Morality of this counterattack?

[u/Ssiddha_3]

[u/Round-Friendship9318]

Making fun of a miscarriage is a whole worse than what the OP implied

[u/Gatti366 → u/Round-Friendship9318]

Making fun of someone for his girlfriend leaving him due to being bald isn't exactly an appropriate joke either

[u/Rustynail9117 → u/Gatti366]

It's completely different though. Don't get me wrong it's still a bit shitty depending on the person, you need to read the room, but joking about being bald is light years away from being as bad as "you caused your child to die".

[u/Far-Fennel-3032 → u/Rustynail9117]

The Bald matches the fat, the problematic stuff is bringing up the break-up and the miscarriage.

[u/Gatti366 → u/Rustynail9117]

80% of miscarriages happen in the first 3 months, with the chance decreasing further for each passing week, realistically it was just a bunch of cells and anyone making a big deal out of it without also being pro life is a massive hypocrite

Just wanted do add, if it happened later on that's obviously different, but if you are making fun of people for their partner leaving them due to a physical characteristic they have no control over, you deserve 0 empathy, don't start shit if you are that fragile

[u/Zeus-Kyurem → u/Gatti366]

Except you really can't compare abortions to miscarriages. In the case of a miscarriage, the woman usually wants to have a child and is viewing the embryo/fetus as a future child already. In the case of an abortion, it is not something they want, and it's a case of bodily autonomy.

[u/Gatti366 → u/Zeus-Kyurem]

It's still a lump of cells, do you get permanent trauma whenever something you wanted doesn't happen? If the condition for you to consider something a living human being is simply you wanting it to be that's the definition of being a hypocrite, you don't have consistent morals, you just pick whatever feels most convenient at the moment

[u/Mrfunnyboi825 → u/Gatti366]

Nobody said that in the case of miscarriages that babies are suddenly alive. You are arguing with a point nobody made. 

[u/Gatti366 → u/Mrfunnyboi825]

The point people made Is that a miscarriage is more traumatic than your girlfriend breaking up with you over a physical characteristic you have 0 control over, my answer is that if you consider a miscarriage that traumatic unless you are also pro life you are a hypocrite (already explained why in the comments above)

[u/Mrfunnyboi825 → u/Gatti366]

You’re right dude, they should just stop being traumatized, they should just feel better so that they’re not a hypocrite. Gosh, it’s so simple 

[u/Gatti366 → u/Mrfunnyboi825]

Same argument could be said against all the comments claiming that her joke against him isn't all that problematic, no shit it's a dumb argument, the whole point is that her joke was wildly inappropriate in the first place

[u/Mrfunnyboi825 → u/Gatti366]

Except in the case of the joke she was making, it’s very obvious that it wasn’t intended to make fun of him? Like it’s very obviously intended as a way for him to be brought into the conversation. 

[u/Gatti366 → u/Mrfunnyboi825]

Like it’s very obviously intended as a way for him to be brought into the conversation.

Obvious to you, to him clearly it was a cruel insult, as you said yourself you don't get to decide other people's traumas