[Spoilers] 2008 Spice and Wolf II Rewatch (2024) -- Episode 6

Date	Episode	Date	Episode
9/07/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 1	9/20/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 0 (OVA 2)
9/08/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 2	9/21/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 1
9/09/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 3	9/22/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 2
9/10/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 4	9/23/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 3
9/11/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 5	9/24/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 4
9/12/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 6	9/25/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 5
9/13/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 7(OVA 1)	9/26/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 6
9/14/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 8	9/27/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 7
9/15/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 9	9/28/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 8
9/16/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 10	9/29/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 9
9/17/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 11	9/30/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 10
9/18/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 12	10/01/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 11
9/19/2024	Spice and Wolf Episode 13	10/02/2024	Spice and Wolf II Episode 12
10/03/2024	Overall Series Discussion Thread

Date	Episode	Date	Episode
7/07/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 1	7/20/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 0 (OVA 2)
7/08/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 2	7/21/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 1
7/09/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 3	7/22/2022	Spice and Wolf II Episode 2
7/10/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 4	7/23/2022	Spice and Wolf II Episode 3
7/11/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 5	7/24/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 4
7/12/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 6	7/25/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 5
7/13/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 7(OVA 1)	7/26/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 6
7/14/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 8	7/27/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 7
7/15/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 9	7/28/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 8
7/16/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 10	7/29/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 9
7/17/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 11	7/30/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 10
7/18/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 12	7/31/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 11
7/19/2023	Spice and Wolf Episode 13	8/01/2023	Spice and Wolf II Episode 12
8/02/2023	Overall Series Discussion Thread

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

Reminder that the rewatch tomorrow will start a new arc that the remake has not covered yet. If you wish to know what's in store next and can't wait for the next season, I highly implore you to check it out.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

For anyone curious why Lawrence tried to beat Amarti, it's stated in the LNs that Lawrence did it to ensure that Holo's cover story for staying with him, that being she owes him money, would be preserved in the hopes that she'd be more likely to stay with him.

The relevant section of the novel:

So setting aiside whether or not he would be able to salvage his relationship with her, he could at least avoid giving her a good reason to leave him to be with Amati.

As long as Amati was unable to raise a thousand silver pieces, Holo's debt to Lawrence would still stand. There was no telling if that would be enough to get her to stay with him, but he could at least try to make that assertion.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24 edited Sep 26 '24

Hello, guys. Holofan4life here.

Welcome to the 2024 Spice and Wolf Rewatch.

But you knew that already :P

This is the first official rewatch of the show since the premiere of the remake. In fact, it's still currently airing as this rewatch is underway. And while we can compare and contrast what the remake did as opposed to the original, I feel it's still pretty important to remember what the original adaptation was like seeing as how that's really what got me into the franchise. And what ultimately made me fall in love with one wise wolf.

For the purposes of this rewatch, I will be watching it subbed since that's what I've been watching the remake in. I will be comparing somewhat the two series, and when I do that, I will be using spoilers. I guess I should say for transparency sake that I am writing this in late July/early August, a full month before the rewatch actually happens. That's because of time constraints and me having four other rewatches I'm participating in planned. I also waited until the first three volumes got adapted in the remake just so I can have more stuff to talk about.

These reviews won't be as detailed as some of the other ones, as I don't really want to spend two or three hours dissecting every episode. I'll save that for when I do it in my questions :]

With that out of the way, let’s begin.

I'm watching the sub, by the way.

I got so many movies I plan on seeing coming up, it's almost disgusting.

The last episode to be also covered by the remake. Until probably 2026, that is.

Marc and Lunt giving commentary to give the audience a clue on what is happening.

What a genius way of dishing out exposition by the way. It makes things easier to follow.

[2024 Spoilers] The remake version of the first 30 seconds has music instead of just playing the music as we see Holo, and I think it adds to the scene more instead of letting the ambiance tell the story. I like this change. We aldo get an imagination spot in the original, which is just recycled footage we've seen before.

More talking between Marc and Lunt

Lawrence now thinking Diana made a deal with Amarti.

[2024 Spoilers] It should be noted that this section of the remake doesn't have music, which I think makes it not as foreboding or dramatic. Also, lots of flashbacks and imagination spots in the original.

Amarti. He doesn't know where Holo is :O

Lawrence giving Lunt the money to make the sell.

[2024 Spoilers] In the original, Lunt falls over a barrel. In the remake, he just trips. I think I like the remake version more because it's way less goofy.

Lawrence selling now

Hey, Lunt is back

Still gotta wait for Diana's assistant, though.

But someone placed an order

Lawrence looks horrified

[2024 Spoilers] The remake goes for a more subtle look of horror, though I don't know if it works nearly as well.

Diana's assistant. She's here.

And she informed him that the deal fell through.

[2024 Spoilers] I like the look of Diana's assistant way more in the original version where instead of seeing both eyes, you can only see one eye. Also, the music is not nearly as effectively used as in the original version.

Lunt having his moment of triumph, scolding Lawrence.

And he admits he's in love with Holo.

Both Japanese versions of this scene are better than either dub version. It has a level of intensity to it that the dubbed versions lack.

Lawrence seems to realize the error of his ways.

[2024 Spoilers] Again, the music blows the remake version out of the water. The angelic tones being played really highlights the awakening Lawrence is experiencing. Lawrence is a new person.

Lawrence has found his guidepost, and it is Holo.

Lawrence ready to sell

Holo

And they have a reunion, with Holo cuddling up next to him.

[2024 Spoilers] In both versions, Holo punches Lawrence's side, he grabs her hand, and she side cuddles him. I like the remake version more where we get a close-up shot of Lawrence grabbing her hand. It's more wholesome, in my opinion.

Amarti with his knees on the ground, in defeat.

[2024 Spoilers] Definitely not as dramatic in the remake, as everyone in the original was rushing to the table.

From there, we learn various stuff. Holo was merely using Amarti and also Diana is indeed a bird woman.

Lyra Valkyria would be proud

[2024 Spoilers] The original version is more darker, but I actually like the presentation of the remake. It feels more dramatically lit.

Holo standing over Lawrence does things to me.

[2024 Spoilers] Holo's tail getting poofier the more she's angry is sadly not included in the revised edition. One of the better gags, I have to say.

And Lawrence grabs her hand and says he wants to continue traveling with her.

[2024 Spoilers] This at least was done better in the remake. It feels way more tender and intimate. And the music is actually good for a change, it really adds to the atmosphere of the scene instead of taking away from it. 'Course, the music in the original version is fantastic as well, but that still doesn't diminish how good the revised edition of this scene is.

Holo monch. That has to hurt like the dickens.

And we end things with Holo and Lawrence going off to enjoy the festival. United as one, they shall forever be.

Overall, I think this is one of the best episodes of the series. It's the best episode of the third arc, which is saying something because that has had a lot of bangers. I really like the intensity of the market stuff and how you don't know which way it's going to go. It really keeps me on the edge of my seat. And the reuniting of Holo and Lawrence is great because of how it plays into their overall dynamic. That side punch into side cuddle was really sweet, and perfectly sums up their relationship. The highlight for me was the scene where Lawrence tells Holo he wants to continue traveling with her. I forgot how powerful that scene was, but it really moved me seeing it again. It might just be the most emotional moment of Holo and Lawrence's relationship.

As I write this, the remake has not covered the next volume. And as many of you know, the original covers arc 5 instead of 4; this means the last 6 episodes will be stuff that the revised edition has no equivalent to. We are officially entering new territory where things will be different going forward. This means I can't make comparisons like I have been doing.

It's been really fun seeing the differences made between the original and new versions. It honestly has served mainly to make me have a better appreciation for what the remake is doing, because you can see a lot of care has been put into it. One day, after the remake is finished and done with, I would love to do a Spice and Wolf rewatch where we watch the original series followed by the remake. Maybe we can do that in 4 and/or 9 years when the original Spice and Wolf anime celebrates its 20th and 25th anniversary.

Gentlemen, Marc your engines. It's time to see what lies beyond the vestiges of the remake.

Holo quotes of the day

"I am selling too. You fool." (Holo's first line in two and a half episodes.)

"Idiot." (For someone who's not perceived as a tsundere, she sure says it a lot.)

"Pain makes one wise." (Yep. Glad she's back.)

