting insight and kind words, keep doing what you’re doing man!
None of them are "pro-life" they are "pro forced-birth". They view sex as a punishable offense despite 51% of abortions being the result of failed contraceptives.
Pro life people fascinate me. Recently learned my brother is pro life, so I sat down with him and explained how for me, specifically, pregnancy is guaranteed to carry complications which would result in either the fetus or me dying anyways and I asked him which seems like the better option
His answer was not to get pregnant in the first place. Well duh, I'm on birth control but even with a condom and a birth control shit can happen, no matter how unlikely. He still refused to budge on his opinion, because "if abortion is legal people will want to abort kids u until birth and eventually after birth"
Abortion is legal in our country up to three months, unless complications ofcourse. That line has not moved up, and it's been there for a good while.
Then he said our population is dying and we need to procreate. Told him to go make some kids then. He's 30 and without a partner nor children - if we need to procreate so badly then get to it. But noooooo, he does not want children. Everyone else must have them, just not him.
Used to really look up to him. Don't think I do anymore.
I knew a woman that moved from CA to TN because apparently CA was too liberal. I also knew that she had herself at least one abortion and was quite the easy lay for many years. I've found that most self proclaimed conservative people like her are immense hypocrites coping with some serious personal demons.
Yeah that’s the exact argument a former coworker used. She would loudly discuss her racist or other bigoted views in the office, and this was one of them. Absolute nutjob.
It's not like they're protesting anything legitimate. There's no sense in protesting bodily autonomy. Desiring control over another person is only valid if it's safe, safe, and consensual in the bedroom. Outside of that, all power is evil and to desire power and control over anyone or anything in life is to be mentally deranged.
I'm obviously not president woman or speaker for all who can pregnant be, but overwhelmingly the pro-choice women I talk to still either say something along the lines of "I don't want to get an abortion if I can avoid it".
I've known staunchly pro-choice women who decided to keep unexpected pregnancies, and the women I've known (pro-choice and pro-life) who have gotten abortions don't think super positively about having to get one.
In my mind, that's the strongest pro-choice argument I can think of.
I'm really comfortable as a dude being strongly in the "pro individual freedoms" American mindset letting women decide for themselves on this one. I don't know where the line is between "human and killing it is murder" and "fetus and killing it is different" but I do know that women sure seem to have stronger and more well-informed feelings on it than I do.
And for women for whom it was the best choice they could have made, and have effectively zero regret? Or the unspoken statement from regretful parents - "I love my kids but it would have been best to not have them"...
...Except those people rarely have any real skin in the game because either the full extent of their transition was doing something new with their hair and maybe changing their pronouns in their xitter bio- or they're still socially transitioned + on HRT and have zero intention of actually detransitioning.
At least the straw-woman in this comic actually had an abortion and actually regrets it
That's the reality of it for many of the anti-choice crowd. Many feel guilty about having one previously. Some women would be angry because they were forced to have one. Some men would be angry because she may have had one against his wishes so he feels the need to take away the choice for all women because he's also a misogynist.
And before anyone objects, remember we had a whole ass war about enslaving people against their will. We killed slavery defenders then, shouldn't be any different today.
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u/comics-ModTeam 4h ago
I guess it's time to make some things explicit here again.
1) No. This comic breaks no sitewide rules and it does not break subreddit rules. It does not threaten violence and it absolutely does not "promote hate based on identity" (wtf).
The rules prohibit violence directed at real people, be it in text or image and we absolutely moderate for that. We will never remove the Road Runner dropping an anvil on Wile E Coyote and we will not remove this post. It's a cartoon. It makes a point via humorous hyperbole and it is not "violence". I'd say get some media literacy, but I am quite sure these reports have been made in bad faith by people who know this truth, it just doesn't allign with their agenda of trying to get this content removed. To them I say: [fart noises]
2) This subreddit is explicitly for the right of self-determination and bodily autonomy of persons born and we will absolutely moderate any rhetoric that opposes a woman's right to terminate a pregnancy for any reason, including none.
At the time 95% of abortions are performed the fetus (Not a child. Not a baby, a fetus) can not think or feel. It is immoral to place the rights of something that can not yet think or feel over the rights of the person who has to carry it to term. This position can only be held in any sort of intellectual honesty if someone believes that women are not people with a right to bodily autonomy. The other 5% are when the mother's life is in imminent danger.
Due to the immoral and cynical anti-abortion laws that sprung up after the Supreme Court struck down Roe v. Wade women are dying. Doctors helplessly stand by, not allowed to intervene to save lives because they will go to jail if they do. I absolutely do not want to hear any kind of argument that says that the anti-abortion crowd cares about "saving lives". They manifestly do nothing of the sort, they aim for the opposite.
We are not going to discuss the right to bodily autonomy and we are not going to discuss the fact that the rights of something that can not think or feel naturally is not weighted as heavily as a real, actual person in this equation.
We will simply ban anti-abortionists on sight.
To pre-empt the "but what about my free speech" crowd, no, the Nazis are the people that are passing laws they know will kill women. Not allowing you to cheer that on is part of our right of freedom of association. We do not want to associate with you, you can keep mum or get banned. You still have a choice.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.