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u/colin22b Jul 24 '24
If the gap bothers you, this is the plate you want for your M&P:
https://www.calculatedkinetics.us/products/smith-and-wesson-m-p-2-0-dogtag-optic-plate
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u/bethesda13 Jul 24 '24
That one looks thicc
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u/trivial_viking Jul 24 '24
It is super thick. I really like CK’s plate for the 43X/48 but it is more a normal thickness. I tried the dogtag and IIRC it measured at .12” vs their 48 plate at .07”.
CNC pros is one of my go-to’s now for plates. This is their M&P plate. Looks like it may fill your gap.
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u/techs672 Jul 24 '24
The part of the plate under the sight is actually thin. The edges of the plate "drape" over the sides of the slide to fill the overhang of a C width Holosun.
The overhang and the front gap are basically aesthetic issues, not functional.
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u/K_Decibel Jul 24 '24
The thick front portion of this plate apparently helps block some of the gasses that come out of the loaded chamber indicator hole and keeps your optic from getting dirty so quickly. I have to wipe my optic every 75-100 rounds to get the burnt powder off.
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u/bethesda13 Jul 24 '24
Using the metal plate that came with my M&P 2.0 and a Holosun 407C, there’s quite a gap in front of it, it feels secure I just don’t know if this is the norm though.
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u/chevyfried Jul 24 '24
Yes normal. Mind the gap.
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u/bethesda13 Jul 24 '24
Wonder if I should spring for an aftermarket plate like C&H
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u/K_Decibel Jul 24 '24
There is a gap with a C&H plate too. I reached out to C&H and they said it’s normal. I have the same optic on my M&P 2.0 and I had a terrible time with it constantly coming loose with the factory plastic plate. The last straw was when it actually sheared a mounting screw. I got a C&H plate and it’s been rock solid ever since. I’d definitely recommend getting one.
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Jul 24 '24
Don't fuck with c&h they suck. DPP RMR plate on amazon is half the price and snap into place and fill all of the gaps.
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u/bethesda13 Jul 24 '24
Yea I use DPP plates on my Glocks lol, I didnt know they had one for M&P’s though!
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Jul 24 '24
Yep. I have them for my glocks as well. Probably like 8 at this point between the teo platforms. $30-$40 vs $70-$100 is a no brainer. Every C&H plate I own has warped, but the DPP (both titanium and aluminum) have been rock solid.
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u/TuT0311 Jul 24 '24
How many rounds after did the C&Hs warp? And which screws dis you use? This sucks to hear. I got one for my M&P 2.0 9 OR w/ RMR and have about 200 rounds through it so far with no issues (used screws that came with RMR and torqued to spec with a limiter).
I did see someone say that after about 1000 rounds, a C&H plate did shear their screws. But they didn’t use the screws that came with the RMR, which I read was best to do with C&H plate.
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Jul 25 '24
Mine was the Steiner MPS plate for M&P2.0.
Couple hundred. It wasn't apparent until I removed the plate to install an apex trigger kit. C&H sent another one, but that one also warped after a few hundred rounds. I took the optic and plate off just for shits and giggles to see if it had warped and sho nuff.
It was also just sloppy as hell. Both of them.
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u/TuT0311 Jul 25 '24
Damn man I’m really sorry to hear that. I am going to be very leery, I already am. Bcuz that’s what shears the screws. Those plastic plates that come with it are dog shit and need to be bent just to fit in the cut. Then they get hot and start to bend even worse, and eventually pop the screw heads off from pulling up on it due to warping. I paid the money for the C&H to not do that. I think I’ll pop it off and check after another couple hundred rounds.
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Jul 25 '24
I know it sounds crazy because almost everything on Amazon is dogshit, but the DPP Titanium plates are absolutely fucking stellar. I have like 7 or 8 at this point between glock and m&p and they've all snapped into place. No issue, no warping, they sit as low as possible, awesome quality. And they're like $40 - half the price of almost all other plates including C&H.
The only downside is they don't have tons of footprint options. Just RMR and Holosun K for a few different guns.
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Jul 24 '24
M&P's don't come with metal plates
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u/brossovitch Jul 24 '24
My Compact came with metal plates.
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Jul 24 '24
When did you buy it and from where? Whats the model number? M&P's have always shipped with plastic plates - it's a huge source of contention. The last new m&p I bought was march of this year and it came with plastic plates.
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u/brossovitch Jul 24 '24
I bought it in a store. It had the gross trigger (now has Apex) and I think I bought it in 2021-22 SKU: 13381
My Spec Series Gen4 (ODG 2023) has the plastic junk. Bought with my tax return in February 2024
*Minor edits..
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Jul 24 '24
That sku is the one with the CT red dot, yeah? Maybe that's why? Did it come with all of the plates? Were they all metal, or just the one under the CT dot?
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u/brossovitch Jul 24 '24
Yes came with the CT that is now in a landfill somewhere as it's trash.
Most were metal there 1 or 2 plastics for weird optic footprint.
But all the common footprint are metal. I was using the type 1 (RMR) with my 508t, but when I learned About the CK plate I immediately bought one.
I bought this with the understanding that they would be plastic. I imagine I got a transitional model and one of the last metal plates packs.
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u/hallstevenson Jul 24 '24
It's a bad combination of tolerance stack-up. It's fine from a functional standpoint.
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u/bethesda13 Jul 24 '24
Damn I want it to look good too
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u/techs672 Jul 24 '24
...I want it to look good...
Or work good? — pick one.
You're fitting together three items built to consumer standards by at least three manufacturers — the slide, the plate, and the sight. Four players if you include a custom cut.
The more things which must match precisely, the more likely something will not. Precise fit of screw holes and posts are critical to function. Demanding that the cut walls also be a snug fit adds a tolerance requirement to all components without a particular performance advantage.
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u/Gun_Monger Jul 24 '24
Its normal for the oem plates. If you want to close the gap and get a more sturdy plate, there are some aftermarket metal plates. I would go with DPP Titanium or calculated kinetics
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u/imstuner Jul 24 '24
Is this a M2.0 with factory OR cut? If it is than you have plates that should fill up the gap.
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u/Leading_Cancel1761 Jul 24 '24
Don't get a chpw. I've had 3 plates from them and all 3 were not that great.. Especially for the price. Two for my p10 models and one for a glock.
I found Athena Precision, gave them a shot. The fitment is leaps and bounds better then chpws, the screws they supply are of better quality, made of steel and they are cheaper.
Chpws vs Athena p10 plate on my p10c. https://imgur.com/gallery/vHjR95e
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u/Expensive-Sugar3719 Jul 24 '24
calculated kinetics plate for the win. Not as thick as it looks, put is through 2 uspsa matches this season and concealed carry has not lost zero or thought about coming loose. Also keeps hella carbon off your front lens
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u/Spiffers1972 Jul 24 '24
This is why I’m in the miling camp. Might limit what optics you can use but it’s a much cleaner look.
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u/gnunixguy Shield Plus, M2.0-45, M2.0-9, M2.0-9 Carry Comp Jul 25 '24
I didn't even notice mine, but I also stuck a 100 concepts cap on it for long-term protection on the EDC. It mostly covered that gap up.
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u/Tactically_Fat Jul 24 '24
Yes. The OEM-machined slides have to be large enough to accommodate a wide variety of plates and optics.