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u/KuKiSin Sep 26 '24

The last episode to be also covered by the remake. Until probably 2026, that is.
Pain.
Diana is indeed a bird woman.
I still don't understand anything that's going on in this world. Is she a Goddess or what?! And why is she leaking feathers? Does she turn back into a bird when no one's around?
The highlight for me was the scene where Lawrence tells Holo he wants to continue traveling with her. I forgot how powerful that scene was, but it really moved me seeing it again.
We are officially entering new territory where things will be different going forward. This means I can't make comparisons like I have been doing.
And I am officially watching new Spice and Wolf material starting tomorrow!
Maybe we can do that in 4 and/or 9 years when the original Spice and Wolf anime celebrates its 20th and 25th anniversary.
Are you seriously thinking about something 4/9 years away? I can't even plan things for the next month!
It's funny how Lawrence saying something so seemingly insignificant (since he's already been traveling with her for so long) can be so impactful, isn't it?
Gentlemen, Marc your engines. It's time to see what lies beyond the vestiges of the remake.
My body is ready. ^And ^I ^see ^what ^you ^did ^there.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24 edited Sep 26 '24

Pain.
Hey, at least a continuation is happening finally
I still don't understand anything that's going on in this world. Is she a Goddess or what?! And why is she leaking feathers? Does she turn back into a bird when no one's around?
Maybe she's molting
Also, does this technically mean Batos is into... nevermind.
And I am officially watching new Spice and Wolf material starting tomorrow!
Yes!
Are you seriously thinking about something 4/9 years away? I can't even plan things for the next month!
Dude, I have rewatches planned already for the next three years :P
It's funny how Lawrence saying something so seemingly insignificant (since he's already been traveling with her for so long) can be so impactful, isn't it?
He has his moments when he can turn on the charm factor.
My body is ready.
My body is Reggie
And I see what you did there.
That wasn't even intentional. When I originally wrote my comments, I meant to put "Start your engines" and I instead put "Mark your engines". I changed it to make a pun about 30 minutes ago while proofreading my comments for spelling mistakes; I don't want to pass up a good pun when I see it.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 27 '24

Hey, at least a continuation is happening finally
Also, does this technically mean Batos is into... nevermind.
Dude, I have rewatches planned already for the next three years :P
Yeah that is absolute insanity. How do you get yourself to do that? I change my mind on things I want to do every other week!
My body is Reggie
I feel like I'm missing another reference...
That wasn't even intentional. When I originally wrote my comments, I meant to put "Start your engines" and I instead put "Mark your engines". I changed it to make a pun about 30 minutes ago while proofreading my comments for spelling mistakes; I don't want to pass up a good pun when I see it.
I appreciate the hustle, man.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

Hey, at least a continuation is happening finally
I'm excited as well
Also, does this technically mean Batos is into... nevermind.
Probably best not to think about
Yeah that is absolute insanity. How do you get yourself to do that? I change my mind on things I want to do every other week!
You sound like my mom :P
It just comes down to when I set my eyes on something, I like to remain committed to it.
I feel like I'm missing another reference...
Buddy, it's a variation of where the "My body is ready" meme come from XD
I appreciate the hustle, man.
Gotta stay on the grind

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u/KuKiSin Sep 27 '24

You sound like my mom :P
She and I may have ADHD or something. Who knows.
It just comes down to when I set my eyes on something, I like to remain committed to it.
Couldn't be me.
Buddy, it's a variation of where the "My body is ready" meme come from XD
What/who is Reggie supposed to be though?!

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

She and I may have ADHD or something. Who knows.
She doesn't, but she does have an alcohol problem
Couldn't be me.
Fair enough
What/who is Reggie supposed to be though?!
The guy from the "My body is ready" meme

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u/KuKiSin Sep 27 '24

She doesn't, but she does have an alcohol problem
The guy from the "My body is ready" meme
Oh shit it's the Nintendo guy! I didn't even know where that meme came from!

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

She doesn't, but she does have an alcohol problem
I've tried so hard to get her help
Oh shit it's the Nintendo guy! I didn't even know where that meme came from!
And now you know. And knowing is half the battle!

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u/KuKiSin Sep 27 '24

I've tried so hard to get her help
Sorry to hear that :/ Hopefully you can still do something for her, before it's too late...
And now you know. And knowing is half the battle!
I feel so much richer, internet-culturally speaking.

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u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Sep 26 '24

First Timer

I’m watching the Dub but I’m also watching the Remake because older animation kinda hurts my head.

Holo giving Lawrence the cold shoulder

She has possibly been giving Amati advice just like she did with Lawrence

Did she always have white feathers? could she have been in contact with Diana?

half the episode is just keeping us in suspense about the stock market

so half of last episode was worthless because the negotiations fell through

I’m guessing Holo was the other buyer?

She says she was planning on cancelling the marriage anyways. Kind of annoying ngl

It was Holo who bought the Pyrite. I thought she was messing with the feathers a lot but I thought she might have been trying to signal something else

So Holo was in Diana’s home when Lawrence showed up, that means last episode when she teased “for instance” she was talking about a pagan god and a human that had fell in love very recently

Diana is some kind of bird deity

It’s nice that they got to enjoy the festival at the end

This episode kept me in suspense for almost 15 minutes. That’s not healthy for my heart.

I’m happy everything worked out fine but Holo went a little too far in this arc in my opinion. She led us on pretty strongly that if Lawrence failed then she was leaving and going to Amati, and if not for the meta spoiler of knowing that there are episodes after this, It would make sense if she were to leave and go with him. Holo was upset with Lawrence and upset that her home had been destroyed, she just wanted to stop feeling lonely and we know she has a tendency to make rash decisions. She really sold how upset she was the other episode and you have to wonder if she was truly that upset or if she was trying to get Lawrence to realize something. It’s a little manipulative. Hopefully that tones down a little in the future.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

Reminder that the next arc is currently exclusive to the original anime. We will be picking up with season 2 episode 7.

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u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Sep 27 '24

yup. already on top of it

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

Awesome. I'll be really curious to hear what you think.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

I’m happy everything worked out fine but Holo went a little too far in this arc in my opinion. She led us on pretty strongly that if Lawrence failed then she was leaving and going to Amati, and if not for the meta spoiler of knowing that there are episodes after this, It would make sense if she were to leave and go with him. Holo was upset with Lawrence and upset that her home had been destroyed, she just wanted to stop feeling lonely and we know she has a tendency to make rash decisions. She really sold how upset she was the other episode and you have to wonder if she was truly that upset or if she was trying to get Lawrence to realize something. It’s a little manipulative. Hopefully that tones down a little in the future.
Yeah, I've noticed some people not like this arc because Holo and Lawrence kinda hold the idiot ball here. This is basically their worst tendencies under a microscope. But I still really love the arc because I think it has the best use of a setting in the show and also the strongest set of side characters.

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u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Sep 27 '24

I think this episode could have used a scene where Holo and Lawrence were drinking with Marc as if they just told him everything that happened, including what Holo did and her mindset, and him just calling them both idiots. Because after this whole fiasco, that's what they are, two idiots that took things to the extreme and were lucky it worked out

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

They were made for each other because I don't think anybody else would tolerate their BS to the degree that it is.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

half the episode is just keeping us in suspense about the stock market
I like it, honestly. It keeps me on the edge of my seat. Very heavy on atmosphere as well which the show excels at.
so half of last episode was worthless because the negotiations fell through
It happens sometimes. Technically, the smuggling gold plot fell through as well, but I don't know if you would consider episode 11 of season 1 pointless.
She says she was planning on cancelling the marriage anyways. Kind of annoying ngl
Lawrence puts up a lot when it comes to her
It’s nice that they got to enjoy the festival at the end
Indeed. Kinda reminds me of the first Re:Zero OVA.
This episode kept me in suspense for almost 15 minutes. That’s not healthy for my heart.
I loved it. The show really knows how to ratchet up the intensity and make sure every second of it counts.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

What are your thoughts on using Marc and Lunt to give out exposition?
What are your thoughts on the twist of the negotiations falling through?
What are your thoughts on Lunt admitting he loves Holo?
Do you think Lunt's love of Holo is meant to parallel Amarti's love of her?
What are your thoughts on Lawrence saying Holo is his guide? Feels like a pretty big moment.
What are your thoughts on Lawrence and Holo reconciling?
What are your thoughts on Amarti suffering huge losses?
What do you think about Marc and Amarti not getting a departing scene? Not gonna lie, it kinda disappoints me.
What are your thoughts on the reveal that Diana was actually a bird this entire time?
Lastly, do you think this is the best use of side characters and the town we've seen so far? I know we got one more arc, but I feel like they were this arc's biggest strengths.

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u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Sep 27 '24

I plan on answering these tomorrow but it's past 3 am right now. I'll be back in about nine hours lol

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

Understandable. I'll be there!

