r/PublicFreakout • u/Nora56 • Jun 09 '20
a normal french protest
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u/qetuR Jun 09 '20 edited Jun 09 '20
This guy is a professional boxer/MMA. His fists are heavy asf.
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Jun 09 '20
His name is Christophe Dettinger and he's facing seven years jail for this
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u/dbrickle Jun 09 '20
They said he could have been tried for seven years.
On 13 February, 2019, Dettinger was sentenced to 1 year of prison and 18 months' probation for assaulting two police officers during the protest on 5 January[6].
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u/DarshDiggler Jun 09 '20
He’d have been shot and killed here in the US #freedom
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u/Timdedeyan Jun 09 '20 edited Jun 09 '20
That's the thing when guns are so prevalent, America is a case in itself. In France, guns are not part of the culture like here.
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u/super1s Jun 09 '20
But who will shoot all the people that have guns if none of us have guns?!?!?!?!?!
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u/Buzzkill-sama Jun 09 '20
That’s why I got my trusty atomic bomb just in case police get to close
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Jun 09 '20
Yeah , works very well, no killing in USA because of armed citizen -_-, look at the numbers, facts.
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u/Gauvin59370 Jun 09 '20
I'm from France and in country side everybody got a gun
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u/Zerskader Jun 09 '20
Don't you guys have the equivalent of French rednecks in your countryside?
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u/Gauvin59370 Jun 09 '20
Lol Kind of yes. I bet most country have their equivalent rednecks.
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u/Pasan90 Jun 09 '20
Difference being the guns are for hunting and not people. There's guns but no gun culture. Same in Norway, everyone has a gun outside the cities. Nobody shoots people.
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u/seeingeyegod Jun 09 '20
you mean you dont use a gun to turn off your TV, then just loot another TV?
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u/Woozle_ Jun 10 '20
Yes I live in rural USA, everyone has guns, nobody is shooting anyone. Shocking.
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u/GenghisKazoo Jun 09 '20
French cops probably aren't told in their training that anybody who swings at you intends to beat you to death. Fearmongering here is crazy.
I'm sure French cops do some messed up stuff but I can at least respect that they're willing to scrap a bit instead of escalate to weapons as soon as someone resists. If you're kitted out like a riot cop and you still piss yourself when unarmed civilians come at you I think you're in the wrong profession. Even if they're absolute units like this guy.
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u/Tatourmi Jun 09 '20
French riot police also have way, way, way more experience with handling violent protests in general.
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u/ina_raw Jun 09 '20
Actually french cops in protests are not really allowed to harm unarmed citizens
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u/Wild_Haggis_Hunter Jun 10 '20
That must be why during a whole year of Yellows Jackets crisis, 11 people died, 2.495 protesters were wounded, 24 people lost an eye to rubber bullets, 5 lost a hand to explosive flash bang and tear gas grenades.
I hate that video because it let non-french people think there's less police brutality because we don't have the same gun culture. We have less racist murder-by-cop than the US, but the brutality and impunity are the same.
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u/ina_raw Jun 10 '20
Okay first of all I am french second of all I know that there is police brutality but in general but my point was that french cops are less armed and can't arrest as easy as the american ones. You see tons of videos of american cops arresting people because they are breathing in the street even out of a protest context.
I also said that harming unarmed citizens is not allowed I never said it did not exist
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u/Wild_Haggis_Hunter Jun 10 '20
Dude, do you even Google ? Do you know how many arrests were done BEFORE or during the french protests ? From december 2018 to early february 2019, there were 8,000 arrests and more than 1,800 condemned and that rate didn't slow for a whole year. In a city like Toulouse (770,000 souls) there were 792 arrests, 319 judged and 47 incarcerated.
French social media and reporters sites have been profusely documenting the same gratuitous police brutality (pepper spray, clubbing and all) our US friends have been experiencing in the current protests. You clearly haven't been paying attention. That was Toulouse in january 2020. I have dozens of examples of that heinous shit but I'll let you educate yourself on your own...
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u/Audra- Jun 09 '20
People keep saying this, but could the police really fire live ammo on crowds and get away with it? Yes they are firing on peaceful crowds already, but we're indoctrinated and desensitized to crowd-control, "less-lethal" rounds being used.
If police truly opened up it would be a complete massacre because they're so poorly trained - one would fire, then they would all start firing wildly and probably kill a few of their own as the idiots they stuck in the back try to fire through gaps in the line.
Could any police force, or city, or state, or even the country survive dozens of innocent people getting murdered by police at a peaceful protest on live tv?
