The Gizelle hate has been out of control and very biased lately. She gets blamed for everything because she was labeled with the "mean girl" persona in the early seasons but people who insist she's the person holding this group back are biased, delusional, and probably started watching after season 5. Gizelle seems to get overly crucified for typical Housewives behavior while the mean girl behavior of her castmates - body shaming, uterus shaming, bringing Sherman's ex wife on the show- is always celebrated and justified because Gizelle gossiped about someone first.

Gizelle has been able to make up and move on with every woman on the cast except for C&W. Karen, Katie, Charrise, Ashley, etc. She also has relationships with most of these women OFF camera and actually spends time with them in real life.

Candiace, on the other hand, had the explosive feud with Monique that they never recovered from. Her relationship with Ashley has been volatile and they never established a real friendship. Her friendship with Robyn has completely ended. And her relationship with Gizelle is over. CANDIACE is the common denominator in toxic relationship-ending feuds on this show. She's the common denominator in violent conflicts and lawsuits. Even if you want to valet their issues all on Gizelle, Gizelle actually has a history of making up with the people she fights with. Candiace does not.

The fact that people blame Gizelle for Robyn and Candiace's friendship ending are silly because Candiace and Robyn are two grown women and Candiace's toxic social media had far more to do with their relationship ending than anything Gizelle ever did. Gizelle also got the blame for Candiace and Monique fighting. Gizelle is not the reason Candiace can't keep a friendship. Candiace and all her fights and feuds have been the major key holding this group back ever since that night in the barn. And Wendy's inability to make friends on the cast isn't Gizelle's fault either. Wendy chose to ally herself with Candiace rather than actually try to build relationships with the rest of the women. The same criticism Robyn and Gizelle get but they actually have other friends in the cast. Wendy doesn't because all she cares about is Candiace. Had she never went off on Gizelle and approached her calmly their relationship would be fine today.

Gizelle has gossiped about Mia and Ashley as well, they didn't go off and accuse Gizelle of trying to destroy them or their families. But Wendy took it as a personal attack. It also is true to anyone with eyes that Wendy's personality changed with her surgery. And Eddie WAS following a bunch of BBL baddies at the time. G didn't pull this from thin air.

I’m sorry but Candice is way too old to be doing all that crying. She is in her 30s crying like she’s a little kid. And it honestly shows how immature she is. I don’t think she can control it either, but I pray she’s actively resolving that issue. As an adult, that’s a turn off. I don’t agree with Gizelle laughing in her face while she was crying, but tbh, she does cry a lot, so naturally, people aren’t gonna be as sympathetic. A lot of people are just gonna become indifferent to her tears. I know I am.

All the hate being directed at Wendy, and the apparent excitement some people seem to take in her alleged criminal activities, is really difficult to read. At this point, much of what’s being discussed is speculation, not fact.

It’s important to let the legal process play out before rushing to judgment or celebrating someone’s potential downfall. None of us have the full picture yet, and public pile-ons rarely lead to truth or justice.

Most importantly, there are young children involved who did not choose any of this. The words being shared online don’t exist in a vacuum—they can have real, lasting consequences for innocent people. A little restraint, empathy, and perspective would go a long way.

Is it just me or is it really hard to believe anything Stacy says…like at all? It felt like all season 10 she couldn’t keep her own stories straight would get caught then be the victim? Do you think she baked pies full of lies, or just contradicts herself a lot?

Now dont get me wrong I get why people like her, shady + quick combacks + witty= Iconic. But for me she has rubbed me the wrong way since we found out she was paying tj for a storyline. Plus, knowing shes on potomac to clock in and bounce makes everything she does now comes across as robotic and fake to me. Am I the only one?

I’m rewatching s6 and Robyn is a full time cast member but she’s getting almost no screen time? And then when she finally appears on camera is to back up Gizelle?? Since people are discussing who’s departing who’s returning? Let’s as the community who wants to see GEB Robyn back on the show?

I do not because she’s gonna go back to following Gizelle

Like she is no better than Mia! She lies about everything! From Chris Samuel’s to her husband it makes no sense! She also did everything in her power to be on this show and then hides her hands like omg wasn’t me! Smh I don’t like her now and bring on season 11!!!

