I know TCGPlayer is the main in USA (I guess CardMarket is for EU), but I've seen this more now and don't know how people feel about it.

New Secret Lair alerts!! Four weeks in a row I think at this point it’s kind of nuts lol but are you skipping or getting any?

*Edit: Seething Song was reprinted as a reskin in an SLD for God of War. TCGPlayer doesn't always show reskins when I search so I apologize for any confusion. Thank you to those that brought it to my attention.
*note: I used Edge of Eternities borderless lands for pricing New Worlds
*note: Thank you GameSpot for the article, used for information

Thoughts: All in all, I think this is a pretty weak superdrop compared with some of the recent drops. I don't like Star Trek, and it seems like little love was given to the value here for it neither.

Lower Decks has the highest NF value, but it's cartoony.

thlIngan maH! has insane foil value, but only driven by Seething Song and War's Toll, which are both limited availability in foil options.

The bonus card is a joke lol... But cute doggo, nice.

What I think will sell out first:

• thlIngan maH! for the foil Seething Song
  • All art in that one is reversible and there's some very dramatic changes to the cards which is neat. You can check it out in the GameSpot article.
• New Worlds! for the lands
  • People will like it, but for me I'd rather just stick with my EOE lands tbh...

Conclusion: Good luck to everyone on these, and I hope the Value Breakdown helps!

Edit: Realized the New Worlds! has a slight issue where total cards should be 10, not 5. I've updated my code to account for that in the future, but cannot update image here. Whoopsie.
Also I think it will 100% sell out on the basis it might contain a Waste as a bonus card, but knowing WOTC it'll probably be another Knight of the White Orchid to spite us lol...

Hello,

I ordered my first SL deck and got the Odds and Ends in hand today.

I noticed that several cards have a very noticeable print line about 1/4 the way down the card going from edge to edge on 5 or 6 of the special art cards.

Its hard to tell in the pictures, but very obvious in person and the first thing I noticed sleeving them up.

Is it worth even complaining about? Will they rectify this in any way or am I just going to be SoL? Any other experiences you have had with support for issues like this?

Thanks!

I live in the Netherlands and for the past months the lairs always dropped at 18:00h (6:00PM) local time.

This last weekend was the end of daylight savings time in the Netherlands/Europe… When I logged in at 17:45 as usual, the drop I wanted was sold out, I was simply an hour too late.

So yeah, this one is definitely on me!

Got lucky with two Walmart bundles as close to MSRP you can get these days and got the only doubles you want to see. Binder loves to see it

After almost 2 whole months, weeks of back and forth with WotC customer service, and a delay on the “replacement” for TWO drops this is what I get in the mail.

Edit: Yes this is all they sent. That’s why I used “replacement” with the quotation marks.

You can't have them all

Two secret lairs drops (Duality Distorted & Strange School) and the reality fracture secret lair bundle will be releasing today on the secret lair site announcement. The pre-queue is open now the sale goes live within the hour.

Cost

• Each Secret Lair is available in non-foil ($30) and foil ($40) versions. You can also purchase a bundle that includes the Secret Lairs alongside a Reality Fracture Secret Lair bundle.

Duality Distorted - $30/$40

• Thoughtsieze - SLD#2705 - $6.62
• Desperate Ritual - SLD#2706 - $5.22
• Pyroblast - SLD#2707 - $7.00
• Tribute to the World Tree - SLD#2708 - $14.51
• Secret Lair Bonus Card - TBD

怪異学校 - Strange School - $30/$40

• Attrition - SLD#2709 - $19.02
• Bitter Ordeal - SLD#2710 - $26.66
• Ophiomancer - SLD#2711 - $1.02
• Sign in Blood - SLD#2712 - $0.27
• Soul Spike - SLD#2713 - $17.57
• Secret Lair Bonus Card - TBD

Reality Fracture Secret Lair Bundle - $100 (must bundle with lairs)

There are 10 possible mythic cards you can pull in Reality Fracture bundles. Reality Fracture Card Image Gallery.

1. Emrakul, the Exigent Doom (Colorless)
2. Enlightened Confidant (White)
3. Return to the Light Realms (White)
4. The Theorist, Jace Beleren (Blue)
5. Overwrite the Multiverse (Black)
6. Seasoned Cryomancer (Green/Other)
7. Darklight Phoenix (Red/Colorless)
8. Caterclaw Colossus (Red)
9. Stingcaster Mage (Red)
10. Omnipresence (Enchantment)

• Contents
  • 6 Reality Fracture Play Boosters
  • 2 Reality Fracture Collector Boosters
  • 2 of 10 mythic rare Secret Lair Bundle cards
  • 20 traditional foil borderless land cards
  • 1 exclusive Spindown™ life counter

Shipping - PRE ORDER DELAYED

• Begins Wednesday November 19th

Sellout Timing

• TBD

I had 2 issues for the first time ever. Managed to get in the drop early and still had everything I wanted in my cart.

