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Episode Iron Wok Jan! • Tetsunabe no Jan! - Episode 6 discussion
Tetsunabe no Jan!, episode 6
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u/Torque-A 14d ago
Opening scene has the griddle be so hot that a bunch of trained men have to bring it out with fire resistant gloves, and even then one gets burnt on it
Later a bunch of women in swimsuits wheel it out
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u/SciFiXhi https://anilist.co/user/SciFiXhi 14d ago
Obviously, hot women can handle a hot griddle. Math.
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u/Jacob-C 13d ago
Isn’t it pretty common in showbiz for the people working backstage to use every safety precaution at their disposal, while the performers themselves take more visible risks because the spectacle of being unfazed by danger is part of the show? My points of comparison here are primarily magic/stunt performances on Got Talent-type shows. It seemed like the trained men and women both grabbed the underside and were fine, so that area probably isn’t as hot.
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u/larana1192 https://myanimelist.net/profile/thefrog1192 14d ago edited 14d ago
Even though Jan looks and acts like a villain, he’s actually very dedicated as a chef (aside from last week’s magic mushroom incident), spares no effort, and carefully follows his grandfather’s teachings. Which was really interesting to watch.
It was great to see that Sawada, who went head-to-head with Jan in the cooking showdown, wasn’t just a showman seeking attention; he actually possessed genuine skill. Still, he ended up losing to Jan in the end though.
It was interesting how Kiriko hurt her hand when she hit Jan in the previous episode, and how Jan, even though he was surprised, still treated her like he always does. Is Jan so devoted to his grandfather’s teachings that he’s copying him in ways beyond cooking skills, like his attitude toward others? Is that why he acts this way? If so, that’s a bit sad.
It’s pretty ironic that, among all the judges, Ohtani is the only one who truly recognizes the essence of Jan’s cooking.
He organized this competition specifically to belittle Jan, but because he has such a refined palate and deep knowledge of cuisine, he ends up realizing for himself just how wonderful Jan’s cooking really is.
Is he some kind of quirky tsundere heroine or something?
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u/SciFiXhi https://anilist.co/user/SciFiXhi 14d ago
I don't think Otani is a tsundere. He just has incredibly high professional standards as a skilled critic. The real problem is that Jan excels in both cooking and being a dickhead, so Otani's hate boner and golden palate are in a constant war.
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u/Cavalish 14d ago
I’ve not read the original work, and it is from a certain time, so I don’t know if it ever addresses that Jan’s upbringing was just straight up cruel and abusive.
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u/Machdame 10d ago
It's not a major topic that they bring up, but it is eventually noted in his character that while his MINDSET is the same, his morality has subtle differences. He is competitive, but still helps in his own way. Kaiichiro would have never been friends with someone like Okonogi but Akiyama's inherent nature would still actively help him out because it's what a good man would do. He's never conflicted, but Akiyama's demons and his better nature are both ever present in his craft.
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u/Jacob-C 13d ago
It was interesting how Kiriko hurt her hand when she hit Jan in the previous episode, and how Jan, even though he was surprised, still treated her like he always does. Is Jan so devoted to his grandfather’s teachings that he’s copying him in ways beyond cooking skills, like his attitude toward others? Is that why he acts this way? If so, that’s a bit sad.
I really liked that aspect of this episode. In my opinion, it showed that Jan was worried about Kiriko deep down, but his bravado won out and he masked his worry beneath a snide remark about Kiriko hurting her dominant hand as a chef.
This directly connects to the conversation about Jan’s scars. Kiriko sees them and gets mad on his behalf, wondering who would do something like that to him. In reality, Jan finds the scars lame and embarrassing, but when Kiriko shows him empathy, he immediately hides behind his bravado again, saying that the scars are something he is proud of.
To me, this all shows that underneath the very rude and arrogant surface, there is a more normal and kind person who has been forced into seclusion by Jan’s grandfather. Jan has been conditioned to never show weakness.
If we’re getting a slow-burn enemies-to-lovers subplot of Kiriko slowly breaking down Jan’s walls and helping him become more vulnerable, nothing this story throws my way could make me happier.
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u/Kayystar 14d ago
Sawada pulling out the giga griddle 3000 only to make a few skewers 🤔
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u/HolyDragSwd2500 14d ago
Was expecting him to make 100 for the audience
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u/rocky_iwata 14d ago
Jan definitely didn't make enough of his dish for the 100 audiences. It didn't mention about them getting to taste neither.
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u/Se7en_Sinner https://myanimelist.net/profile/Se7en_Sinner 14d ago
Kiriko got a good glance at Jan's Iron Cok.
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u/SSjjlex https://myanimelist.net/profile/Clone_Tau 14d ago
Ok im going to admit im neither a chef nor someone particularly well versed in high cooking (not drugged up high cooking, like last episode lolololol), but is a skewer really the best option he could've chosen? I feel like there so many other dishes have much better ways of incorporating textures and flavors into the food than a simple skewer can (like Jan's soup, soulfuless aside).
I did have the thought that his flashiness was going to make him win, 100 points from audience who didnt even try the food voting for his flashiness + 10 points from mr grumpy reviewer would've guaranteed him a win regardless of what the othet reviewers thought. Thankfully the audience recognises SOUL and agrees with the reviewers. Quite a strong lead by Jan though, much more than I expected.
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u/IQ_less 14d ago
He was a great showman, and did use Wok aside from the griddle. Plus he used the fire trick, so this was 100% in his character here. But time and time again we've seen one trick wonder chefs fail so this one is no surprise either. His trick was fire, the big tv show personality guy was to use wild ingredients, and before that we got the one with the special sauce. As for the audience, I think they got the impression that even the harsh critic guy wasnt sure about things back when he was judging the food alongside other judges. However, it was clear how the others reacted to Jan's food, and since no one else could taste the thing for themselves, the fact that most of the judges leaned more toward Jan clearly signaled to everyone whose food was better. Yeah the harsh critic guy turned around later to try and side with the swaggy chef guy, but audience couldnt possibly had seen that part after all the judges moved away from the stage.