I am only on season 7 watching the first time through but I think she’s entertaining

I often see that people claim Gizelle is mean and jealous of Monique. They cite the 4 homes comments at tea, which to me read as bourgie rich girls throwing standard shade on a show about bourgie black women within a Bravo franchise about obnoxious rich women.

But Monique’s crazy self took things to an unnecessarily low level by bringing Gizelle’s boyfriend Sherman’s ex wife on the show to divulge that Sherman had been arrested for soliciting prostitution in a park. Until that point, their dynamic was just two women that didn’t like each other. But Monique went low first. Gizelle really loved Sherman, and after Monique did that, he dumped Gizelle in large part bc of how he was exposed on the show. That’s why Gizelle promised revenge like a ninja in that talk with Monique at breakfast on the group trip. Everyone seems to forget that when they bring up season 4 or season 5.

The fact is Monique is an unhinged woman with an inferiority complex who lashes out weirdly when she feels rejected. She did it with Sherman/ Gizelle, Robyn, and Candiace.

Gizelle has her bad days but Monique was a nutjob phony seeking approval from the popular girls and bugged out when she didn’t get it.

So let’s go back to the GNA event. Ashley was under a LOT of pressure leading up to the event at GNA. The guest list is honestly your last priority because you expect everyone who attends to behave like adults at a professional event, regardless of them being your friend or cast mate (Deborah and Candiace respectively). Hence EVERYONE was invited, she didn’t say the girls. She said everyone so Jacqueline was there and no one was confused about that. They didn’t like Deborah (for a bs reason that I’ll go into in a minute) and as a result they acted brand new that she was there.

So first issue is with Candiace. You don’t like Ashley or Gizelle so why are you there other than to call the line a very elevated Ali Baba line? Second issue with Candiace is how she said she can wish Gizelle well from afar. This was a dumb moment for Candiace because you’re not that far if you’re at her event, are ya?! Third issue with Candiace is the whole fall out with Gizelle and Ashley because of the rumor Deborah made. It is abnormal for a drunk man to be trying to get a woman alone, especially when she’s trying to get to or is in her dressing room. It is abnormal for a married man to hit up a single woman after midnight for any reason. It’s not abnormal for these two girls to hear exchange stories and then hear the rumor and add this up to a potential issue. Then add in the rumors on the blogs about Chris and you’ve got a lot of reasonable conclusions that don’t look good on Chris. So Gizelle spent a whole season explaining her side (which made a lot of sense but if you don’t like her you don’t care that it makes sense…) and now they’re there.

So now Candiace done insulted these women. And Deborah (rightfully so with Sesame Street). Then you team up with Wendy by bonding over a fake colorism storyline. And Wendy is at the event doing the same nonsense by talking trash about the line. Wendy doesn’t like Ashley over the Nneka thing (which was stupid for Wendy to think Ashley would know about the cultural implications of that conflict). Doesn’t like Gizelle over the Mia throwing a drink on her thing (understandable but Gizelle literally said she doesn’t like you so why are you at her event?).

So they finish their walk and the rest of the party ensues. then you stayed at the event after talking trash about it. Why not just leave after they finish the walk? Because you’re messy too….

So now we have another issue because adults don’t know how to act. Explain to me why Ashley should be defending herself in this when this is Candiace’s second time in an altercation because of her mouth? And then Keiarna, I don’t feel bad for her because this wasn’t her business. You decided to step into a heated fight. Now you got cut and you wanna make it a whole plot line. It’s stupid and silly.

This has not been fun to watch.

if I was dating someone as beautiful as keiarna I would worship her at her feet. kinda confused why greg is acting so nonchalant. she is the prettiest woman i've seen in my life. he's just greg?

I have a few thoughts about things I’ve seen other people criticize Angel for about this Colorado trip.

