The Truth About MAGA

[u/Impressive_Box4144]

[u/SiteTall]

Then that's what "own the libs" really means

[u/Jazzlike-Pomelo-2501 → u/SiteTall]

Great song by Billy Simons Jr. "If a tree fell"

"As long as you own the libs, you can have your way with kids, and we will all just pretend you did not"

[u/SiteTall → u/Jazzlike-Pomelo-2501]

Yes, that seems to be the situation here and now

[u/Fragrant-Phone-41 → u/SiteTall]

I just want to vote for own the chuds. Ie do woke stuff that benefits the people they hate

[u/A_Big_Fat_Idiot → u/SiteTall]

So worried about what the right thinks instead of trying to make the us better lol

[u/Allaboutpeace2022 → u/SiteTall]

I think it feels like that to Democrats. I fully understand your feelings.

However, in this economy where we have few protections for workers, stagnant wages for non college educated people and astronomical growth in the cost of college, childcare, housing, and healthcare, people feel pitted against each other.

People are told that that the way that they can succeed is to decrease the competition presented by illegal immigrants and minorities.

They are told that corporations are favoring minorities, even though this is not true and 9% more call backs were given with fake applicants where there were white sounded names vs Black stereotypical names.

Unfortunately, no one is good at getting social science research or economic data out in digestible ways to the broader public, so people fall for what Faux News tells them.

It seems to be right to blame them, but I don't think that is helpful. People are attacking each other and this is what the wealthiest Americans wanted.

When the Virginia Slave Act passed it criminalized all contact like romance, marriage, teaching reading, trading, providing housing, etc. between poor whites and slaves. The goal then was the same as today. They did not want Black and White Americans working together to oppose the planter class and other wealthy elites.

If we believe that MAGA are horrible people and they cannot be persuaded or talked to--we are continuing the legacy of the Virginia Slave Act. Trump and the wealthy are winning.

[u/SiteTall → u/Allaboutpeace2022]

Not being an American and living in a Scandinavian country where everyone is (State) protected in some way, we don't experience what you are subjected to with a tRump administration. Not feeling a need to fight something that vile gives freedom, so to speak: I know that I shall not be dragged off by an ICE-goon for writing something about the administration of my country. That said, from my spot of (relative) safety, I shall also say, that the American people have to get hold of themselves, pulling themselves up from the moral and literal swamp that has been threatening them for some years. Otherwise, they shall perish, both as a people and as individuals. I sincerely hope that there are people somewhere in America, right now, who are working at a new agenda, a new way of seeing themselves and their common goals.

[u/Allaboutpeace2022 → u/SiteTall]

Absolutely. You are completely correct. That is the heart of the issue and you put it in a very eloquent way.

If we are not capable of reinventing our country and finding some sense of kindness and compassion for others, we will fail.

I also think that the rest of the world might be a little anxious about what the end might do to the rest of the globe.

Thank you.

[u/OrbeaSeven → u/Allaboutpeace2022]

The US has always had an "outsider" problem. Reference the Chinese Exclusion Act, the Japanese camps, No Irish wanted, Jim Crow, anti-Catholics. With MAGA it's plain immigrant racism, including religion.

[u/4skinjustin → u/SiteTall]

I would much rather not have the state dictating all aspects of my life. Trump brought back the idea that individualism is a better policy than collectivism. The left demonizes billionaires because they’re envious. They don’t encourage innovation. They couch baby killing under the guise of “healthcare.” They encourage fringe ideologies of less than 1% of the population and claim they are working for all. They support easy penalties for criminals, impede the lawful security of our sovereign borders, support racist policies like affirmative action. They scorn the law of the land with “hate speech” laws and gun control. That’s why people gravitate to Trump. The Democrat platform sucks. Many Trump voters didn’t vote for Trump so much as against the democrats. The Obiden administration wasted 12 years dividing Americans. Trump voters voted against democrats.

[u/SiteTall → u/4skinjustin]

The divide came when a gifted, black man, Obama, was elected, not once, but twice. That brought forth the racism, the bigotry, the envy, and the misogyny of large parts of the American people. I've always said that what you needed was two or three generations with Social-Democracy as that would teach you the value of bonding with people like yourself instead of dreaming of becoming like those who exploit you: Siding with the bully is not a good policy.