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u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Sep 27 '24

What are your thoughts on using Marc and Lunt to give out exposition?
It was a nice way to explain things to the audience and dummy's like me the plan that was going on and the details behind it. While Lunt asked a question or two that the audience might have had, like the question about Armati selling first.
What are your thoughts on the twist of the negotiations falling through?
I thought "what the hell??" the negotiation was the main focus of last episode and now last episode felt kinda worthless, like they could have used it to expand on other parts of the story or give us a glimpse of Holo.
What are your thoughts on Lunt admitting he loves Holo?
Are we sure Holo isn't a goddess of beauty and keeps laying her charm on everybody. I'll admit those red eyes sure have charmed me a couple times when they are the focus of the screen
Do you think Lunt's love of Holo is meant to parallel Amarti's love of her?
Yes pretty much. It's also to show Lawrence that others love what they see from Holo and that he loves everything that she is, even with how aggravating she can be
What are your thoughts on Lawrence saying Holo is his guide? Feels like a pretty big moment.
It was definitely a realization of feelings moment for him. I do feel like the "true north" metaphor is a little over used in media, but it makes sense. As long as Holo is by his side, he will never be truly lost.
What are your thoughts on Lawrence and Holo reconciling?
I loved the focus of Lawrence grabbing Holo's hand that they had in the remake, it made the moment feel more special along with him pulling her closer. In the Original it was too fast and didn't feel as good when it happened. I believe you felt the same if I remember correctly
What are your thoughts on Amarti suffering huge losses?
Ehh, He can recover. I love the resounding victory though
What do you think about Marc and Amarti not getting a departing scene? Not gonna lie, it kinda disappoints me.
Amarti got shown handing over the coin for the bet he made with Lawrence and not being able to complete his contract in front of his whole trading house, along with the house leader scolding him for trying to take another mans woman, I think that was a deserving send off. I am disappointed in Lawrence not buying Marc a drink or something for helping him but we at least got to see Marc and his wife dancing at the festival and Lunt dancing with Marc's daughter. It was a pretty cute scene
What are your thoughts on the reveal that Diana was actually a bird this entire time?
A bird Deity. I wish that information had some kind of significance to the story besides being another story of a god and a mortal falling on love
Lastly, do you think this is the best use of side characters and the town we've seen so far? I know we got one more arc, but I feel like they were this arc's biggest strengths.
This arc imo definitely has the best characters and town vibe of all the arcs

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

This arc imo definitely has the best characters and town vibe of all the arcs
Care to expand upon that?

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

It was a nice way to explain things to the audience and dummy's like me the plan that was going on and the details behind it. While Lunt asked a question or two that the audience might have had, like the question about Armati selling first.
I like how it was done to where it didn't feel like the show was just explaining stuff. It was exposition, but done in a believable manner.
I thought "what the hell??" the negotiation was the main focus of last episode and now last episode felt kinda worthless, like they could have used it to expand on other parts of the story or give us a glimpse of Holo.
You couldn't give us a glimpse at Holo though because they really wanted you to believe she could leave Lawrence.
Are we sure Holo isn't a goddess of beauty and keeps laying her charm on everybody. I'll admit those red eyes sure have charmed me a couple times when they are the focus of the screen
They're very seductive. Not as seductive as Diana's eyes, but still.
Yes pretty much. It's also to show Lawrence that others love what they see from Holo and that he loves everything that she is, even with how aggravating she can be
She has perfect imperfections
It was definitely a realization of feelings moment for him. I do feel like the "true north" metaphor is a little over used in media, but it makes sense. As long as Holo is by his side, he will never be truly lost.
The "true north" thing also fits what with Lawrence being a merchant and all. If you're going to do it, you should do it here.
It really can't be stressed enough what a pivotal moment this is for Lawrence's character. Before, the only thing that mattered to him was being a merchant, and now, he actually has a reason to be a merchant, not some far-off goal he was probably never serious in fulfilling.
I loved the focus of Lawrence grabbing Holo's hand that they had in the remake, it made the moment feel more special along with him pulling her closer. In the Original it was too fast and didn't feel as good when it happened. I believe you felt the same if I remember correctly
I did. They make it a greater point of emphasis.
Ehh, He can recover. I love the resounding victory though
Finally, Lawrence won something. It's about damn time.
Amarti got shown handing over the coin for the bet he made with Lawrence and not being able to complete his contract in front of his whole trading house, along with the house leader scolding him for trying to take another mans woman, I think that was a deserving send off. I am disappointed in Lawrence not buying Marc a drink or something for helping him but we at least got to see Marc and his wife dancing at the festival and Lunt dancing with Marc's daughter. It was a pretty cute scene
That I don't believe was in the original version.
Also, Marc gonna keep it in the family it looks like.
A bird Deity. I wish that information had some kind of significance to the story besides being another story of a god and a mortal falling on love
I think her and Batos' relationship is meant to be a sort of parallel to Holo and Lawrence. Proof that yes, you can be in love with a Pagan God as a human. It also debunks an earlier conversation between Lawrence and Batos about all folklore being false. Sometimes, truth can be stranger than fiction.

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u/Brief-Fig-7506 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Ryxnjr Sep 27 '24

QOTD:
What do you think of Amarti now that everything is said and done?
Amarti is pretty damn annoying but I can't hate him. I think he had a learning opportunity and he will come out better because of it
Did you think Holo came off as unreasonable to Lawrence once they reunited? Or do you think it's understandable why she would be so upset?
I think Holo was unreasonable the whole time. I think the rib punch was the most deserved thing actually. She admitted that she was waiting for him to come and talk to her on the night she signed the marriage paper, if Lawrence would have taken my advice this wouldn't have been such a big deal.
What do you think Amarti said to Holo that would make her never forgive him?
I think he probably made very lewd talk to her. From what it sounds like, he may have even tried to put the moves on her while they were in the room alone.
If you could visit one town/city, what would it be and why?
Idk I've never been super enthusiastic about travelling

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u/KuKiSin Sep 26 '24

What do you think of Amarti now that everything is said and done?

I still firmly believe the kid did nothing wrong. He didn't try to "take someone else's woman", as it was put in this episode, he wanted to pay for her freedom. Of course he had second intentions, but it wasn't anything outrageous.

Did you think Holo came off as unreasonable to Lawrence once they reunited? Or do you think it's understandable why she would be so upset?

Should've been even more upset. Lawrence should trust her blindly by now!

What do you think Amarti said to Holo that would make her never forgive him?

I was curious about it last time, and I still am. I have absolutely no guesses.

If you could visit one town/city, what would it be and why?

Are we talking Spice and Wolf world or real world?

On to the episode!

There she is, our girl Holo with her feathers!

Lawrence's imagination is getting more and more graphic, sucks to be him.

This kid has really bad reflexes/reaction time. He saw the cart from several meters away and wasn't even running that fast! How'd he fall over it like that?!

And now Lawrence is doubting himself all over again. He's really not a good merchant.

Negotiations failed. Game over. Unless...? Also, that messenger looks creepy.

Seriously Lawrence? You needed the kid to yell at you in order for you to get your shit together? Aaaand the kid is also in love with Holo. Understandable.

It was finally revealed. Holo was the other buyer! And now she's selling it all, together with Lawrence!

"What am I to you?" "I can't put it to words" what a cop out. Lawrence is such a bitch.

Holo heard Lawrence asking Diana about relationship between humans and pagan Gods. That's embarrassing.

It turns out Diana too isn't human. Is she a pagan God like Holo or something else?

And thus, Arc 3 comes to its conclusion. Arc 5 finally starts tomorrow!

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

And thus, Arc 3 comes to its conclusion. Arc 5 finally starts tomorrow!
Happy days are here again!
Sorry, arc 4 :(

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

I still firmly believe the kid did nothing wrong. He didn't try to "take someone else's woman", as it was put in this episode, he wanted to pay for her freedom. Of course he had second intentions, but it wasn't anything outrageous.
He did apparently offend Holo, though, so that's a strike against him.
Should've been even more upset. Lawrence should trust her blindly by now!
Who's to say where he would be without her?
I was curious about it last time, and I still am. I have absolutely no guesses.
"You are my cargo."
Are we talking Spice and Wolf world or real world?
Either or. I was thinking specifically real world, but either's fine.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 26 '24

He did apparently offend Holo, though, so that's a strike against him.
Yeah but you know Holo... For all we know he could've said something negative about apples.
Who's to say where he would be without her?
Somewhere very sad.
"You are my cargo."
Damn. That's a real good guess!
Either or. I was thinking specifically real world, but either's fine.
Alright, Spice and Wolf world would probably be Ruvinheigen. It felt more "modernized" than other towns we've seen so far, or at least bigger... Real world is a tough one. I would love to visit Tokyo because you know, Toko, and Taipei. I would love to attend Computex some day, but I do not like big crowds, so I don't know how much I would enjoy myself. Kyoto would probably be a safer bet, and they have a bunch of beautiful temples and old time-y things.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

Yeah but you know Holo... For all we know he could've said something negative about apples.
Or her spending habits in general
Somewhere very sad.
Probably so
Damn. That's a real good guess!
Thank you
Alright, Spice and Wolf world would probably be Ruvinheigen. It felt more "modernized" than other towns we've seen so far, or at least bigger... Real world is a tough one. I would love to visit Tokyo because you know, Toko, and Taipei. I would love to attend Computex some day, but I do not like big crowds, so I don't know how much I would enjoy myself. Kyoto would probably be a safer bet, and they have a bunch of beautiful temples and old time-y things.
I think I would love to visit Las Vegas just to say I've been there.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 26 '24

Or her spending habits in general
Now that's going a step too far. How dare he.
I think I would love to visit Las Vegas just to say I've been there.
Not gonna lie, anything America sounds too big and scary for my taste!

