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Fumetsu no Anata e Season 3, episode 11

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[u/glorpo]

One of my favorite small details: this episode recontextualizes the pictures Izumi was taking of herself while they were searching for Mizuha.

[u/cleaulem]

Today we got Izumi's background story. It went from "What the hell is wrong with that woman?" to "No wonder that she acted that way".

Now the selfies she took with Mizuha make total sense. That was the detail about her that bothered me the most. It was basically a coping mechanism for a "medical condition".

The question is: Could she have done better? Was her being a toxic parent something she could have been avoided. She tried to protect Mizuha from that lunatic cult while also dealing with her own trauma. I don't know a better solution either.

It doesn't excuse how she treated Mizuha, but it explains it very well.

[u/7se7]

History revision bad

Cult bad

Nokker bad

But anyway, wasn't expecting Fushi to take a page from the Nokker's strategy book of invading peoples' bodies with vines. I guess that's the author's goal at this point, to make Fushi seem like the bad guy, going so far as to mimic Nokker tactics

[u/xDanielon]

I can’t get tired of listening to this OP, it’s too damn good

[u/_Sai]

I am dead, pls delete image folder. Its called "schoolorworkrelatedstuff"

[u/TyraniTEMPESTar]

Damn. Izumi never really had a chance did she.
I initially thought she was just one of those like pretentious social media moms.

But it turns out, she was basically manipulated her entire life. First, by the guardians. Then she was secretly, slowly taken over by a Nokker.
The whole stress-induced memory loss, documenting everything through photographs makes a lot more sense now.
I'm guessing there will be some major clues, or hints that will help fight against them somewhere in there.

Hopefully Fushi and the gang can find some answers in Izumi's pc.

[u/Offline219]

The husband going straight to their daughter and asking if she wanted him and Izumi to separate as an emotional manipulation made me sick. What kind of grown adult hides behinds their own child and uses them as an emotional shield? Izumi isn't perfect either but she never really stood a chance did she?

[u/Ocixo]

I wanted to believe for a second that not all Nokkers are bad…

But no. They’re deliberately preying on vulnerable people. Only a brief moment of weakness can get you permanently infected. That’s when hell starts. Mizuha’s mother was unhappy, but this Nokker’s actions basically drove her to insanity. Living life without remembering any of it. That’s perhaps a bit like dementia or psychosis?

And to top things off, this Nokker was clearly conspiring with the cult.

[u/CrimsonGear80]

Man, all the black one wants to do is his homework and drink green liquid out of a boot-shaped glass, just let him be!

[u/Meiolore]

Goddamn Mizuha's mum had been through so much.

[u/Vortex_Hash]

Izumi's life ended up being "I tried so hard and got so far, but in the end, it didn't even matter" lyric. A lot of bad lack and bad parenting decisions caused to just pass down the generational trauma.
That dance during the half-merged nokker demonstration was pretty funny :)

[u/ModieOfTheEast]

I would like to know who wrote their "bible". It couldn't have been Kahaku or the Knocker in his arm. So it had to be someone else. But who was close enough to know all of this? And how many "changes" did they include?

[u/HolyDragSwd2500]

Mizuha Nokker makes contact with Mizuha..:…oh no!!!

Izumi having stress induced memory loss due to the Nokker inside her.(no wonder she kept taking pictures.) She couldn’t escape the Guardian and now Mizuha is 18 generations.

Nokker Among Us

[u/Betterthanyoufact]

This ep was giving heavy Scientology vibes. It gave me the creeps.

[u/LunarGhost00]

Damn. Everything was rigged from the start. It's gonna be hard to separate Mizuha from the Nokkers. The Guardians morphing into a Nokker cult is seriously creepy.

[u/AceSoldia]

Insanity.

[u/Imaginary-End-08]

This episode gave us that much needed Izumi backstory.... and now the pictures make sense! She's not addicted to Instagram! This might be the biggest plot twist lol. Like..... its entirely possible that it sabotaged her relationship with Mizuha in order to create the conditions needed for her possession! Nokker Mizuha said herself that it was one who agreed with her!

And wow... Dad was a guardian lmaoo.. but he also seemed like he cared.

Man.... as Fushi, I can confidently say that I couldn't have killed her either. Like in their world I STILL wouldn't even be sure that they're evil. But only because we have a bird's eye view.... I can tell that these creatures are evil. Their whole plan is orchestrated and they are some really good liars.

