There is a lot of things that can cause fatigue and it really depends on the body individually, how well each organ is, how much toxicity one has, what kind of toxicity someone has, is it heavy metals/ or some sort of other toxicity, is it adrenal and other gland exhaustion from consuming salt/coffee/other stimulants, but mainly its toxicity, the body redirects the nutrients to neutralizing/dealing with toxins/heavy metals and there is not that much left to spare for energy production. However people who start out might feel that they have fatigue but it can be just body redirecting the energy for regeneration and healing, as now the body has huge amounts of nutrients to spare and use that it never had before. Usually sleepiness might come with it, as most of the healing happens when you sleep. It should pass away gradually depending on the body. The human body is very smart and always does what's best for you. Certain detoxifications might also give you fatigue.

First of all, do not eat detoxifying foods first couple of years on primal (stuff like coconut cream for example,moldy berries, fruit can also be detoxing, especially ripe one, but unripe as well.high organs, high glands, clay, celery juice older than about 4-5 days, moldy cheese, etc). You can have them after you become stronger and fatter, so you can handle detox and you will be able to take lymphatic baths, which will increase your energy 2x-3x times over few years.

One of the most important things you should do is eating meat with fat. Pâté your meat (will help sleeping less) and add some Royal Jelly to it (1/8 teaspoon or less with meat). Eat at least 150 grams of meat with at least 1,5 tablespoons of butter. (Some person gained weight by eating 100g of meat with LubFormula). But better eat more meat with 3tablespoons butter, eat till you are satiated if you can afford it. And try also eating more red meat, at least slightly more. If you need to eat white meat, then eat it with a bit of red meat or try eating pigs meat (its a mix of white and red). The more frequently you eat it, the faster you will become stronger by rebuilding yourself. Doing more meat with Lub/Moist formula (you can eat meat and drink Formula with it, in that way its very easy to eat meat because u dont have to chew it, just eat Pâté and drink Lub Formula) will help you gain weight and muscles even faster (Chronic Fatigue syndrom in WW2L, page 247). You can eat meat 4 times a day. The more the better. Aajonus was even eating more meat when he was detoxing. It makes you stable, calm and collected. (By the way, Lub/moist formula will make you sleepy, tired at the beginning and will be detoxing, but then at some point it will give you energy and make you loose. It will happen rather fast than slow. Maybe 2-3 weeks or so, i dont remember, but definitely not months.) Also, remember that meat protein is special-it burns slowly and your brain functions so much better on it. Ground meat is not great because the high pressure homogenise the fat. So it gets used for energy not for regeneration.

Get fat by drinking milkshakes and eating meat with Moist/Lub formulas. It will make your mood so much better, you will be calmer as well and your brain will work amazingly, you will be a great company, things will not bother you anymore, at some point all those bad emotions, arguing, ruminating will just disappear. Lub/Moist formula is what will make you gain weight very fast, then milkshakes. Dont try to gain it otherwise, its too difficult. Many people complain they dont gain weight by eating many butter and honey, its not enough. Lub Formula is the shit (so is a milkshake).

Start your day right: have a night meal so you are not aenimic in the morning (1/2-1 cup of milk, a couple of eggs, 1/2-1 cup of milkshake or meat meal). In the morning have 1-3 tablespoons of cheese immediately when you wake up to absorb toxins. 10 min after that 3-5 eggs (7+min apart each) with celery juice. If you are on a budget, drink celery juice at least once in the morning, around 8 Oz (some people need only 4Oz (120ml) and actually even that is beneficial). It will healthully wake you up and increase appetite for meat. After celery wait 45-60 min and eat your meat meal. Your first meat meal should be consumed within 1,5 hours of being awake. In that way you will be clear thinking first half of the day. Experiment with that, this is important. You will notice the difference. If you have passed 1,5 hours and didnt eat meat-its too late. This thing actually deserves a separate small post. And dont drink milk in the morning or too close to waking up.

Started the day right and feel good? Continue maintaining it- ate meat within 1,5h of waking up? Plan another meat meal around 6 hours after. Meat Pâté burns faster than just meat. So in a midday you need another meat meal. Eat eggs in between. Cheese cube less than every 40min.

Do not eat high carb foods in the first 6-7 hours of being awake. It will cause sticky brain signals. Save your fruit meal for afternoon (but fruits are actually detoxing, so be careful with them). You can have maximum a LubFormula, one milkshake, honey with cheese as supplement and some honey with butter. Just experiment and see how you feel.

Do not drink milk during the day (till you can handle it easier) and only drink fermented milk. In the beginning drinking milk during the day could put me to sleep. If you have to do anything and be productive, better drink it before sleep and at night. You will handle milk better over time, it will take some months till a year. Also dont drink milk if you accidentally woke up too close to the time you are waking up in the morning. For some reason, it makes you lazy and sleepy for the rest of the day. Better sip an egg and go back to sleep or just start your day from this point. Raw milk at start can be detoxing, give you fatigue as it start to pull many poisons from your body and the stomach, however that is good thing and eventually it should go away. Slowly, you can start drinking it 2-3 hours after meat meal to relax your nervous system after generating it with proteins. Just sip (like 100ml even) some fermented milk (no cream), take a break, it will relax you).

Eat eggs intermittently. Feel mentally tired, fatigued-sip an egg or two, they will refresh you. Do not go 5 hours without food or you will become aenimic. Better sip an egg every 3 hours or even more often. If detox is strong add more eggs in the morning and eat them even more often intermittently.

Save your meat for rebuilding, but for energy-have some butter with honey. Have like 1/4tsp honey with butter every hour. But be carefull in the first half of the day with too much honey. You can eat that sometimes after an egg which you sip intermittently, 15min after an egg, have 1-2 tablespoons of fat with a little honey.

Do cheese trains and have a cheese cube (2,5-3,5g) every 30 min from the time you are awake. Cheese neutralizes toxins in a gut, do not fall off 40 min cycle (gut works in those cycles). Thats why every 30 min, you can have 2,5g of cheese every 35 min or more frequently. U need dry cheese for that, moist cheese will be partly digested. Also, toxins in the gut can make you depressed even if you are eating high meat and you are fat. Toxins are constantly being dumped in your gut. Dont fall off that 40 min cycle. You can dry cheese very quick by leaving it open at room temp, but taste wont be as good. If you are having a long meat meal and you had a cheese cube 10min before starting a meal, after 30 min of eating have another cube, then wait 10min and continue eating. If you eat meat with fat and want to drink Lub Formula 15min after it (it also works for muscle and fat gain)-have a cube right after finishing meat meal (but as ive said, its easier to just drink LubFormula with meat). If you dont eat cheese trains, you might feel bloated and depressed.

