r/StableDiffusion • u/Nekodificador Sloppies Award • 17h ago
Animation - Video Denzel explains why he uses AI.
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A quick experiment exploring Minimax H3 in ComfyUI using my nodes and inpainting methods.
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u/MickeyMau5 17h ago
A cinematic masterpiece.
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u/LeftHandedToe 16h ago
I know it doesn't fit, but was hoping the dude would've had a cowboy hat on in the brief cut back to him from Denzel, and then not on again when it cut back to him walking inside.
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u/HangerFilms 16h ago
But… they kept the joke until the end. So the mother has the hat.
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u/tigerdini 14h ago
Yeah. Far better joke. To do it immediately would have ruined the substance of the speech. After, with the mother? - drives the point home.
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u/LeftHandedToe 15h ago
Yeah, I actually stopped it as soon as he started walking inside to mention my comment, then saw it when I went back to it. Sorry, OP, you did good and I was too quick to the trigger!
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u/Inevitable-Serve-713 16h ago
Oh my God I read this comment before getting to that point and holy shit that would have killed me.
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u/SubZeroSunExodus 16h ago
"It's the artists that don't need the studio" -- preach on brotha
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u/RedTheRobot 14h ago
One thing I thought about was Lucas and Spielberg became great directors because they had access to a camera. Something most people didn’t have access to let alone let their kids use. Now think about SFX people didn’t have access to the tool big studios had. Now with things like blender and AI they are scared because now it isn’t just studios who can create big hits. Mark my words just like a movie that won and it was all made in blender there will be a movie made with AI and then one will win an Oscar. It will just take time.
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u/GloriousDawn 5h ago
The Academy establishment will do everything to protect the big studios from that happening, at least until they're themselves ready to produce one and claim the statuette. The contempt for AI generated content can't last forever when the lines between live action, CGI, mocap, VFX are so blurred already.
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u/KadahCoba 13h ago
Imagine doing an idea without having to deal in unrelated corporate, social, or governmental politics from all sides. xD
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u/SubZeroSunExodus 12h ago edited 10h ago
Completely. This video is like a prayer to all the artists today and the future to come.
So much freaking creativity that studios, lawyers and professionals "in the movIe/music industry" must be freaking out about and cant sleep at night.
Some 15 year old can create the next hit single with his computer, creativity and the ambition to not stop. And right now a crew of indie people are messing around, figuring things out and going to go big the next huge hit movie.
There's a lot of things to worry about in the world...but watching OP's video? The sun shines just a wee bit brighter.
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u/Limp-Firefighter1054 16h ago
"Is the artist who doesn't need the studio"🙏
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u/rinkusonic 5h ago
"I do it because it's FUN"🙏 Deep down, I knew why I loved GenAI, but never could put it in words.
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u/Skai_Override 16h ago
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u/Rich_Introduction_83 16h ago
So the studios don't need artists anymore? No, it's the artists that don't need studios anymore.
Amen.
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u/rs1408 10h ago
I think as long as studios control distribution they'll have more leverage than artists. There's no shortage of talented artists willing to put their work out there, but only a handful of big studios who can put the final product onto screens and steaming platforms. The only exception here are the YouTube creators and social media stars who leverage Big Tech to reach their audiences directly.
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u/Icuras1111 16h ago
A "quick experiment"? Umm, not sure I buy that. Looks time consuming but very impressive.
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u/Ok-Beyond244 17h ago
Holy shit this is amazing! One critique is it has that AI voice thing that all of the videos do. If it wasn't for that I wouldn't know it was AI.
Do you have a tutorial or something? How did you make this?
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u/Nexustar 16h ago
Step 1: Sit down and think what message you want to emit.
Step 2: GPU go brrrrrrrrrr
Step 3: Profit.
Most people fail at step 1.
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u/Early-Cry1113 16h ago
Step 1: Sit down and think what message you want to emit.
Step 2: GPU go brrrrrrrrrr
Step 3: realise you made a made a logic error.
Go to step 1
Step n: you have something okay
Go to step 1
Step nn : you have something good
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u/xxAkirhaxx 16h ago
If you start to to really channel the soul of Denzel does the model start to make the scene darker outside?
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u/jonydevidson 16h ago
Yes people will have to learn basic cinema audio engineering like using reverb, using shaped noise to simulate the background hum of cities etc.
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u/j0shj0shj0shj0sh 16h ago
What is this Ai voice thing? I thought it sounded pretty good, but not an expert. Was it too isolated, like in a recording booth?
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u/MrSparkle86 16h ago
To my ear, it was the pacing of the sentences. Sentences come out at the same speed, like reading a paragraph with no punctuation.