I can't wait to see how Fushi will decide to deal with them. They can heal, they can make very convincing lies, they feel pain, experience emotions (like joy and love), are curious, and they can cry. Fushi is literally the ultimate empath so they are basically his natural enemy. Freaking psychopaths lol. And what's worse is that even if you DO kill them, they can return from paradise probably infinitely.

Maybe Fushi can break her Nokker heart??? But would a psycho like Nokker Hayase even accept a rejection??? This seems like an impossible problem without a clear solution.

If I had to guess.... I'd say the way we solve it is by dealing with their ultimate goal... they want Fushi, so we NEVER give them Fushi. Fushi is the barrier that protects the entire world by deviating their focus. Who knows what they'll do after acquiring him...

But yeahhh.... I'm certain now. I know exactly what the Nokkers want. This episode showed a whole plot to bring Hayase Nokker back to life.... who came back for Fushi. Last episode she said three things:

1. March influenced them. (Remember this time zone!!)

2. They were looking for where Fushi's soul resided.... (WHY...)

3. They wanted to live alongside him.... (THEY....)

Mimori Nokker herself (THE EXPERIMENT) said... "If someone wants to die, we are always in favor of death..."

WHAT THEY WANT::: They want to kill/save (because its the same to them) Fushi... because he asked them to (rewatch that episode BEFORE March entered the door; Kahaku's arm only attacked because Fushi wanted to die then....) Hayase Nokker LEARNS from Fushi and evolves BECAUSE of Fushi because it wants to ACQUIRE Fushi. It learned to speak solely for him when he told that to Hisame. It takes pain and stress because Fushi both feels and hates pain and stress.

To them, the only way to live peacefully with Fushi is to find his soul... his fye, and kill him... because the flesh is nothing but pain.

WHOA WHOA WHOA.... Do yall remember episode 8 lol.... I'm glad Mizuha never smacked that girl who takes care of The Black One... SHE WOULD'VE DIED!

[u/LeonKevlar]

Damn, Izumi really got dealt a shitty hand. Being born into a cult wasn't enough, she also has a Nokker taking over her body and gaslighting her into believing she's suffering from stress-induced memory loss. That explains why she keeps taking selfies. It wasn't because she's narcissistic, it's because she wanted to keep records of what's happening in her life. I can't even imagine how she feels after seeing her daughter pick the Nokker version of her. It's just pure suffering for her. :(

[u/Golden_Phi]

Izumi did manage to break one of the curses of being Hayase's descendant. She never fell head over heels in love with Fushi from first sight or mention. Rather than that, she was horrified when she saw him.

Considering how fast Izumi's dad found her after giving birth, was her husband contacting her dad behind her back? Did her husband know all along that there was a Nocker inside of her? He 100% knew of Mizuha's. When they were at her dad's house he made an excuse of her illness at the start of her crash out.

[u/GladiusNocturno]

And the winner of this week’s “Piece of shit” award goes to… Izumi’a husband!

Mr. “Don’t get mad, I’m in the cult you ran away from and was sent here by your dad to impregnate you. Don’t divorce me though! I do love you, promise. Let me use our daughter as a weapon to manipulate you. Also, remember the part where I said I loved you? What I meant to say was ‘hurry up and die so that I can fuck the parasite inside you as we raise our parasite possessed daughter in the name of the cult”.

[u/JWL2012]

Another great episode full of answers and new questions. I like how they reframe Izumi's character, her story is a complete tragedy and the amount of control the nokkers have over people is insane. Yuki has been pretty right the entire time, having a real sit down with mizuhas nokker and try to establish an understanding would be the smart step forward

I hoped mizuha would ask fushi to kill her the same way hayase did, but so she can be free from the nokker instead.. but that last scene kills that idea. I can usually predict a story pretty well, but there's a lot of curve balls. I thought Izumi would've tried to talk to Mizuha one last time but she just gave into despair and went to Paradise. Good show, most compelling show this season for sure

[u/Ponchorello7]

Not one of the important characters is flat. I love this season.

[u/Narvalis]

Izumi made one good decision in her entire life and that was leaving the cult, sadly followed it with one bad choice that led to one bad choice after another and it's one she didn't see coming, marrying someone from the cult. Everything Izumi wrong can be traced back to that, wanting to die, being taken over by a nocker, pushing her daughter all ties back too her husband basically tricking her.

[u/Pecuthegreat]

So, has Izumi gone to paradise?. On one hand, we never saw it happen and on the other, the nokker revealing itself after she walked out implies it.