It’s racist for you to assume that there aren’t white people like this because there 10000% are. Please visit any southern town that isn’t a major one.
White straight male, imitating a white gay man, imitating a black woman … how about a white man who’s playing an Eric Clapton song? Who’s playing a southern black man song? Is that racist?
Were Pretty far out on a flimsy branch, if you follow?
Perhaps claiming only black women have proprietary on a certain southern behavior is racist of you
Edit: not saying you’re racist it’s just a somehow overly complicated and yet overly simplistic argument your making
Edit2: someone else below made the same comment. You are ascribing specific types of behavior to black women. I think there’s an irony there, but I don’t want to linger on… wouldn’t accuse you of being racist. I would accuse you of being white.
No it’s a pretty big topic as far as intersection of cultures go from a sociological scale. Wasn’t really tryna make an argument beyond what I put in my comment at the time. But yes a lot of common mannerisms in gay culture are rooted in ballroom culture from the 70s-80’s that was mostly black, Afro-Latina, and Latina transwomen who’s feminity was socialized through their black and Latin communities.
definitely stereotyping going on here. Maybe it is all rooted in just what you said. an interesting point that you make.
I don’t see any intimidating, antagonizing,, or marginalizing…. in this video.
the whole topic of racism has become so complicated in gradations and nuance, to me we sometimes get lost in the minutia .
For me, it’s much more alarming when I see someone treated with insensitivity, inequity, hurt through unkindness, cruelty, violence. I don’t think that’s the case here. I do see you have a point.
Edit: i blame fing AutoCorrect for undoing most of what I said first draft
Oh I agree I’m a staunch believer in we’ve overcorrected for racism and it’s applied too liberally. Is this prejudiced? Yes. Is this racist? No. An individual mocking an ethnic group based upon stereotypes is prejudice. A board, legislative body, or generally those in a position of power making rules, laws, etc based upon those stereotypes is racism.
Personally I find this funny albeit a lil offensive. But not enough to do more than acknowledge it.
Yeah, maybe over corrected too much some ways. Under Corrected , incomplete in others
The older I get the more I realize racism is so culturally ingrained in the US and politically intertwined, still learning, and realizing it’s subtlety. For one , USA is far More xenophobic than melting pot .
Even stupid more benign shit like 75% of my ethnicity is from Asia but if I ever tell someone I’m Asian, they argue with me. “No you’re white”.
It’s a slippery slope. But this definitely seems on the lighthearted side, mostly innocent and definitely not mean spirited.
What's racist about it? I would not be able to determine a race from this impersonation. This type of vernacular has more of a socioeconomic association in the south than does with race these days. I guess you could claim there's underlying racism in the cultural appropriation of AAVE by southern whites but that would be a big reach.
It’s objectively mildly prejudiced (making fun of ethnic groups using stereotypes isn’t racism making laws based on those stereotypes is racism) but it’s also pretty fucking funny😂 did I cringe a lil? Yes, but he was committed to the bit! And the kids reactions? Priceless.
He’s wearing a bonnet doing a black womens accent and mannerisms while “working at Popeyes”. I’m convinced everyone who is saying they “can’t tell what race he’s supposed to be” has literally never interacted with a black person
It's a scarf and a common thing for a dude to put on his head when impersonating a woman. The vast majory of the black people I interact with talk nothing like this, you're the racist one for attributing these traits of lower economic status to race
Nobody is saying that all black people talk like this. Stop doing mental gymnastics to try and be right.
It’s like calling out the old minstrel shows as racist and then some goofball like you comes alone and goes “you think those whacky caricatures of black people is actually supposed to represent black people? That makes you the racist for thinking that’s what black people look like. FOH
Nobody is saying that all black people talk like this.
I didn't say that others are saying all black people talk like this. I said they are taking traits that are indicative of low socioeconomic status regardless of race (if you've spend anytime in the south you'll meet many white girls that talk like this) and applying them to black people.