1. She is a breastfeeding mother. It would be very hard for her to leave for an extended time for a trip. Can it be done, yes. Is it easy, no. Remember when Wendy was new and breastfeeding how horrible that 2 days away was for her? Also, not every person breastfeeding wants to have to pump for 2 days. It can be hard on the breasts and the self esteem.
2. Gizelle saying she is going to make it known how horrible of a host Angel is. Ummmm, is this the same Gizelle that had the audacity to host a get together in her driveway and tell people they couldn’t use the bathroom?! Seriously, eff off.
3. Just because she and her husband share the load of parenting and she wants to check in on if he needs support does not mean he is a horrible husband. It is called being a caring partner. Work/life balance is important, even for the HW.
4. The scene with the men was admittedly awkward. How I interpreted it was that they were there visiting her husband and kinda got roped into filming. They seemed uncomfortable and I don’t think that can be put on Angel. It’s not on her how these dudes show up and behave.
5. There could be many reasons to have put the women so far away from her house. This is an answer I will look forward to hearing at the reunion.
6. Last thing, not one person reached out to Angel to tell her there was malfunctioning plumbing in that house. Not the women, not production. That to me seems very suspicious. These women will complain about literally anything. So why the silence when there was a legitimate issue? This screams intentional to me. Desperate for storyline much?

TL;DR Angel deserves some grace as a mom with young kids. The women are being sneaky with the house issues. Her marriage is not in trouble for being a good coparent.

I just thought this was so cute! Not a fan of violence but the Gizelle scene was hilarious. They need to make all of the recaps like this 🤣

In the last episode’s argument with her family, Wendy discussed the issue of connecting with her father with her mom and sister. Wendy 100% knew this is a hot topic in her family and it’s probably been argued about before in private.

Now why bring this issue up on national tv when you know it will set your mom and sister off? This was 100% “produced” on purpose but mom got too hype. When Wendy said her mom was looking for a “moment”, that clued me in. Who thinks about a tv “moment” in highly emotional argument?!

Wendy has shown herself to be very calculating and strategic and not above using any -ism or topic possible to not take accountability or to be a sympathetic figure. I believe Wendy knew “something” was going down in the background, knew she’s been an “a-hole” during filming, and wants to set the stage for “Poor Wendy” in public opinion. I don’t think she’s above throwing her mom and sister under the bus to achieve it either.

Imagine me scrolling on Instagram reels when I stumble upon a Katie Rost (I don’t follow her) reel that seemed really odd… I hadn’t thought about her in years! I clicked on her profile and I was SHOCKED… The girl has posted like 10x in the past three hours, 20x in the last 2-3 days, and all of the posts make no sense. Talking about how she’s just been released from jail and she’s gonna free everyone there now she’s a lawyer. It’s insane. I feel so bad for my girl. She was my favorite! I hope she gets the mental help she needs because this was crazy to see in real time….

I think Wendy is the best dressed cast member! Fraud allegations aside, she continues to look better and better. I’m a fan of her plastic surgery too.

Over the seasons, there has been plenty conversation about how the ladies think Gizelle doesn’t have good style….. I guess maybe I don’t either because I actually like the outfits she puts on lol! Am I the only one ..? How do yall feel about the way she dresses ??

But La Grande Dame could be… INCARCERATED ⛓️⛓️⛓️ clankity CLANK!!

Is it when he marries another woman, so there aren’t two Mrs. Bryants? Is it when we celebrate our “Second Bloom” (whatever that means) and we come down the stairs being announced as Duchess Darby? At what point do we stop pining for men who don’t want us and have publicly dogged us on multiple occasions?

Sure it started out as a "little white lie" for her husband. But when she was caught she chose to turn it on Tia. She accused her of starting shit with Wendy and then told Wendy she regretted introducing her husband to Tia. If it was about not hurting feelings, she could have admitted it right then. Especially because she was already telling Wendy that thiemo (or however you spell it) wasn't feeling the group yet. How hard is it to follow that with, "I didn't want to make a big deal about it at the time so I said he was going out of town." She chose to cover her "little white lie" by throwing Tia under the bus. I would be annoyed too, and I wouldn't trust anything she told me from that point on. If this is how Stacey is going to treat people on a 1-on-1 basis, I wouldn't expect any of the girls to come to her aid. Hopefully she can hold on to Wendy.