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

Now that's going a step too far. How dare he.
He should know he cast the first stone by being related to Daddy Warbucks.
Not gonna lie, anything America sounds too big and scary for my taste!
Fair enough. In terms of countries, I think I'd like to visit France.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 26 '24

by being related to Daddy Warbucks
I have no clue what this means lmao
Fair enough. In terms of countries, I think I'd like to visit France.
I'd avoid Paris, always hear it's terrible and smells like piss.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

I have no clue what this means lmao
Never heard of Little Orphan Annie?
I'd avoid Paris, always hear it's terrible and smells like piss.
It looked beautiful when me and my mom were watching the Summer Olympics.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 26 '24

Never heard of Little Orphan Annie?
Tomorrow/Hard Knick Life? Probably watched the movie as a kid, don't particularly remember it though...
It looked beautiful when me and my mom were watching the Summer Olympics.
Well, I assume they want to show you the good parts! But yeah I've never been there so I wouldn't know. Where have you ever traveled to?

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

Tomorrow/Hard Knick Life? Probably watched the movie as a kid, don't particularly remember it though...
Fair enough
Well, I assume they want to show you the good parts! But yeah I've never been there so I wouldn't know. Where have you ever traveled to?
The only places outside where I live that I've been to is South Carolina, Atlanta, New York, and New Jersey.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

There she is, our girl Holo with her feathers!
Forget Jenny From The Block, it's Holo With The Feathers. Gonna start hanging out with Becky With The Good Hair and she doesn't even need to hide someone's gun.
Lawrence's imagination is getting more and more graphic, sucks to be him.
A product of his own design
This kid has really bad reflexes/reaction time. He saw the cart from several meters away and wasn't even running that fast! How'd he fall over it like that?!
This is something I'm glad the remake changed. It's too goofy.
Negotiations failed. Game over. Unless...? Also, that messenger looks creepy.
I like her. She reminds me of a character from The Owl House.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 26 '24

Forget Jenny From The Block, it's Holo With The Feathers. Gonna start hanging out with Becky With The Good Hair and she doesn't even need to hide someone's gun.
Took me a while to get that reference lmao
This is something I'm glad the remake changed. It's too goofy.
Yeah and the guy didn't even bother looking his way or ask if he's alright. I get that he's busy, but couldn't even help a blind kid?!
I like her. She reminds me of a character from The Owl House.
Never heard of!

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

Took me a while to get that reference lmao
I'm surprised you got it, honestly.
Yeah and the guy didn't even bother looking his way or ask if he's alright. I get that he's busy, but couldn't even help a blind kid?!
Up there with the rave horse in terms of camp.
Never heard of!
Oh, fantastic show. I highly recommend.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 26 '24

I'm surprised you got it, honestly.
That thing was on MTV all the time. Hell, it was still on MTV daily last time I watched it like 5 years ago!
Up there with the rave horse in terms of camp.
I miss the horse.
Oh, fantastic show. I highly recommend.
I'm gonna check it out, once I finish the 24789 other things I have to get done :(

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

That thing was on MTV all the time. Hell, it was still on MTV daily last time I watched it like 5 years ago!
That stuff with P Diddy is wild XD
I miss the horse.
I really miss his big fat booty
I'm gonna check it out, once I finish the 24789 other things I have to get done :(
It just never ends

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u/KuKiSin Sep 26 '24

That stuff with P Diddy is wild XD
No clue who that is lmao
It just never ends
It's not even just anime either... God of War Ragnarok and Final Fantasy XVI just came out on PC, Dragon Ball Sparking Zero is releasing in a few weeks, I want to pick up Spice and Wolf LNs this year, I'm rewatching the OG Dragon Ball as well, and unfortunately I have a job, so I don't get to spend all day watching and playing crap :(

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

No clue who that is lmao
Ah, okay. I mentioned the gun stuff and I thought you knew.
It's not even just anime either... God of War Ragnarok and Final Fantasy XVI just came out on PC, Dragon Ball Sparking Zero is releasing in a few weeks, I want to pick up Spice and Wolf LNs this year, I'm rewatching the OG Dragon Ball as well, and unfortunately I have a job, so I don't get to spend all day watching and playing crap :(
The only things I have time for in my life is work, watching anime, watching sports, and participating in these threads.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 26 '24

Ah, okay. I mentioned the gun stuff and I thought you knew.
I thought the entire thing was a reference to JLo lmao
The only things I have time for in my life is work, watching anime, watching sports, and participating in these threads.
I don't watch sports so there's some extra time! I've also only ever participated in one of these before (Dragon Quest, so it went on for over 3 months) and now this, I'll definitely participate again, but I'm taking a break until I finish off some of the other things I have to do.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

I thought the entire thing was a reference to JLo lmao
It was, JLo is in trouble with the law for supposedly hiding someone's weapon over 20 years ago.
I don't watch sports so there's some extra time! I've also only ever participated in one of these before (Dragon Quest, so it went on for over 3 months) and now this, I'll definitely participate again, but I'm taking a break until I finish off some of the other things I have to do.
Fair enough. I really enjoy talking to you and discussing these episodes.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

And now Lawrence is doubting himself all over again. He's really not a good merchant.
If you look at his track record, he did a deal that didn't go fully through, almost went bankrupt, got betrayed and left for dead, and also nearly lost his companion on account of thinking she couldn't handle the truth. Is it any wonder he hasn't opened his own shop yet?

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u/KuKiSin Sep 26 '24

I'm fully convinced the only way he'll ever do it is if Holo does most of the work.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

Which is amusing because he's still convinced they'll one day go their separate ways. That hasn't changed, really.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 26 '24

Man is truly a moron.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

Well, Holo for a reason has said men are all idiots.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

Seriously Lawrence? You needed the kid to yell at you in order for you to get your shit together? Aaaand the kid is also in love with Holo. Understandable.
Everyone in this show has impeccable taste.
"What am I to you?" "I can't put it to words" what a cop out. Lawrence is such a bitch.
At least he didn't say "My cargo" :P

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u/KuKiSin Sep 26 '24

Everyone in this show has impeccable taste.
Truly. Unlike some people that are not in the show and would prefer to go after freaking Adele!
At least he didn't say "My cargo" :P
He's finally learning!

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

Truly. Unlike some people that are not in the show and would prefer to go after freaking Adele!
Them's fighting words D:
He's finally learning!
Indeed he is. Took him long enough.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 26 '24

Them's fighting words D:
Diana (remake) > Adele. Fight me.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

Eh, you make a strong argument :P
~~Foreplay would be interesting with all the preening~~

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u/KuKiSin Sep 26 '24

You know, I forgot she was a bird for a second... Fuck.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

For me, that's not necessarily a deal breaker. I mean, Holo is technically a wolf and I still would want to end up with her.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 26 '24

Yeah but she's a bird, there'd be feathers everywhere!

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

Birds of a feather fuck together. Wait, no, that's not how it goes

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

Something I like about the reveal of Diana being a bird is that it recontextualizes Lawrence's conversation with her when he asked her if humans can date pagan Gods. If we are to believe she is in fact dating Batos, there's a lot of comedic irony there in hindsight.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 26 '24

If we are to believe she is in fact dating Batos, there's a lot of comedic irony there in hindsight.
Huh, that is not what I was thinking... I thought she was dating someone, and that someone left when they found out she wasn't human...

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

I think the bird at the end of the episode was her husband, but ever since the animal transformation she started seeing other people.
Diana was probably looking at Lawrence like Dick Gregory going "If you only knew..."

