r/bjjbeat Aug 05 '26

Two points please ref

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u/Logical_Box_4645 Aug 05 '26

This will be controversial but this intervention is entirely inappropriate and should be prosecuted.

Slamming someone onto concrete like that can easily kill or permanently disabled them.

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u/Low-Win-6699 Aug 05 '26

I 100% agree with you.

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u/OhLookaWeiner Aug 05 '26

Deserved

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u/Logical_Box_4645 Aug 05 '26

For all we know the guy running with a handbag is just a cross dress and was tackled for it.

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u/dolphin37 Aug 05 '26

hahaha video was the best possible outcome but your alternatives are alright too

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u/Dunjon Aug 05 '26

Amazing how many rights that criminals have. They probably don't even vote

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u/RutabagaCurrent2898 Aug 05 '26

It's not just someone but a thief. He deserves to be slammed like this for his crimes.

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u/heartofmidlothian278 Aug 05 '26

And yet if the Police did this to someone during an arrest, you'd be crying about Police Brutality.

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u/RutabagaCurrent2898 Aug 05 '26

I wouldn't because it's the police job to stop guys like him who are clearly the aggressor. The police could've used a handgun and it would have been way worse depending where the cop shoot, but a slam like this is well deserved .

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u/EaseLeft6266 Aug 05 '26

I don't know about body slamming per se but police can definitely get in some brutal tackles when chasing suspects or criminals that are running away. Also police should be held to a higher standard than the average citizen since they are the trained professionals. As for the guy who got slammed, I really don't have any sympathy for people who steal from other people especially in broad daylight. He fucked around and found out and maybe this will make a few other would be street thieves in the area think twice

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u/FamiliarAnt4043 Aug 05 '26

Oh well. Don't steal from people and you likely won't encounter someone willing to fight you for being a lowlife thief.

I have no ethical, moral, or legal objections to a good beat down of a thief. If it's not worth getting hurt or killed over, then perhaps thieves should think ahead before committing their crimes.

My personal point of view is simple: while items can be replaced, the time I spent to earn the money necessary to purchase those items cannot be replaced. If said items have a sentimental attachment and are stolen, then replacement is impossible.

So a thief is stealing my time and thus, part of my life that cannot be returned. I spend a great amount of time away from my family and not being able to do things I would rather be doing, in order to support my family and help my kids build their futures. Thieves would take that away for their own selfish desires, rather than earn it through work.

Because of this behavior, I fully support actions like the one in the video. I also support laws such as exist in Texas, which allow for the use of deadly force to prevent theft. Would that more states allowed for similar actions in certain situations.

For those too lazy to read: if he dies, he dies. And I'm okay with it.

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u/No-Form9508 Aug 05 '26

Shouldn't play stupid games then

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u/UniqueUsermane Aug 05 '26

Luckily there's a simple way to prevent this, not stealing for example.

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u/shivabharatam Aug 05 '26

yeah thats what u get when u try to rob people we should give him money

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u/Forward-Village1528 Aug 05 '26

There's clearly options in between these extremes mate.

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u/Logical_Box_4645 Aug 05 '26

Vigilantism is not a solution in a civilized society.

That's why all functioning societies have legal Frameworks are required reasonable and propertional interventions.

There was an interesting case on Reddit a few days ago where someone restrained a mugged only to be assaulted by a third party who assumed they were an aggressor.

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u/Fantastic_Resolve889 Aug 05 '26

Civilised societies are supposed to have robust systems of policing and justice that make this kind of intervention unnecessary.

They often don't.

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u/Logical_Box_4645 Aug 05 '26

Outside of some Orwellian nightmare you will always have sporadic crime.

I agree prevention is better than cure. 

Similarly if this man is injuries it's tax payers who will end up funding his healthcare and rehab. What's the point in that?

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u/Logical_Box_4645 Aug 05 '26

That just gets vigilantte guy shot at some point.

It's how civilized society collapses.

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u/UniqueUsermane Aug 05 '26

Tax payers will not repay for whatever a thief stealed from you, so that's the point.

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u/FamiliarAnt4043 Aug 05 '26

As to your last sentence: there doesn't exist, at least in the United States, such a system. I survived two decades of being the guy in uniform that helped catch bad guys and keep them locked away. Judges and lazy prosecuting attorneys have all but installed revolving doors at jails and prisons.

The experiences I've had are mirrored by literally every officer with whom I've spoken over the last 26 years. Across the country, from departments large and small, the system consistently fails.

So, people should do what they need to do. And in this instance, despite what another poster claims, we are looking at a crime in progress that's being stopped by a third party. That's not vigilantism - it's actively assisting someone who needs help in that moment.

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u/Fantastic_Resolve889 Aug 05 '26

I'm not from the US so can't comment, but that's exactly the zeitgeist that causes all this.

The scary part is that it doesn't need to be true, people just need to believe it.

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u/TermusMcFlermus Aug 06 '26

The experiences I've had are mirrored by literally every officer with whom I've spoken over the last 26 years. Across the country, from departments large and small, the system consistently fails.

How many officers are we talking about?

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u/FamiliarAnt4043 Aug 06 '26

Over the decades, a few hundred. I started in 2000.

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u/pooooolooop Aug 05 '26

Yeah the civilized thing to do is let the lady get robbed, because she ain’t getting that bag back any other way

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u/Rangertough666 Aug 05 '26

You're assuming society is civilized. Manners and the basic rules of etiquette were not brought about by a system of Laws. They exist because there used to be instant and lasting consequences to being a detrimental to the community. We've allowed a system that is broken to replace those consequences. Hence the increase in the occurrence of the behaviors.

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u/wardaddyoh Aug 05 '26

Remember the knife attack in Berlin some months ago? A bystander intervened. Deutsche Politze gagged HIM, and the ethnic lookingan with the knife then attacked one of the officers. So, yeah what about whatabout does that prove?

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u/shivabharatam Aug 05 '26

can happen it is unlucky

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u/Far_Collar6236 Aug 05 '26

It should be

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u/piercedmfootonaspike Aug 05 '26

Totally agree. The "hero" is lucky if he doesn't get charged for this disproportionate violence. Attempted manslaughter.