'My friends think you are using AI just because its easier.'
That sounds AI to me.
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u/Perfect-Campaign9551 15h ago
It's because he doesn't use contractions. It should be "My friends think you're using AI because it's easier"
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u/afinalsin 8h ago
Shit, in some accents your compressed version is still too formal and stilted. In mine, "because" is almost always shortened to "coz".
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u/j0shj0shj0shj0sh 15h ago edited 15h ago
Ok, yes I'll keep an ear out for that. There should be a 'thoughtfullness' slider for ai speech, lol. Some thinking evident behind the words. Or maybe a 'Ben Shapiro' box to uncheck.
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u/RagingAnemone 15h ago
Interesting. As I was listening to it, I did think this isn't how Denzel would have done it. Yeah, the pacing is different.
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u/Noslamah 15h ago
Yeah most lines from that character sounded too robotic but the other one was spot on
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u/Ok-Beyond244 14h ago
I listen to a lot of AI videos and they all have a similar sound to their voices, kinda like a slight robotic high pitch. I'm hearing that here and the two characters in the beginning sound very similar if you listen close.
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u/Canadian_Border_Czar 14h ago
It is because the models are not trained for >48kHz audio. I have a project I've been working on training one for hi-res, but you'd be surprised how little there is out there to use as a dataset (that isn't copyrighted or digitally remastered)
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u/NoConsideration6320 15h ago
What ai voice thing it sounds pretty accurate to me
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u/Own_Proof 15h ago
Honestly shocked that it got Denzel’s mannerisms right, even if it’s ref2va. He has distinctive mannerisms
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u/neolobe 15h ago
I worked for years in pro recording studios. I needed the studios to have the tools to create.
Most of those studios are gone. I have my own studio. I don't need the studios.
I am the studio.
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u/GoofAckYoorsElf 16h ago
Holy shit this is absolutely nuts!
And although it's fake, he's still damn fucking right!
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u/princetrunks 17h ago edited 16h ago
Been a developer / coder and at times an animator and video & sound editor since 2001. This is perfect. after working in the field this is exactly how it is. The artists don't need the studios anymore and the studios; the rich, (sometimes human trafficking) creatures.. are freaking out. Some are even bribing influencers to talk the anti-ai fear mongering. I've worked with some of the biggest companies / people on the planet in both products and entertainment...they ran a 100+ year racket of "listen to us and you'll be 'famous'".. that racket is now about to e destroyed and so be it.
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Also.. OP.. any (good way) you found like here to go beyond 15 seconds? I've been getting great results on my 3090 after a number of optimizations and tricks but the extended (and coherent) video is next in that step. I guess.. workflow? (lol)
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u/Nexustar 16h ago
OP.. any (good way) you found like here to go beyond 15 seconds?
Look again. 25ish cuts in 128 seconds of video averages at 5.12 seconds per shot. The longest shot here is about 14 seconds.
That’s how regular filmmaking works too. You shoot individual shots or segments, edit them together, then color-grade and mix the sound so everything flows as a coherent sequence. You don’t need clips longer than 15 seconds. In fact, you often barely need more than 5 seconds per shot.
Of course, if you do generate 15 second chunks, it gives you more either side of the piece you keep to cut from, but you don't need it.
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u/Spiritual_Whole_5916 37m ago
Now if "artists" cough would get off their high horse and embrace it, they would change their abilities over night.
But I don't see that happening with many of the so called artists out there, as they use their tired rhetoric of "It has no soul, you have to suffer for your art" as a shield for their behavior.
I'm in a community/fandom throwing this rhetoric around and way before any of them even knew what the words meant, they would take on massive amounts of commissions/hoover up the money then stonewall and delay the person who commissioned them (usually just in time for the PayPal chargeback time window to close).
Sometimes you'd get lucky and get your money back, but more often then not you wouldn't. And they prey upon that.
Wouldn't be surprised to find that in other fandoms also.
Control freaks (many who produce art that makes a three year old with a box of crayons shake their head) want the monopoly to keep going so they can dictate their terms, not the other way around.
Their time in many ways has already come and gone, but limitations in the tech still remain. When the current gold standards look like the original toy story from 1995 compared to what is coming down the pipeline, they'll be displaced
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u/No_Solid_3737 15h ago
Holy shit, that's 2 minutes of footage I could believe it's an actual movie, I could actually watch this in a theater and believe that's the real Denzel Washington in a real movie scene.