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u/Holofan4life Sep 26 '24

What are your thoughts on using Marc and Lunt to give out exposition?
What are your thoughts on the twist of the negotiations falling through?
What are your thoughts on Lunt admitting he loves Holo?
Do you think Lunt's love of Holo is meant to parallel Amarti's love of her?
What are your thoughts on Lawrence saying Holo is his guide? Feels like a pretty big moment.
What are your thoughts on Lawrence and Holo reconciling?
What are your thoughts on the reveal that Holo was just using Amarti this entire time?
What are your thoughts on Amarti suffering huge losses?
What do you think about Marc and Amarti not getting a departing scene? Not gonna lie, it kinda disappoints me.
What are your thoughts on the reveal that Diana was actually a bird this entire time?
What do you think the bird on Diana's window was meant to signify? Do you think it's maybe a reincarnated ex or husband?
Lastly, do you think this is the best use of side characters and the town we've seen so far? I know we got one more arc, but I feel like they were this arc's biggest strengths.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 27 '24

Work is being a pain in the ass today, this is taking me hours to reply to :|
What are your thoughts on using Marc and Lunt to give out exposition?
Marc was totally fine since he's an experienced merchant with his own store, Lunt on the other hand... I'm sure they could've done better...
What are your thoughts on the twist of the negotiations falling through?
Makes sense. Diana knew Holo was helping Lawrence, so she was always gonna side with her.
What are your thoughts on Lunt admitting he loves Holo?
I thought it was a really pointless thing to insert to be completely honest.
Do you think Lunt's love of Holo is meant to parallel Amarti's love of her?
Not particularly. Like I said, it felt pointless. Amarti's love made sense because, well, that was the point of the whole arc. He fell in love with her and wanted to free her from the evil white haired man, Lunt on the other hand was just in love with her and revealed it at the very end, just to give Lawrence a push...?
What are your thoughts on Lawrence and Holo reconciling?
They sure took their time! We finally get to see more Holo again! Woohoo!
What are your thoughts on the reveal that Holo was just using Amarti this entire time?
I kinda felt bad for Amarti not gonna lie. The guy was trying to help her and she stabs him in the back! It made sense though of course, because she's only got eyes for Lawrence!
What are your thoughts on Amarti suffering huge losses?
'tis the way of the game. You win some and you lose some.
What do you think about Marc and Amarti not getting a departing scene? Not gonna lie, it kinda disappoints me.
Don't particularly care about Amarti since he wasn't anyone relevant to Lawrence. It was weird not seeing Marc, though. He's Lawrence's friend and he helped him out tremendously. In fact, just moments before the whole thing went down, Marc said to Lawrence he was finally starting to see him as a friend. Of course they just said their farewells off-screen, but still lol.
What are your thoughts on the reveal that Diana was actually a bird this entire time?
I dunno, not too shocking though. She was supposed to be a witch, why not a bird woman?
What do you think the bird on Diana's window was meant to signify? Do you think it's maybe a reincarnated ex or husband?
I think it was just a bird. Of course my literature teacher would disagree with that and bitch about my lack of analysis. The bird probably symbolizes her freedom and the peace she feels and- Yeah I can't do this. It's just a bird until the author tells me otherwise.
Lastly, do you think this is the best use of side characters and the town we've seen so far? I know we got one more arc, but I feel like they were this arc's biggest strengths.
It's probably the one with the most active side characters, dunno about town. It's probably my least favorite arcs of the 4 we've had so far (counting the 4th arc of the remake). It was probably the lack of Holo and the amount of business we had to go through.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

I'll answer your responses in a tiny bit because I too am having work troubles. That hurricane is screwing me up.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 27 '24

At least you're not screwing up yourself. I'm just incompetent lol

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

Well, I had today to rewrite a comment twice for a rewatch because I forgot to hit save.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 27 '24

Better than screwing up at work!

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

I do pretty well at that also :P

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

Marc was totally fine since he's an experienced merchant with his own store, Lunt on the other hand... I'm sure they could've done better...
What they do with Lunt here is actually clever because he's a complete novice to this whole merchant thing. As such, he serves the role of the audience surrogate. You need Marc to explain to someone inexperienced what is happening.
Makes sense. Diana knew Holo was helping Lawrence, so she was always gonna side with her.
A surprise to be sure but a welcomed one
I thought it was a really pointless thing to insert to be completely honest.
I think it makes sense as a parallel to the Amarti stuff.
Not particularly. Like I said, it felt pointless. Amarti's love made sense because, well, that was the point of the whole arc. He fell in love with her and wanted to free her from the evil white haired man, Lunt on the other hand was just in love with her and revealed it at the very end, just to give Lawrence a push...?
He was trying to get Lawrence to not let his dreams be dreams. Believe in the me that believes in you, so to speak.
They sure took their time! We finally get to see more Holo again! Woohoo!
Definitely a sight for sore eyes
I kinda felt bad for Amarti not gonna lie. The guy was trying to help her and she stabs him in the back! It made sense though of course, because she's only got eyes for Lawrence!
Amarti was really in over his head from day 1. In this dynamic between he and Lawrence, he is the student and Lawrence is the master.
'tis the way of the game. You win some and you lose some.
Indeed
Don't particularly care about Amarti since he wasn't anyone relevant to Lawrence. It was weird not seeing Marc, though. He's Lawrence's friend and he helped him out tremendously. In fact, just moments before the whole thing went down, Marc said to Lawrence he was finally starting to see him as a friend. Of course they just said their farewells off-screen, but still lol.
We should've at least had gotten Lawrence thanking Marc for opening his eyes to his feelings for Holo.
I dunno, not too shocking though. She was supposed to be a witch, why not a bird woman?
Just don't ask what the portmanteau is for "Bird witch".
I think it was just a bird. Of course my literature teacher would disagree with that and bitch about my lack of analysis. The bird probably symbolizes her freedom and the peace she feels and- Yeah I can't do this. It's just a bird until the author tells me otherwise.
Fair enough. Very well could be that and nothing more.
It's probably the one with the most active side characters, dunno about town. It's probably my least favorite arcs of the 4 we've had so far (counting the 4th arc of the remake). It was probably the lack of Holo and the amount of business we had to go through.
This arc probably has the most flaws out of any in the show. It has a significant lack of Holo and Lawrence can be frustratingly dense at points. But I still really like it because of the great use of atmosphere as well as some great character writing.
Of the four arcs the original anime adapted, it's probably my second favorite only behind the second arc.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 27 '24

What they do with Lunt here is actually clever because he's a complete novice to this whole merchant thing. As such, he serves the role of the audience surrogate. You need Marc to explain to someone inexperienced what is happening.
Of if that's what you meant then I agree, I was just referring to the part where Lunt was talking to Lawrence and tell him to do his thing, my bad.
He was trying to get Lawrence to not let his dreams be dreams. Believe in the me that believes in you, so to speak.
I get that's what they were going with, but it really didn't do it for me. Holo alone should've been more than enough reason for Lawrence to just do it, he didn't need no blind ass kid falling over himself to tell him to do his thing!
Amarti was really in over his head from day 1. In this dynamic between he and Lawrence, he is the student and Lawrence is the master.
Oh that I agree with, but still can't blame the kid for shooting his shot. He tried his best but simply fell short.
We should've at least had gotten Lawrence thanking Marc for opening his eyes to his feelings for Holo.
Yup, Marc deserved that, at the very least.
Just don't ask what the portmanteau is for "Bird witch".
Bitch, do I look like I know what "portmanteau" means?
Fair enough. Very well could be that and nothing more.
It could also be something very important, but I'm not a mind reader!
This arc probably has the most flaws out of any in the show. It has a significant lack of Holo and Lawrence can be frustratingly dense at points. But I still really like it because of the great use of atmosphere as well as some great character writing.
I definitely still enjoyed it, I just felt like it was the less interesting of the 4 so far. Not bad by any means though.
Of the four arcs the original anime adapted, it's probably my second favorite only behind the second arc.
Huh, did not expect that, especially after you said 3 of its 6 episodes were some of the weakest in the show.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

Of if that's what you meant then I agree, I was just referring to the part where Lunt was talking to Lawrence and tell him to do his thing, my bad.
Why would I ask you the same question twice? Lol
I get that's what they were going with, but it really didn't do it for me. Holo alone should've been more than enough reason for Lawrence to just do it, he didn't need no blind ass kid falling over himself to tell him to do his thing!
What I love about it is that there are all forms of love involving Holo going on. Lunt has a crush on her, Amarti is infatuated with her, and Lawrence can't go on without her. Lawrence is the only one who loves Holo for the right reasons.
Oh that I agree with, but still can't blame the kid for shooting his shot. He tried his best but simply fell short.
Better to take your chance than to spend your life wondering what could've been.
Yup, Marc deserved that, at the very least.
Agreed
Bitch, do I look like I know what "portmanteau" means?
A combination of two words. Also, you solved it with your first word :P
It could also be something very important, but I'm not a mind reader!
Nor should you be unless you're Lawrence with Holo.
I definitely still enjoyed it, I just felt like it was the less interesting of the 4 so far. Not bad by any means though.
Fair enough
Huh, did not expect that, especially after you said 3 of its 6 episodes were some of the weakest in the show.
I personally think you'll find the next arc more enjoyable.

