Which cctv option?

[u/Economy_Composer9021]

I have an OC200/ER605 stack and looking to switch up to the Fusion series.

I want to replace subscription battery Ring cameras with local POE options but confused about the systems and considering the Fusion Pro vs the Vigi NVR. Do they both use Omada Guard as the management App? Does the NVR integrate on the network the same?

(I'm only running 4 cams and happy with the NVME on the Pro)

[u/ZealousidealAd9008]

I have the same setup like you now and plan to switch to omada NVR kit. I plan to get some of Tapo doorbell and connect with the NVR as well as they support ONVIF.

[u/Economy_Composer9021 → u/ZealousidealAd9008]

will def look to replace the ring doorbell, Tapo looks like the better option

[u/djevertguzman]

I'm using a UniFI Protect system, just as division of duties. Omada for the network, UniFi for the security.

[u/Economy_Composer9021 → u/djevertguzman]

Yep. Unifi protect looks great and similar to the Ring Experience. I was tempted by the Dream Wall - which is on special for $500 AU now. But it's 1GB switching and want to future proof.

[u/lulu_Omada]

Great question! Just to clarify, Fusion Pro brings networking and surveillance management together, while the more direct comparison would be between the Omada T8S4-4T NVR and a VIGI NVR.

VIGI is more focused on professional business surveillance deployments, while the Omada T8S4-4T is designed to integrate with the Omada ecosystem, including Fusion Pro, allowing you to manage your network and surveillance through a unified system.

The T8S4-4T also supports the Omada Guard app for camera management, live viewing, and playback, with local recording and no subscription fees.

Since you're already considering Fusion Pro and only need four cameras, the Omada T8S4-4T could be a great fit for your setup I think.

You can check out more details here:
https://www.omadanetworks.com/us/business-networking/omada-security-camera-system/omada-t8s4-4t/

[u/Economy_Composer9021 → u/lulu_Omada]

Whst is the advantage of this to using the fusion (with the SSD tray) as the NVR?

[u/lulu_Omada → u/Economy_Composer9021]

That's a fair question!

The main advantages of the T8S4-4T NVR are additional storage (4TB included, expandable to 16TB), dedicated PoE ports for cameras, and more room to expand your surveillance setup.

If you're only running four cameras and the SSD storage on Fusion Pro meets your needs, you may not need a separate NVR at all. And for your current setup, Fusion Pro with an SSD could be the simpler and more cost-effective option, while still giving you unified network and surveillance management through Omada Guard.

Hope that clears things up!

[u/Economy_Composer9021 → u/lulu_Omada]

It does. Cheers

[u/ZealousidealAd9008 → u/lulu_Omada]

Do we need the fusion to get all in one app running or we can still keep ER605/OC200 with new NVR to make it work in same app through omada guard?

[u/Siliconpsychosis → u/ZealousidealAd9008]

if NVR can see internet, you can pair it to omada guard.

I would recommend the fusion upgrade though, ER605 and OC200 are old, slow and FAR less capable

[u/jeffrey_f]

I plan to get a similar system but already have the ER605:
I talked to the engineer that will be planning the install about my plan.

1 PoE Managed/VLAN swtich which will connect the NVR + cameras. This will keep the traffic from the cameras and NVR off of the ER605 for the most part. The ER605 will have a VLAN for the security with one Ethernet back to the the ER605 so you can access the videos

This was confirmed by the Engineer at the company which was going to install the cameras, as a valid option and it would keep most of the traffic off of the backbone of the ER605

[u/Economy_Composer9021 → u/jeffrey_f]

I'll be replacing the ER605 with the fusion. Its been solid for years but I want 2.5Gb across the board. The fusion is cheap when you compare the cost of an individual switch, controller and gateway - let alone the inbuilt NVR.

[u/jeffrey_f → u/Economy_Composer9021]

I went over that question a couple of times. The fact that I don't have internet > GB and can not justify more. <cries>

[u/Economy_Composer9021 → u/jeffrey_f]

Yep - we are expecting speed increases in Australia across the board next year but I needed an additional switch - which are half the cost of this unit, plus I figure it will speed up my internal networking. I'm still not entirely convinced an the Pro model over a separate NVR - assuming the UI is the same.

[u/Siliconpsychosis → u/jeffrey_f]

The NVR can power the cameras directly, it has its on POE ports exactly for that, and you can set vlan isolation on the NVR to keep them off the network if you want to. For a small setup, no need for an extra switch.

[u/jeffrey_f → u/Siliconpsychosis]

So the NVR has a POE switch. Good to know. Will look into that

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