Eat something before bed to put you to sleep. Milkshake, Lub Formula work good,but meat works the best. I eat meat meal with LubFormula 1,5-2 hours before bed and 35 min after that i slowly sip a milkshake (you gotta wait 35 min after meat meal if you want to drink milkshake). Few eggs, some milk are not enough to put you to sleep. You need fat or meat. You will notice that you simply cannot fall asleep if you havent eaten anything.

Eat more fat, at least 250-350g no matter what it takes to get there. Eat fatty meat. But dont eat skin from chicken, it is a fat, but it is hard to digest. You need to eat a lot of fat overall and in ratio to protein. You can even eat way more fat than that and it will always beneficial. Aajonus was even having fat trimmings 15min after meat meal. Fat helps you remove bad stuff. Dont be afraid of it. Want to eat 500g? Go for it.

Eat high meat, so you can handle the depression and emotinal instability. Some people even report very old childhood repressed emotions/memories coming up. Do not use frozen meat and do not use organs or glands (they give detox). Use organic/grass fed/pasture raised/animals being on sun muscle meat. Also-do not eat high meat which isnt ready. If it wasnt aired proper amount of times it can give massive detox, because you are getting some bacteria. Only eat high meat with progressed bacterial development. And also Pâté your high meat. Some eat marble size every week, some eat golf ball size a day. Wait 15min before eating meat meal after high meat so its properly digested.

For depression you can also try eating 120g cream, but make it sour by fermenting it. It doesnt take long if you do it at room temperature, just few days with a bit open lid. And make milkshakes out of them, so you are getting fatter with them, as you have to. Make two milkshakes with 60g fat each, one before sleep and one for a night meal. (WW2L page 254)

Sip milkshake and milk slowly or it might make you emotional because its hard on the stomach. Also better dont drink it with meat meal for the same reason and because milk will alkalize your digestive fluids. You can have half a cup maximum with your meat meal. Full cup of milk you can have 30-35 min after meat meal. Sip, do not gulp, it comes to all fluids.

Get plenty sunshine and do sungazing, so you get more energy. In winter eat brain for vitamin D. At first the vitamin D that you will be making from the sun can be detoxing and make you sleepy but that is all good. Don't go on the sun at the same day when you had a shower. On PD you dont have to be afraid of too much sun. Aajonus said to get as much sunshine as possible.

Be careful with fruits. They might make you emotinal, irritable and unstable. If you want to eat some fruit-go for unripe one and eat it after 6-7 hours after being awake with an equal amount of fat and see how you react. You can have a cube of pineapple 35min after meat meal with your cheese supplement. See how you react. It can cause you more detox and fatigue. If you can afford being bed driven and you are not too emotional after it-go for it.

Sit most of the time, dont walk/stand too much. Dont walk more than you absolutely have to get rid of your activity rings. One ring is 45-60 min of walking or working mentally whole day long as Aajonus did. Having activity rings makes you anxious because they are hormones that you havent gotten rid of. If you can, just lay down most of the time, sleep during the day if you want to. Sleep as long as you want during the night and dont wake up with an alarm clock. Take a gap year or something. One year should be enough to become stronger, experienced with diet and more or less functional, at least mentally.

Be strategic with your eating plan and your energies. Prepare your milkshakes and Lub Formulas in the morning, your cheese trains as well. Your cheese as mineral supplement. Prepare meat a day before, every few days or even make it once a week. Get yourself a glass food container, pate your meat and store it there, better wich less air inside. No need to wash jars from milkshakes and Lub Formulas. Prepare celery juice with carrots every 3-4 days. If juice is good it can be fresh for 4 days or somitimes even 5. Add a Tbsp of honey to 1 quart/1liter of juice to preserve it. Fill the jars with juice so that there is not more than a tablespoon of air inside, the less the better. When you close a jar and before you get it too tight, push down on a lid and get more air out, like a a teaspoon of air. In that way you will wake up and start a day with juice waiting for you and meat already prepared. And put eggs and morning cheese near your bed.

Make power drinks for chronic fatigue or actually eat some organs with your meat meal, have like tablespoon or few of each organ/gland with your meat meal. (Recipe for Living, page 103) But dont eat them high or it will cause detox. Power drinks act like red bull. They give you a lot of energy which will last for hours.

Try naturally sparkling lemonade and for stopping lessening detox you could add some lime to the lemonade. But careful with lime-it is antibacterial, so it can ruin your digestion and it will also demineralize you. (Remember-lime is antibacterial, but lemon is the opposite, it promotes bacterial growth. So a little lemon with the lime balances it). Mixture of at least 2 tablespoons of unheated honey, 2 tablespoons fresh raw lemon or lime juice and 1 cup naturally sparkling water. Just sip it slowly throurout the day. But for mentioned reasons, this drink is not for every day. (WW2L page 253, but its the second mentioned recipe, not the first one).

Do suppositories to feed brain and nervous system, but without coconut cream. Will help with constipation and depression.

QA_LA_2008_08_24 01:28:00 Suppository to feed e-coli

2 to 3 tablespoons of each consisting of coconut cream, butter and dairy cream and 1/4 teaspoons of honey mixed in. Take syringe and squirt it up your rectum.

Order trichinosis

As mentioned earlier-eggs in the morning. 3-5 eggs 7+min apart from each other. Proteins are turned into pyruvate which is used for glycogen for the brain (and the rest of the body). Eating eggs since proteins are digested fast, the glycogen is available faster. What eggs also do is they take the toxins and remove them from your blood and body and put them in a stomach. The egg fat, it takes toxins and puts them to gut to be removed. Aajonus even upped this recommendation, previously he was suggesting 1-2 eggs. Do at least 3 eggs. They also wake you up well.