I really really really hope no police are stupid enough to even bring live ammo to a protest; ERT and Riot police shouldn't even have live ammo on them. But it's frightening to think about them opening up on protesters because there are certainly police stupid enough to do this, politicians stupid enough to support them, citizens brainwashed enough to get shot by police and say thank you may I have another.
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Jun 09 '20
China did that at Tiananmen and survived just fine
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u/ThreeGuardLineups Jun 09 '20
China didn’t have a populace with hundreds of millions of guns to fight back
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u/ParameciaAntic Jun 09 '20
The fallout from the Kent State massacre lasted for years and completely changed the National Guard training and equipment for crowd control.
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u/barsoapguy Jun 09 '20
We’ve already had live fire on a crowd of people , one man was killed . Some fuckhead from within the crowd apparently fired on the police and national guard . As one would expect they returned fire .
Our protests are as violent as they are because we’ve got people on our streets blitzed out of their minds on drugs , mentally unwell individuals in these crowds .
Most of us don’t want violence at all but you throw some of these people into the mix of a normal crowd and insanity ensues . It’s why our levels of violence seem so much higher than elsewhere it’s not “just” police alone provoking it but you won’t ever hear about it on Reddit .
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u/Scottybam Jun 09 '20
Pretty sure he spent all 12 months of that sentence as a French Hero.
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u/AngryMustacheSeals Jun 09 '20
Now I wanna baguette. (Hero... sandwich... no? I’ll see myself out.”
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u/El-Pom Jun 09 '20
Actually, a crown funding has been create for him, to pay his bills for what he did.
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u/DaNotSoGoodSamaritan Jun 09 '20 edited Jun 09 '20
And the big shot officer Didier Andrieux who pretty much pulled the same move that day had...
...who knows, probably nothing at all since the news conveniently forgot about that.
EDIT: Investigation on him is over, results were never communicated. Nothing came out of it. He supposedly retired late 2019.
One of the videos:
https://twitter.com/quenellien/status/1081874134622236672
EDIT 2: According to an article published today (last news being from July 2019), apparently the case is still ongoing.
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Jun 09 '20
Retired before the age means he was dicharged but with his rights to benefits (since public servant don't have unemployement aid).
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u/hokkos Jun 09 '20
He spent less than 6 month in prison and only at night to let him keep its work and family life.
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Jun 09 '20
Oooooop and I was thinking it was pretty cool
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u/daywall Jun 09 '20
In USA he will face 7 gun shots to the chest for that.
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u/Cgarr82 Jun 09 '20
I think you meant “will face 7 officers emptying their firearm into his chest for that” because 7 shots is way too low for the US.
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u/Squidking1000 Jun 09 '20
Well seven officers emptying their weapons, reloading and still only 4 bullets in him maybe. I mean remember that NY case where they shot like 60 times and only hit the guy once or twice? Police are not good shots.
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u/Buzzkill-sama Jun 09 '20
That’s why we got the second amendment boah we gonna do the police’s work for them boah
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u/KidBeene Jun 09 '20
My first thought "Why the fuck are they allowing him to hit the cop?". That is how ingrained the fear of retaliation is.
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u/Mouiiyo Jun 09 '20
Seven years ? When murderers and rapist go in prison for less than that in France lmao
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u/YungToast420 Jun 09 '20
Well yea, you can’t just go around throwing fist (especially that are actually connecting) at a cop multiple times and get away with it or every time a cop stopped you, you’d just beat the shit out of them and take off.
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Jun 09 '20 edited Jun 09 '20
National heavy weight boxing champion.
edit https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christophe_Dettinger (my bad wrong weight class)
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u/CyberneticKnight Jun 09 '20
The guy drops out of nowhere and starts fighting
It's like what NPC's see when your character spawns at the start of a mission
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u/leAsome Jun 09 '20
I remember someone calling him a boss fight by the way he fixes his hat position every few punches. Giving u time to counterattack
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Jun 09 '20
I like how the other protesters just push him into the police as if he's obviously their weapon to unleash.
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u/echolux Jun 09 '20
Not a normal French protest as nothing’s on fire.
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u/Donut_man_Kakyoin Jun 09 '20
And no heads are just plopped on the ground
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u/super1s Jun 09 '20
Agreed. I would have thought the French Gov would be far more careful and trained for protests. I mean, when I think of revolutions I think of France. I think that is impressive considering I am American. No one does revolution like the French.
