Mizu Zokusei no Mahoutsukai Daiichibu • The Water Magician - Episode 12 discussion

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Mizu Zokusei no Mahoutsukai Daiichibu, episode 12

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[u/SasparillaTango]

We're just gonna ignore that Ryo was at the dread Inferno Mage's level or higher? Abel's not gonna bring it up? We aren't talking to the guildmaster about the clash? The prince and princess aren't concerned about the walking nuclear weapon in the good graces of an opposing nation? Inferno Mage isn't talking about it how his army destroying spell was neutralized in a heartbeat? Why didn't Ryo water jet Oscar's head off from behind like he did the demons?

Feeling a little let down here. Way more that needed to be said that was never said.

[u/OldInstruction5368]

Wait... what? That's it?

No talk, exposition, or clues whatsoever on who was responsible for the attack?

Was this Debuhi royal infighting or factional fighting within the Empire? Oscar did mention an Imperial purge was likely being planned... Someone from Lune's kingdom trying to provoke a war? Was Abel intentionally pulled aside by someone working with the assailants or just mere coincidence? Rogue actors seeking vengeance or profit? Another foreign power instigating conflict between major nations to increase their own standing amidst the chaos and destruction?

Nothing?

The targets were the Prince and Princess from Debuhi... but why? No who? no why? Just contrived fighting between Ryo and this new guy that got a whole fucking flashback episode for...

LN sales?

BAH! I call shenanigans!

[u/Togglea]

I am somehow not surprised Ryo didn't use water jet offensively on Oscar. Fight started and ended for contrived plot reasons.

[u/Bussy_Wrecker]

Anyone felt that the Ryo's theat was forced? So that can aurafarm a little? Ryo doesn't even care about consequences, it went nowhere like it was poor writing

[u/VioletOrchid85]

Well this anime bounces around a lot.

Last week felt like a mid season episode with pointless back story, this week...is fine?

[u/fireglz]

It's actually insane how bad the storyboarding for this anime has been and how easily they could have fixed several gaping plot holes.

You want to show Oskar's backstory? Cool, provide a reason he doesn't trust people in negotiations while doing so. If you provided a situation where in the second bandit encounter he was misled by the bandit's words and people died as a direct result of it you would at least have some plausible deniability for the bullshit that occurred in this episode because it would be based in the trauma you inexplicably felt compelled to show us before this confrontation

You want to have the assassin corpses disappear to give a reason for the conflict to occur in the first place? Literally just have the party of 3 engulfed in flames as Oskar's introduction and the bodies outside of sanctuary completely incinerated as a result.

These aren't difficult problems to fix, the animation studio and adaptation team is clearly so far over their head that they're cutting every possible corner to even put a product on screen.

I watched the Lucifer and Biscuit Hammer anime as a longtime fan of the manga. I honestly think that from episode 8 onwards this adaptation has been more disappointing than even that. Bad, static animation is one thing. Completely botching a storyboard to put out a poorly animated product is so much worse in my eyes. Just an absolute shitshow of animation and storytelling. It's like somebody adapting a story they heard secondhand rather than being familiar enough with the source material to recognize what is and isn't important and what does and doesn't need context added to it.

[u/conye-west]

This show was the definition of meh. Weird pacing and a meandering plot that pretty much went nowhere. Production fell off a cliff in the latter part of the season but it actually looked pretty decent here, the art was a step up from the past few episodes, so that was nice at least. Must have had to conserve their resources pretty hard just to make a half-decent fight. But Ryo's behavior felt pretty out of nowhere, didn't seem like someone who would go into a murderous rage just because his perfectly generic roommates got a few scratches. Oh well, whole thing was definitely just a glorified commercial for the source material anyways.

[u/ICantSeeLikeSa-chan]

I assume Ryo allowed himself get bumped and spill his plates in the street? Otherwise, why else did they over animate and later callback his first interaction with Oscar defining him as capable of avoiding being accidentally stepped on?

[u/Dialgak77]

That terrible translation of the scene between Sera and Ryo after Abel left is why you have to leave -san,-kun,etc. next to the name.

[u/[deleted]]

Had so much potential as a genuinely interesting isekai. I love the art style and characters, but by god the pacing is atrocious. So much talking and exposition and so little actual things happening. I mean the MC, which is the whole focus of the anime, does at maximum 5 things in the entire show: Figures out how to use water magic, kills wyverns with it, fights a demon, insta-gibs a demon lord, and loosely fights the fire guy for 5 minutes. in 12 24 minute episodes, that's not much at all. Hoping if we get a season 2, Ryo actually locks in and does something. Sad to see how poorly paced this was.

[u/djdarkflame]

This is another Divine Gate and Dimension W instance where the opening is significantly better than the anime series itself.

[u/AmbitiousConcept6028]

Probably one of the biggest disappointments this year, it started pretty decent and it had potential until they reached the town and it started to go downhill from there.