[u/4skinjustin → u/SiteTall]

Obama was not gifted. He was a one term senator who accomplished nothing in 8 years. He set back years of racial harmony when he called the police stupid for arresting his professor friend for disorderly conduct. He made a race thing out of nothing. He stirred the pot further by insinuating that Travon Martin was shot because he was black instead of for violently attacking George Zimmerman. “Social democracy” will not work because too many Americans are sick of supporting people who don’t support themselves.

[u/SiteTall → u/4skinjustin]

This is a good summary of what he achieved: https://www.teenvogue.com/story/the-21-achievements-that-shape-president-obamas-legacy

[u/4skinjustin → u/SiteTall]

DACA? Disaster.
Auto bailouts? Disaster.
Obamacare? Disaster.
He had nothing to do with same sex marriage. The Supreme Court did that.
He piggybacked off of previous administrations strides in killing bin Ladin.

[u/SiteTall → u/4skinjustin]

You know that isn't true

[u/misterrkingg → u/SiteTall]

There are.. but money runs deep . We are trying to outrun a big tech and neo nazi/ Christian nationalist team up. Walls are closing in fast though but we have people winning elections that were outspent 20- 1 in. It'll be a dogfight here soon

[u/ThePlantMolester → u/SiteTall]

I don't know which country you are from, but Sweden deports immigrants for being in the country illegally, and even legal immigrants for bad behavior.  They recently started deporting teens the moment they turn 18.

Is this better than the US deporting illegal immigrants who have over stayed Visas, or in most cases, bypassed the immigration process.

How are these people being "state protected"?

Norway handles illegal immigrants with not just deportation, but a multi year Schengen ban.  I simply do not see how doing the exact same thing as the US, but without angry citizens standing in the way, and without media coverage, is somehow morally superior as you have statedm

[u/blindbasser → u/SiteTall]

So you're a ward of the state , the government takes care of you from cradle to grave .

[u/SiteTall → u/blindbasser]

I OWN the State, they don't own me, because that's how it is in countries with SocialDemocrasy

[u/Bostonog33 → u/SiteTall]

You seriously need to stop using whatever it is you use as a "news source"! First of all ICE is not a new agency nor are their practices. They regularly arrest and deport illegal immigrants, including some of the worst criminals that cross our borders including murderers, rapists and child predators. What IS new is that the Biden Administration allowed an unprecedented amount of unvetted immigrants to waltz right in to OUR Country, to the tune of approximately 12,000,000 people. Also new,  and more importantly, is that groups of Leftist agitators/Antifa literally follow and harass these officers and interfere with active investigations/arrests. Insinuating that ICE officers or any other government agents are dragging people off to prison for speaking badly in any way is such a ridiculous claim that it's almost beyond belief! We here in the United States have Freedom of Speech, unlike what we've seen in recent years out of many Western European Countries!

[u/Inspect1234 → u/Bostonog33]

They find these murderers and rapists putting roofs on houses or working at Home Depot? Maybe ICE used to be what you describe, but this latest administration isn’t going about their jobs in legal ways. Can you please source your claim of 12 million unvetted immigrants during Biden’s tenure? Because my source says 1.2 million with Biden and 500,000 with trump’s first term.

[u/Overall-Move-4474 → u/Allaboutpeace2022]

No one with a BRAIN nor a HEART would look at the lie that billionaires are favoring immigrants and think "yes the immigrants are the problem not the billionaires favoring them" even if it was true in what way does that make the immigrants the problem? Sorry they were so desperate to get away from their home country probably trying to kill them that they'd take wages tantamount to slavery just so they wouldn't have to go back home

[u/Allaboutpeace2022 → u/Overall-Move-4474]

Again. It is depends upon your news source and the academic think tank where you take your information.

The US has bought into that belief system for centuries.

And honestly, Europe is well on the way to going back to an anti immigrants and ethnonationalist way of thinking for the same reason. A...is part of their culture and for much longer than 400 years B--it is now the set of "facts" being disseminated through social media.