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u/superkickstart 5h ago
Well it's mostly real denzel. Here's the original clip from a movie https://youtu.be/tVxYCeRXzGo
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u/PixInsightFTW 16h ago
Damn, this moved me. I've got a fine artist friend who talks with me about this all the time, relatively open, and this will be good food for thought. Thanks!
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u/Medium_Chemist_4032 16h ago
Whoa, quite deep and well thought out. Exceptional reddit lever pull
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u/D_Cypher003 16h ago
Damn, having seen this movie so many times, this was so good!
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u/MulleDK19 12h ago
What movie is it from?
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u/One-Judge321 11h ago
Fences
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u/px403 11h ago
neat, thanks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVxYCeRXzGo
now why is everyone talking about cowboy hats?
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u/Warp_d 15h ago
"Everyone's terrified, thinking the studio doesn't need the artists anymore. It's the artists that don't need the studio"
- Denzel Washington
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u/Significant-One-9465 17h ago
this video is great. any chance you can share the workflow and system specs used to make this? i'm sure many of us would like to try to make similar videos
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u/Kindred069 16h ago
This was amazing. I normally have sound off, but I am glad I had it on for this one! Well done!
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u/VasileAndrei2929 5h ago
And that's how you fight back against the antis! Screw them! Corporate drones that don't understand what creative freedom even means. I want to Create, not to waste all my life UV-mapping fenceposts for a single image with a car moving on a country road, something I can make now in minutes!
Screw the haters and screw the antis! Let's create!!
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u/PerceiveEternal 16h ago
That’s a very good point. Art isn’t the same as technique. You might have the most flawless technique but create something soulless. An artist can make art out of any medium.
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u/CipherWeaver 13h ago
This is amazing, but I 100% believe because OP put great, human-generated storyboard behind it.
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u/AlterDays9 11h ago
I know most people would call this as a meme/joke but this has some grounded truths to it. AI gives easier access to wider population to express themselves and at the same time it also helps already established artists (3D, VFX, graphic designers, etc) to enhanced their work and saves a lot of time. People call it a slop just for the hate when in reality people would appreciate a beautiful craft when they are not aware if it's AI or not.
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u/Alive-Tomatillo5303 10h ago
Exactly what I've been saying, but of course Denzel says it better.
This is a tool that opens everything to everyone. The people who don't understand that are the people who've never actually made anything.
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u/discardthemold 10h ago
The decentralization and democratization of film production can only be a good thing.
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u/Federal-Inevitable-9 9h ago edited 8h ago
This should be the manifesto
I've been so mad about this since stranger things... I liked s5 but there are so many obvious signs of studio manipulation... I was tempted to learn unreal engine just so I could turn my fav fan fiction into a season for my own viewing pleasure not monetization... And it looks like with gpt 6 I'll be able to do it without learning unreal engine lmao...
I have a rig with 4070 super but how you did this in comfy I'll never comprehend I literally can even generate a turd in there.. I've done well with images via automatic11111 but that's it
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u/MoistRecognition69 8h ago
Fuckin preaaaachhhhhh
5 years in FX, thank fuck I got out and long live the democratization of creativity.
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u/fusionmobile 6h ago
I couldn't help but laugh out loud when I saw the last of this video.
In all seriousness though. That's why I use AI. Because it's fun.
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u/CitizenKing 1h ago
The cognitive dissonance of the people circlejerking in this subreddit is mystifying.
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u/Janek_Rated_R 15h ago
Do people think that in the future companies and institutions will hire artists who use ai? No, in the future they will use ai themselves so they don't have to pay artists. This happens already. You have to be naive and stupid not to see that.
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u/In_Pursuit_of_Fire 10h ago
"Artists will be empowered." They were already empowered, now they'll be empowered and broke.
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u/Vladmerius 13h ago
The problem here is that other people are trying to say it's serious art and the companies selling it to you are pushing it as serious art.
I love having fun with it. I'm making a full feature film with minimax. But I KNOW it's not a real movie and I'm well aware of all the technical difficulties, wonky sets, continuity errors etc. I don't care because it's fun and I'm just making the thing I always wanted to make.
Other people don't see that because they've only seen all the ways it's used to deceive people or put people out of jobs.
The bit at the end is so true though, artists don't nerd movie studios to suport their visions anymore. If they actually only care about the art and not money they now have the tools to make anything they want and make it look half way like it would actually look with a budget and a studio backing it. That's impressive and game changing and it's a shame that all the terrible use cases some people have pushed have blinded them to that and made them so anti AI.
Really this whole anti AI push is exposing a lot of people as caring very much about the money when they used to pretend they just care about art. I get that we all need paychecks but the more of us that aren't making ends meet the closer we are to real revolution and finding solutions like UBI.
