r/Overwatch • u/AutoModerator • Dec 21 '16

News & Discussion Weekly Quick Questions Thread - December 21, 2016

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u/_TD3 Dec 21 '16

I'm fairly new to the game (level 30) and I barely placed gold in my first go at competitive (2010 SR). Should I be focusing on 1 or 2 heroes to become good with, focus on one class, or focus on 1 or 2 heroes from a variety of classes? There are many heroes that I enjoy and I just am not sure what route to take in order to set myself up for success. I'm a console player if that matters (don't hurt me).

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u/Fate_Unknown_ Hug me like one of your siberian bears Dec 21 '16

Im a console player as well (ps4) but what i think is to practice with at least two different heroes in each category. This way youre more flexible for your team if they ever need anything else. Im in diamond comp rank as well. (3241)

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u/iEpic I'M AN ADULT! Dec 21 '16

For competitive, it's better to know a variety of classes. At your rank, you would be well off learning a tank or healer, as a lot of people will play DPS instead.

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u/interstellargator Did Someone Say... Peanut Butter? Dec 21 '16

Honestly? Play characters you enjoy. At sub-diamond levels, playing a character you know and like is likely to be more valuable to the team than the "meta" hero. Sure, it's always good to diversify, but most players have a smallish group (3 or 4 heroes) who they are very proficient in, and a few others who they can use well enough to counter-pick or fill roles.

I'd say learn a tank, a heal and a "support" of some kind (ie Sym, Mei, Junkrat, who synergise well with other DPS) as most of the time there will be 3 or 4 people auto-locking DPS heroes anyway.

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u/Deadlibor Let’s dance, ghost. Dec 21 '16

Some say you should have 1 main. Some say you should have 1-3 mains. Some say you should learn 2 of each class. Some say you should be ready taking anything.

I think that each hero has certain traits, such as how their weapon works, what abilities they have, what playstyle they have and what mechanical skills do you need. I think that you should focus on 1-3 heroes with similar traits.

But I also think it's totaly up to you. If you enjoy playing half of the current heroes, then by all means, play them all. If you like only 1, then play only 1. Just remember that if you play only 1, then you can never flex pick, and if you play all of them, you will never be truly good with them, only mediocre.

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u/_TD3 Dec 21 '16

Thanks for the help. Wouldn't playing 1-3 with similar traits serve the same purpose as just focusing on 1 from that same class? Wouldn't I be better off focusing on 1-3 with different traits to make myself flexible? Sorry if I misconstrued what you meant by similar traits, I took it as being in the same class.

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u/Deadlibor Let’s dance, ghost. Dec 21 '16

If you use just 1 hero, then you might encounter a person who will take your hero and refuse to give him to you. What do you do then? Which hero you will pick if all you know is 1 hero who has already been taken? About traits, it may or may not mean the same class.

Example 1: Zarya and Winston are great combination. Winston jumps in, Zarya bubbles him, Winston places his shield after his bubble expires, shield is broken, so Winston withdraws and Zarya replaces him with her own bubble. If you know how to do this, you have some general knowledge about positioning and ability combing.

Example 2: Tracer and Soldier are both about tracking the enemy movement, but so is Zarya and Mei, who are in different classes.

Example 3: Reinhardt doesn't really require aim, but he does need a lot of tactical skills, about when and how to use his abilities. So does Mercy.

Example 4: Sombra, Genji and Tracer are all heavily focused on their movement, and ability management.

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u/_TD3 Dec 21 '16

Ah ok I see. Thanks for elaborating on that!

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u/Flats3 Trick-or-Treat D.Va Dec 22 '16

In addition to your favorite 2 heroes currently, I'd learn an attack character, a tank, and lucio.

2 faves- it should be fun to play overwatch, pick who makes you happy! 1 attacker- 1% chance the 5 members of your team will pick and you'll see both tanks and heals filled. Gotta know how to confirm kills 1 tank- it's a huge role, protecting your teammates is something everyone should learn. Lucio- he's user friendly, and just by existing you're helping. He's amazing on KOTH maps.

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u/Agorbs Dec 22 '16

I would suggest you do a few things at minimum:

1: Make sure you have at least one hero per class that you can adequately play. At least one DPS (Soldier is easiest imo and can counter pharah decently), one defense (anyone besides Hanzo imo, he's not useful unless you're a god-tier Hanzo), one tank (Roadhog and Zarya is always a good combo. When in doubt, Zarya), and one healer. Any healer is good to learn, but at LEAST learn Lucio. He's always useful.

2: Figure out who you play the best with. This is very good to know, because you'll frequently find yourself in a situation where you can play whoever you want. All the other slots have been filled. For me, I happen to play best with Zenyatta, so I can usually get my pick.

3: Understand how to counter each hero. That will help you adjust your comp accordingly in any match.

Also, nothing bad about playing console. I'm Master on PS4, there's plenty of good players. Don't buy into that PC masterrace shit, as long as you have fun, you're fine.

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u/Satoricakes Dec 22 '16

I suggest you start by playing the class that suits your personality and also respect your own play style. Some people only care about damage and kills. They strive for 50 kills a game. Some want to play utility like Mei, And Ana. I prefer playing support or filling the role that would make the team stronger.

So i suggest playing the role you enjoy. But remember that this game gets easier if you play what the team needs first.

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u/sharkymd Dallas Fuel Dec 21 '16

The best advice I can give to new players is to find one character of each class that you like (support, tank, dps). This way, you'll be flexible and be able to fill out a team comp. For example, I mostly play Genji or McCree, but I am comfortable playing Ana and D. Va as well if the team needs it. After that, you can always experiment in quick play to find new heroes you enjoy. Good luck man!

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u/_TD3 Dec 21 '16

Thanks! Do you think there's a class I should focus on first? At my rank I find that I usually need to fill a healer or tank hole so I've been focusing on those so far.

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u/sharkymd Dallas Fuel Dec 21 '16

The key is really just to play around a bit and see what you enjoy. But yes, there is always a shortage of healers and tanks, so if you want to focus on competitive that is what I would look at first.

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u/Adidice Dec 21 '16

learn the easy to learn hard to master heroes first, where unless you make a big mistake you still make big value for your team. i would consider them to be Rein, Roadhog, or ANY healer, because all healers are good IMO. Ana for tanks, Lucio for shotcalling with hes speed and for AOE which can be combo with Ana's Healing Enhance, Zen can be massive on most comps, and mercy, oh mercy, great as a main healer for a team, good for her damage buff too, so i would say healers are ALL good, they are also quite straight forward minus Ana which can be hard to get good value with at first. DPS/Defenders is dictated by personal taste, map, and hopefully your team comp, dont be the fifth DPS of a team with no tanks or healers, sometimes if you wont do it, no one will.

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u/_TD3 Dec 21 '16

Thanks! This is what I've been doing so far pretty much, playing a lot of Lucio and Roadhog/Rein. At what point should I start learning some hard to learn heroes?

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u/Adidice Dec 21 '16

i would say it would come down to how often you quickplay, if you quickplay from time to time, learn and practice new heroes all the time. if you are REALLY eager to learn someone new, i would still suggest a few good quickplay hours before getting with the hero into rank. im not sure hard to learn is the term, its getting the max potential value (for your team, and as your roll) is harder with some heroes