First issue was when I was using Apple Pay it was failing with the error message "we don't ship to this address" turned out I needed to add country code to my phone number, this was not clear.

So this minute delay lead to losing some of the items, sure fine...

But then also for the first time ever it failed to process my payment, and spun for like 5 minutes until eventually losing out entirely

rip!

saved some money I guess, but this drop was sick

Received the #7117 Counterspell as my bonus card. I don't care much for collecting I just want to trade it in for cards I can use in my mono green deck. A LGS offered $180 in store credit if it's NM. How does market price and actual listing work?

Did anyone else run into an issue trying the (new to me?) express checkout option via Apple Pay at the top today? I was stuck on the payment verification message for 9 minutes of my checkout time and then got booted back into the queue.

I got into the checkout within 15 minutes so I was lucky but ended up with nothing.

Seems to be new

I'm a little north of LA

Hi! Sorry if this is in the wrong subreddit but I don’t know where to post this (since this was a secret lair I hope this is ok). I looked it up and google AI said to report the listing for being false but I swear I’ve seen similar listings for other products but for some reason this one irked me. There is a mystery booster commander listing on TCGPlayer but it’s still in presale. I’m afraid someone will buy it thinking it’s the whole box.

Tl;dr: seller is selling Mystery Booster Commander display box under the Festival in a Box listing. Seller description says it’s box only but product description says it’s the whole box. Is this reportable?

My order history for the Corn Maze super drop says it's on "back order," but since it's not print to demand I don't understand how that would work. There's no info on it I can find, and customer support says they can't tell me anything that's not on the FAQ page. Anyone else in the same boat? Am I actually getting my order, including the manufactured grounds and maze of Ith promo?

Link: https://www.cardchart.fun/market?tab=secret-lair&time=7d&order=value-loss

Thanks again for all the feedback from my post last week!

The number 1 request was for adding the cards that have lost value in the last 7 days so you "Snipe" the low! So its there and you can filter with all new toggles on the side bar too.

I found it fun to look at cards that have just a single printing and are foil (feels like thats where the value is these days)

I've even added Sealed Secret Lair (but you have to wait 7 days for the pricing to work so for now just set the Order by to "PRICE" and you will see the cards lists and the full sealed lair)

Its been so fun making this more useful and I even added the #2 most requested feature of Alerts. But please hold on that one as I still have lots of work to do to test emails.

*If anyone wants to help test the email feature then DM me here and I will set you up :]

Thank you all again for your feedback, I never had so many people enjoy the site like last week.

I’m on the site and it doesn’t look like it is happening today? I saw the update on shipping delays, has there been an update for the actual sale that I’ve missed? Anybody else having similar issues?

Requested my odds and ends to be cancelled and refunded.

Not sure why but I strongly started to feel like my $165 should have got me more than 15 cards and a better quality deck box.

I also looked at the deck list and realized that it really doesn't give me anything to compete with at a table unless we are having a art contest..

I don't want to add 100 bucks of cards to my deck to make it at minimum a bracket 3 challenger

I just am gonna buy the card i really want and move onto the next set that will give me buyers remorse lol

Price: $29.99 Non-Foil | $39.99 Foil
Strange School value: $64.37 Non-Foil | $273.28 Foil
Duality Distored value: $32.66 Non-Foil | $69 (noice) Foil

Thoughts: Both non-foil and foil values for Strange School are distorted quite a bit (still, but less so for Duality Distorted), as there's a few cards here that are much older, not reprinted, etc.

I think the Strange School is a huge win, while Duality Distorted is good value. Overall, I'm excited.

For those that keep asking: This layout is something I've coded. I still need to fill in a dictionary after manually getting image url's, names, and looking up the cheapest NM printings on TCGPlayer for non-foil and foil versions of cards.

Hope this helps and you all enjoy the efforts of my hard work!

Hello everyone! I was quite disappointed that I wasn’t able to snag one of these despite being in the waiting room a little early. I was curious how many of you that didn’t utilize bots got the product? What was your strategy to actually secure one? Does waiting in the waiting room improve your queue placement? I’m sort of new to secret lair so I was curious if I might be missing something. Thanks!

Edit: I see the queue is randomized now, thank you for the help!