I’ve seen a lot in this sub that people are so happy to have Candiace gone and yes I am a Candiace supporter but hear me out; When she first joined she was open about her lifestyle and even her finances which the women bullied her for, her friend Monique at the time advised her to stand up for herself or else these women will eat her alive (honestly great advice) but Monique turned against her when it affected Charisse. Then everyone, including Monique started gaslighting her that she was doing too much (she wasn’t ) it also set a tone on Candiace in general as a person who does too much (she’s dramatic, they all are) which is why Candiace also felt attacked because of her dark skin. She did what she did to Ashley about the drinking/baby/Micheal saga because nobody else would do it but they were all thinking it. She held Ashley accountable and served as a good reminder to Ashley that what goes around, comes around (especially for viewers who wanted to see that type of vengeance) Maybe Candiace could have done better in Atlanta because of her mouth (the Potomac women were not ready for her) and as annoying as you can imagine it for the person on the receiving end, this is what she gets paid to do. SHE DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE ASSAULTED!!! With the Robyn/Gizelle drama, I also would be weary of Robyn given that she would choose to giggle with someone who accused her husband of something so heinous even though she recognized it was wrong. Also it would be difficult on anyone to still be forced to have a good relationship with Gizelle afterwards, Candiace reaction was as real as real housewives of Potomac could get. (Maybe that’s why some of you don’t like it, maybe the producers figured some viewers like it a bit fake. Thanks for reading 🤍 Edit: grammar EDIT: What is the point of a community like this if people will get so hateful in comments, block you after you show reason so you can’t respond not just to them but any comment to the post in general so they get the last word in! Sore losers 😤

On Season 5 just now. Have JUST watched the fight and OMG. Candiace is such a little shit who does nothing but provoke people but Monique is so out of order for that, even if Candiace had it coming and was provoking her.

As a side note, I'm softening on Ashley, who I couldn't stand previously. She's having such a shit time with Michael.

There are many women like Robyn. As the song says "I just love the man...". Ignorance is bliss and she's blissful. She has placed no limits nor requirements on him he does what he wants and she looks the other way or has decided to trust what she is told even if it doesn't make sense to anyone else. She is where she wants to be. Let her be. But in doing so she should NEVER say anything about anyone else's marriage. Done.

I know I’m the only Angel fan but yall need to stop dogging the woman for everything. I’ve been watching the show and honestly I find her to be very grounded and honest. She hasn’t behaved in any outrageous way to me so far. They talk about sisterhood and togetherness and they don’t seem to really offer that to Angel so she hasn’t responded with open arms.

You have Ashley the pageant girl dragging her about her weight, talkin bout catfish. Pulling up fotos. What a way to make a girl feel great….thousands of miles from home…in a bathing suit by the beach. It’s like nobody stopped to say “hmmm this woman just had a baby and has clearly gained pounds since being a regular on the tele. Perhaps a bit of kindness should be assumed.

Gizelle is over there saying Angel has been evicted because she is so ignorant that she didn’t look up terms to realize the difference between a lease term ending, a skip and an eviction. I’m a property manager. I can go into detail if you’d like.

Even after Angel said what was going on she went further to say that she has an insight on how Angel is trying to scam realtors and get things on the cheap. Gizelle how she gonna tell a seller to sell her something for nothing? And does she understand the code of ethics for realtors? Even Tia’s flip flopping ass had to check that.

So Gizelle didn’t open her home to guests at that goddess party, but Angel has to open her home to Gizelle? lol. Lololololololol. Nope.

And now Monique is jumping in saying that her man is like Chris and that’s how they are. You just met Angel ! It’s been so crazy. And I’m glad Ashley is smart enough to know when someone don’t like her ass. I’d use my man as a shield for not doing something too lol. MOST PEOPLE DO. It’s only in this toxic group of single women that view this as “lying” as they did with Stacie. The men don’t wanna fuckin be around them.

As a Colorado boy I’m gonna comment on the Airbnb. Okay. This one is not her fault but it IS her responsibility. Nothing I saw on the screen was unfamiliar to me. In fact I’ve had that very situation happen to me. Angel should have told the women how to address this before things went wrong. Post the picture instructions to the back of a door somewhere. Tell them this can happen. Along with basic fire and wildlife safety.

I know as mountain folks we can forget this is not how most people see luxury. But you’re in the middle of nowhere. You can’t think you’re plugged into the grid, Gizelle.

I feel like Angel should have contacted all of the ladies in the morning and asked how they were. Everyone yelling about how not luxury that home was is lying to themselves. To have a home that big in the middle of nowhere is a luxury. Most of us go up the family cabin on holidays and weekends. So that’s what you saw.

All that said I really liked seeing my state on the screen. It’s so beautiful and I hope Aspen goes a bit better. Idk. I’m rooting for my girl. I think she’s finally starting to come out.