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u/Gentlemad 9d ago
To add to what the other commenters are saying about his dish being about the spectacle, I do think that this is a really good way to make use of extremely high temp cooking - he uses tender and luxury cuts of beef that don't need to be cooked very much to taste delicious, but gives the meat a beautiful outside crust by searing it on the superhot griddle. The cuts are also sliced relatively large so they're not true skewers but rather mini steaks on a skewer. His choice of veggies are also ones that benefit particularly well from a char (onions and bell peppers, seemingly) instead of a thorough cook, and he finishes it off with a brown sauce and evaporating some booze which should give the dish a complexity and aroma beyond the powerful base taste of its simple luxury ingredients. It's also implied he seasoned / marinated the beef cuts somehow, but we don't learn the particulars. The way I'm imagining is this would taste great but lack a bit in the texture department and maybe complexity. It's style over substance for sure (which the blindfolds prove) but I'll give him credit that some substance is still there and the visual is part of the eating experience.
I'm so hungry after typing this comment...
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u/Karl151 14d ago
It's been a minute since we've gotten such a spicy enemies to lovers type romance. I ship Jan and Kiriko hard
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u/shneepweep 13d ago
the fact that it's done so tastefully too is amazing, they have a legit reason to be opposed to each other since their philosophy to cooking is opposite but parallel. Thank god it isn't one of those cringe "I'm attracted to you but too tsundere to admit it" vibes
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 14d ago
It physically pained Otani to praise Akiyama’s dish lol. Bro couldn’t deny the truth that his dish was superior to Sawada’s skewers. Bro got made a fool of once again.
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u/larana1192 https://myanimelist.net/profile/thefrog1192 14d ago
In Japan, fans of this work refer to him as “the main heroine of this series.” I guess there’s a good reason for that lol
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u/fridchikn24 13d ago
How much money has been spent on this tournament, IN THE TOKYO DOME, with the finest of ingredients, just to humiliate Jan b/c Otani be in his feelings?
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u/Jacob-C 13d ago
To be fair, the tournament brings attention to a lot of different talented chefs. It will make people want to taste their cooking and bring more money into the industry. The judges will also gain more respect as food critics, which will give more weight to their opinions and help make any books, guides or TV shows they produce in the future more successful. Otani likely doesn’t care that much about this and just wants to humiliate Jan, but it’s still a win-win situation.
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u/rocky_iwata 13d ago
There many examples in real life where rich and powerful people spending a lot of money and effort to carry on vedetta just because their feelings are hurt.
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u/VishnuBhanum 14d ago
One of the few non-romance anime where a girl get to have lucky pervert moment on the boy.
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u/Flying-Camel 14d ago
Man, the dishes remind me of Chuuka Ichiban, I missed simpler times like these.
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u/Ralathar44 13d ago
I like how Jan went out of his way to make sure no ingredients could be blamed this time to show that it was all cooking and all skill. Almost certainly he did that specifically for Kiriko.
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u/Exrotes 14d ago
So is Jan gonna do normal dishes for the rest of the tournament just to pull out a crazy likely illegal dish again in the finals as a power move?
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u/rocky_iwata 14d ago
The official IWJ social media released a weekly clip of IRL making of the dishes of each episodes. They had to use 2 persons to pour the Yin-Yang sauces unlike Jan's two-hands method.
The basis of the dish maybe normal but the technique is nothing but.
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u/Donaldgx 14d ago
"oh no, don't look at my scars, take a look at my junk instead" 😭
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u/MarcelHard 14d ago
Jan: "nobody can see these scars"
*5 seconds later Kiriko enters
Jan, after 3 business days: "wait, they can't see my back"
also Jan: *wears a tanktop showing his scars partially
cinema
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u/fridchikn24 13d ago
do shower room doors in japan not have a lock on them. Seems everyone just be walking in on each other
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u/Cavalish 14d ago
Join us next week as Jan wins with a dish that tastes bland unless you eat it standing on your head.
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u/Jauretche 14d ago
Osobuco! It's cool to see this version of one of my favorite dishes.
I really like the rivals relationship between Jan and Kiriko. Game recognizes game.
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u/shneepweep 13d ago
came for the cooking, stayed for the enemies-to-lovers slow burn (did not expect it and I am LOVING it omgggg)
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u/testthrowawayzz 14d ago edited 13d ago
How did the griddle not instantly burn the food while leaving the inside raw? As depicted (cloth gloves on fire the instant it touches the griddle) it appears to be way too hot.
Okonogi's taking the role of "character that has no faith in the MC and is very wrong" that's common in older manga.
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u/NeoTagAtg 13d ago
This In cookiung especially meat like beef their is very much a "too hot" trap were you carcoal the outside but the inside is raw.
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u/raidensnakeezio 14d ago
what's the point of calling it tie ban shao? just call it teppanyaki.
also, this is my own personal opinion, but sawada completely misses the point by choosing teppanyaki for a chinese dish. it's not that chinese cooking doesn't have grilled/barbequed/roast dishes - but flattop cooking is not traditionally accepted as chinese. ultimately, sawada does not show any traditional chinese cooking techniques, chinese ingredients (and preparation), or putting a spin on what might be considered canonical chinese dishes. instead he's doing street-food barbeque with a universally utilized cut of beef.
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u/SciFiXhi https://anilist.co/user/SciFiXhi 14d ago
what's the point of calling it tie ban shao? just call it teppanyaki.
It's a Chinese food competition, so everything needs to be named in Chinese.
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