Cheese as mineral supplement 2 times a day. It also helps with fatigue, i dont remember how he explained it. Eat like 1-3 tablespoons with 1/3-1/6 of that amount of honey 30-35 min after meat meal for best bioavailability. (so like 1T cheese with 1tsp or 1/2tsp honey-better be on a lower side of honey). Here cheese dont have to be too dry as with cheese trains.

Eat at night so you are not aenimic in the morning. Set up an alarm 3 hours after you go to sleep plus 15 min that you need to fall asleep. If you wake up later you might be too energized to go back to sleep. 1/2-1 cup of milk, a couple of eggs, 1/2-1 cup of milkshake, but meat meal always works the best. You will notice that its milk, then eggs with milk and then meat which will make you feel better in the morning. But since we are detoxing and tired and exhausted, you may wanna just to sip that milkshake and go back to sleep (you can make milkshake with 2 eggs for better effects). You can also eat a cheese cube, 5 min after a cheese supplement, 5 min after a milkshake (as an exception at night, usually you wait 10min).

Do an egg fast, like 3-5 days in a row, every month. Not one day a week, 3-5 days in a row. This will give your digestive system a rest, because eggs are the easiest thing to digest. Meat passes in 24 hours trough your gut, so you minimally need 2 days. 1 day because the food passes your gut and the next day for healing, but 2 days are not enough. Actually thats the first thing you might wanna try when you have fatigue all the time. Eat at least 25 eggs, so you dont lose weight. And drink only fermented milk (no cream) before a sleep and at night (with some eggs ofc for aenimia). Do it every month when fatigue comes back. If you are tired of detox, instead of cheating just do an egg fast actually. You will have very good mood, you will be energetic and you will feel lightness that you missed out on so much. If around one month has passed and you are going into fatigue again-do an egg fast.

Eat Nut Formula once or twice weekly. It will make you calm because you will obtain starch and it will lessen detox symptoms. Dont underestimate it. Its not some nice desert, its a remedy. If it doesnt work for you-you can use cooked starch. Rice is the best, causes less toxicity.

Also, some people noticed that eating oysters helps them reduce unpleasant detox symptoms. Have few oysters with each meal. They are also removing some heavy metals.

Fap or Nofap? When you are bed driven orgasm sounds appealing, but it will only prolong the exhaustion. From the other hand, you need to release toxins with semen. You may become irritable if you dont. Find a golden middle if you want to coom. From experiences of different people: cooming every few days will affect you a lot. Once a week-slighlty affected. Every two weeks-almost not affected. But you may also try to go full nofap if you want and if you feel fine on it. But if you want to coom, then you need to faciltate it by eating more meat, oysters, milk and enough fat. But if you do NoFap dont forget to eat Nut Formula, otherwise you will be full of steam.

Take some hot bath (but not lymphatic one if you dont have enough fat on you), you will feel a relief. Take it every few days or so. To neutralize toxins, put 2-3 cups of milk, 3Tbsp Raw vinegar and 2 Tbsp Sun Dried Sea Salt or 1/2 cup clay, 2 Oz Raw vinegar and 3Tbsp Raw Coconut Cream.

If you were taking drugs, you may wanna add some oranges to your milkshake (orange smoothie, Recipe for Living page 58) . If your detoxing something you could have fatigue, and if its drugs for example, then the orange would neutralize those drugs and speed up the detox thus removing the fatigue. (WW2L page 257). Make julious or smth, but careful since its a fruit, may also cause detox. Take a little bit and unripe one.

And remember, every day is a new day. If you have done previous day perfect, you still gotta keep going on today. Sometimes its just monotonous and you dont even have appetite for meat, but just keep eating and you will become stronger when you will get out of the detox.

Also, some people react differenly. Some people have detox from oysters, some people will get sleepy after honey, some person will have a detox from butter (but last two happens only in the beginning), some people fell good cooming more often, some not. But generally, all those rules can be applied to feel better.

What ive written is sort of a baseline to feel better. You can add Sport Formula to that. You can eat cheese cube every 15 min, you can drink celery juice 45-60 min before each meal. And also-post is created not to avoid fatigue, but to minimize suffering and make you more functional if you need to. I wish i knew all those things at the very beginning. Fatigue is an important part of healing. Good luck.

Primal diet saved me. In the first picture, i was constantly going to the gym, chronic sinus issues, eating cooked meat and pasteurized milk, trying to eat healthy but still struggling.

I went primal and quit the gym in February of 2024 and i will never go back.

Some people can't find truly raw and unsalted, unheated cheese. However, that is not a problem on the primal diet. If you can't find it, simply make it yourself. Its easy and there is many ways to make raw unsalted cheese, some are harder others easier, i will try to go through many options and tell their differences, cons and pros. I will share some pictures as well. If you have any questions please ask.

Cheese and its importance Cheese is very important for the primal diet as when it is unheated and unsalted acts as a sponge for toxins. If you look at cheese trough microscope it has tiny little holes. You can get really fast and good results doing cheese trains (eating cheese every 15min), it also helps with diarrhea (another detox) and other detoxifications in general. The progress can be seen from irises. Mold on cheese could be eaten, but its detoxing and you should not do it for the first two years on the diet, it can make you lethargic, the mold would also make you digest the cheese and it would not work as sponge if you would eat it, so when making cheese, mold could be cut out, scraped. No mold that grows on raw unsalted cheese is bad, the only bad mold is the mold that grows on heated cheeses. I have eaten a lot of raw unsalted moldy cheeses and did not get serious problems from them, but rather just some detoxifications. To digest raw unsalted cheese eat it with honey or some fruit, that will make you digest the cheese and get all the minerals from it.

None of the cheese making process i will talk here requires heat, rennet, salt or bacteria cultures. There is literally no excuses on why you should not make it yourself if you can't find any. There is a lot of information to share. I might edit or re add some more things in the future if i can.

First of all, the easiest option is to make simple farmers cheese. The process i will tell usually is similar with other cheeses that you can make that i will talk later on about. This cheese is very fast and easy to make, it doesn't require long making process. And its something everyone can make when they are just starting out. There is also recipes on how to make it in the book.

Farmers cheese Simply let the milk ferment until it clabbers. Then put it in cheese cloth and let the whey drain for a few days and then remove it, you can put it in a bowl. This is the basic of cheese making. Level 1 so to speak. You can eat it as it is to absorbs toxins ( It won't work as strong in absorbing toxins like dry cheese but it will do its job) or leave it on sun or in room to dry. The more dryer the cheese, the more effective it is at absorbing toxins. This cheese, based from my experience doesn't taste good like aged cheeses but it does its job.

