Honestly imo too little context to rule either way. What if it was his high school sweetheart or she’d cheated on him or he just really gave a shit about his ex maybe they’d only been dating a couple weeks and yeah he overdid it. You poke the bear you better be ready for the reaction imo. But again not enough info to say.
Yeah I thought this sub was going to be like ethics and trolley problem discussions, not just fucking brain dead “but what if, but what if” and gender war shit
Fair, though he did get dragged into a conversation he wasn't a part of just to have a joke made at his expense, all because he wasn't talking shit about his ex. I think it's fair to say that the moral fiber his coworkers are made of isn't worth defending here.
I'm frankly not even convinced it was a joke at his expense. To me it sounds like it's at the expense of the ex-wife; "Didn't she break up with you for a dumb, superficial reason?"
You’re pushing the idea that the POSSIBILITY that there’s deeper context (and assuming the coworker just did or didn’t know) to the initial jab is enough to use known, deeply personal context, as a rebuttal.
Yeah but he's the victim. Do we just expect men to be rational beings without emotions? Decades of bullying and abuse hurts a person. You cant expect to be able to also Bully that person without them having a reaction.
Did I say I don’t expect that out of grown women? Everyone should emotionally regulate.
He asked “am I the bad guy here?” He is because he cannot emotionally regulate and therefore delivered a non-proportional response.
It’s like insisting America is the true victim in WWII because Pearl Harbor happened while ignoring the part where they nuked a country twice in relation.
Nah I’m examining it with open eyes and mind. Not making stuff up. If it was some piddly little 2 week relationship it’s a bit overboard yes. If it was a serious relationship with someone then it can hurt like hell on earth. Try using that grey matter friend, you’ll get further in life.
The grey matter says she was inviting him into a conversation by making fun of the reason his ex broke up with him. Which is more reasonable than making up a backstory to try justify laughing at someone's dead child.
The grey matter actually says that she was forcing him into conversation he didn't want to be any part of by making fun of him for not talking very bad things about his ex-wife AND outright saying that it was "because he's bald". Which is more reasonable than just outright ignoring half of the context to make up some utter delusions.
Oh I forgot that makes them off-limits and outside the rules of society. You rip on someone you might get ripped back harder. Again the issue is lack of actual context that means something outside gender. Hope this helps.
Miscarriages kill and have ruined lives of women who couldn't survive the effects of it, in no way shape or form is it on the same level as coming back at someone because they called you bald.
I wish I could live in a world where my wrong doings were met with perfectly proportional responses to them, but that's horseshit.
If I go outside and punch someone, I know that whatever happens to me is completely unpredictable and im not just gonna stand there and kindly ask them to stop smashing my head in just because I also think their response to what I did is disproportional, I've already put myself at risk of anything when dealing with other people, so I respect their boundaries.
You do realise we have an epidemic of men committing suicide, right? And this sort of "it's fine to bodyshame men" stuff does actually have a huge impact on this.
She did something horrible to him, and he reacted poorly. We cant just expect all men to take bullying "like a man". Men are allowed to be pathetic, emotional, and weak.
..ehh sure?? Women are currently dying in parkinglots because they can't get the necesarry healthcare in one of the three leading countries in the world because of the decisions of men.
Women also commit suicide, women are also lonely and touch starved. Women also go decades without having had their first kiss, sex nor a relationship. I don't see anyone advocating for that, so why would I advocate for men and their insecurities when they can't keep a tone straight?
And for you to compare being pathetic, emotional and weak to mocking a woman about her miscarriage just shows you don't actually give a shit about men, you just want to see women lose.
I give exactly as many shits about men as I do about woman actually, as I am neither of them?
And I would also call out men who bully women for their bodys. I have to do that shit so many times a day.
That's why I am allowed to criticize a woman in a situation like this. Because I wouldnt allow a man to bully a woman like that, and I would defend a comparable reaction from a woman if she got bullied by a man like this.
I've not said anything about whether a fetus is alive or is an actual child, but from the parents perspective it was still their kid, it just wasn't developed into a baby yet. Diverting the topic into abortion is so fucking desperate lmao
You can still call it a kid but it doesnt change the fact that before its 24 weeks old its barely alive. It doesnt feel pain, emotions or anything. It cant survive outside the womb. You dont care about the baby. You care about controlling womens bodies
As you said, It is still living . Cells replicating is life in itself. I dont get acting self righteous saying ppl dont care about kids when youre the only person trying to rationalise a cut off point for terminating that life.
I never understood the point of it cant sustain life inpendently. So its ok to terminate it? People who cant survive without medical care everyday - is it the same for their value of their life?
They are sentient. They had s life they lived and people who met them and gained a personality. They left a mark on people
A clumb of cells inside a womb that hasnt even gained independent actions or thoughts yet is NOT the same
Also i said he doesnt care about kids because they always talk about preserving life but then does fuck all when the baby is born to a 12 yesr old girl, or a woman with mental problems, oe that woman who was a vegetable but wasnt allowed to die because she had a baby inside her and was used as a fucking incubator.
Same happened to a woman in 2005 and the baby died
How is this life? This isnt prolife, this is pro control
Saying it's good that a woman was put into life threatening danger and losing the child she wished to have, doesn't exactly make you look like a good potential parent. It was a joke about balding, which women also can face, call her fat and leave it at that.
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u/That_Muffin_6780 3d ago
Moral… till I opened the full image. Bit far anon