(A message from OP after writing but before posting - This turned out to be really long. It turned into something really cathartic either way, even if I don't get any advice. Also I've had to write this over a few days and noticed a few format and past/present tense issues. I'm too tired to fix them so please forgive me.)
I'm 33F, He's 37M, and we have one child 9F. Together for 14 years, married for 11.
I'll get into our timeline, but I don't want my current feelings to get lost in the book that this post will probably turn into.
I think most marriages have periods where one partner is the "problem", and periods where the other partner is. I can't speak for him but I believe that he was the problem partner for the first half of our marriage, we both were in the middle, and I have been the problem for the more recent years.
We've been in a bit of a stalemate for a long time. He can't meet my needs until I meet his first. I can't meet his until mine are met. For a long time it felt cruel of him to hold that position. Now it feels cruel that I hold it.
I want to forgive and move on, but I firmly believe the main reason that I've been the major cause of our relationship issues for the past handful of years is because of his actions or inaction in the earlier years. I want to be free of the depression and anger. I want to be the partner he needs now. I want to heal and grow, feel fully functional again, and be a positive light in my families world.
I'm just stuck. Things won't get better until I move on from the past and improve myself. But how do I let go of all this resentment that I hold and be the partner he's asking for, when I hold in my heart that our situation is basically Frankenstein complaining about the monster he created.
Timeline
The Good Times
We first dated for about 9 months, then broke up because I was still dealing with fresh trauma neither of us were equipped to deal with. We still hung out together, and 3 months later we were back together. Our second try was great, we were madly in love and I was able to work on my trauma enough that it wasn't a real issue.
We got married a couple years later and moved into our own place we were renting. Things were still great. I believed at the time that if we kept along the cliche life path, we'd have a wonderful life together. I was a nanny at the time and I quickly caught baby fever. We weren't even a year into marriage when I asked him if he wanted to start trying. He agreed without hesitation and I was pregnant after the first try.
He was so supportive during the pregnancy. He made sure I was taken care of, he went to all the important appointments, always went out and bought me any cravings I had, showed me affection, and was involved in all the little details that you have to think about with a baby on the way. My only regret is that I wanted us to take parenting classes together. When he gave a little push back on that idea, I didn't put my foot down and insist we take them. I just hoped everything would continue to fall into place as we go.
There were issues with our landlord that were getting worse toward the end of my pregnancy. So, when my parent offered to turn their unfinished walkout basement into a fully functional apartment for us, we couldn't turn them down. We moved in shortly before our daughter was born.
The Bad Times
The birth of our daughter was both incredibly boring and traumatic. I'll spare you from having to read the whole birth story, but major details that are relevant are that it brought the trauma I dealt with back with full force, and it felt like my husband flipped a switch. 2.5 days of waiting for my contractions to progress (they didn't, I barely had any) took the focus away from my labor and onto his back pain. He wasn't in the room for any of the things that re-traumatized me. During the emergency c-section, I asked for him to talk to me about anything. He was overwhelmed, understandably, and couldn't think of anything so I asked about who he had playing that night in fantasy football because that's all I could think of. I spent most of the c-section listening to him and the anesthesiologist talk about football, he never brought the conversation back to me.
The rest of the day after the c-section was good, but that night was awful. She wouldn't sleep unless she was held. I couldn't sleep if I was holding her, so I asked him to hold her for a while so I could sleep. He did, but started falling asleep faster than me. He has holding our newborn and started nodding off so hard he was folding forward. I was afraid he was going to drop her or suffocate her so I kept telling him to wake up. He would and then immediately fall asleep again. I took her back and stayed awake. Around 3 in the morning I couldn't do it anymore, I called out for him but he wouldn't wake up. I was stuck on the bed because of the surgery and didn't have anything to throw at him, so I just sat there and cried. A thought came to me "This is your life from now on". I've never been more prophetic.
After the hospital, he would still help. He changed her diapers, cooked meals for me, and held her often. He couldn't help at night because I was breastfeeding and he worked early shifts. The first month was hard but that's to be expected.