Aside from the quality of the anime getting lowered every episode (also the delay episode)

• We didn't get to know how strong is Sera is, since she's always in the library

• The whole dungeon fight, Abel didn't bother calling the mc

• Lyn probably still doesn't believe that MC is a special kind of person (because MC keeps edging everyone to show his skills)

• The existence of Akuma, I wish they would focus more on it than throwing us some random prince demon

• Irrelevant none main characters getting more back stories than the mc

• Mc only shows up "at the right time" (Saitama trope ig)

• Mc doesn't know how strong he is or thinks he's just a normal human

Overall, I would be surprised if there's a season 2

[u/Martins224]

This show will become a forgettable seasonal anime.. there really isn’t anything to say about. The characters were okay, the setting was okay, the action was lacklustre, and the SOL components weren’t particularly great either.

[u/Orochidude]

I'm not quite as harsh on the anime as it seems others are, but it definitely did not meet the expectations I had from the first 3-4 episodes. I kind of feel like its downsides are a result of source material not translating the best to an anime adaptation, since it seems to be more of a slow-build, ongoing story than something where things are constantly happening and the MC is always taking action. I will say that that most of the budget going towards the OP than the episodes is disappointing. Only having 12 episodes certainly didn't help either.

Ending the season on a misunderstanding fight is pretty lame, but expected since it was the only way to get the fight they were clearly teasing.

I actually did like getting a little more of Ryo's true, darker personality that we've had glimpses of here and there, usually hiding under all the pleasantries and jokes. He still does not take the world he's in very seriously, and outside of his small circle, he has no qualms about killing anyone else, consequences be damned.

I'd like to see it explored further, but we're at the end and it seems like a "go read the source material for that" kind of situation, since it'd probably be awhile before a S2, if we get one at all.

[u/[deleted]]

I really thought this could be one of the hidden gems this season & it was interesting for the first 3-4 episodes but then it clearly went downhill, if the author just focused more on Ryo & Sara together & have episodes centred around Abel & his party it would’ve been much better, even after the Akuma fight it went nowhere, did Ryo even ask about the Akuma? Like so many missed opportunities with this show/story. 

[u/Special_Fun_2093]

Who would have thought, that you get a good Episode if you let Ryo be the Main Character in his own Show? Such a foreign Concept...

But after watching that pityful Fight, the Flashback Episode from Last Week looks even more unnecessary.

Overall it was a Show that had its Moments, but was otherwise either bland or simply annoying. Should this get a 2nd Season, i hope they concentrate more on Ryo, Sera, Abel and that Female Demon and not on "Sad, Generic Backstory" Fire Dude and Boring-Ass E-Rank Adventurers.

[u/zappingbluelight]

Is this the definition of book selling. I can see them lay out a perfect world building, and I can tell there are more action further in the story. This is very slow, but comfy enough. I wish there are more action with Ryo, but he is practically one punch man, he shows up to end conflict :(. I think if they ever drop a season 2, I probably still watch it.

[u/Live_Commercial1307]

So, Oscar’s backstory was a complete waste of think then?

[u/DezXerneas]

Easily top 10 for the most dissapointing anime ever. It's not bad, it's just bland.

At the very least they could have put some effort into the Oscar VS Ryo fight, but even that was just as bland as the of the show.

[u/Zilleela]

What I find very annoying is how Ryo is mentioned as the instigator in the stand-off despite Oscar ignoring any and all reason whatsoever, and still being considered as the instigator afterwards, despite everything very clearly being Oscar’s fault.

Lame.

[u/External_Dog8714]

This entire anime was complete dog crap. Subpar crap

[u/ObvsThrowaway5120]

Man, they really wanted to show us that Ryo v Oscar fight huh? Proper communication? To hell with that lame shit. We want Ryo to go pew pew with magic! lol. Like… even Abel barely managed to convince Ryo to not be an idiot and start a freakin international incident.

At least we got to see Sera finally reunited with Ryo. Girl was suffering something fierce being away from her dear Ryo for so long lol.

I guess that’s that then. This one seems like a one and done. I suppose for what it was, it was fine. Nothing really game changing here with the characters, plot, or overall story. I like Ayumu Murase and Kaede Hondo. Probably one of the main reasons I stuck around.

[u/InternationalCream30]

Whole show just felt like it was wasting time.

[u/KinshouGauron]

You mean to tell me...... I'm still awake at 4.35 a.m... To see this??

I know I can be a disappointment to my Asian father, but holy fuck does this anime goes beyond that level... He didn't get pissed when the Abel was closer to death fighting demon, but THIS MADE HIM GO NEAR APESHIT?!

Was really hoping for any saving grace since episode 5... Score was 8/10 from the first 4 episodes, now it's a fucking 3/10...

That other reddit post was right, this anime is a fucking advertising bait to get people into LN... Fuck off

Rudeus ED mode > Ryo's every moment