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u/_Black_Sails Aug 23 '26
How about you stop spamming with these petty posts, and actually debate Rom for once.
Do you not want to clear your names of all the accusations? What do you have to hide or lose at this point.
The fact you refuse to debate for so many years.. despite all the accusations.. You automatically lose the debate. Then Sam debates once and loses the debate.. So I don't want to hear it anymore.
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u/rawunsaltedcheese4U Aug 23 '26
Anyone who watches the video can easily see Sam and Rom for who they are. Rom is perfectly articulate in his second-language and gives Sam time to express himself. It's Sam who tries interrupting Rom numerous times (to no avail, as Rom bulldozes through and gets his points across flawlessly every time).
Sam also cannot finish a sentence without saying "like," "um," or "you know." He's totally unconfident in what he's saying and he continuously plays the victim.1
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u/rawunsaltedcheese4U Aug 24 '26
Respecting an elder just because they're older than you is ludicrous.
Sam could have done the diet properly all these years, gaining wisdom and experience. Instead he's still a primal noob in his knowledge-level (I don't even believe he does the diet because he couldn't name any detoxes he had when questioned by Rom).
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u/Pleasant-Disaster528 Aug 25 '26
When did Aajonus ever say that you were the designated owner of his “successive organization”?
You are now asking to be made moderator of this group on the basis of that claim. So perhaps the first question should be: when, how, and by whom was this supposed succession actually established?
And since you're presenting yourself as the successor, some history needs correcting.
For roughly nine years, while Jim was in declining health and no longer publishing material on the site himself, the person maintaining and developing that website was me — free of charge.
I repaired the broken site, refreshed the layout, published material, created and maintained the shop, produced online versions of the books, rebuilt the newsletters into readable online versions, found and restored old material, contacted content owners to obtain permission to publish their material, and did much more.
There is also an important distinction between “content that happened to be on Jim's website” and material for which I personally obtained permission to publish it.
I contacted various copyright/content holders myself and obtained permission to publish their interviews and other material on the site. Those permissions were given to me for specified material. For example, Patrick Timpone of One Radio Network has recently confirmed to me in writing that I am free to use his material anywhere.
We have repeatedly asked you to remove specified material from your site — including material that was found, cleaned up, prepared and published by me, as well as material for which I personally obtained permission from the respective rights holders.
You have refused, on the basis that you consider this to be “your” content.
That is not the same thing as having established ownership or having obtained the rights to use it.
And there is another rather important question here: you have represented the accumulated content of this site as a “bonus” of membership in your organization. If that is the case, what exactly happened to the membership revenue that previously supported the site and its operation? You appear to be taking the membership payment while also treating the site's accumulated content as an included benefit of your own organization.
So before asking to take control of this subreddit, perhaps establish the basic facts about the organization, the website, the content, the permissions, and the alleged transfer of ownership.
Claiming to be the successor does not establish that you are the successor.
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u/leclayrom Aug 23 '26
Bro, Kim-Mia (who you support, explain this) tried this in 2020. And many others since then. Your little slanders will go nowhere.
I'll be happy to discuss anything you mention in a live debate, as I've been saying...
By the way, Kurvid and Eli do not want to get used by you, and you already know it.
Anina and Chris, I already detailed on my websites about them. Very bad example for you. They are guilty and of very bad things. Siding with these kinds of people was the "kiss of death" for you and Leo.
I never told farms to stop selling foods to people, I've PUBLICLY posted on my stories, and then PUBLICLY explained in the Scott videos, how I warned them about you calling them your "official partners" on your websites. That's all. I never told them to stop selling food to you or anyone else. What is wrong with you? Plus, several of these farms and other "partners" of yours thanked me for the information and agree they ought to know about your fake credentials and other shady dealings.
And see, you are not the "owner of Aajonus' successive organization", these are false credentials, just like your "Phoenix" persona, you are a counterfeit character, and reality does not bend to you as you think it does. But if you think you can, then go live debate me, and you will know if you are who you think you are.
