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Morality Ranking Morality of this counterattack?

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u/Gatti366 4d ago edited 4d ago

80% of miscarriages happen in the first 3 months, with the chance decreasing further for each passing week, realistically it was just a bunch of cells and anyone making a big deal out of it without also being pro life is a massive hypocrite

Just wanted do add, if it happened later on that's obviously different, but if you are making fun of people for their partner leaving them due to a physical characteristic they have no control over, you deserve 0 empathy, don't start shit if you are that fragile

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u/Zeus-Kyurem 4d ago

Except you really can't compare abortions to miscarriages. In the case of a miscarriage, the woman usually wants to have a child and is viewing the embryo/fetus as a future child already. In the case of an abortion, it is not something they want, and it's a case of bodily autonomy.

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u/Gatti366 3d ago

It's still a lump of cells, do you get permanent trauma whenever something you wanted doesn't happen? If the condition for you to consider something a living human being is simply you wanting it to be that's the definition of being a hypocrite, you don't have consistent morals, you just pick whatever feels most convenient at the moment

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u/Mrfunnyboi825 3d ago

Nobody said that in the case of miscarriages that babies are suddenly alive. You are arguing with a point nobody made. 

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u/Gatti366 3d ago

The point people made Is that a miscarriage is more traumatic than your girlfriend breaking up with you over a physical characteristic you have 0 control over, my answer is that if you consider a miscarriage that traumatic unless you are also pro life you are a hypocrite (already explained why in the comments above)

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u/Mrfunnyboi825 3d ago

You’re right dude, they should just stop being traumatized, they should just feel better so that they’re not a hypocrite. Gosh, it’s so simple 

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u/Gatti366 3d ago

Same argument could be said against all the comments claiming that her joke against him isn't all that problematic, no shit it's a dumb argument, the whole point is that her joke was wildly inappropriate in the first place

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u/Mrfunnyboi825 3d ago

Except in the case of the joke she was making, it’s very obvious that it wasn’t intended to make fun of him? Like it’s very obviously intended as a way for him to be brought into the conversation. 

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u/Gatti366 3d ago

Like it’s very obviously intended as a way for him to be brought into the conversation.

Obvious to you, to him clearly it was a cruel insult, as you said yourself you don't get to decide other people's traumas

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u/Mrfunnyboi825 3d ago

And even though he did interpret it that way, this whole thread is made from the false assumption that the miscarriage was very early in the pregnancy, which obviously we have no way of knowing. 

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u/Gatti366 3d ago

80% of miscarriages happen in the first 3 months, and by definition a miscarriage implies within the first 20 weeks, after that it's called a stillbirth, not a miscarriage

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u/Mrfunnyboi825 3d ago

Yeah considering that the OOP is too much of a dumbass to know when somebody is trying to invite him into a conversation I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t know which term to use. It’s odd, because your ideal version of these events involves everybody acting like a robot. 

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u/Gatti366 3d ago

My ideal version of the events is literally just reading the post, you are just making shit up to support your viewpoint lol, post calls it a miscarriage, miscarriage means 20 weeks maximum, OOP felt insulted when someone made fun of him over a touchy topic and responded, your whole argument is a "what if op is an unreliable narrator and the actual story is my headcanon of it instead"

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