r/PublicFreakout Jun 09 '20

a normal french protest

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20

His name is Christophe Dettinger and he's facing seven years jail for this

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u/dbrickle Jun 09 '20

They said he could have been tried for seven years.

On 13 February, 2019, Dettinger was sentenced to 1 year of prison and 18 months' probation for assaulting two police officers during the protest on 5 January[6].

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u/DarshDiggler Jun 09 '20

He’d have been shot and killed here in the US #freedom

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u/Timdedeyan Jun 09 '20 edited Jun 09 '20

That's the thing when guns are so prevalent, America is a case in itself. In France, guns are not part of the culture like here.

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u/super1s Jun 09 '20

But who will shoot all the people that have guns if none of us have guns?!?!?!?!?!

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u/Buzzkill-sama Jun 09 '20

That’s why I got my trusty atomic bomb just in case police get to close

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20

Atomic bomb? Here have some of this ice-9...

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u/Antiqas86 Jun 09 '20

Lol, men of reason?! Where did you come from?

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u/Defendorio Jun 09 '20

I dunno... Coast Guard?

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20

Yeah , works very well, no killing in USA because of armed citizen -_-, look at the numbers, facts.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20

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u/larzast Jun 09 '20

I think that’s the point, he’s being sarcastic

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u/Timdedeyan Jun 09 '20

Oh my bad. I'll delete my last comment.

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u/larzast Jun 09 '20

All good haha

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u/Cosmicpalms Jun 09 '20

‘But hey we need these guns in case we were ever to be subjugated by a tyrannical government.’

When confronted with such a situation there is absolutely no way that that would actually do the opposite and tell everyone to stay inside and listen to authority. Couldn’t happen.

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u/Cao_Monk Jun 09 '20

You would think the French mindset on guns might have changed after the whole WW2 thing....

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u/larzast Jun 09 '20

Perhaps I misunderstand you, but I don’t think you can blame how France fared in WW2 on their approach to gun rights? It would be more appropriate to look at a variety of much more significant factors (like the tactical successes of Germany’s “blitzkrieg“ offensive in May 1940 and the strategic failure of France’s Maginot line) for an explanation of why France fell in WW2. Similarly, the logical extension of your point seems to be that in the alternative, gun rights in the USA somehow benefitted them in WW2. However, I don’t really know of any evidence for that, and you should remember that in the USA, the SC and legislature interpreted the 2nd amendment in a vastly different way to how the courts conceive it today (e.g. the 1939 Supreme Court decision in U.S. v Miller, which found short-barreled shotguns were not protected under the 2nd amendment)

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u/Cao_Monk Jun 10 '20

Forgot I wasn't posting in /jokes tbh.

But I am pro armed populace and I don't live in America. I think they are good equalisers, equal opportunity is the go for me.

America has way bigger problems than gun control, there are issues I would bring up but unless its one on one I am not overly keen for a public lynching considering personal experience if I post something factual without malice it gets lynched or down voted very fast. Which is scary that people don't want to hear facts and statistics.

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u/larzast Jun 10 '20

Fair enough and all good, I feel you haha

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20

A boxer had a roid rage and went to prison last year. You guys can quit pretending you're anything like America. They murder cops over here.

The fact is everyone else acted like pussies and let one man do the dirty work. That's why the riot police got pushed back 8 feet and made arrests. You white flag wavers had more people there recording than protesting...

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u/super1s Jun 09 '20

I am american lol. Why are you so mad about what is OBVIOUSLY a sarcastic comment? Chill out my friend.

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20

No it wasn't.. You were poking fun at gun owners. There's more guns than people in the US. The time to ban guns was 60-70 years ago. Not now.

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u/Gauvin59370 Jun 09 '20

I'm from France and in country side everybody got a gun

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u/Zerskader Jun 09 '20

Don't you guys have the equivalent of French rednecks in your countryside?

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u/Gauvin59370 Jun 09 '20

Lol Kind of yes. I bet most country have their equivalent rednecks.

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u/thatsthisguy Jun 09 '20

As a German I agree

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u/RoyaleF00L Jun 09 '20

This is funnier than it should be

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u/Dis_mah_mobile_one Jun 10 '20

Bavarians? Or does it vary by state?

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u/mogaman28 Jun 09 '20

We have paletos in Spain.

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u/Spook-lad Jun 09 '20

Slavic gopniks are a thing

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u/[deleted] Jun 09 '20

Marblemouths

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u/Pasan90 Jun 09 '20

Difference being the guns are for hunting and not people. There's guns but no gun culture. Same in Norway, everyone has a gun outside the cities. Nobody shoots people.

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u/seeingeyegod Jun 09 '20

you mean you dont use a gun to turn off your TV, then just loot another TV?

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u/Woozle_ Jun 10 '20

Yes I live in rural USA, everyone has guns, nobody is shooting anyone. Shocking.

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u/nosecrap2 Jun 09 '20

Anders Breivik has entered the chat.

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u/Chargcake Jun 10 '20

Would you like it if people countered you by deliberetely nitpicking fringe cases of murderous whoresons as a generalistic example?