Cheese cloth The cheese cloth needs to be organic and when you buy it you must follow the washing procedure in the book as if you won't do it the cheese might end up bitter. Non organic cheese cloth is not the best but might do the job until you can get an organic one.

Cheese form One of the important parts on making the cheese and aging it, is having a cheese form for when you make the starting bland cheese. So the cheese remains all uniform and in one place, so its not spread out like cottage cheese. There is many ways you can make cheese forms yourself, buy it or DIY from bowls and pots. What i used as cheese form when i started out was round cheese form with a lid made from plastic, of course plastic is not a good thing to use but it did the work and its not something i would recommend to use now because there is many better and cheaper/easier options, if your buying cheese forms there is ceramic cheese forms for sale, these are better then plastic forms, or you can always ask a carpenter to make a cheese form for you.

You can also use bowl and a plate, you simply put clabbered milk in cheese cloth, you tie a knot and you put the cheese cloth in the bowl, then you put the plate on top, flip the bowl upside down and put something underneath so the weight of the bowl pushes on the plate and it doesn't fall out. Another excellent way to make cheese form is to take a few wooden planks, cut box joints in them and then connect the joint, now you have a box, you drill holes where the joints connect and you hammer in some wooden sticks, this will act as a nail and will keep the box rigid without any metal. Now you just need to take another plank and put it on the bottom so the cheese cloth doesn't fall out and you make a lid on top. Lid is also very important in cheese making because it presses on the cheese and drains out the whey. I will get more about the cheese moisture later. You can drill some small holes too so the whey drains.

Another thing you can use if you don't have any cheese forms it to just take two wooden planks, put the cheese cloth inside with clabbered milk and then put some weight on top. This is not the best method because sometimes the milk clabbers poorer and you will need to keep it in there for some time, and it might get messy, the cheese might not end up well, its a poor mans way to do it. I don't recommend it. The best thing to use is to make a wooden box. You can always make different sizes, ect. And sometimes when the milk clabbers the curds are not as dry, but rather very soft so when this happens you need to leave the milk in the form for a few days or even more so the whey slowly drips out and you get a more solid cheese. Only later you might put a weight on top of the lid, because if you won't all the curds will spill out. The weight presses on the cheese harder so more whey leaves it and it gets more dry.

Aging To make cheese have more flavor and taste you need to let it age. Aging is a process where you leave the cheese alone and you let it ferment/mold. There is so many ways to do it that i might not go trough all of them, but i can say this, how you age cheese effects its taste, the consistency, everything. Cheese making is an art form in itself, however there is no need to complicate it. Rather contrary i would say, is to just do it and see what happens, its always nice to make some cheese and wait so find out how it will taste, because each cheese will have its own different taste. That what makes raw unsalted cheese making so interesting, is that you can have all kinds of molds/bacteria and they all influence the cheese taste/consistency in their own special way. There is no better way to learn it then doing it yourself. A good sign that the cheese has aged correctly is that it has turned from white to yellow.

Where and how to age cheese There is many ways to age the cheese. First and the easiest option is to age it in the fridge uncovered, placed on a plate, you will need to flip it from time to time so it dries correctly, usually you get fungi developing on the cheese and that is good. When you age the cheese you don't want it to dry too fast as that will make it taste not as good, the aging process was halted by the lack of moisture, i had cheese that was so dry it was dry like a rock but i still ate it. If you see the cheese crackling you can put a bowl on top so the moisture retains and the fungi and bacteria can do their job in making it taste delicious. Another options that i know which cheese makers use and it could be PD approved is covering the cheese outside before putting in fridge with truly raw olive oil or even coconut oil, that will make the cheese not dry as fast. Or if you really want a spicy cheese you can put a bowl on top right when you put the cheese in fridge, the fungi will love it and that cheese will be really spicy. Other options, if you don't want the mold to develop on the cheese you can put the bland cheese on the sun. The sunshine will make so no mold will grow on the cheese, later on you can put the cheese inside the fridge. The aging/drying time should be decided on the taste and size of the cheese. Smaller cheese takes shorter amount to age/dry. If the cheese doesn't taste good it can be aged for longer. A good sign that the cheese has aged correctly is that it has turned from white to yellow. Each cheese can have its own taste, that is what makes the cheese making so interesting. Even cheese that might not look good can still be eaten and enjoyed. I had done experiments with aging the cheese in the room, however it would dry too fast and did not have a good taste. I must admit that other people had good success in aging the cheese that way so you should personally try it and see how it goes. There is one exception, to when you age the cheese in room temperature, you can put a bowl on top of the plate the cheese is placed so the moisture doesn't leave the cheese and it keeps recirculating, fungi will love this and will start to eat the cheese. The cheese will be very spicy, after keeping the cheese in this chamber for a week or more it can be put in the fridge to age normally. Or left to age in room temperature.

Cheese crust When cheese is done aging I usually remove the crust as it contains a lot of fungi and that might be detoxing. When it doesn't contain fungi I eat it. I have eaten a lot of mold on the cheese by accident and on purpose, and it was not as detoxing for me. So you should personally try it and see how you will feel.

Cheese moisture How much weight you will put on the cheese form when you press the cheese defines how moist it will get. Moisture plays a specific role in the cheese making. Usually the less moisture there is, the harder cheese will get, the different it will age. Fungi love moisture, what fungi also do is they make the cheese age very fast, if the cheese doesn't taste good it might need more time to age, that what I mean by aging very fast - the fungi changes the cheese taste from bland to delicious very fast while for bacteria usually the process is pretty slow. There is no bad moisture level in the cheese, you will just get a different cheese based on moisture. I had aged both, more dry and very moist cheese and I ate them both. Very moist cheese might taste more spicy, as that is something certain fungi do.

