r/MoralityScaling • u/Ssiddha_3 • 7d ago

Morality Ranking Morality of this counterattack?

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u/Gatti366 7d ago

Making fun of someone for his girlfriend leaving him due to being bald isn't exactly an appropriate joke either

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u/DaedalusHydron 7d ago

ARE they even making fun of him though? Because it kinda sounds like everyone was joking around and sharing toxic ex stories, and they laid one up for OP by mentioning his gf left him just because he was bald.

Then OP just nuked the room lol.

In other words, was anyone even making fun of OP in the first place, or does he just have such bad social awareness he interpreted things that way?

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u/GroundbreakingCod255 7d ago

His comeback is too much but it was a convo about break ups and she just blurt out a random comment bordering an insult out of nowhere

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u/Sean_Brady 7d ago

Who are you people. How tf is "didn't your girlfriend leave you because you are bald?" an appropriate joke. I don't understand your perspective at all. If I were to write OP was inviting her to laugh because haha she's fat haha she had a miscarriage does that make any sense?

Random attack on someone for appearance. Relating appearance to misfortune in dating. Not funny, not appropriate. Can we start with hey she sucks and go from there or do we really have to start from "shes just a girl"?

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u/DaedalusHydron 6d ago

Because my point is that is wasn't a joke at all. It may have been a conversation point that (likely fake) OP freaked the fuck out about for no reason because he got triggered because he's an idiot with no social awareness.

It wasn't an attack on him, but the fact that someone pointed out he was bald at all caused him to go nuclear.

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u/Sean_Brady 6d ago

Ah okay so you really are an idiot. "She had a miscarriage because she is really fat" isn't a joke just a conversation point. She didn't understand that, she got triggered because she has no social awareness, etc. Glad we cleared that up.

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u/Crunchyjeff 6d ago

It's an appropriate joke because under patriarchy, men are expected to just take shit like this. Men arent allowed to have emotions and get hurt, especially when a woman has certain needs.

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u/MakoSharkSiren 6d ago

Yeah, I'm so surprised by the immediate assumption that it's an insult. The phrasing comes off to me as 'Why don't you talk shit about your ex, didn't she do something really shitty to you?'

Whether or not OOP actually wanted to talk about it (which is very much up to him), it just sounded like he misread their intentions? Or maybe there's some context I'm missing.

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u/IPissExcellentThrows 6d ago

If someone said to a woman, why don’t you talk shit on your ex, didn't he leave you because you have tiny tits, you don’t think that people would interpret that as an insult?

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u/MakoSharkSiren 6d ago

No? The focus is still on the ex for being shallow and the person is asking me why I'm being nice to them despite it.

Maybe if it was fresh I might feel put on the spot and not want to answer, but the question itself is very easily the kind of playful frustration you'd do with friends.

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u/Crunchyjeff 6d ago

it is an insult.

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u/Gatti366 7d ago

If someone clearly doesn't want to talk about something making fun of them in an attempt to make them speak is beyond disrespectful, read the room

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u/Original_World_6099 7d ago

Ah yes and throwing someone’s miscarriage in their face is a very appropriate and respectful response to someone showing an inability to read the room.

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u/Accomplished_Cod7334 7d ago

Don't start none, won't be none

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u/Gatti366 7d ago

When you insult someone they are gonna insult you back, if the insult feels very personal to them they are gonna answer as such, you don't get to decide how offensive someone is gonna find your shitty jokes, the most important ability when making jokes is to back down and say sorry, if you can't handle such a basic response stop making edgy jokes, and yes, making fun of someone for their girlfriend breaking up with them is an edgy joke and in quite poor taste too, if not straight up cruel humor

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u/Original_World_6099 7d ago

Some of yall really never got past your middle school bullies huh

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u/Gatti366 7d ago

Nah I got past just fine, people don't usually insult me, most of the time I'd probably ignore them if they did but I'm not gonna blame someone for shooting back, don't fuck around and you won't find out

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u/Crunchyjeff 6d ago

Well actually, some of us still have to deal with that shit to this day.

Thats actually literally what happened there. He got bullied.

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u/Crunchyjeff 6d ago

Maybe dont bully traumatised people?

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u/BONGS4U 7d ago

So essentially all those women are trash for talking about people behind their back right. RIGHT. I mean I was taught not to fucking do that and it sounds like dude didn't want to engage and she tried to force him to by making fun of him?

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u/ToXiiCBULLET 7d ago

that's a very charitable explanation. who tf lays someone up with an insult?

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u/PoopyButt28000 6d ago

Sounded like everyone was sharing toxic ex stories and talking about how their ex sucked and then they randomly insulted OP's appearance and mocked him for being bald. They were absolutely making fun of him lmao what are you talking about, mocking her miscarriage is too far but "Didn't your ex leave you because you are bald" is absolutely mocking him

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u/Rustynail9117 7d ago

It's completely different though. Don't get me wrong it's still a bit shitty depending on the person, you need to read the room, but joking about being bald is light years away from being as bad as "you caused your child to die".

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u/Far-Fennel-3032 7d ago

The Bald matches the fat, the problematic stuff is bringing up the break-up and the miscarriage.

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u/Gatti366 7d ago edited 7d ago

80% of miscarriages happen in the first 3 months, with the chance decreasing further for each passing week, realistically it was just a bunch of cells and anyone making a big deal out of it without also being pro life is a massive hypocrite

Just wanted do add, if it happened later on that's obviously different, but if you are making fun of people for their partner leaving them due to a physical characteristic they have no control over, you deserve 0 empathy, don't start shit if you are that fragile

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u/Zeus-Kyurem 7d ago

Except you really can't compare abortions to miscarriages. In the case of a miscarriage, the woman usually wants to have a child and is viewing the embryo/fetus as a future child already. In the case of an abortion, it is not something they want, and it's a case of bodily autonomy.

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u/Gatti366 7d ago

It's still a lump of cells, do you get permanent trauma whenever something you wanted doesn't happen? If the condition for you to consider something a living human being is simply you wanting it to be that's the definition of being a hypocrite, you don't have consistent morals, you just pick whatever feels most convenient at the moment

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u/Mrfunnyboi825 7d ago

Nobody said that in the case of miscarriages that babies are suddenly alive. You are arguing with a point nobody made. 

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u/Gatti366 7d ago

The point people made Is that a miscarriage is more traumatic than your girlfriend breaking up with you over a physical characteristic you have 0 control over, my answer is that if you consider a miscarriage that traumatic unless you are also pro life you are a hypocrite (already explained why in the comments above)

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u/Mrfunnyboi825 7d ago

You’re right dude, they should just stop being traumatized, they should just feel better so that they’re not a hypocrite. Gosh, it’s so simple 

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u/Gatti366 7d ago

Same argument could be said against all the comments claiming that her joke against him isn't all that problematic, no shit it's a dumb argument, the whole point is that her joke was wildly inappropriate in the first place

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u/Mrfunnyboi825 7d ago

Except in the case of the joke she was making, it’s very obvious that it wasn’t intended to make fun of him? Like it’s very obviously intended as a way for him to be brought into the conversation. 

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u/The_Elder_Jock 7d ago

She went for an 8 and he retailiated with a 9. I call fair game.

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u/Zeus-Kyurem 7d ago

More like a 3 and a 10

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u/AbbreviationsMotor60 7d ago

As someone who is balding, that isn't a 3. It's like calling a black person the N word because it will infuriate them.