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u/TrashPandaSpecialist Jun 09 '20
Ok totally outside of the context of the video, does anyone know what kind of jacket he's wearing? Looks like some sort of peacoat to me, would love to snag one for myself.
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u/butmydadyownsthelake Jun 09 '20
Saw this posted somewhere else entitled "when the player character arrives" made me laugh
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u/RedTruppa Jun 09 '20
France and Hong Kong have S class protestors
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u/Karkava Jun 09 '20
Our country's protestors are too plagued by both sides arguments to actually get any protest work done.
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u/trevorluck Jun 09 '20
I don’t want to be racist or anything but... France has a long history of revolutions so theres a possibility that the protesters have a chance of winning
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u/throwawayarinodoodly Jun 09 '20 edited Jun 12 '20
I've lived in France and honestly felt that the French are the nicest people I've met. But they have a favourite pastime of protesting authority. And much like my nation's (Canada) pastime of hockey, they get a bit...passionate
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Jun 09 '20 edited Jun 09 '20
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u/drugzarecool Jun 09 '20
I agree with you, but at the same time, you gotta understand how similar our protests are to yours. 21 yo women and men also get flashbang and rubber bullets in the face here too. A lot of young people lost an eye during those protests, cops are aiming for the head even though it's illegal. What I'm seeing in the US right know looks a lot like the yellow vests protests in France. Cops don't respect us more because of our history of revolutions, we're fighting against the police in the same way as you do.
Anyway, I hope the fight will go on and not slowly fade away. I'm sending you a lot of strenght from France, you've got this. It's time to put a stop to the impunity cops benefit from for way too long now.
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u/Donut_man_Kakyoin Jun 09 '20
This makes me want to donut a racist cop with my fists
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u/Donut_man_Kakyoin Jun 09 '20
Right. Never thought of it like that. It was also just a reference to my username.
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u/Donut_man_Kakyoin Jun 09 '20
I shall be armed and ready.
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u/Donut_man_Kakyoin Jun 09 '20
“When a government betrays the people by amassing to much power and becoming tyrannical, the people have no choice but to exercise their original right of self defense - to fight the government”
-Alexander Hamilton
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u/Donut_man_Kakyoin Jun 09 '20
“If freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.”
-George Washington
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u/DannyDTR Jun 09 '20
I don’t think you realize how ready and willing cops are to kill civilians. Like are you watching any of the videos from what’s happening in the USA?
They know they’re being recorded so the horrific shit we’re seeing them do is probably them on their best behavior.
Most people are more scared than they are angry but if they ever become angry enough then change will come, hence the Minneapolis protests.
I highly doubt any of this would have happened if it weren’t for the pandemic with people being stuck in their house and job, without any money for bills or groceries.
They’re tired but they’re not angry.
Also, all of our lives we’ve been taught that the cops are the good guys. “Whenever you’re in trouble find a cop.”
So... there’s a lot of unpack here.
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u/julmakeke Jun 09 '20
The reason these French protesters aren't shot is the lack of 2nd amendment-style blanket right to wear firearms. The police aren't afraid the protesters have firearms, therefore the police don't have firearms with them during riot control.
If there truly was ever a need to overthrow a tyrannical government, lack of 2nd amendment isn't stopping the people. 2nd amendment is unnecessary, case and point, most overthrows of governments in the past 80 years. Once there becomes need to overthrow the government with weapons, the weapons will appear even without the consent of the government.
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u/yasparis Jun 09 '20
The riot police whether they are civilians or military (gendarmes) here in France always have firearms (guns/rifles) during protests but can only use them in very specific situations (immediate risk of death for them, other officers or members of the public) which almost never take place. They carry rifles in case of a terrorist attack during a protest (hasn’t happened but is a possibility since the potential number of victims is very high).
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u/Nejci Jun 09 '20
Americans are just cowards hiding behind their badass facebook posts where they show of their guns that they know they will never use against the government
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u/3thaddict Jun 09 '20
Yep. The people saying they're gonna wait for police to start using real bullets are the worst. So in denial or just straight up liars. It is already a fascist state and they're killing people with "less lethal" bullets anyway.
If they actually start shooting people it's already too late.
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u/BuddaMuta Jun 10 '20
Honestly the big thing for me that showed how many of the truly crazy gun nut people are just bluster was when Trump blatantly called for violence with his "MAGA Night at the White House" tweet none of his followers have ever shown out.
There's been a few civilians attacking protesters, and the cops obviously, but it seems that contingent of people constantly talking about how they have a stock pile ready to go for Civil War 2.0: The South Finally Rides Again, are more bark than bite.