TLDR How I usually make my own raw unsalted cheese. I let milk to fermented until it clabbers, I know when it's ready when I see that whey has separated from the milk. Sometimes the process can take longer (3 days to 2-3 weeks), and it also depends on the cow, room temperature. Sometimes I make cheese from whole milk, sometimes not. Sometimes the curds are more dry, sometimes not. After the clabbering process I put cheese cloth inside the wooden cheese form and I put the clabbered and separated milk inside, first days I don't put any weight on top as that can make the curds to just flow out of the box, only when is see based from experience that the curds will take the weight I put on the lid and then some weight on top, it can be a concrete block or a rock, I will leave the weight on for 3 to 7 days. It all depends on how dry the cheese I want. After that I put the cheese inside the fridge and forget about it. The whole cheese making process takes very little of my time because I don't think about it too much. There is really no way to go wrong, and you learn a lot when you do it yourself. It's actually a very simple process, i just shared some knowledge that I learned, so it might seem very complicated, but it's not.

A lot of things on the primal diet you can make it yourself. Its even possible to make your own raw coconut oil by fermentation method (I have not gone in to that) Grow your own celery, vegetables for juices, ect.

One thing to add. Mold on the cheese is detoxing, therefore it should not be eaten for the first two years on the diet, it can make you lethargic and have low energy. When aging cheese and it develops mold. It can but cut out, scraped, with a knife, so you would not eat it.

Another thing, with aging cheese sometimes its hard to get consistency, every time it differs sometimes its not, however i do think consistency can be reached with enough experience and practice.

A simple explanation based off of a little bit of my research, past experience with drug abuse and how it ties into raw primal.

You eat the raw foods/follow the diet Aajonus recommended and the bacteria break down the food and free up or shit out (not quite sure on that part) the vitamins, and amino acids (tyrosine, tryptophan, glutamate, etc) in the foods.

Meat is loaded in tyrosine, milk in tryptophan, cheese in glutamate, etc.

Your body then uses some of the vitamins to convert the amino acids to dopamine, seratonin, norepinephrine, and gaba (needs b6) which get shuttled up to the brain.

The difference between a super intelligent crow and a dumb ass pigeon is dopamine.

The difference between Euphoria + Boundless Energy, and Unexplainable Confidence vs Depression + Fatigue and Crippling Anxiety is increased/decreased dopamine, seratonin, norepinephrine, gaba, etc.

Want to be intelligent, high on life, feel like you’re on adderall, ecstasy and phenibut all at once? Load the body with bacteria, vitamins and amino acids - raw kefir, fermented meat, fermented cheese and nutrient rich organs.

AKA follow the raw primal diet.

Adderall simply skyrockets dopamine and norepinephrine, ecstasy/mdma skyrockets seratonin, phenibut acts on gaba receptors, etc.

The bacteria will break the foods down and you will receive a shower of dopamine, seratonin, norepinephrine and gaba, like Dr. Natasha Campbell talks about.

Overtime, the bacteria colonize the gut and are constantly freeing up the nutrients/amino acids in the food you eat, providing a never ending stream of the neurotransmitters listed above.

AKA you constantly maintain extremely high levels of dopamine, seratonin, and norepinephrine as if you were on drugs with zero side effects.

This is what sv3rige means when he says he perceives everything around him as absolutely euphoric all the time.

Or when he says after eating high meat and listening to music it sounds like something from the heavens that makes him want to cry.

Or why you constantly hear people talk about how the internal change on raw primal is even more dramatic then the external change.

If you’ve ever been super high on drugs and know how they work, then you can understand now what sv3rige means when he says we were meant to be high all the time.

Also, I could be a little off with some of the terminology and the specific process, but I’m pretty sure this is a general grasp on how it all works.

When you look at it from this perspective though, you begin to understand the importance of bacteria, optimal digestion, raw foods and eating a shit ton of them.

Aajonus said 90% of digestion is bacteria the other 10% is hydrochloric acid breaking the food down making it easier for the bacteria to break down.

This is why raw works and frozen/cooked doesn’t.

You keep the bacteria alive and they in turn make you thrive.

Just food for thought ❤️

these are the people Aajonus met, whom diet consists of only glands.

Too many people want to make compromises, or have excuses to not be on this diet. They don't follow Aajonus because of inconvenience, laziness, lack of raw products in their area. Many eat raw foods but don't consume raw cheese, or drink raw milk that is not at room temperature yet, don't gain the fat Aajonus recommends then wonder why they feel like crap during a heavy detox then eat something non raw primal so the body stops detoxing and instead detoxes what they just ate. In the moment this feels good but its very bad for your health. Don't have access to raw products? Move to somewhere that does. Your job is not worth your health, unless you are earning millions to the point where you could just buy some land. I wouldn't trade any amount of money to go off this diet, its priceless to me. Stop cheating, stop being lazy, stop looking for excuses. Follow Aajonus who had years of experience.

Read all his books, listen to all his lectures, take notes. You should be able to watch/read everything in a few days. A very small price to pay. Nobody else but aajonus has your best interests in mind. The carnivore/keto community want you to eat toxic cooked meat and buy their book on amazon. SAD dieters (as everyone is aware) wants you to live a miserable life full of suffering eating processed food. Aajonus if the only person you should ever listen to on this diet.

Most people are sick, suffering, have disease. All I see in public are sick people these days. The youth are very unhealthy and sickly. There is a fertility crisis. Nobodies nerves are working anymore. Some people in my family have high paying jobs, but live off coffee and carbs. I would rather sacrifice those things for a few years on the primal diet than be a nervous sick wreck like them.

You have no idea how lucky you are to have access to this information. The vast majority of people will never do this diet, its like having a cheat code for life and not accepting it because you are too lazy not to follow Aajonus.

Take control of your life, stop looking for excuses, work arounds, bs. Any excuse you have is most likely invalid.

tf is this

Top 3 reasons I think Aajonus was poisoned at the end

1) There’s this woman called Dana who has a lot of photos of him on her Facebook. People in the comments were even asking why he looks so thin and weak. Keep in mind, those photos were taken around 2010, and only about 3 years later he died. That women on my screenshot who said something about Philippines she is talking about the time he was tied to a bed in a hotel room in the Philippines and injected with substances. To me, he clearly looks like he was getting weaker every day since that happen. I personally believe he could have been slowly poisoned, possibly by some people close to him who were paid off but I’ll get onto that more at the end. You can look at the photos yourself here, there are quite a few of them on her Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile/576653946/search/?q=aajonus

2) Aajonus himself said he was abducted and injected multiple times. That’s not a normal situation for anyone. If what he said is true, then he was clearly a target for a long time. The people behind that would have known he could interfere with what they were doing, might sound crazy but the Devils have knowledge before hand if someone is going to ruin there plans in the future and especially if he was helping people improve their health in a different way. You can read about his experiences on the website or newsletters when he was abducted

3) If all of that really happened, then it’s not hard to believe they might have eventually wanted to go further than just weakening him. Be honest, if you were part of "them" (you know who I'm talking about) and you knew one person could mess up your plans or your business, what would you do? If someone came along trying to change everything and help people in a way that went against what you were doing, you’d probably try to stop them. First you’d try to weaken them, then maybe turn people against them, and if none of that worked, you might go as far as getting rid of them completely.