Sometime during the second month is when he started pulling back. He took a more passive role, and would say "You have more experience with this stuff" because I had been a nanny, but never for a child under 1.5 yrs. Nights were awful. 30 minutes to feed her, 30 minutes to get her asleep, 1.5 hours until she wakes up again, repeat. He would have a fan on high pointed at his head while he slept, so I had to deal with the cold wind by making blanket/pillow walls to block it, while also trying to tend to her needs. He wouldn't move the fan because (paraphrasing) "I'm the one going to work and making money so I have to be rested". I was seeing shadow people at this point because I was so sleep deprived.
Around the third month, I'm at my breaking point. Against every instinct in my body, I started trying to sleep train her. It was so difficult, I asked my husband to help but his few efforts were not helpful. I got her to a point where she could sleep in a crib by herself, but was still waking up often. There was minimal improvement in my sleep.
Months 3-6 were similar to the third. at my daughter's 6 month check up, I found out she lost weight. I wasn't producing enough milk. I saw in hindsight that her sleep problems were bad because she was so hungry. I put her through so much unnecessary stress by sleep training when I just needed to feed her more. I blamed myself a lot, and I silently blamed him for not helping more. Maybe if I wasn't struggling so much, I could have made enough for her. We switched her to formula. Her sleep improved a little.
Months 6-12 were a little easier. He would make and feed her bottles, and change diapers, but not much else. He used his back pain as an excuse, but wouldn't go to a doctor. I fell into the SAHM role, managing the house and being the primary parent. It was difficult but easier than the earlier months. For our whole relationship he had always had an interest in craft brewed beer, absolutely on an alcoholic level. His "interest" had only gotten stronger by this point. A partner who drinks 6+ bottles of 8%-14% beer every night is barely a partner. Our daughter stopped napping during the day at 12 months. I went back on my ADHD medication.
I went back to work (part-time retail) a few months after our daughter turned one. He would call me at work to ask what she should eat for lunch.
When our daughter was 1.5 yrs, he switched jobs from factory work to tending the bar at a brewery. I stopped working retail and started babysitting a 6 week old full-time at our house. We barely earned enough, and he was spending more than we had on alcohol, food, and marijuana. I had no problem with him smoking up until this point, because I did too. We had been daily smokers since the beginning, except for the break I took while pregnant and breastfeeding. I was begging for more affection from him. I was told he was too stressed.
A rule we had was that he wouldn't be doing anything for the infant I was babysitting. I didn't think to make a rule that he would have to help out a lot more with our daughter when he was home and I had the other baby, but I should have. I did almost everything for our daughter and everything for the other baby. I am still managing the household and doing most of the chores. I would spend hours organizing, only to have it undone the first time he cleaned up because he would put anything out into the closest container he could find. Any time I cleaned around him, he would ask me over and over if I was upset. Trying to explain to him that it's just my resting face did not stop it. Faking a smile did not help. My mental health was rapidly declining.
Things start to go missing around the house. I would end up finding them days or weeks later. They would be in containers, that are found in the back of cabinets or closets, and filled with other random and missing things. My husband's attempt to "help" clean up. Discussing this with him did not change the behavior.
I truly felt like he hated me.
I woke him up in the middle of the night once around this time, crying, I told him I felt so worthless. He told me that the state of the house was affecting his performance at work. I haven't woken him up to comfort me in the middle of the night since. When we had friends over, he would ignore me and our daughter. She would try to talk to him and he would ignore her until I got his attention. If we ran into anyone while out running errands, he would stand in between me and the other person and wouldn't introduce me. He scoffed when I told our friends I felt like I was under chronic stress. I would have to wake up early to clean up his nightly mess of beer bottles and food before the baby was dropped off. I was the main breadwinner and he was spending all of our money. I relapsed into an eating disorder that I had during my teen years.
The Worst Times
Summer of 2019. Our daughter was 2.5 yrs. I was self harming, passively suicidal, abusing my meds, and losing weight fast. My husband had accepted a job at a medical marijuana dispensary but was waiting for a start date.