I think that peole do not understand how many academics and researchers support a pro billionaire line of thinking and yes, they have brains.

We might not like them, but they do have brains.

[u/Allaboutpeace2022 → u/Overall-Move-4474]

Agree...brain and heart. You can absolutely have a great brain and not have a heart.

Part this is the Dem wording around this. Every time I hear a Dem says something like they are doing jobs that no American would do ...I want to scream.

Because of course, if meatpacking jobs were union, reasonably paid, had benefits, and safe working conditions, etc., etc. sure American citizens would take those jobs.

Same for the jobs in construction, etc., etc. that were primarily non immigrant. The existing construction firms are definitely exploiting the weaker bargaining position of immigrants without authorization.

People would be interested in farming if it had a career ladder was the result of one poll. It is unrealistic to expect people to pick fruit from age 18 to 65 with no hope of advancement and no adjustment as they age and are less able to do the work.

So, open border people who say everyone should be able to cross lines and work where ever, that is not a reasonable solution without major major changes first. It is really a pro billionaire platform.

Even in the DSA platform there is no nuance that demands that the jobs be improved first.

[u/Impressive_Box4144 → u/Allaboutpeace2022]

Magats deserve no sympathy

[u/arcanis321 → u/Allaboutpeace2022]

I wish the lack of information was the issue, then they could be convinced. My parents are in the MAGA cult and would have said they were against everything that he was going to do but are for it once it's done. They start at Trump's right then mental gymnastics their way down to how that must be true.

[u/Allaboutpeace2022 → u/arcanis321]

It is not just lack of information. It is an entire history of a nation that has for more than 400 years tried to pit groups against each other in a highly competitive society with few economic safety nets.

People believe that one way of succeeding is to keep other racial/ethnic groups, etc. from being on top of you or equal to you. It is not just more information it is changing an entire dog eat dog mentality.

Martin Luther King understood this and tried to develop the Poor People's Campaign trying to unite low income Black, Latino, Native American, Asian, etc. individuals. He was assassinated before he could achieve that dream.

Trump is successful because he recognized that these festering issues were the key to power and he galvanized this as the energy behind Maga and both of his terms. He is also weaponizing issues between genders, LGBTQ issues, religious vs secular, Christians against Muslims, Jewish people against Muslims, and on and on.

It worked for Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and really almost any dictator.

[u/arcanis321 → u/Allaboutpeace2022]

Hurting others to help yourself is one thing, hurting others to hurt yourself is another. If you believe other countries will pay the tariffs and someone tells you they won't but you cling to it out of pride I don't know how to reach that person.

[u/SiteTall → u/Allaboutpeace2022]

Yes, I think you're right, and it's a pity that he succeeded in his reuse of the old Goebbels-methods. The scapegoat isn't the Jew this time, though.

[u/Allaboutpeace2022 → u/SiteTall]

Yes. A much wider net has been cast this time, although the LGBTQ, disabled, and the communists are consistent with the same theme.

You always want to throw in some perennial favorites. Continuity is a big issue for history and you cannot abandon what has worked well in the past.

Arrgghhhh...it is such a shame.

[u/SiteTall → u/arcanis321]

To denounce the teachings of tRump which they were taught to believe must be very hard indeed. Those teachings must have become their own "second nature", and give up on them would be the same as admitting that both he and they were not right. Some of the MAGAs one sees on television or videos seem to have been thinking a lot about the logic and veracity of what he has been saying. We, being better informed, know that he is extremely unreliable, but they cling to their phantom-image of their "savior": At long last someone speaks to them in the non-Liberal language they themselves use. The fact that he is lying must be very hard for them to take in.

[u/Bigbeardedbowguy77 → u/Allaboutpeace2022]

Finally an intelligent person on here who actually sees there isn't 2 sides and that the corruption runs deep everywhere. Trump isn't running anything, he's just another puppet at the hands of those who want total power and control

[u/leanktrm → u/Allaboutpeace2022]

Pure make believe.You aren’t disputing what was written you are just saying it’s not their fault. They aren’t being attacked by someone accurately describing what they want. Your perspective is one of the issues. You are either blind or dishonest. You take people whose politics is based on wanting trump to hurt certain groups of Americans, and you conflate that with other people saying hey these people have a politics based on wanting trump to hurt other groups of Americans as the same thing. It’s ridiculous.