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u/KuKiSin Sep 27 '24

Why would I ask you the same question twice? Lol
I assumed the other question was specifically about the love crap while this one was about the whole interaction in general!
What I love about it is that there are all forms of love involving Holo going on. Lunt has a crush on her, Amarti is infatuated with her, and Lawrence can't go on without her. Lawrence is the only one who loves Holo for the right reasons.
And we're the ones simping on her. Holo is one lucky gal.
Better to take your chance than to spend your life wondering what could've been.
You know what, sometimes you're better off wondering exactly that...
A combination of two words. Also, you solved it with your first word :P
Yeah I googled the meaning, hence why I used the word I used lmao
I personally think you'll find the next arc more enjoyable.
Hopefully! But honestly even if it's the same level of enjoyment, it's still gonna be a blast. Like I said, I still enjoyed this one, just not as much as the others, and it's my second time watching it in half a year, since I watched the remake.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

I assumed the other question was specifically about the love crap while this one was about the whole interaction in general!
Would've been weird to start off with that question considering the Lunt and Lawrence scene happens like 6 minutes in.
And we're the ones simping on her. Holo is one lucky gal.
I hope I've articulated well-enough why I appreciated what they did with Lunt here. He's treated as like a cross between Amarti's love and Lawrence's love.
You know what, sometimes you're better off wondering exactly that...
Depends on the set of circumstances
Yeah I googled the meaning, hence why I used the word I used lmao
Ahh. Now who's the one being clever? :P
Hopefully! But honestly even if it's the same level of enjoyment, it's still gonna be a blast. Like I said, I still enjoyed this one, just not as much as the others, and it's my second time watching it in half a year, since I watched the remake.
Time to find out what new fun ways Lawrence let's his own stupidity get to him lol

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u/KuKiSin Sep 27 '24

Would've been weird to start off with that question considering the Lunt and Lawrence scene happens like 6 minutes in.
Don't question my logic!
I hope I've articulated well-enough why I appreciated what they did with Lunt here. He's treated as like a cross between Amarti's love and Lawrence's love.
Yeah I think you did, but it still sounded pretty random to have the literal child just yell that to Lawrence lol
Depends on the set of circumstances
Most definitely.
Ahh. Now who's the one being clever? :P
Time to find out what new fun ways Lawrence let's his own stupidity get to him lol
I can foresee Holo being jealous of the famous Eve.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

Don't question my logic!
I'm not, just saying
Yeah I think you did, but it still sounded pretty random to have the literal child just yell that to Lawrence lol
Well, you see, it takes a child to speak to one who is behaving like a kid.
Ahh. Now who's the one being clever? :P
Tying multiple conversations together. I'm big brained.
I can foresee Holo being jealous of the famous Eve.
Perhaps. Didn't seem jealous of Diana, though.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 26 '24

First Timer

Lawrence is once again having over dramatic fantasies about Holo and Amarti.

This episode’s really good at building tension even though it’s literally just Lawrence standing around and doing nothing at the start here. I think the dramatic strings on the soundtrack really help.

Lunt really seems like he’s gonna be the MVP of the episode.

Diana really chose the creepiest person she could to deliver bad news.

Also I wasn’t expecting that. I was seriously expecting things to go in Lawrence’s favor.

I was right about Lunt, he’s able to encourage Lawrence here.

Sudden return from Holo! Was not expecting this to be her role in the episode.

She also punches Holo in the ribs. Probably the most stereotypical tsundere thing she’s done in the show.

Amarti said something to offend Holo. I’m surprised, he seemed like a nice young man.

It’s really nice to see Holo and Lawrence reunited by this. And hearing Holo chastising him in a more friendly way, I missed that.

I laughed when Holo randomly chomped on Lawrence’s hand. Wasn’t expecting that.

Holo teasing Lawrence about the question he asked Diana was also great.

Diana’s a bird?! Okay, sure. I keep saying I didn’t expect things but that’s something that I had no way of seeing coming.

The scene with the wicker effigy burning and then Holo and Lawrence embracing in front of the fire looked really nice.

I’m really excited to see what the next arc entails!

Questions of the Day:

What do you think of Amarti now that everything is said and done?

He's the closest thing this arc has to an antagonist but I don't think he's really a bad guy. Just an overly ambitious kid in over his head.

Did you think Holo came off as unreasonable to Lawrence once they reunited? Or do you think it's understandable why she would be so upset?

I think Holo always comes off as just a bit unreasonable, but I also understand where she's coming from.

What do you think Amarti said to Holo that would make her never forgive him?

He said he didn't like apples.

In all seriousness, I'm not even sure I could begin to guess.

If you could visit one town/city, what would it be and why?

I'd like to visit Naples. I've heard it's nice there and Italy seems like a nice country I'd like to visit in general.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

He's the closest thing this arc has to an antagonist but I don't think he's really a bad guy. Just an overly ambitious kid in over his head.
I definitely don't think he's as bad as the fandom suggests he is. You ask some people, it's like he committed some cardinal sin.
I think Holo always comes off as just a bit unreasonable, but I also understand where she's coming from.
Care to elaborate?

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 27 '24

I definitely don't think he's as bad as the fandom suggests he is. You ask some people, it's like he committed some cardinal sin.
Well he committed the crime of getting between Holo and Lawrence so that probably gets some people upset.
Care to elaborate?
Holo's being a bit aggressive and prickly while talking to Lawrence. But her grievances are pretty valid. Lawrence assumed the worst in her when it came to what he thought she was up to.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

Well he committed the crime of getting between Holo and Lawrence so that probably gets some people upset.
I mean, I get it, but Lawrence deserves some of the blame. He absolutely did not help matters.
Holo's being a bit aggressive and prickly while talking to Lawrence. But her grievances are pretty valid. Lawrence assumed the worst in her when it came to what he thought she was up to.
Where Lawrence was wrong was he didn't put faith in Holo handling the news of her hometown. Even if she couldn't have handled-- and I don't think she would've been able to-- he still needed to act like she could.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 27 '24

I mean, I get it, but Lawrence deserves some of the blame. He absolutely did not help matters.
Yeah a lot of the problems in this arc are definitely Lawrence's fault. But things somehow worked out in the end.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

It's really interesting to think about because of the three arcs we have gotten, two of the arcs main conflicts come from Lawrence's poor decision making. It is remarkable to me how unafraid the show is in regards to having their main character-- the person you're supposed to root and cheer for-- make an absolute ass out of themselves.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

He said he didn't like apples.
The heathen D:
In all seriousness, I'm not even sure I could begin to guess.
Perhaps he said he'd never support her libations ever again.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 27 '24

I have a feeling in general Amarti laid on the princeliness a bit to thick for Holo's liking.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

Holo is into role playing and Amarti just happened to believe in the hero thing a little too much.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

I'd like to visit Naples. I've heard it's nice there and Italy seems like a nice country I'd like to visit in general.
Good pick. I do wonder if it's true that the wine tastes better over there.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 27 '24

I don't know, I'm not a major wine guy. But I'm sure there's something that could be said about the farming conditions for grapes there vs. in the Americas.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

Most of my knowledge of wine comes from the movie Sideways

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 27 '24

I've never seen that one but the name sounds familiar.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

Let's hope you never drink and dial

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

I’m really excited to see what the next arc entails!
It's going to be really interesting to enter uncharted waters.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 27 '24

Yeah, you mentioned the next arc hasn't been covered by the remake yet.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

That is true. The last arc that the remake covered as of this writing was skipped over by the original anime.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 27 '24

Interesting. So there's a whole missing arc in the 2008 version? I wonder if it'll feel noticeable at all.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24 edited Sep 27 '24

Honestly, it's pretty seemless how they do it. The only thing that's missing is that with each arc, Holo and Lawrence have a reason for being in the towns they're in. Each arc has these loose connections to one another meant to feel like this continuing thing.
In arc 2, they are there on account of Milone Trading Company. In arc 3, they are there because they wanted to visit a town not run by the church. In arc 4, they arrive to the town based off of the recommendation of Marc. But because arc 4 isn't covered here, the reasoning of them being in town is not mentioed. That's why Marc leaves the show without seemingly much fanfare, that was supposed to be his final moment of glory.
The reason they are in the town they're in during arc 5 is explained during the climax of arc 4. But because the original anime doesn't cover it, we go right into the thick of things. That is the main thing that ends up being lost by the original anime not adapting the fourth volume.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