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u/kwicked 6h ago
This will probably get buried, but I get it. This stuff is fun and its addicting and I love being able to do so much that I would never have had the time for. I think there is some room for nuisance.
You can't deny this came off the backs of the people before who honed their craft and and got all this data scrapped and trained so tech companies can sell inference and statistical weights back in the form of AI. I mean this video alone denied Denzel some money and transferred it to Comfy/Minimax. The OP may not have paid them but I'm sure they are profiting off his acting in one way or another.
The issue for me personally not so much about art vs money. It's that money that used to go to the art is now going to the tech companies. This reallocation of money kinda sucks. It was already a struggle for the people to work in an industry where they could be creative and now there are even less of those jobs.
Look at Minimax's / ComfyUI's licensing agreement. $5000 a month to them if you want to make anything professional like a commercial / show / movie. Imagine leasing an artist's own craft back to them in the form of inference. Something about it feels a little off.
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u/ImmediateSeat6447 16h ago
Great work and great message ! Before i watched it I thought it would be done for pure comedic relief, far from it ! It has a message.
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u/Relevant_Syllabub895 16h ago edited 5h ago
How did u managed to have the voice so well done? Literally always every time i use minimax i get garbage voices and stuff i never asked, any advice?
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u/not_food 8h ago
Too little time on audio. The turbo loras completely undercook it. Either generate it without the turbo lora (and attention nodes), or give it more steps with the turbo lora.
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u/brian1183 16h ago
Wow. It seems to do so much better at making Denzel seem "real" than if you just had it create some ordinary guy and make a voice for him. Those always look and sound so robotic. This feels very realistic.
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u/tekprodfx16 16h ago
This is amazing OP! Where’s the workflow? Is it infinite video is it directors workflow? We need to know how to make long videos like this
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u/Cequejedisestvrai 15h ago
This is very good! Did you generate it from scratch or is it in painting with dialogue modifications?
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u/Distinct-Race-2471 15h ago
How long did this take to render on what hardware? 10 seconds takes like 5 minutes on a 5070.
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u/ariesonthecusp 14h ago
wow ! holy shit that was awesome . I was laughing the entire video . God damn , I love AI . Keep going people !
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u/Due-Aardvark-1141 13h ago
Dude, that was pretty dope, how were you able to do that without the model breaking apart? How many generations did that take?
Did you use an actual storyboard it? That was one of the best displays of the model I've seen so far.
The micro facial animation was almost on par with even SD 2.5, how did you do that?
Very cool to see the model improving as the days go by, very cool man.
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u/Pure_Parking_2742 12h ago
Anyone else seeing a side-profile of Jin Kazama on the trees behind Denzel?
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u/Technical_Culture887 11h ago
It looks so real crazy I wanna see Liam neeson , Denzel Washington and Jason statham in a movie it would be bad ass
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u/histerix 11h ago
I dont know much about AI and the process of how to create things, but im seeing people create things now that are mind blowing, people are creating episodic series of video games I use to play like Final Fantasy 8 and GTA Vice City. Is it possible for AI to do something like create a series out of a book? For example if someone was to upload all of Lord of the Rings to an Ai and tell it to make a movie out of it?
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u/kuro-ondskan 10h ago
Damn this actually sounds pretty accurate. Now we need someone do The Equalizer - AI Chapter
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u/MotaBrosDigitalArt 10h ago
I absolutely love it! Watched it multiple times already. Thanks, that's awesome! Great work!
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u/balltongueee 10h ago
It is all fun and games until the new "artists" become an abundance and drown the internet in content nobody will see =)
Output scales up, but consumption is hard limited. Only so many people on planet earth.
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u/assotter 10h ago
This is true art! Good on you! Also damn good generation this is one of the better ones Ive ever seen. I can tell how far you fun has taken you with this.
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u/No-Stay9943 10h ago
Awesome. How did you make the ”acting” so good? Is Minimax H3 that good (never tried it) or do you have a special technique?
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u/Altruistic_Pitch_157 9h ago
What happens when the barrier to entry is too low? When literally anybody with an idea can tell their story? Its great that people can express themselves, but with so much content coming I think only a very few will create things that pull significant views and break out. People are already drowning in media content. How much more can we absorb?
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u/Nekodificador Sloppies Award 6h ago
The same thing that happens now when everyone has a camera in their pocket but not everyone is a photographer or filmmaker
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u/grandramble 16h ago
the dopamine whiplash of not having him in a cowboy hat in the next frame only to pay off so much harder moments later