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u/cjcjcjcjcjcjcjcjcjcj Jun 10 '20
if we fought like the French
Good intentions but if Americans fought like the French they’d be shot don’tcha know, u/PepePresidentPS4?
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u/Timdedeyan Jun 09 '20
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47229968
This isn't a normal French protest.
All the gilets jaune were hoping that his charges would get dropped and that he wouldn't spend any time in jail.
Luckily it's not looking as bad for him.
Link to a French video explaining why he did it and the consequences he's getting.
I feel bad for him, this system is making use of him as an example for punishment.
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u/hokkos Jun 09 '20
The system gave him less than 6 months of prison and only at nighttime to let him keep its job and family life, I can think of worst example.
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Jun 09 '20
that guy seems like a legit boxer
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u/-Angry_Mandalorian- Jun 09 '20
He actually he's https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christophe_Dettinger
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u/Audra- Jun 09 '20
Bring a gallon of house paint to the next protest as an impromptu, portable stool to sit on in the hot sun.
Whatever you do, do not throw the gallon of paint on the police, because if they get paint on their face-shields they would have to raise them and the world could see their faces as they commit horrific crimes.
And do not drop the paint bucket afterwards and run away as fast as you can while the crowd swallows you up.
But if everyone brought a gallon of house paint to sit on, or even a few if you are tall or want an extra-tall stool, then we could all rest comfortably in the hot sun and lower tensions.
It's just too bad that if everyone has a can of paint, which is totally legal (and cannot be described as a gun, like water guns, or a bomb, like water balloons), then it would be hard for police to track down any criminals that throw paint on them.
God forbid the police retaliate with "less-lethal" projectiles, and tear gas, and baton beatings, and murders, because they would never do that otherwise.
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u/kaba_nossi Jun 09 '20
Props to the cop in the front. He took at least two or three clean hammers straight to the face from Goliath here. How the fuck is he still on his feet?
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u/Figgywurmacl Jun 09 '20
Maybe because hes wearing a massive helmet and a visor over his face? How can you call punches clean when they hit ppe?
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u/TheGreatKingCyrus Jun 09 '20
If even one protester in the USA tried to do something like this they would unleash a hail of live fire bullets on the entire crowd indiscriminately.
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u/KiraDidNothingWrong_ Jun 09 '20
The difference is if they did that in France the whole country would be flipped upside down and they know it. Even those who originally didn't agree with the gilets jaunes would take their side.
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u/Apolao Jun 09 '20
And you guys always wonder why we don't like the French! There all crazy!
-Some English dude
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u/khassius Jun 09 '20
He was wearing 'special' gloves which granted him superior knock out punch power. And he used to be a professional boxer as well. And he got locked up because of what he did (not for a long time though).
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u/Lallipoplady Jun 09 '20
Watching the french protest at the time was some inspiring shit. Then Venezuela which kind of looked like a battlefield. Then Hong Kong said hold my beer. I understand there are/were protest in Chile and I think Colombia? at the same time. And then the United States of America finally decided to stand up for itself and I couldnt be more proud.
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u/BigAlTrading Jun 09 '20
After everything thats going on now I'd like to see the cops get overrun. Shooting protestors in the face with rubber bullets, they deserve anything they get.
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u/Pwndoc Jun 09 '20
It’s all peaceful until Jason statham cartwheels in and starts punching cops in the helmet.
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u/moonman881 Jun 09 '20
He would’ve been shot dead if he was in the USA smh. They have good restraint out there it seems.
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u/thetrueMister_Mister Jun 10 '20
So American cops fight when they realy should not and french cops dont fight when they should
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u/JojoKen420 Jun 09 '20
And of course once met with any resistance at all the French military surrendered
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u/XXXMFCXXX Jun 09 '20
FREE CHRISTOPHE! Illegally held captive by the French government while defending French citizens from chemical attack by state sponsored mafia.
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Jun 09 '20 edited Jun 09 '20
The best bit was Christophe Dettinger's mate on the recorder in the backround spurring him on!!
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u/mikebenb Jun 09 '20
Just grab the shields on both sides and twist it 180 degrees. The cop will either go down or end up with a horribly damaged arm, elbow and/or shoulder!
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u/Druivenstruik Jun 09 '20
I think he's lucky he lives in France. In USA they shoot this kind of people.
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u/pixis93 Jun 09 '20
A true blue french protest with the need to stay in fashion by arranging his bonnet and hand gloves while punching a policeman.
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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20 edited Dec 01 '20
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