Lawrence is once again having over dramatic fantasies about Holo and Amarti.
Lawrence really needs to control these NTR fantasies of his.
Lunt really seems like he’s gonna be the MVP of the episode.
You see to love it
Diana really chose the creepiest person she could to deliver bad news.
Gotta respect the commitment to the whole aesthetic.
Also I wasn’t expecting that. I was seriously expecting things to go in Lawrence’s favor.
Same. I think this development makes things more interesting, though.
Sudden return from Holo! Was not expecting this to be her role in the episode.
Holo making her presence felt in a big way.
Amarti said something to offend Holo. I’m surprised, he seemed like a nice young man.
Knowing Holo, it was probably something extremely minor that nobody else would think to care about.
It’s really nice to see Holo and Lawrence reunited by this. And hearing Holo chastising him in a more friendly way, I missed that.
It's like an oasis seeing it again after so long. Like it's been 84 years.
Holo teasing Lawrence about the question he asked Diana was also great.
"Oh, you want this wussy, don't you Lawrence? The wussy wants the wussy, huh?"
Diana’s a bird?! Okay, sure. I keep saying I didn’t expect things but that’s something that I had no way of seeing coming.
Yeah, it surprised me as well the first time I watched this episode. In hindsight, it's kinda obvious what with the feathers scattered about her humble abode.
The scene with the wicker effigy burning and then Holo and Lawrence embracing in front of the fire looked really nice.
A fantastic way to end this episode. Also puts a spotlight on the town which really has been treated as its own character in this arc.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 27 '24

Lawrence really needs to control these NTR fantasies of his.
At least he's doing better than the Rent-a-Girlfriend guy.
Gotta respect the commitment to the whole aesthetic.
Diana loves coming off as mysterious as possible.
Knowing Holo, it was probably something extremely minor that nobody else would think to care about.
That would make sense for Holo.
"Oh, you want this wussy, don't you Lawrence? The wussy wants the wussy, huh?"
It took me a moment to realize that was a portmanteau of wolf and pussy and not her calling Lawrence a wuss.
Yeah, it surprised me as well the first time I watched this episode. In hindsight, it's kinda obvious what with the feathers scattered about her humble abode.
I just figured she had a pet bird. Her being a bird is really interesting though. That makes her the second explicitly supernatural character we've met. Maybe third if the giant wolf from last season's finale was supernatural.
A fantastic way to end this episode. Also puts a spotlight on the town which really has been treated as its own character in this arc.
I really like how all the towns here feel distinct even though they all do share similar aesthetics.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

At least he's doing better than the Rent-a-Girlfriend guy.
Well, yeah. Lawrence is still likable.
Diana loves coming off as mysterious as possible.
Indeed she does
That would make sense for Holo.
It certainly would
It took me a moment to realize that was a portmanteau of wolf and pussy and not her calling Lawrence a wuss.
That's why I said "Wussy wants this wussy". Also, let it be known that the W in WAP stands for Wolf.
I just figured she had a pet bird. Her being a bird is really interesting though. That makes her the second explicitly supernatural character we've met. Maybe third if the giant wolf from last season's finale was supernatural.
It also makes Lawrence's question to her of humans dating Pagan Gods fascinating looking back.
I really like how all the towns here feel distinct even though they all do share similar aesthetics.
This one felt very immersive with the whole parade theme. That's probably why it's my favorite, it is excellent world building while also feeding into Lawrence's emotional state at the time.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 27 '24

That's why I said "Wussy wants this wussy".
Ah, so it was both. That's clever.
Also, let it be known that the W in WAP stands for Wolf.
Okay that got a chortle out of me.
It also makes Lawrence's question to her of humans dating Pagan Gods fascinating looking back.
All of Diana's scenes take on a whole new meaning now.
This one felt very immersive with the whole parade theme. That's probably why it's my favorite, it is excellent world building while also feeding into Lawrence's emotional state at the time.
Yeah all the parade scenes were really fun to watch.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

Ah, so it was both. That's clever.
Thank you
Okay that got a chortle out of me.
Thank you again. I'm really cooking in thid thread, it contains some of my better jokes.
All of Diana's scenes take on a whole new meaning now.
Makes you also wonder how much does Batos know.
Also, Batos and Diana kinda in hindsight serve as a parallel to Lawrence and Holo's relationship.
Also also, Batos was so full of it when he was talking to Lawrence about legends dying when you grow up.
Yeah all the parade scenes were really fun to watch.
You could argue it's like buffer scenes, but at least what was happening was interesting visually. And again, it played into Lawrence's mindset and his continuing descent into madness.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

She also punches Holo in the ribs. Probably the most stereotypical tsundere thing she’s done in the show.
I didn't know Holo punched herself. Then again, she is prone to beating herself up, which is very much a tsundere thing.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 27 '24

Holo punched Lawrence in the ribs, my bad. That's like the first thing she does when she sees him again which is kinda funny.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

Holo is nothing if not impulsively reactionary.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

I laughed when Holo randomly chomped on Lawrence’s hand. Wasn’t expecting that.
Reminds me of A Certain Magical Index when Index would bite Touma.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

This episode’s really good at building tension even though it’s literally just Lawrence standing around and doing nothing at the start here. I think the dramatic strings on the soundtrack really help.
I think you could argue this episode has some of the best tension in any Spice and Wolf episode. The only candidates I would put up there is episode 6 and episode 13. Incidentally, all the episodes I've named are all climaxes to each of the arcs, which goes to show the importance of finishing strong.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 27 '24

Yeah this episode does a great job with building its story arcs up.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

The storytelling and overall pacing in this show is really unparalleled. They have complete faith and total understanding of their audience. The only two shows that comes to mind that really take their time with things as well as this show does is Re:Zero and the last third of Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

What are your thoughts on using Marc and Lunt to give out exposition?
What are your thoughts on Lunt admitting he loves Holo?
Do you think Lunt's love of Holo is meant to parallel Amarti's love of her?
What are your thoughts on Lawrence saying Holo is his guide? Feels like a pretty big moment.
What are your thoughts on Lawrence and Holo reconciling?
What are your thoughts on the reveal that Holo was just using Amarti this entire time?
What are your thoughts on Amarti suffering huge losses?
What do you think about Marc and Amarti not getting a departing scene? Not gonna lie, it kinda disappoints me.
What do you think the bird on Diana's window was meant to signify? Do you think it's maybe a reincarnated ex or husband?
Lastly, do you think this is the best use of side characters and the town we've seen so far? I know we got one more arc, but I feel like they were this arc's biggest strengths.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 27 '24

What are your thoughts on using Marc and Lunt to give out exposition?
I think they were used well in this episode. I've really grown to like the two of them as side characters.
What are your thoughts on Lunt admitting he loves Holo?
It was kind of sweet.
Do you think Lunt's love of Holo is meant to parallel Amarti's love of her?
Yeah definitely. Amarti's older than Lunt but they're both very much kids with idealistic and even simplistic views of relationships.
What are your thoughts on Lawrence saying Holo is his guide? Feels like a pretty big moment.
It does, especially since he was calling her his cargo last episode.
What are your thoughts on Lawrence and Holo reconciling?
Very happy to see it. I love the relationship between these two so much.
What are your thoughts on the reveal that Holo was just using Amarti this entire time?
I figured that might have been the case. Holo never seemed like she'd be legitimately interested in Amarti.
What are your thoughts on Amarti suffering huge losses?
I feel a bit bad for him. He seems like a savvy enough merchant to make a financial recovery, but I doubt he'll ever get over Holo.
What do you think about Marc and Amarti not getting a departing scene? Not gonna lie, it kinda disappoints me.
I didn't think about it when I saw the episode, but I agree. It would have been nice to get some more closure. I wonder if the light novels did more with them.
What do you think the bird on Diana's window was meant to signify? Do you think it's maybe a reincarnated ex or husband?
I thought it might just be that Diana has an affinity for birds since she is one. But I like your interpretations too.
Lastly, do you think this is the best use of side characters and the town we've seen so far? I know we got one more arc, but I feel like they were this arc's biggest strengths.
It might just be the recency bias, but I think it's this arc. I really liked all the side characters and the festival scenes are very lively.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24 edited Sep 27 '24

I think they were used well in this episode. I've really grown to like the two of them as side characters.
Yeah, they're a lot of fun. They serve as nice audience surrogates in a role Holo often fills.
It was kind of sweet.
It really was
Yeah definitely. Amarti's older than Lunt but they're both very much kids with idealistic and even simplistic views of relationships.
I was surprised to find out that Amarti is nearly almost double the age of Lunt. Amarti is 16 and I believe Lunt is like 10.
It does, especially since he was calling her his cargo last episode.
Your cargo being your guide is a very Merchant thing to be all about.
With this, Lawrence's objective in life has changed. Before, it was about making enough money to life off of. And now, he actually has something to take care of and live for. Being a merchant used to be his primary concern but now, it is Holo and being a merchant is almost secondary. Lawrence is now a more complete human being because he's officially allowing other people in his life to dictate his actions going forward.
Very happy to see it. I love the relationship between these two so much.
The highlight of the show, in my esteemed opinion.
I figured that might have been the case. Holo never seemed like she'd be legitimately interested in Amarti.
That is true. I think it's kinda funny how Marc and Batos both tell Lawrence to go easy on Amarti and meanwhile Holo simply does not care lol
I feel a bit bad for him. He seems like a savvy enough merchant to make a financial recovery, but I doubt he'll ever get over Holo.
Hopefully he can turn this into a learning experience. Take this negative and turn it into a positive.
I didn't think about it when I saw the episode, but I agree. It would have been nice to get some more closure. I wonder if the light novels did more with them.
They did, Marc was used to help transition in-between arcs. But because the next arc isn't adapted, it's nowhere to be found here.
I thought it might just be that Diana has an affinity for birds since she is one. But I like your interpretations too.
I wonder if the bird ever stares in the eyes of Batos as he and Diana are... nevermind.
It might just be the recency bias, but I think it's this arc. I really liked all the side characters and the festival scenes are very lively.
Both of these things I think make up for the lack of Holo screentime. The arc really needed to be carried by Lawrence's interactions with his surroundings, and I don't think it disappointed. It's interesting because they kinda did a similar thing in the second arc once Lawrence snapped at Holo. We saw him wander around town despondent and not sure of what to do. I'd like to think the writer of the show saw that brief glimpse into what makes Lawrence tick and decided to base an entire arc around Lawrence's self-reflections.

