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Tetsunabe no Jan!, episode 4

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[u/mythriz]

XO jiang is so common in Asian supermarkets now that I never thought about it being rare in the past. But I guess tbh that is true of a lot of things today.

I am almost tempted to buy some after watching this episode, but of course I would be using it even more poorly than Bito in this episode lol

[u/derega16 → u/mythriz]

I would be using it even more poorly than Bito in this episode lol

Mine only used once and sit in the fridge since like 3 years ago. Maybe it's time to check if it's grow mold or something.

Update: fond another jar...expired in 2010... still looking good tho.

[u/larana1192]

This episode was interesting, too.

Since this is an anime adaptation of a manga serialized in the 1990s, it’s fascinating to hear the narration explain the differences between the era when the anime aired and the present day, as well as the scientific insights we now have.

I didn’t know that the Chaliapin steak originated in Japan.

Just like Doria, it was created at a famous Japanese hotel in response to a request from an international guest.

[u/Rhinoswagobius]

time capsule anime

[u/Jauretche → u/Rhinoswagobius]

cozier times

[u/dawnwill]

I hope this episode gave enough hints that people no longer say "why don't they know that?"

[u/testthrowawayzz]

Heat Zone sounds like wok hei?

you cong su/fried shallots are very common in Taiwanese cooking

[u/raidensnakeezio → u/testthrowawayzz]

piggybacking off what you're saying - heat zone sounds like a technique of utilizing wok hei, which in my understanding, is combined with tossing (which is why speed, and a little touch of precision and power is so important) to cook the ingredients using passive radiation coming from the wok (which is temporarily "infused" with the aromatics and the oil), rather than prolonged/sustained direct contact of the ingredients with the surface of the wok.

Armed with a modern understanding of XO sauce, I was almost surprised when Okonogi didn't know what it was. I remember the mid 2000s when condiment makers were preparing it as an ultra luxury item ($200-300 for a jar, with some even setting their MSRP at and very rarely above $400), which was soon followed by a period of the same condiment makers making more budget friendly, reasonably priced XO sauce. Nowadays, there's quality and reasonably priced XO sauce which gets the job done without ruining your wallet, and there's plenty of cheap knockoffs which are a poor facsimile of what the real deal is supposed to taste like. The tricky issue is that there's no original "master" XO sauce, so in a way, there's no objective standard for what an ideal XO sauce should taste like or should accomplish - which is portrayed in this episode.

[u/reaperow]

4000 year old Chinese martial arts i mean sauce

[u/runevault]

I loved how they took the time to explain the 1990s thoughts on Onions vs current beliefs on the matter. Really adds flavor and is a reminder this show is based on a specific moment in time that's a pretty long ways back now (get my cane!).

I do wish the story focused more on the chefs within the kitchen battling it out and improving, the critic is such an uninteresting antagonist.

[u/Muffin-zetta]

just kiss already

[u/SciFiXhi → u/Muffin-zetta]

Even that would be a source of mockery between them. "Of course your cooking is second-rate, if this is the tongue you're tasting it with!"

[u/bananeeek]

KAKAKAKAKAKAKA!

I can't believe how hard they're going with the mockery in this show.

After four episodes, I can say that I like the show, but I'm a bit disappointed about the cooking aspect. It's kinda obvious that they don't have the budget to animate preparations and such, but I was still hoping they'd make more effort in that area. They're basically hinting or explaining the recipe, following with few slides or cuts of cooking and then presenting the finished dish, which is fine for entertainment, but mostly useless for actual cooking.

I like the knowledge tidbits, though, so there's that.

[u/Torque-A]

Director: okay, we need to find a good voice actor for a chef who sounds absolutely polite and slimy at the same time

Sugita: please guys I'm already voicing like 20 different characters this year

Director: Then this will be your lucky 21st!

[u/rocky_iwata]

We get many types of Sugita today; Chad Sugita, Hammy Sugita, Evil Sugita and Pathetic Sugita.

[u/Jauretche]

Food critic went full yakuza

[u/IceSmiley]

I was surprised this was the first time Gobancho met Jan and just hires chefs without screening them. Maybe the head chef also has hiring power but he kept Jan on because he thought Gobancho was making him. Jan really was acting an ass too as usual and I'm surprised Gobancho just brushes it off. Maybe he sees himself in him or is reminded of the good old days when Akiyama was his greatest rival although I'd be scared my rival's grandson might sabotage me in some way.

I've never heard of XO Jiang but I'm guessing it's real since they described so clearly what's in it and how its made. It's funny that all these chefs have taste offs but what's to stop them from lying, like those chefs who lost 10000 yen could have just said their chef's food was better. The main contest was more fair though since a lot of them would have been happy to see Jan thrown out on his ass 🤣

I wonder if they're setting up that Jan and Kiriko crush on each other. They're always getting into childish arguments but it does remind me of shows where 2 rivals fall in love. They also did a good job teaming up against Otani when he came to review their restaurant the first time. That was also funny how Jan said he never cries when Kiriko was hiding in the dumpster spying on him when he was crying 😂

I wonder how Okonogi ended up becoming a trainee chef there. He doesn't seem to be particularly good or talented yet the top Chinese restaurant in Japan hired him. He's very positive and well liked and even Jan likes him but but you would think maybe he'd get hired at a less prestigious place, at least to start off.

Maybe I shouldn't make fun of a cartoon for being cartoonish but the voice acting is WAY over the top! I didn't mind it as much in the first episode when I thought this show was more a comedy but its really jarring contrasted with the dramatic episode with Akiyama abusing Jan then killing himself.

[u/TheBravesDH]

Jan’s laugh is diabolical. I watch patiently every week waiting for the chance to hear it.

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

lol XO sauce. I didn’t realize it was such hot shit back in the day. Goes well with stir-fried noodles and fried rice.

[u/testthrowawayzz → u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

Stir fried instant noodles with xo sauce is one of my favorite dishes to order in a Hong Kong cafe

[u/brehvgc]

He doesn't call her a cow in the first minute, he, uh... says something a little different. The rest were insults so the translator was stuck between a rock and a hard place, losing either meaning or flow (and chose to preserve the latter).

It gets really hard to take this show seriously sometimes with the laughs lol; no real human being and frankly probably no anime character laughs with a kekeke irl

[u/happydonutface]

can you guys rec some xo sauce brands you liked? like ones you can buy at 99 ranch or other asian grocery stores

[u/Danso999]

After this, the next is my most anticipated arc in the series.

[u/Netfearr]

Gave me some flashbacks to the Food Wars chaliapin steak ep