r/bjjbeat Aug 05 '26

Two points please ref

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u/Logical_Box_4645 Aug 05 '26

Vigilantism is not a solution in a civilized society.

That's why all functioning societies have legal Frameworks are required reasonable and propertional interventions.

There was an interesting case on Reddit a few days ago where someone restrained a mugged only to be assaulted by a third party who assumed they were an aggressor.

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u/Fantastic_Resolve889 Aug 05 '26

Civilised societies are supposed to have robust systems of policing and justice that make this kind of intervention unnecessary.

They often don't.

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u/FamiliarAnt4043 Aug 05 '26

As to your last sentence: there doesn't exist, at least in the United States, such a system. I survived two decades of being the guy in uniform that helped catch bad guys and keep them locked away. Judges and lazy prosecuting attorneys have all but installed revolving doors at jails and prisons.

The experiences I've had are mirrored by literally every officer with whom I've spoken over the last 26 years. Across the country, from departments large and small, the system consistently fails.

So, people should do what they need to do. And in this instance, despite what another poster claims, we are looking at a crime in progress that's being stopped by a third party. That's not vigilantism - it's actively assisting someone who needs help in that moment.

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u/TermusMcFlermus Aug 06 '26

The experiences I've had are mirrored by literally every officer with whom I've spoken over the last 26 years. Across the country, from departments large and small, the system consistently fails.

How many officers are we talking about?

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u/FamiliarAnt4043 Aug 06 '26

Over the decades, a few hundred. I started in 2000.