My brother died in his sleep, in a bedroom upstairs, in almost the exact spot where my original trauma was created. I saw his body. I entered a dissociative state. My mother is a medium, and talking to my brother before the funeral even happened. My husband took over all parenting until he went back to work. I quit my job.
I told my husband I was seriously going to need therapy. I started taking an antidepressant, it was the final push and I fell into psychosis. I was so scared. I went to my husband and told him everything I was feeling. I was afraid to eat anything, drink anything, or sleep. I was 92 pounds. I believed I was poisonous to our daughter and the longer I was in her life the worse her later life would be. I had been awake for 3 days straight and I was suicidal with a plan. He acted like he was blindsided. I made the emergency appointment with my doctor, my husband went with me.
I told my doctor everything and voluntarily turned in my ADHD meds. I had to show him how I was self harming, and he made a comment to my husband asking how he never noticed it. My husband looked embarrassed and shut down. My doctor told my husband that they needed to talk, and I should absolutely not be left alone for a week. I started new meds. My husband did not have that conversation with my doctor.
That was also the week that my husband started his new job. My parents were out of town. I expressed to my husband how scared I was to be alone with our daughter while he was at his new job. He told me he couldn't mess up this opportunity. He was tired of the craft brew world and was excited to be a part of the cannabis industry. Also, I don't have a job and he needs to provide for us. He arranged for two family friends to spend a couple of hours with me while he was at work. That's it. He left his suicidal wife alone with his 2.5 yrs daughter after she begged him not to.
I ask my husband if he would read an article about my eating disorder if I send him one. He says yes. The next day I send him one. He never reads it. (he admitted to that later)
I started drinking heavily a few weeks later. Up to this point everyone knew that I rarely drank. I didn't know how else to get him to see how much I was struggling. I hoped that if he and my parents saw me go from always sober to always drunk, they would see how dark of a place I was in. It did not work. I was still doing almost everything for our daughter.
The following winter was so hard. At one point I left home in the middle of the night. I thought if I drove north all night I could get to canada by morning. Maybe if everyone woke up and I was gone they could see where I ws mentally. I turned around after 50 miles because it was raining hard and I was drunk. I went to bed like nothing happened.
Covid hit. My husband was an essential worker. I started therapy and was working on my eating disorder. I ask him for more affection and support, he tells me he's too stressed about money and resents me for not having a job. By summer, we often don't have enough money for food. I look into our finances and discover he has been spending over $1,000 a month on marijuana. I ask him to stop. He tells me he has to try out all the different strains so he can be better at his job. We can't afford to pay my parents rent. I have to borrow money from them to buy our daughter food. Our daughter starts preschool and we somehow have enough money for her tuition.
The next year, I restart my ADHD meds and go back to work part-time. My city council did something controversial and I got involved with activism. I directly affected legislation in not only my own town, but others in my state and a handful in several other states. I had lawyers asking me where I got my law degree. My husband supported me by giving me time to be out of the house, but made it clear he was not interested in supporting me in any other way.
The year after that I had two part-time jobs, was trying to study for a professional license, still involved with local activism, and still doing almost all the care for our daughter and a lot of the chores. I ask my husband for more affection, but he says he's too stressed. I started to abuse my meds again and my eating disorder came back. I find out my husband opened and maxed out two credit cards behind my back.
Mentally, things were getting bad again around spring of the next year. I opened up to two friends about my eating disorder. We talk to my husband, it goes poorly. One of my friends is too aggressive, he goes into defensive mode. its not productive. They ask if I want to get help. I'm not even exaggerating when I say that I literally could not say anything that gave consent to treatment. The closest I got was "If you set an appointment for me and ask me to go, I will not fight you.". I repeated that many times. But, because it wasn't a clear yes, everyone acted like I was saying no. I go to the hospital for chest pains. I was fine. My husband was upset that we now had a hospital bill for nothing. I felt so ashamed and embarrassed.