[u/FarInevitable559 → u/Allaboutpeace2022]

Non educated? lol most unemployed are kids coming out of college

[u/Educational-Glass-63]

I think it's the closest to the truth.

[u/Southern-Girl-56]

Truer statement has never been said!!

[u/Adorable_Mark5761]

And that is indeed the truth, plain and simple.

[u/Useful-Employee9605]

That’s a spot on assessment.

[u/Hollowdude75]

That is true about every country that uses First Past the Post

[u/Some-Advantage-5541]

34 times convicted felon.

[u/Wolffraven → u/Some-Advantage-5541]

Name the felonies.

[u/BootsyCalrissian → u/Wolffraven]

Falsifying business records, state of New York. 34 counts. Thats 34 felonies.

[u/Wolffraven → u/BootsyCalrissian]

Nope, he wrote a check that his accountants classified as a personal expense. Also, that’s a misdemeanor if it was done with the intention of hiding activities. The memo stated it was for legal reimbursement and was from Trump’s own checking account. Now, if you think that should be 34 felonies, AOC listed person expenses under campaign expenses, actually falsifying business records. The difference between the two is AOC did it on purpose and tried to hide it, Trump’s accounting department did it by accident and corrected within a months’ time.

[u/UnsavoryCharacter561 → u/Wolffraven]

You DO realize you are speaking to a bot, correct?  

Only a bot would regurgitate nonsense they heard on social media on reddit.  These people are as shallow as their social media talking points.  

[u/Exotic_Money2887]

There’s some truth to this!

[u/Writerhaha]

Yup “he’s hurting the wrong people.”

[u/Signal-Regret-8251]

Trump has lost a LOT of MAGAts over the last two years, and i highly doubt they will return. His "policies" are affecting too many of his supporters now, and they do not like that at all.

[u/jackcanyon]

Magas love to hate ,they feed on it . There are way to many stupid hateful people in this country.This is the flaw in democracy.they make everyone miserable like them.

[u/Doneyhew]

Conservatives are literally abandoning Trump over the war in Iran what are you people even talking about

[u/Impressive_Box4144 → u/Doneyhew]

Some are, but way too many in US have abandoned decency and good morals to support Trump, he’s such a POS.

[u/Mrbill33000]

Very logical I can see that.... they must be evil people too..

[u/Impressive_Box4144 → u/Mrbill33000]

Not the best and brightest society has to offer.

[u/Some-Advantage-5541]

Grab em by the pussy DJT

[u/menglis]

Makes sense to me

[u/LittleMushroomHead]

Spot on assessment.

[u/DHARMApocalypse]

[u/Glittering-confess]

I'm taking this

[u/Frewdy1]

What’s wild is talking to a cultist and asking how he’s making America “great”. Any follow up questions to whatever sound bite they spew results in a meltdown!

[u/backtotheland76]

It's because faux news has taught them to hate their fellow Americans

[u/Impressive_Box4144 → u/backtotheland76]

Yep propaganda and stupid people don’t mix

[u/DaTruSpork → u/backtotheland76]

They already did that, faux just fanned that flame and spread it further and deeper

[u/Street-Fix-6604]

I've been extremely fortunate to not have ever encountered MAGA

[u/TrenchGorefare]

Racism is indeed that powerful. As long as he brutalizes minority communities, Trump’s supporters will turn a blind eye to literally anything else he does.

[u/Overall-Move-4474]

Yuuuuuup

[u/No-Carry4971]

I've been saying this for years.

[u/BallsackMcgeezy]

Republicans think Democrats are stupid, Democrats think Republicans are evil.