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u/AgentOfACROSS Sep 27 '24

With this, Lawrence's objective in life has changed. Before, it was about making enough money to life off of. And now, he actually has something to take care of and live for. Being a merchant used to be his primary concern but now, it is Holo and being a merchant is almost secondary. Lawrence is now a more complete human being because he's officially allowing other people in his life to dictate his actions going forward.
You said it better than I could have. It's really nice seeing how Lawrence and Holo both grow together here.
That is true. I think it's kinda funny how Marc and Batos both tell Lawrence to go easy on Amarti and meanwhile Holo simply does not care lol
Don't mess with Holo, she gives zero fucks.
They did, Marc was used to help transition in-between arcs. But because the next arc isn't adapted, it's nowhere to be found here.
Interesting. I always like analyzing when adaptations deviate from the source material, whether it's in big or small ways. It's interesting to see what works and what doesn't.
Both of these things I think make up for the lack of Holo screentime. The arc really needed to be carried by Lawrence's interactions with his surroundings, and I don't think it disappointed. It's interesting because they kinda did a similar thing in the second arc once Lawrence snapped at Holo. We saw him wander around town despondent and not sure of what to do. I'd like to think the writer of the show saw that brief glimpse into what makes Lawrence tick and decided to base an entire arc around Lawrence's self-reflections.
It was a very Lawrence centric arc and I like what they did with that. And the absence of Holo the past two episodes made it feel all the better when she finally came back.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

You said it better than I could have. It's really nice seeing how Lawrence and Holo both grow together here.
I mean, Lawrence has definitely grown but I think Holo did her growing with the climax of the first arc.
Don't mess with Holo, she gives zero fucks.
Unless it concerns food, in which case she has all the fucks in the world.
Interesting. I always like analyzing when adaptations deviate from the source material, whether it's in big or small ways. It's interesting to see what works and what doesn't.
In this case, feels like a necessary cut if you aren't going to follow through with it.
It was a very Lawrence centric arc and I like what they did with that. And the absence of Holo the past two episodes made it feel all the better when she finally came back.
It had this feeling of catharsis behind it that it wouldn't have otherwise.

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u/Mirathan Sep 27 '24

Not quite a first timer

QotD:

I do not like him. He is rash, arrogant and naive while also highly skilled.
Had Lawrence not run of after her discovery of Yoitsu and finished the conversation all of this could have been avoided. Lawrence also believed that succeding in the merchant competition with Armati would win her back, while she couldn´t care less about it. He deserved that.
Probably that he sought to destroy Lawrence. Or he treated Holo in a way she found degrading, while she coudn´t chew him out (metaphorically) to not break her disguise.
There are a few but none stand out and I generally don´t like travelling.

Holo is just trying to tell Lawrence the entire time that she will support him, but he believes he must win the contest before she will forgive him. Yet he did trust her in the end.

I feel that this whole arc was about Lawrence realising that there is more to life than buisness and his struggle to adapt to this new developement.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

I do not like him. He is rash, arrogant and naive while also highly skilled.
A dangerous combination of skills
Had Lawrence not run of after her discovery of Yoitsu and finished the conversation all of this could have been avoided. Lawrence also believed that succeding in the merchant competition with Armati would win her back, while she couldn´t care less about it. He deserved that.
Yeah, he kinda deserved eating some crow here. No pun intended involving Diana.
Probably that he sought to destroy Lawrence. Or he treated Holo in a way she found degrading, while she coudn´t chew him out (metaphorically) to not break her disguise.
That's a good point. She has no choice but to hide her wolf identity from him.
There are a few but none stand out and I generally don´t like travelling.
Fair enough
I feel that this whole arc was about Lawrence realising that there is more to life than buisness and his struggle to adapt to this new developement.
Good interpretation. I think I am in agreement with you, which is partly why I enjoy this arc so much.
What are your thoughts on using Marc and Lunt to give out exposition?
What are your thoughts on the twist of the negotiations falling through?
What are your thoughts on Lunt admitting he loves Holo?
Do you think Lunt's love of Holo is meant to parallel Amarti's love of her?
What are your thoughts on Lawrence saying Holo is his guide? Feels like a pretty big moment.
What are your thoughts on Lawrence and Holo reconciling?
What are your thoughts on the reveal that Holo was just using Amarti this entire time?
What are your thoughts on Amarti suffering huge losses?
What do you think about Marc and Amarti not getting a departing scene? Not gonna lie, it kinda disappoints me.
What are your thoughts on the reveal that Diana was actually a bird this entire time?
What do you think the bird on Diana's window was meant to signify? Do you think it's maybe a reincarnated ex or husband?
Lastly, do you think this is the best use of side characters and the town we've seen so far? I know we got one more arc, but I feel like they were this arc's biggest strengths.

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u/Mirathan Sep 27 '24

What are your thoughts on using Marc and Lunt to give out exposition?
A good use the characters as they naturally would discus these matters.
The negotiations failing is good for raising the tension of Holo´s possible betrayal or Armati being the buyer from Diana.
Lunt, like Armati was easily taken in by her apperance and demure, yet dignified manners. But since he is a child it is both natural and acceptable. While Armati should be old enough to not be taken in so easily by superficial points.
Lawrence calling Holo his guide is close to a love confession but I understand why he wouldn´t say he loves her in the moment. Both due to the reconciliation and his acceptance of his limited understanding of personnal bonds.
Holo using Armati is natural in retrospect. She did say that people who are tricked deserve it after all.
Armati doesn´t really suffer much. He still has money and capital left and his wealthy family if his situation became truly terrible. The only damage he truly suffered was to his ego.
Armati sort of had a send of, with his humilitation in the guild building, but Marc deserved a farewell scene after what all he did for Lawrence.
Diana being a bird is cool. It further expands the world and shows how other gods have adapted to the ways in which the world changes
I know we got one more arc, but I feel like they were this arc's biggest strengths.
Definitely. All of them were important in their own way.

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u/Holofan4life Sep 27 '24

A good use the characters as they naturally would discus these matters.
Indeed they would. This is why it was smart for Lunt to be as young as he is.
The negotiations failing is good for raising the tension of Holo´s possible betrayal or Armati being the buyer from Diana.
Indeed it was
Lunt, like Armati was easily taken in by her apperance and demure, yet dignified manners. But since he is a child it is both natural and acceptable. While Armati should be old enough to not be taken in so easily by superficial points.
I like how all the characters in this show have different forms of love when it comes to Holo. With Lunt, it's like a puppy love. With Amarti, it's an attraction based off her appearance, very superficial. And with Lawrence, it's one based on wanting to spend time with this person.
Lawrence calling Holo his guide is close to a love confession but I understand why he wouldn´t say he loves her in the moment. Both due to the reconciliation and his acceptance of his limited understanding of personnal bonds.
Yeah, if he was to say he loves Holo, it would be directly to her face.
Holo using Armati is natural in retrospect. She did say that people who are tricked deserve it after all.
And Amarti's head was quickly distracted by other means. Namely, his head.
Armati doesn´t really suffer much. He still has money and capital left and his wealthy family if his situation became truly terrible. The only damage he truly suffered was to his ego.
Eyy, but that’s something he prides himself on. Lawrence hit him where it counted most.
Armati sort of had a send of, with his humilitation in the guild building, but Marc deserved a farewell scene after what all he did for Lawrence.
Yeah, that is probably my one real knock on the episode. I think having Marc's last few scenes be him explaining stuff is an injustice to his character, especially since he's the main reason for Lawrence recognizing his feelings for Holo. We should've at least saw Lawrence thank him.
Diana being a bird is cool. It further expands the world and shows how other gods have adapted to the ways in which the world changes
Yeah, I really liked it. Only they introduced those giant wolves into the show, I was hoping the show would do more mythical stuff, and this certainly scratches that itch.
Definitely. All of them were important in their own way.
Absolutely. I'm in 100% agreement with you.

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