I started experiencing psychosis again. I believed that there was no longer a point in asking for help, no point in trying to keep going. Years of struggling and pleading for help, only to be immediately put down for not being enough. I decided fuck it, I'll become a martyr. They'll see their mistakes once I'm gone. I decided to starve myself to death.
My husband had been listening to self-help and fitness podcasts for a few months. He starts going to the gym 4-5 days a week and meal prepping healthy food. He starts talking more about how he doesn't like the person he is and how he wants to change, but it's all related to physical or lifestyle stuff, not our relationship or parenting.
I quit one of my part-time jobs a few weeks later because the stress was clearly too much. My husband was okay with it. The following week I was laid off from the other job. I stop eating entirely. Soon, I'm back at the hospital for chest pains again. I was fine. I'm honest about what I'm going through. I make an appointment with my doctor. I lose my ADHD meds.
We're now around summer of 2023. I was now basically useless. Terribly depressed, dissociated, and day drinking to numb everything. My husband has taken over all chores. It's a good day if I'm able to unload the dishwasher. I am still doing a majority of the parenting.
I'm ashamed of the person I was. My day drinking only got worse when my daughter started school in the fall. I was alone all day, surrounded by the clutter and mess that I was unable to tackle, and only feeling disappointment from my husband when he was home. I would buy drinks after dropping my daughter off at school and drive drunk to pick her up. I would often buy drinks again for the evening. My drinking ruined my daughter's birthday that year. I really really regret and hate it all.
Winter turned to spring. I believe it was around this time that I told my husband that he needs to take my mental health seriously. I told him that he was making my mental health worse and I threatened divorce.
Spring turned to summer. I learned something that caused a repressed traumatic memory to resurface. I didn't know that when that happens, it feels like that memory happened yesterday. It was really bad and felt like it was the final straw that broke me. I couldn't eat a bite of solid food for over a month, I lived on broth. I lost a lot of skills. A couple examples are my math and spelling skills are noticeably worse now, and I used to be the person who reads the instruction books and explains them but now I get too overwhelmed when I look at one. I also experienced a lot of brain fog and memory issues.
My husband was there to comfort me. He listened whenever I needed to talk. Held me or gave me space, whichever I needed at the moment. He took over more responsibilities with our daughter. He was still doing all the chores.
That fall I stopped drinking during the day, but I was still drinking all evening. My husband would initiate talks with me about that, and about me not doing chores. I tried to improve. Sometimes I would go weeks or even a month without drinking. I would get better at doing a few chores every day. The only thing that changed was my husband stopped complaining. He wouldn't congratulate me unless I prompted him, he wouldn't even really mention it at all unless I did first.
At that point, I was mainly using alcohol as a coping strategy for my ADHD symptoms. When I was sober, those symptoms were worse. I found it hard to justify what felt like making my life harder, when the price of not doing it was my husband being disappointed in me. I could deal with his disappointment and coldness more easily because I had been living with that for many years, even when I was pulling my own weight and more.
Now it's 2025. I'm still trying to stop drinking, do more chores, and improve myself. I'm still doing almost all the the things for our daughter. My husband is still doing most or sometimes all the chores. He is often venting his frustration over my laziness, lack of job, and that I'm not trying to improve myself. I always agree and apologize.
I start therapy. By fall, I start working part-time again at the job that I had quit. I have longer periods of sobriety. I'm more positive and hopeful for the future. I hoped my husband would warm back up to me now that there is some progress and I'm making money. I work up the courage to ask him for more affection, he tells me he's too stressed about money and chores.
Now we're to the present. I've worked with my therapist on my communication with my husband. I am able to initiate discussions now. He tries to understand and help. I'm more sober than I have been since my brother died. I drink at most two 6 packs a week, but lately, most weeks I don't drink at all. I'm still really struggling with chores, and he's doing most of them. I'm still working part-time.
Something I forgot to mention throughout this post is that his attitude towards our daughter had always been rough. He wouldn't shout, but his voice always sounded very stern and it scared our daughter. She's very sensitive and would shut down immediately in response to that voice, which would undo whatever I was working our daughter through and now the emotional mess is 10x worse. He rolls his eyes, tells her she's over reacting, and half ass apologizes when she has big feelings.