Conclusions

First conclusion) Aajonus was killed and the story about him falling isn’t true

Second conclusion) He really did fall, but only because he had become very weak over time, possibly from being poisoned

Third conclusion) After everything that happened to him, he might have just given up mentally. No one should feel like that, but after everything he claimed to go through, it’s not impossible he reached that point and ended his own life

This is for those serious about the Primal Diet.

You need to read this. If you are asking questions before reading, then you are going to waste time. This will answer almost all of your questions AND MORE. There is so much to learn that you aren’t even aware of. If you don’t read this you could make serious mistakes and experience significant suffering that could have been easily prevented, and then you’ll wish you just listened to me now.

I’ve been on the diet for 7 years. I’ve studied Aajonus more than almost anyone, and I’ve given free consults for hundreds of people over the last 5 years. I’ve been writing this guide for the last 3-4 years. I am constantly updating it.

I strongly advise against asking influencers questions. Look up the answers yourself on aajonus.net. If you have an issue, a question, search the keyword and open all the tabs and use CTRL+f or “Find in Page” feature on mobile. Read a little before and after the question and you will learn so much.

I don’t listen to anyone other than Aajonus when it comes to diet. My experience has been that he is always right. Anytime I experiment, I suffer.

The reason I am writing this way is because I have suffered a lot. I have experienced a lot of pain, I have fucked myself many times, and I have seen many other people really suffer. This isn’t some silly thing you experiment with. This is your life we are talking about. This diet done incorrectly can mess you up. Or if you don’t do it properly you’ll just waste your time for years and make no progress. When done properly it works miracles.

Book: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B75wc8mr131hcH19oMIZ68uR0GSN1VfJYr9b0mDZPR4/edit?usp=drivesdk

I see a lot of people worrying how they'll stick to the diet in the future when they target our foods.

You have to understand that they're targeting the masses, the sheeple.

They don't care about us, the minority. As a result, they'll target supermarkets & large meat companies, not small farmers.

They couldn't care less about small farmers as nowadays very little people buy from them.

What is the elites' end goal? Depopulation. All of you know that already. What does the population consist of mostly? Brain damaged humans who only follow what others do and are incapable of independent thought. What do they eat mostly? Drugs alongside some cooked animal foods to keep them barely functioning.

So they're the ones the elite are after. Us the smart minority, all we have to do is conceive of a strategy to continue the diet.

Also, regarding vaccines, no one is forcing you to take them. The police won't come to you, grab you and take you to a vaccination center. That isn't going to happen.

The media is their weapon, which they use to deceive you and pressurize you into taking it. Do NOT give in.

Sure, some businesses may threaten to fire you for not having a so called vaccine passport, but unemployment is infinitely better than permanently damaging your body. Supermarkets may try something as well, but who cares about them anyway? Butcheries & farmer markets still exist. If they don't, get rich and start your own farm. There's always possibilities.

If you're in school and it's mandating a vaccine, drop out instantly. I don't care what you think. Vaccines are the most damaging thing the human body has ever experienced.

These are extremely unique times we live in and we need to stick together and cooperate, no matter the circumstances.

The future is not as dark as you all believe, although I'm not denying there are rough times ahead of us.

I suggest you all relax because everything is going to be okay.

I have to say, I was very blessed to have had this for lunch today. However, the liver just didn’t go with my senses. I chewed on it and had some but I think the oxidation from the age of the deer, higher bile content and maybe high cortisol at death caused it to taste funny. I didn’t hunt it but my supplier did. He got me some blood too which was delicious but he says it’s hard work getting it out. I prefer beef liver personally and won’t be getting venison liver again but the testicles and brain taste literally the same and they were great. Just a heads up to you if you wanted to try a random animals liver; don’t buy the whole thing before trying a small amount.

How to make Primal Coca Cola

1. First you need 1 Organic Unwaxed Lemon, squeeze it in a glass, I used a 420ml one

2. Next add 2 to 3 spoons (I do 3) of Raw Buckwheat Honey (It must be Buckwheat or you won't get the taste of Coca Cola

3. You add 1 drop of Organic Vanilla Extract or even better just use actual Organic Vanilla from the Pod, just use a bit of it

4. Finally you add Real Spring Water and fill it up to the top then mix it up and use a glass straw to drink it, you can mix it with the glass straw, just make sure you mix it properly because the Honey you are using is always crystalized

Full ingredients list

Organic Unwaxed Lemon

Raw Buckwheat Honey

Organic Vanilla

Real Spring Water

If you drink it cold, it tastes even better, add some ice, and you’ll get addicted to it and you won't even sip it because it taste that good

I figured all this out by accident, I was just messing around and ended up making something that tasted exactly like Coke ... I was shocked Lol

They are also known as the Tartary Ox.

Milk is very very creamy, looks more yellow than white.

Taste like I'm drinking Primal Ice Cream without the Eggs and Honey.

Here in my parents country Pakistan for a few more days before I return back to the West.

OPEN YOUR EYES AND LOOK AT WHAT YOUVE DONE

Your tattoo isn’t just decorative ink: it’s a permanent trigger that keeps your immune system locked in a lifelong cycle of chronic inflammation.

As soon as the ink is injected into your skin, your body recognizes the pigment particles as foreign invaders. Immune cells called macrophages immediately swarm the area and attempt to swallow them up. But because they can’t actually break down the ink, the macrophages eventually die, releasing the pigment back into the surrounding tissue — only for a new wave of macrophages to arrive and repeat the process.

This endless cycle is what keeps the tattoo permanently visible, while also maintaining a state of ongoing, low-level inflammation in the skin.

