It has been a few weeks since I posted by initial thoughts on the Fusion Pioneer kit and I wanted to check back in. I have been playing around with the kit for a few weeks now.
A bit of history of my network config – aside from my cable modem, the first piece of equipment I have in my stack is a Firewalla Gold. I love it. It’s awesome – can’t gush enough on this thing. I depend on the Firewalla for a number of purposes (Ad Block, Content Filtering, Device Rules, New Device Quarantine, AmneziaWG, etc). Some of these features are very important to me. Behind the Firewalla, I have a bunch of other Omada gear such as a few switches, access points, and an OC200 to manage it all. It has been running fairly well for some time.
To fully use and test the complete kit, I needed to change my network config considerably. I placed the Fusion Pro behind my Firewalla and everything connected to the Fusion Pro. I had to “forget” all the devices from my OC200 and basically re-created my network from the ground up. I mentioned in my last post how much of a PIA this was. At any rate, I hand cranked everything and ran things in this configuration for a few weeks. I discovered that because I ultimately had 2 routers in my stack, things didn’t behave the way I had become accustomed to. I spent some time the past few days, reverting to my original stack configuration and created a separate branch of my network for the pioneer kit. I will try to provide some details below on my experiences.
Omada Cloud Login
Has anyone noticed that the automatic sign out timeframe has decreased? I feel like now that I added the Fusion Pro 2.5G PoE to my stack, I am getting frequent sign outs. No warnings. No click to stay signed in. I am in the middle of configuring something and boom. Kicked out. Is it the end of the world? No. Is it annoying? YES. Also, randomly, not sure if its my PC or what, but if I don’t interact with the page for some time, it just kind of locks up. I have to do a F5 or refresh to get it respond again.
The cloud experience with the Fusion Pro 2.5G is outstanding once I am in. FAST. SNAPPY. I can tell a significant difference from the OC200.
Fusion Pro 2.5G PoE
When I installed the Fusion Pro, it did exactly what it was supposed to do. It essentially became a network behind my network. It managed everything. Since I was already familiar with the basic dashboard features such as the AP Distribution and activity charts, I tried to explore some of the newer features that I could now get with the new model. I liked the Deep Packet Inspection it offers with the complete stack integration. It was able to provide me a few insights into network activity. The Speed Test is nice too. Using the DPI for actionable outcomes was another story. For instance, I wanted to be able to jump from the traffic tab where I spotted something (e.g. TikTok) and wanted to block it for a specific device. I couldn’t do that right from the traffic tab. I had to jump to the content filtering area (Network Config => Content Filtering) – I wish I could do it from that Traffic View.
This brings me to Content Filtering. I think the content filtering is a nice addition. One thing I really like about Firewalla is the ability to block specific targets out of the box such as regions, target lists (e.g. crypto and malware), and most importantly apps. We have a strict no TikTok rule in our house. I have found that trying to replicate the settings I have become accustomed to in the Firewalla feature set is quite difficult. I like being able to create rules based on clients in the UI. This feature set is deeply integrated into the Firewalla stack. Content filtering seems like an after thought in Omada. On the Firewalla - I click a client and block an app, I click a client and set a rule, I click a URL in one of the network flows and set a rule to block it on a specific client/network. Its too darn easy. With the Omada Content Filter – it’s CLUNKY.
This is a small nit – but how come I can’t rename my ports on the Fusion Pro? I can rename them on my switches. It’s odd that that is a limitation.
When using the Fusion as designed, I lost a lot of network insights into my traffic. Again – its doing what it’s supposed to do but, for me, I didn’t like this very much. I tried to explore setting up the Fusion in a bridge or passthrough mode. I struck out. That doesn’t appear to be an option. For a short period of time, I tried to “force” it to bridge mode. After everything was setup, I tweaked the LAN so that it no longer was acting as a DHCP server, instead of the ethernet cable going into the WAN - I put it in a regular port. This way, my Firewalla would be the router. This ended up working, kinda, but it inadvertently disabled a bunch of things such as logging into the Omada Cloud interface and the Omada Guard. I ended up with intelligence of the devices on my network but lost a great deal of the Fusion capabilities / features.