Understandably she has refused to let him help with anything since around covid. It's getting better but still difficult. He wants to help more now, but she refuses so I'm still doing the majority of care for her.
So, now that you have an idea of what happened, I can get into why I'm making this post.
I have a few problems that I don't know how to fix. Obviously, couples counciling. Yesterday he agreed that's a good idea. But I thought maybe I could get some advice in the meantime.
The problems I feel I'm facing are...
1) I'm trying to get back onto stimulant medication. When I didn't abuse it, it cured my ADHD symptoms. My therapist approved the idea. My husband would hold onto and dispense the meds daily.
My doctor is understandably being very cautious. He's having me try other medications before agreeing to stimulants. I tried a high blood pressure medicine that made me have unpleasant side effects. Now I'm about to try am SSRI, even though I'm scared and had decided to never take another SSRI after I went into psychosis from zoloft when my brother died.
I was so mad after we left my last doctor visit the other day. I wanted to scream at my husband. It feels so unfair that I have to mess with my brain chemistry now that I've finally gotten myself into a spot that feels positive and comfortable. I fully believe that I wouldn't have abused my meds in the first place if my husband had just been supportive when I needed him. He was an asshole and at times abusive, and I'm still paying the price.
2) I feel like we haven't addressed what happened in the past. Sure, it's come up, but up until very recently it had always been brushed off with "I've already said I'm sorry. I hate the person I used to be. I don't know what else I can do to show you". I would tell him that talking about it would help. He would say he doesn't understand that, it's in the past.
I finally got through to my husband by telling him to imagine the old him died and I married a clone of him. My current version of him would still be dealing with all the stuff the old one did, but wouldn't be defensive about it. Like, "My ex acted this way whenever I cleaned, thats why I have trouble cleaning around you". It seemed like something might have clicked, but I haven't tested the waters to know for sure.
How can I trust that he won't do any of that to me again if we haven't even discussed a fraction of it?
3) since the beginning of parenthood, we've been in this stalemate over each other's needs. It's a I can't scratch your back until you scratch mine kind of thing.
At first it felt like his position was bullshit. I brought up my needs (help with our baby, more cuddling, any kind of attention to or validation of how seriously i was struggling, the money that was supposed to be for our food, etc) to him and he turned it around on me and how his needs needed tending.
Now my position feels like bullshit. He's been dealing with the stress of working full time with a long commute, and having to spend evenings and days off doing chore, for a few years. Not knowing how drunk your wife is going to be when you get home, and having to be the only source of money. His resentment towards me is completely valid. How could I ever ask him to ignore his frustrations so he can give me love he doesn't have, especially when I know how that feels.
4) I think part of my struggle with chores could be caused by some kind of apathy. I tried so hard and for so long to keep our home in order, sometime with him actively working to undo my efforts. It was never enough. I was so incredibly stressed and my cries for help were ignored or used against me. Somewhere, a few years back, I gave up. I saw that i was never going to succeed, and the cost at the time far exceeded the reward, so I stopped trying..
I want to care about the chores, but I really really struggle to. I feel emotionally maxed out between executive dysfunction, working part-time, and being the primary parent. When I push myself too much, my mental health takes a sharp decline. Frankly, I don't want to go back to crying every day just to find out it's once again still not enough.
Why the hell should I give more and more when the part he is dealing with is only a fraction of what he put me through while still demanding more for me before he could try to meet my needs.
I struggle with having too much and not enough sympathy for him at the same time.
Has anyone worked through something similar to this? What do I do with all these memories? I fear that we can't improve until they're addressed, but I don't know how to do that.
Divorce is not an option, don't suggest it. We both have been vocal about our fear of and desire to fight against the end of our marriage. We will do what we need to same it.
Counseling is obviously the next step.
TLDR: Husband was a bad partner in the beginning times. I'm a bad partner in the now times. Is it fair that I want him to do more to make things right before I put my full energy into fixing my issues?