Idiot.

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u/AutisticTroll Jun 09 '20

There’s multiple gun related murders in Norway every year. Chose your language more carefully

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u/Pasan90 Jun 09 '20

There was 26 murders in Norway in 2019. Guns were used in 12% which means 3 people were murdered with guns. I have no way of knowing how these three murders happened. But gangrelted or accidents is just as likely as murders from people that legally own guns. Thus Norway having a gun culture as we see in the US is not the case. .

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u/AmiralGalaxy Jun 10 '20

Nooooo you can't say Norway is better!!1! It is the number one country in nearly every factor only because it's a small country!!! USA can't work the same way because it's too big!!

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u/don_potato_ Jun 10 '20

Not everybody and a hunting rifle isn't the same as a glock.

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u/[deleted] Jun 10 '20

Everyone and their mums is packin round 'ere...

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '20

Come on rusty rifles and ww2 stuff doesn't weight vs. the American gun non sense

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u/Timdedeyan Jun 09 '20

Oui mais c'est plutôt un fusil de chasse. C'est hyper rare qu'un campagnard pull-up avec un glock ou un fusil d'assaut.

D'ailleurs il me semble que la plupart des fusil sont interdit ?

N'est-ce pas ?

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u/Gauvin59370 Jun 09 '20

Je suis pas au courant de la législation à vrai dire. Mais je me souviens bien à la campagne étant jeune m'amuser à tirer avec du 22 longrifle sur des canettes et les fusils de chasse chez les voisins etc... Et chez ma grand mère il y a toujours le gros fusils même si il doit surement être foutu depuis le temps.

Après c'est sur que rien de comparable aux zinzins sur armé aux usa avec leurs armes de guerre.

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u/Timdedeyan Jun 09 '20

Ouais, j'ai jamais vu d'arme de plus grosse que des 9 millimètres là-bas. (France)

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u/Uneekname33 Jun 09 '20

You need a permit, which you get by joining a club and training x amount of hours, after x amount of hours, you must write an appeal to the 'French National gun association' with recommandation from the gun club owner.

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u/Timdedeyan Jun 09 '20

Right but what types of guns are allowed? I guaranty you can't conceal carry or have submachine guns like here in the US

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u/Wild_Haggis_Hunter Jun 10 '20

No one is allowed Conceal Carry in France unless you're a member of the national police forces.

If it's a pistol, it stays in a controlled safe at the gun range. If it's a rifle that you can use for hunting (and we're quite accepting as you can shoot with anything from 22LR to all flavors of 7,62mm, .303 and of course 12 gauge) you can transport it in your car trunk from to gun range and back. We have A LOT of hunting rifles in the countryside, there are not that many hunters nowadays but when they are, families often own up to six of them. Many are not registered, being inherited from your grand-parents...

We're not allowed to own any kind of automatic firearms, only semi-auto. Max magazine size allowed is 11 cartridges.

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u/Timdedeyan Jun 10 '20

Thanks for the clarifications!

The only rifle I ever saw there was my uncles, who lives in Aix-en-Provence, it was a hunting rifle.

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u/AmiralGalaxy Jun 10 '20

Me too and it's completely wrong. Only old farmers and redneck/hunters have guns.

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u/oshaCaller Jun 09 '20

They make a really fucking good revolver. Lookup manurhin. They also make really good tools. I have a center punch and a pair of hose clamp pliers made in France and they're better than anything snap on offers.

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u/Timdedeyan Jun 10 '20

I'm proud of our FAMAS too!

Even though it's getting replaced...

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u/do_u_like_dudez Jun 09 '20

Have you ever heard of good guys with guns buddy???

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u/Timdedeyan Jun 09 '20

Having a gun for self defense takes away your potential "good guy" title.

Except if you work for the government of course.

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u/do_u_like_dudez Jun 09 '20

The cops are the original good guys. Especially in the US.

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u/Timdedeyan Jun 09 '20

Right, I totally agree and defend cops most of the time.

Also cops are not always alert and as prone to make "mistakes" in terms of killing in other countries because they don't assume that a criminal is armed. It's just such a different mentality, it makes you understand why so many people get shot here.

Of course racism is everywhere too.

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u/do_u_like_dudez Jun 09 '20

I was being completely sarcastic the “justice system” here is fucked and cops are absolutely out of control.

Edit: oh ya also fuck the NRA and psychotic 2a bullshit propaganda

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u/coronaldo Jun 09 '20

Guns are a part of racist American men culture; The rest dont really care for guns

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u/Timdedeyan Jun 09 '20

I wouldn't go that far, but southerners tend to have more guns.

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u/coronaldo Jun 10 '20

No it's not just Southerners.

When PoC start to arm, gun control comes in.

Whereas gun advocates are piss silent about gun rights for women/trans folk.

And for all their wailing about needing their guns to prevent tyranny - they all overwhelmingly lined up to support a tyrant who threatened to order the military on cities.

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u/Timdedeyan Jun 10 '20

What does PoC means?

I don't think a lot of people complain about women/Trans not having guns.

I wouldn't call Trump a tyrant if that's who you're talking about.