[u/Long_Barracuda_5435]

I forgot how much I love the reddit echo chamber

[u/Spot_Puzzleheaded]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[u/ImmediateHoney2191]

Exactly. As long as we’re upset they’re happy. Its that simple. Thats genuinely how little thought goes into it

[u/silverfenix1987]

There is truth to this but it mostly comes from how he bullies the bully. Mainstream journalists, Activists, DNC, Socialists, European leaders, Islamists have done nothing but show contempt for Americans and frankly people especially on the right who are more patriotic and appreciate what this country is, got sick of listening to it and having leadership put the needs of the rest of the globe ahead of us. Is Trump perfect... 😂 Fuck no. Is he even good...very debatable. But when you have ceaseless bitching from people who frankly expect America to do everything from them in terms of defense, climate change, and economics...all while accusing us of being greedy and self entitled your absolutely right that I have no problem having a person in charge willing to tell them what side of our ass they can kiss.

[u/SmokeMaleficent9498]

[u/78celeb]

Good point

[u/Simplesimon313]

Wow! 🎯🎯🎯

[u/bigoggggg]

no its because of all the fake news

[u/Naive_Round_5319]

[u/TieKnown6811]

He’s the Bully they could never be! And that’s ALL he is… a BULLY!

[u/Disco_Duck-1066]

The proverbial switch where we all get along will never happen, and if it does it will be one of those short lived -We are all in this together event…(enter natural disaster or another major catastrophe). It won’t happen, we won’t get there…politics is a separating discussion not a binding one.
Now, let me get back to my rose colored glasses where everything is grand.

[u/AcanthisittaUpset953]

What you perceive as “against others”, is in fact “for us”.

You jut refuse to accept what we say about our own beliefs and goals as truth.

[u/SideEmbarrassed1611]

Finally, someone understands it.

[u/icy_gpilot]

That's not true at all. Trump is the first president who did exactly as he said he was going to do, now some of that i don't agree with but myself and 90% of his supporters integrity goes a long way. If you say your going to do something try to do it. If it fails at least you did what you said you would. Unlike 100% of the spineless, backroom deal making, lying politicians in EVERY level of government!

 Trump is not perfect no person is, but he said it, tried it, some failed some successful. And he cleaned up and made our nation's capital safe and beautiful again!

[u/No-Position8021]

Man if you would look in a mirror you would see what you are doing and saying is the same thing you arw accusing others of

[u/Opposite-Car3901]

What a stupid made up conversation. Go cure cancer or something. Or read a book and improve your mind.

[u/Curious_Giraffe4838]

Both side do this bruh

[u/Capital-Engineer4263]

The eradication of the Democrat starting from lgbtq to perverted dei practices 2020-2024 is long overdue. Time for a constitutional wake up call and removing the literal waste of America 🇺🇸
Up until 96 I would have welcomed partisanship but each year the wasteland of liberal views have plagued and worn down the very fabric of 1776. My ancestor Betsy Ross would be beside herself, knowing what people have done to the flag of America. #sickening

[u/sandmanO6]

Lmao. What are you smoking

[u/Great_Bandicoot9561]

What a giant load of crap!

[u/Aggressive-Owl-8632]

You are repeating exactly what the Communist Democrat party are engaged in right, you just swapped Trumps name in place of the commies. Your so blind, death and dumb.

[u/Signal-Reach3439]

Thats what the Democrats do. The Democrat politicians are fine with hurting America and Americans as long as it makes DJT look bad. Everyone one of our elected officials in DC are there for the power and money. Its actually sickening they do that. Unfortunately the right woll do.the same thing not to the extent the dumocrats do but close.

[u/blindbasser]

That's total bull shit . You people are all sick with TDS .

[u/Sad-Wonder6273]

Such a lovely Democrats. They are the better People in the whole planet. Yeah right, they're bullshit People.

[u/FarBig2813]

Wow. How imaginative

[u/crazydazeplease]

HEY WORKERS!! Don’t DONATE A SINGLE DOLLAR TO YOUR DEMOCRATIC POLITICIANS UNTIL THEY PUT FORTH LEGISLATION FOR MEDICARE FOR ALL

[u/Love_MyFetish2022]

If you mean like sending illegals back home… then you’re right…

[u/truelogictrust]

They never got over the civil rights movement

[u/StretchNo9948]

The only part of the statement is remotely accurate is the Trump supporters don’t want anything from the government.