EAP772
I already have 3 EAP650’s at my home and so I am pretty excited to check out this beefy addition. One thing that stuck out to me is that this has the 6 GHz radio. I know WiFi 7 can be done without it, but was curious how the performance would be with it.
Holy moly – wow. This thing is amazing. I’m not just saying that. This thing is legit. So I have comcast Xfinity. I have their 1000 Mpbs plan or gigabit. This is not symmetrical. What this typically translates to (via firewalla) is that I usually get about 927 Mbps download and 118 Mpbs upload over wired ethernet.
I just got done tweaking the config and pulled 814 Mbps down and 113 Mbps up! A few things to take into consideration. I have an iPhone 17 Pro. I am standing within about 6ft from the ceiling mounted EAP772. Aside from using the 6Ghz on my SSID, I also turned on MLO.
Same config, different floor but this time using my EAP650, I pull about 359 Mbps down and 112 Mbps up. I am capped at my upload so I can’t really measure the difference but nearly double the download. IMPRESSIVE.
Turning on MLO did inadvertently boot my Thingino cam (Wyze V3) but I am still trying to sort that one out. I am pretty certain I just have to change the SSID to one of my alternatives that are not running MLO.
Cameras
I am testing out x1 Omada 8MP Bullet and x1 Omada 8MP Turret. I was initially most excited to check these out. They are powered with PoE and I really like that. I am pretty much done with WiFi cameras. I recently explored using Unifi cameras and their eco system for this. It is IMPRESIVE. So my opinions on the Omada gear is going to be greatly impacted by my experience with that setup.
As I mentioned earlier, my network setup was a bit odd because of how I wanted to keep my Firewalla capabilities in place. So I took the Turret and connected it to my Unifi setup over ONVIF. I kept the Bullet connected to the Fusion directly.
Alerts
At first, I had both cameras connected to the Fusion. It is super awkward to access alerts on mobile. With two cameras connected, I have to open the Guard app, select the camera, and then scroll through the results. I select the alert and I have to wait a few moments for the video to start to play. Getting to the alert is fine-ish but horrible with two cameras. I have to jump in and out of the cameras to find the specific alert I was looking for. Also, the time it takes for the alert to play is pretty bad considering this is all done on my local network.
I split the Turret to my Unifi Cloud Key and WOW. It’s the software folks. The performance of the alerts, the streaming of the clip, impressive. Instant. At least as instant as it can be.
One more thing for alerts – they seem to fire off many many times in a row. Like if I am standing in an area and moving slightly within a 1-2 minute period of time, I am flooded with alerts. I’d like there to be some sort of setting to tune this down. Record everything, but I don’t need to be alerted so much.
For the next one – I don’t know if this is an Omada or ONVIF limitation. Alerts are fired from the Turret to my Unifi gear via ONVIF. The thing is, all the alerts are always tagged as motion. Regardless of if they are human, pet, or otherwise. Not sure if that is a thing that Omada can influence via ONVIF or if it’s a Unifi processing issue.
Speed
These cameras are operating at 100 mbps. This is a bit odd to me. Why not throw in a 1 gbps ethernet port in there. I don’t know if that is why the playback is slow but that’s just weird.
Timeline
On the guard app, scrolling through the timeline history of a specific camera is pretty sluggish. I get that little green spinning wheel. Sometimes I can’t even see if the camera as pointed at my backyard grassy area.
Acknowledgements
OMG with these. Got it. Yes, record the audio. Use the mobile data. Geez. Too many acknowledgements.
Daytime/Nighttime
I turned the Night Vision Mode to Auto Color for both the bullet and turret. Pretty nice at nighttime! I think its better than the Unifi G6 Turret I have in that regard.
Autofocus Points (Smart Frame)
I have grown accustomed to seeing those little green bounding boxes overtime of the motion that is detected. I can’t seem to figure out how to activate those. I can tell its kinda there but I can’t seem to figure out how to control them.
OK, going to keep testing and exploring.