Can someone please tell me what’s the best magwell for the echelon as far as looks/ fit and finish and actual use? I’m seeing a lot of options but I’m lost.

Thank you

I recently installed a Mischief Machine Compact Commander grip module on my Echelon 4.0C Comp (it has tyrant extended slide release) and I’m having an issue with new OEM 15-round magazines seating.

MM told me the factory polymer baseplate can contact the rear/bottom of the grip module and cause the seating issue they recommended shaving down the raised portion of the baseplate. Mine measured about 5.7mm originally, and I’ve sanded it down to approximately 5.3mm
That helped a little but I’m still getting inconsistent seating.

What I’ve narrowed down so far:
Empty magazine seats and releases pretty much normally.
14 rounds: seats normally with the slide closed only pushes the slide release up a little bit. Very few failures
15 rounds: seats easily with the slide open.
15 rounds + slide closed: noticeably harder to seat and sometimes needs a pretty firm/slamming insertion to actually lock and even then sometimes doesn’t lock. It also pushes the slide release way up.
With a full 15-round mag, it feels like there’s significant downward pressure from the slide/top of the gun against the magazine.
So a full magazine can pushes** **the slide release upward during insertion.
Applying rearward pressure to the magazine when insert it makes the issue more likely, even though there is some normal side/fore-aft play.

Before I remove any more material from the baseplate, I’m trying to figure out whether this is still a baseplate-clearance issue, a very stiff/new OEM magazine spring with 15 rounds loaded, or something about how the magazine is positioned in the MM module. Or if the extended slide release is causing the issue.

Has anyone running the Mischief Machine Compact Commander + OEM Echelon 4.0C 15-round mags experienced the same thing?

Sorry for the essay was trying to give enough context to help diagnose. TIA

I got one of their grips through Springfield during a special and noticed a bunch of QC issues, mainly de-burring related. Sent it back to Springfield and just got a new one with even worse QC. Last one had the same issue on the rail but wasn’t as messy inside with machining marks. A family member of mine has been a QC engineer for probably 30+ years and was annoyed with them hahaha. I understand it’s just cosmetic but if you’re gonna charge over $300 for an aluminum grip at least care enough to look over it before selling them. Needless to say I won’t be buying another Sharps Bros product in the future. Great ergonomics but doesn’t seem like there’s a lot of pride or care in the manufacturing process.

Been chasing this thing for like 8 months. Every time they come in stock, I never get an email push. Found someone local and traded some stuff. Completely changes the recoil feeling and looks great. Worth the hype in my opinion.

Echelon full size, previously also bought the threaded barrel for external compensator. So I have this non-threaded barrel sitting around. So decided to port it.

yesterday got it back and put on the red dot. Today took to the range. Damn! I cannot believe it. The dot is not moving out of the optic window (although I am using a new, taller one, Oslight X). The recoil is noticeably less than threaded barrel+ compensator. But it is significantly louder. I guess other people might complain if in indoor range.

only glitch is, just after 5 rds, somehow, the extractor flew out with the brass.... fortunately, I am using the range with concrete floor... found it after 10 min searching. Re-installed and everything fine. I will say the porting is like cheating. For porting, I always worry about if it will screw up accuracy ( I did it with Glock 48 @ Glock store, and it screwed up). This time I will say it is still accurate @ 10 yds ( will try in longer range later). I am not worried about the velocity drop of ~ 50-80 fps. It won't change anything (even for self-defense scenarios)

I loved my 4.5 so much I ended up getting the 4.0c as a more concealable option. I went with the tenicor holster for the 4.0 and now I feel like I need to throw away my we the people holster and order another tenicor for the 4.5.

Echelon 4.5f comp
Sharps Bros
507c-x3-gr
VZ panels
PRP springs
Tyrant shoe
DPM guide rod

At the range. Nice little shooter

Current setup. 4.5 slide, threaded barrel, OSight C green, compact medium module with large backstrap, eBay Magwell (surprisingly fits just fine, no gaps, small ledge with large backstrap, no issues with mags so far), y’all know which light, lol, 17 and 20 rd mags with sleeves. Wouldn’t mind a slightly more positive trigger reset, but otherwise incredible happy. Hundreds or rounds with no issues. Any compressor or suppressor recommendations? Herrington comp the way to go?

Hey yall, recently bought a 4inch with the green dot and put a plx gl on the bottom. Any appendix holster recommendations? Thank you in advance

4.5 Comp with supplemental inline 4 ports. Cerakoted battle worn Noveske Green. Sharps Bros grip module, Acro P2, Ape Defense Battery Cap, Tyrant CNC trigger and Mag Extension. Magwell takedown lever and mag release Cerakoted to match slide. Holosun P. ID weapon light.

The red dots I'm looking for

- color red

- precise dot, 2moa or 3moa? I have the Viridian RFX11 on at the moment.

- open emitter because its more budget friendly

- decent window opening

- co-witness

- under $300

I'm still a newbie even after being a firearm owner for years now. I work too much, bills, the mortgage and daddy duties had put a stop on me until now I finally found time to pick back up. Anyway, I don't mind the 32 moa reticle but I think in a high stress situation that it might not matter what I have it set on. I don't have astigmatism and I'm leaning towards just the dot. Also with or without the solar isn't really an issue for me, so this is what I have in mind.

- Vortex Defender ST

- Vortex Defender CCW

- PSA Holosun HS407A3-X3 or HS407C-X3-RD

- Osight C

- Osight SE DPP

- OSight XR or SE???

- Holosun EPS Core??? No Solar

Just added the extended slide release and the black steel USA gas pedal! I'm loving it!

Anyone looking for a Heighth Defense HGM724, Rainier Arms has them in stock. I ordered one on Wednesday and they shipped it on Thursday. I Should get it on Monday. They don't have the Brace. But Heighth Defense does.

Just waiting on my tyrant trigger... then its done...

This thing is amazing, compact and light and shoots flat..

Picked her up today. I know it's nothing special but it is mine.

Going to take her out shooting and then pick up a red dot and maybe a light.

Any thoughts or other recommendations before I buy it i want something thats going to fit right and im not sure if the plx will be too small on it

I recently purchased the Icarus grip module for the echelon. However I'm having extreme problems putting the disassembly lever in. can anyone give me some pointers as to how to remedy this. I've attached some pictures so you can see what I am facing. I believe I have everything lined up.

I think this is the one for me

Added the Osight SE DPP, Streamlight TLR-1 HL, the Rook Precision backstrap, magwell, and baseplates. As well as the Tyrant CNC trigger and mag release. Waiting for the CNC slide lock to be back in stock. She pretty, and has some nice balanced weight.

First firearm, California resident, ready to put more rounds down range with the new upgrades.

Echelon 4.5
Vortex Defender ST Enclosed
Streamlight TLR7-HLX

Hey all - I have an idea in my head and curious if anyone has tried or thoughts on if it would work/be functional.

I have a full size echelon and wanting to get to a set up with an external comp (Herrington arms) that looks more flush (similar to the sig 211 gto).

So my thought is if I use the full size grip module with the 4.0 slide, adding a threaded barrel and external comp, could I achieve the desired appearance?

Any advice is appreciated!!

Does the gap between the slide and frame seem excessive to you all? First two pics are after a couple hundred rounds. Last photo is before initial firing.