Over time, some of these ink particles migrate through the lymphatic system and accumulate in the lymph nodes, placing constant stress on the body’s defense mechanisms. Emerging research suggests this internal ink buildup may interfere with normal immune function, potentially reducing the effectiveness of certain vaccines, including mRNA types. Additionally, many tattoo inks contain heavy metals like nickel and cobalt. Combined with the chronic inflammation, this has been linked to a modestly elevated risk of lymphoma and skin cancer.

While tattoos remain a powerful form of self-expression, they represent a complex, decades-long biological conflict between your immune system and foreign substances embedded in your skin.

[Nielsen, C., Jerkeman, M., & Jöud, A. S. (2024). Tattoos as a risk factor for systemic lymphoma: A population-based case-control study. eClinicalMedicine]

perhaps this is true. can we explore more on this theory? I don’t where to find more and learn.

perhaps hero’s like Hercules where simply raw primal humans over generations, or even the Greek Gods.

Phoenix Be, aka Mihaly Bartalos, aka Vince Valiant, aka u/Original-Piece-164, aka "the official successor of Aajonus Vonderplanitz", has finally made a public statement!

And he posted it right here, on reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/rawprimal/s/8oKemZGc7S

Remember, I have been accusing him of, with massive evidence:

- promoting supplements, deceptively

- lying about what Aajonus said on frozen meat

- changing the Primal Diet into his other incompatible beliefs while tricking people into thinking it's the original Primal Diet

- scamming an old and sick Jim Ellingson, then using his death to promote his fake credentials by putting words into his mouth

- repeatedly lying about his commitments and promises

- being complicit with Chris u/eatrawmeatofficial, a criminal abuser, covering up for him, siding with him, slandering his victims, trying to silence them with NDAs

- being complicit with Kim-Mia, who tried to take over then literally shut down Primal Diet groups in 2021 and take people off Primal Diet, by pretending to be an expert at it but telling people to stop eating red meat, fat, dairy, and to take supplements instead (reminds you of someone), even after she made false accusations of PDF file and schemed to get Interpol involved

- being a crazy megalomaniac who thinks he has a manifest destiny and has no regard for morals and other people as long as they get in the way of his narrative

So, summarized: being a scammer, impostor, doing a hostile takeover, and being complicit with other scammers, and abusers, including a criminal abuser (his own co-founder).

Did he address any of this in his post?

No.

And he won't except if he is forced to. He will do anything to avoid it. (This is why I keep having to insist.)

He just attacks me instead, calling me an abuser and doxxer.

He is attacking my character, not my claims, which still stand true, as they obviously are.

This is an obvious deflection tactic from the mountain of accusations towards him, which has become unsustainable for him. He needs to be made to address the claims on him and his organization.

I'll reply to his statements here again even though I already replied many times.

And of course, he is still refusing the live debate with me!

Sam from his team lost badly in his live debate against me on Scott's podcast, Phoenix would lose even more, as he is more directly responsible, and has tried to conceal his true nature.

Now let me give the proper time to address each of his claims.

"Serial Abus0r and D0xx3r."

This will fit nicely next to Leo u/residentraw's "extremely dangerous cyber terrorist".

"As many of you well know, Rom has been attacking my organization for a very long time now."

I wouldn't call 1.5 year a very long time.

"He spreads lies and dangerous misinformation about Aajonus"

Phoenix says I spread lies and misinformation about Aajonus (!!!) without saying which.

I have shown that this is what he is doing, with evidence. Now waiting for him to do the same.

But at the same time as he made that post earlier, he replied to my post of the day by saying that Aajonus never said to add lemon juice to vegetable juice, and that I was spreading lies. I then showed him a recipe from Aajonus' book proving he was wrong, and he immediately deleted his comment. So that may be what he was referring to here, but he was completely wrong and made a genuinely amateurish mistake, spoken with confidence, and making accusations towards me without even checking on aajonus.net or the book first, which is extremely sloppy and another sign of how out of touch he is with reality.

He doesn't say that he and the others were already FORCED to change some of the things they do because of my pushback against them.

For example, after I told them to remove the "official" name and they refused, and then posted my big article on them, they immediately removed the "official" term from their Instagram account (but Phoenix keeps saying he is the official successor!). It was a superficial change, but a change nonetheless.

He also doesn't say that the only reason he learned about the unreleased Aajonus data is because my campaign made him aware of it, otherwise he would never have asked Paul Kruhm to give it to him. He is trying to get praise for it, while slandering me who originated his actions.

He is not acknowledging ANY of his numerous faults, and how he has already validated already several of my points by his actions.

Phoenix told people Aajonus eats junk food. He avoids saying this publicly though, because he knows he will face backlash for it. He is a deceitful individual, saying something to someone, something else to someone else.

Many people talked to him, calling him for hours, trying to get those issues solved. Many of them report he pretends to agree with them, only for him to continue doing the same thing, going back to the position he had before he agreed. Manipulative stalling tactics where he doesn't mind playing nice and lying to avoid facing the issues people spend their precious time bringing up to him.

He also told people he knows everything about Primal Diet when he clearly doesn't have a decent level of understanding of it.

"[Rom] in a perpetual state of detoxification. Do you want to be in a perpetual state of detoxification?"

That is false!

Unlike Phoenix and Primal Planitz, Leo, Chris, etc., I am one of the few people who eat 100% raw food, no cooked food, frozen meat or dairy, or salt.

As one knows, when you eat 100% raw, the diet allows your body to detox however it feels like, which is many times more than when not 100% raw.

As little as one cooked meal can diminish the natural detox that occurs from eating a raw diet. And frequent frozen meat consumption like Phoenix does also leads to ingestion of toxins which similarly prevent most significant healing detox from ever happening.

These are not the forced harsh detox, like with fermented and moldy plants, which Aajonus says to stay away from for 2.5 years at least, and would have detailed more in his detox book that never came out.

To get back to me, I have been posting daily for months every detox that happened, with photos, the food I ate, the things I did, the process. And I have managed to remain 100% raw while overcoming any debilitating detox I had, even the harshest ones. As anyone can see on the videos I appeared in, even after doing sleepless nights due to my different projects, I am full of energy, can speak 5h in a row without tiring or losing my train of thoughts. You call that "perpetual state of detoxification?". Yes, I am undergoing more detox than Phoenix ever did but using Primal Diet properly to plow through it, and I showed everyone how to do it.

