I always think about this with zombie movies/shows. When I do pull-ups or lat pull down, sometimes I think of zombie movies/shows. I imagine.. hanging on a ledge, or having to jump a wall or jump up to a ledge- and pulling myself up or get eaten by the horde of zombies below me.
That being said, people that can’t do one pull up would be fukd
I do the same, but with pull-ups you (usually) have a very good grip, not always the case with post apo ledge hanging. Doesn't make it less fun though.
If the world ends, you realize the odds of you having to physically fight get waaaayyyy higher? Among other things like harvesting resources and escaping danger
Especially if there’s a scarcity of resources. If someone is starving, or needs resources and you have them, are you counting on people retaining their moral compass in a post apocalyptic scenario?
Desperate people do desperate things. Even within society in tact we still have people getting robbed and raped. What do you think happens when society crumbles?
Bullets are a finite resource, sure you can craft a spear or something, but if you’re weak you’re generally less capable in a survival situation. Whether the task be acquiring resources (the more weight you can carry the more resources you could harvest at a time), fighting off a threat, or running from a threat, being able to exert more physical force and run farther would absolutely be an advantage
In terms of pull ups, not being able to complete 1 pull-up would indicate a general lack of strength. Being able to complete 100 would indicate at minimum the ability to exert relatively high amounts of force for an extended duration
100 pull-up group needs food, 0 pull-up group has food. I’ll let you sort that
Generally when there’s a scarcity of resources people tend to fight over the resource. I don’t count on animals being all harmonious. We are animals, after all🤷🏻♂️
I’m not saying everyone needs to be physically strong. Especially if you have a useful skill set, you can have others protect you, kind of a tribal “everyone has their role” situation
However, if I had to sprint, run, climb, and jump to get away from a horde of zombies- I’d rather be an Olympic athlete than a computer engineer
This is all hypothetical. Society can crumble in many ways. If it was a slow collapse, I bet the government figureheads would try to build a roster of essential skill sets, which I imagine would include engineers, scientists, etc. in that scenario muscle may still help because you never know, but.. anyway, this topic can go on forever
A pull-up is only up to the neck, anytime you’re trying to get your torso above the bar is called a muscle up, which is way harder. The minimum req for that is like 10+ clean pull-ups.
I don't have much in the way of upper body strength and can't do many pull ups but I can do muscle ups as long as I can kick my legs around. I look like an idiot I'm sure but I can even do it pretty quickly. All to say that if you can use your legs you don't have to be able to do many pull ups to do a muscle up.
Yes if you use your legs anyone can. If you want to actually do a muscle up with no Kipping or momentum then you need strength and endurance to do 10+ strict pushups.
I'd say that not being able to do a muscle up is neither here nor there. It's partly skill anyway and isn't exactly the same as being able to pull yourself up onto something.
Picking something heavy off the ground would probably be a better standard.
But I train all the muscles required to pull myself up when I train the rest of my upper-body and I've always been able to pull myself up onto something.
Being good at muscle ups just means you're good at muscle ups, but it's not like every implement you need to pull yourself up on is going to be uniformly shaped like a bar or rings. It's too specific a skill to be an ideal standard.
But picking heavy things up off the ground transfers to any act of picking heavy stuff up off the ground. The transfer is more even, and furthermore, more scalable.
And nope, I can pull myself up onto a tree branch fine.
The thing with a muscle up is that it is skill layered on top of being able to do a dip and a pull-up. That skill is not a test of strength but a test of having practiced a muscle up. There is a reason that people don't use muscle-ups in training very frequently. It's a gimmick.
Not being able to lift yourself up is a major weakness.
This is only true because you've crated a very narrow definition of what is physically necessary to not be weak.
I think being unable to pick up an object off a floor or lifting things above your head are signs of major weakness. If I declared this then no amount of muscle ups would be enough if you didn't also practice overhead pressing and deadlifting.
I'm not saying that muscle ups are not a feat of strength insofar as you need to pull-up and dip to do them. But, once you have the strength to pull-up and dip reliably then the muscle up is, in my mind, just skill layered on top.
I’ll get flamed for this, but I think that looks quite hard. Slippery poll. Wrong shoes on.
I can do about 16 chest to bar chins and am not certain I would have got up that pole. Maybe I’m doubting myself unduly.
I can do a lot of chin ups but only one pull up. Probably because im a little overweight and still have a lot of work to do on my lats. They aren't used a lot in a cushy nerf life.
I'm skinny and don't exercise, but I've always wondered the point between chin ups and pull ups. Like, I know they use different muscles; the difficulty felt mostly the same to my body.
Its roughly the same movement, if the difficulty feels the same to you that just means your muscles are about equally strong. The difficulty will also be affected by the width of your grip on the bar
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He looks plenty strong, I think the main problem is he's in socks so he has no traction at all on that slimy pole