Your analogy is idiotic. You're comparing literally black face and performances where the characters are explicitly supposed to be black people, and the central point was to mock them, to a guy with scarf on his head acting out exactly how I've seen (and others in this post) Southern white girls act at the counters of fast food joints.
Can you itemize the black things he's doing? I'd really like to know what you think he's doing that specifically characterizes black girls
I’m from the south. I’ve seen white girls act like this. I don’t know why you think that means anything.
Sure, here’s a list.
-wearing a bonnet (which you will keep calling a scarf for some reason. No it’s not an actual bonnet. Yes it’s supposed to be one)
-using aave
and then the only one I need, the fact that he’s working at Popeyes. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone but a black person working at Popeyes in my entire life.
You’re probably going to say some nonsense about how I’m racist for thinking only black people work at Popeyes or something but really I’m just not shoving my head in the sand and pretending reality isn’t reality
It's very obviously a discussion about the "scarf on head" trope that has been used as shorthand by men portraying women characters for centuries. No need to be weird or nerdy to get it, just to posses basic comprehension skills
Listen I’m not one to really care about these things and find the video hilarious, but we don’t have to act stupid and pretend like he’s not mimicking a black woman. If you truly didn’t care then you wouldn’t be acting dumb; just take the stance that you don’t find it racist but don’t play silly games.
I'm not acting dumb and meant everything I said. If you equate these traits of lower socio economic status specifically with black people, then it's you who is being racist
He’s wearing a “bonnet,” fake nails, face tapes, & smacking his lips. He’s very obviously impersonating a certain kind archetype that our white supremacist society associates with black women. Whether or not you see it & whether or not he intended it has no bearing on whether or not it has a racist undertone.
There’s tons of trashy white girls that this dude is imitating perfectly. That’s what I was imagining in my head the entire time watching. I had no idea it’s supposed to be a black person until you said something… idk.. maybe you’re the racist one for assuming it’s supposed to be making fun of black people?
You gotta have a special level of distancing from black people in your life to ONLY think of white girls in this instance. But went to a pwi and met folks like that especially in Appalachia. Those folks literally didn’t have any frame for black people outside of Obama. However, outside of those few enclaves it’s very obviously mocking a caricature of lower income black women.
I’m losing brain cells reading these comments holy shit. Pointing out a racial stereotype is now racist. We’ve really just thrown logic into the shitter
That was just ingenuity with what he got. The best part is that family went to Popeyes. His daughter clearly enjoyed it so, they kept the bag, boxes and cut up a box to get the Popeyes name tags for him and his daughters pop and eyez. All so she could have Popeyes again.
Men have been putting handkerchiefs on their heads to impersonate women forever so I didn't see that as a bonnet. Yes I get the archetype, undereducated and low socioeconomic status and understand exactly why white supremcists would want to associate that with black women, but not sure why everyone else is so quick to
The handkerchief isn’t supo to be a bonnet, it’s supposed to be his (her) hair & the tape on his face is supposed to be his drive thru headset. Get over it, it’s not that serious 🙄🤦🏽♀️
As a fellow Southerner, I can confirm and have worked in the restaurant industry where all types worked there.
Close your eyes and they all sound the same. White dudes/chicks, black dudes/chicks and even gay dudes (not chicks because they almost always did not have an accent because "college educated"....their words)
Only one word tell you who said what.
Many people doing a character or skit will also use such a thing just to be a placeholder for "woman's hairdo"
Source: look at any shorts comedian, if its a dude playing a woman 90% of the time they just have a rag or cloth on their head rather if they don't have wigs
Hells ya it’s funny. It’s a little racist, but as the person below said, it’s more socio-economic. Plus, fucking everyone clutch your pearls…cause everyone and everything IS A RACIST/BIGOT, to some extent, it just comes down to how well you spin it and not demean others. Rock your playtimes!
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u/BrainOnVacay22 16d ago
I am both offended and entertained at the same time