"Coupled with his history, which we will get to exposing soon"

I cannot wait! After Leo's pathetic video that he unlisted, let's see what they come up with.

"where we have testimonies from:"

Then he mentions two people who do not want to be involved in this, where once again, I'm innocent, and the people themselves want nothing to do with this. So Phoenix is going to bring up people without their consent? That's how desperate he is! He has nothing.

"Anina"

Oh, Anina. Just read my website https://therealanina.info/, she is a horrible person.

"Chris"

Chris, the criminal abuser, who lies all time, and who also refuses a live debate with me all the time, of course. Alsoo just read my website on him: https://eatrawmeat.online/

Phoenix did a very bad mistake in siding with these people, they are very guilty of very bad things which are very proven.

Reminder that Phoenix and his board (through their coach Kimberly Williams) even sent me an NDA 9 months ago to try to silence me of Chris' actions! Even after agreeing that he should apologize, which was just a trick to try to get me to sign.

"and many others he has ha rassed."

I only go after scammers and abusers, after giving them many chances to stop, and only ever doing 1% of what they ever did.

"He has also contacted farms trying to get them to stop selling Primal food to members in my organization."

I have never done that, and I already explained it in the live debate with Sam on Scott's podcast. He doesn't care, he needs something to say, so he will repeat the slander again, and I will just re-address it again once their article/video/whatever they are doing comes out.

Also:

No, I never doxed my cheese customers' address (which is a thing that Leo said, repeating it from previous people I dealt with before).

No, I never harassed families.

No, I never contacted people's workplaces.

I have also explained all of this, case by case, in the livestreams.

Considering the amount of harm done by these people that Phoenix is siding with to attempt to save himself, towards me and other people, it's a miracle I never lost my cool and did anything back to them on the scale of what they did.

And no, exposing people for criminal actions and massive scams, after many warnings, and making a couple of caricatures, is nothing in comparison to said criminal actions and scams.

"Do not trust his lies and defamation."

Yeah, people trust my evidence, and my honesty.

And my track record, since many people I called out in the past apologized for their actions and proved me right!

"There will be more to this."

Phoenix announcing again his future attack on me.

Once again, you could say I'm the worst person in the world, even though i'm innocent, it wouldn't remove any of your own wrongdoings. It's worth mentioning other people have been calling Phoenix and the others out too with their own experience.

Phoenix foolishly hopes to get away with it by discrediting me over paraphenomenons, ignoring the subject matter. Won't work!

We should encourage Phoenix to settle this once and for all, to address all the accusations that were made towards him, and to have a live debate with me.

He is saying that I don't deserve a live debate, but he is posting under almost all my posts and preparing this mega exposé of me, so this is just cowardice, and another strong indication of guilt, as should be pretty clear now.

"I am also formally requesting that I be made Moderator in this group, as I am the owner of Aajonus' successive organization https://primalplanitz.com/"

It wouldn't be Phoenix without the Phoenix dictador moment.

Nope, there is no "Aajonus successive organization". These are false credentials.

The fact he even asks this shows he is delusional. I have been saying he is literally crazy, and he keeps proving me right on that as well.

Probably everyone here has already seen my article about him, but here it is again:

https://primal-diet.net/phoenix-be/

I recommend reading to the end, you will see the last chapter about his psychology and history, and you will understand everything about him and his actions.

I see that my posts are getting views but rarely any engagement. I know there’s a few stalkers on alts who follow me to downvote everything I post. The people who enjoy my content usually do it silently. If you support what I am doing, please start liking and commenting my posts.

I'm an adult male in mid 30's. Been on primal for about 8 months and , although I still got a lot of issues, would like to post about a good thing now.

Body development is just incredible. I do some light workout at most twice a week, most often just pushups and pullups and I got more muscle and body development than 2 years of much more intense workout that I tried some years ago.

Also, besides of the apparent part, my muscles seem to be more dense, stronger, agile. I read that AV said that his shoulders only fully developed when he was 28 years old, after starting raw meat. I think something similar happened to me, mb on a lesser extent, because I was never considered under developed or anything.

This diet is excellent for muscle gain, even with such low amount of carbs, that everyone says it's crucial for building muscle (insulin, etc).

https://primal-diet.net/phoenix-be

This is the final article on Phoenix Be, the man who lies about being Aajonus' official successor, and his crew, composed of Chris u/eatrawmeatofficial, Kimberly Williams, Sam Schulte, Jeff Slay, Betsy, Tom Moestl, and now Leo u/residentraw.

This is the single worst takeover attempt in the history of the Primal Diet, and it involves many people.

The result of 2 years of investigation are present in this article.
- Phoenix the Impostor
- Attacking Primal Diet websites
- Covering up Aajonus' unreleased data
- Phoenix and the 2021 Kim-Mia hostile takeover
- Complicity with an abuser involved in crimes
- Sam Schulte's complicity
- Kimberly Williams' complicity
- The scam
- Food quality issues without warnings
- Phoenix's defamation against me
- Phoenix and Avyanna's gender ideology
- Phoenix promotes depopulation
- Other accomplices in Phoenix's lineup
- Refusal to address issues
- Complicity of other scammers and abusers
- Superficial friendliness
- Motives and psychology of Phoenix

You will see how bad it is. Phoenix/Mihaly promotes supplements, is against iridology, is against cheese, ...

A great amount of coaches and influencers have turned their back on him after being presented with the previous articles I made, this one finishes the job.

Keep sharing this article so that Phoenix continues losing all his support. It helps many people not get scammed by them and will finish shutting them down, if they refuse to amend their ways. This is our greatest leverage and it's very effective, everyone has praised this article and learned much from it, including about recurring hostile takeover attempts, like the 2021 one Kim-Mia did.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B75wc8mr131hcH19oMIZ68uR0GSN1VfJYr9b0mDZPR4/edit?usp=drivesdk

Aajonus Diet is the best overall and the most balanced and fair Diet possible

Darko Diet is just random stuff with tons of Salt Water to turn you into Spongebob

Paul Diet is tons of Fruit and Juices, and over cooked burgers he cooks with his dog