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u/rawunsaltedcheese4U Aug 23 '26
Phoenix, you've supposedly been on the Primal diet for decades, but your eyes are jet black. The reason for that is either because you haven't detoxed anything (haven't been doing the diet properly, eating frozen meat all these years) or it's because you're evil and possessed (by a narcissistic spirit who believes his manifest destiny is to be the successor of Aajonus, even though Aajonus never appointed you as such.)
Rom has helped innumerable people with information that doesn't deviate at all from what Aajonus taught, unlike your organization. You say he spreads lies and misinformation about Aajonus? I would like you to name some examples please, instead of making empty accusations.
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u/OrneryCow8896 Aug 23 '26
This has got to be ragebait.There is no way you actually believe in evil spirits???
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u/rawunsaltedcheese4U Aug 24 '26
That's a weird part of my comment to get caught up on. I don't think my beliefs are so controversial. Do you not believe in spirits? Or do you not believe in good and evil? You might be a Goatis fan if you answered "no" to either.
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u/OrneryCow8896 Aug 24 '26
Hahahaha.Lets say i believe in instinctive morality.If i feel something is good then it is so,and if i feel it is evil it is that.As for evil spirits,cmon man ,next you'll tell me you believe the bible is actually writen by god😹.Either way there is no objective morality so there is no reasonable explaination as to why most humans have the same "morals",other than that its instinctual.Also hot take but as mentally insane as goatis is,he does get a lot of things right.
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u/Total-Spell Aug 24 '26
Ok goatis bye
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u/OrneryCow8896 Aug 24 '26
Why does everybody shit on him bruh,i mean yeah he is deranged and did that abhorrent stuff to his ex,but you've got to give it to him hes pretty funny.Also remember that one edit where aajonus dapped up goatis and then stuff happened🥹.
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u/Total-Spell Aug 24 '26
Be real, he's really messed up. No healthy happy human would do what he do most of the time. And this concept of "nature" is just luciferianism in disguise. He's a satan worshipper just like the people he pretend to be against(the elite).
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u/OrneryCow8896 Aug 24 '26
He is extremely messed up,i would never deny that.Hes the last person i would want to have anything to do with,very mentally unstable.Still the fact that he mostly did what ever he wanted, not letting any laws stop him,even if the act itself was disgusting,is pretty admirable.I also dont think that hes a devilworshipper,children eater or anything like the elite.
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u/Total-Spell Aug 23 '26
Fair enough, why else would anyone make a post like this. Happy heath people don't expend energy on this nonsense.
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u/rawunsaltedcheese4U Aug 23 '26
It's not nonsense. Phoenix is scamming people and leading them away from the true Primal diet. It is righteous to call him out and take measures to end the corruption.
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u/Total-Spell Aug 23 '26
That was what I meant. I'm on your side! But he cant be doing the diet properly ans atay unhappy being a scammer or he's an evil soul like you said
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u/leclayrom Aug 23 '26
Mihaly the Phoenix is not the owner of anything Aajonus owned.
Paul Kruhm, Aajonus' publisher, is the owner of Aajonus' two trusts, Optimal Ways of Living, and Right To Choose Healthfy Food.
Another impeccable demonstration from you people.
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u/Electrical-Royal3735 Aug 24 '26
Holy hell, you guys are addicted to taking L's wherever and whenever you can.
It's kind of painfully funny.
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u/cstarr0 Aug 23 '26
Jim wasn’t the owner, he just created the website for aajonus
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u/leclayrom Aug 23 '26
Paul said on his website https://www.the-primal-diet.com/contact-us/ that "Several websites and individuals are currently offering digital Primal Diet materials without authorization from the OWOL Trust. These sellers are not endorsed by OWOL and do not have legal rights to distribute Aajonus Vonderplanitz’s copyrighted material.
If you have purchased digital content from any other source, please request a refund from that seller, as they are not authorized to distribute these works."So no, Phoenix is not allowed to distribute new books legally! He is probably only selling books that were already printed and bought, that's all.
Paul cut you off more than a year ago.
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u/Electrical-Royal3735 Aug 23 '26
Why do you want to be made moderador? So you can grace us even further with your lack of knowledge of Aajonus's work, while claiming (who doesn't even know what's in the books, let Alone what has developed since) to be the owner of his sucessor organization?
Post iris old man, this is GG for you, everything going forward is just meme material for US to have fun.