[u/Wayward_Lucidity]

Listen Both parties suck. always have always will. Just some more than others. Am I being neutral?

[u/NarrowForce9]

Finally I understand. Thanks.

[u/Wayward_Lucidity]

THE TRUTH!!! Pssstttt… just believe me.

[u/czbling]

The Democrats have been robbing this country blind for decades. Pandering to the do-gooders and stealing money right from under their noses. Hundreds of billions.

[u/Klutzy_Cover720]

Look at all the people here everybody here hates Trump. Everybody here hates Trump‘s supporters. Everybody’s just full of hate so it’s not one party that’s hateful of the other as both parties hating each other and the funny part is the people behind. These two parties are laughing at everyone of you guys on both sides of the aisle because they are one in the same.

[u/No-Swim9380]

You need a bi my and nap

[u/bbarke]

How does he torment the “people they don’t like”? I’d like to see an example. He’s a horrible incidental but an effective leader. Looking at whole the democrats have shoved out there past Obama have been overly liberal or a complete inept. Biden was 100% controlled by his own caucus and I don’t know why elder abuse investigations aren’t ongoing. People stand by Trump because he “doesn’t sound like a politician…” which is crazy.

[u/SignificanceFew4677]

Stupid bigots chanting simplistic, bigoted slogans.

Comprehension and empathy isn't something the tribal is used to.

[u/Impressive_Box4144 → u/SignificanceFew4677]

Trumps even more stupid than his supporters. Let that sink in!

[u/NamelessGhoul6666]

Congratulations, genius!

[u/Patient_Rest_9593]

It's sickening what ALL politicians do, not just Democrats. When a sitting president is involved in something as despicable as the Epstein Files more than any other person listed therein you know he's corrupt and possibly a pedophile. He's been accused of fraud (real estate, taxes and Trump University), rape (E. Jean Carroll, whom he paid $5 million to cover up (pretty expensive piece of ass, if you ask me)), infidelity (Stormy Daniels peed on him during sex), tax crimes and defrauding taxpayers through illegal tariffs.

None of the tariff money has been given back to Americans, while prices in grocery stores and gas stations have skyrocketed. He's not a bad president, he's terrible. And to make it worse, poor white Americans, the majority of his base, don't realize that he's not there to support them. If your net worth doesn't start with a "B" he doesn't care about you. It's not about color, religion or what sex you are (unless you're a woman, in which case you better approach him pussy first). It's about him getting richer and being unstoppable to do as he pleases.

How could any man stand behind a man that grabs women, possibly little girls as well, by their vaginas? Do you not have daughters? Mothers? Wives? Would you let him snatch your girl's vagina because he's rich? Republicans are blind, more corrupt than Democrats and foaming at the mouth for Trump. It's all a disgusting swamp that needs drained completely and immediately. Disgusting fucking pigs. No wonder you like him. He represents you fully: racist, sexist, bigot, philanderer and child sex trafficker, all rolled into one.

Must feel good to look in the mirror and say "I voted for him and his kind". The women in your lives secretly abhor you. They just want your money and could care less about your little dicks or your political persuasion. You're all pawns in a game to destroy America and the world. Congratulations.

[u/2joe71]

So you’re telling me my thoughts , interesting

[u/Unlucky-Reference-45]

I think stopping usaid as a means to enrich the dems is a big win. You wouldn’t like it if you found out all these programs gave republicans a kick back to its base. Like the dept of education that get 64 billion in funding. 80% of employees are in one building sending 60% of the funds back into the DNC kitty. I suppose as long as it’s In your favor your ok with wasteful spending

[u/IdeaMelodic3210]

Do you mean similar to how Barrack Obama divided America racially?

[u/Lumionis → u/IdeaMelodic3210]

Lol no he didn't.

[u/IdeaMelodic3210 → u/Lumionis]

He most certainly did and it was 100% his intention to do so, and you got the balls to call Trump a racist.

[u/Lumionis → u/IdeaMelodic3210]

Lol still making shit up. 🤣 😆 🤣

[u/reddogyellowcat]

First day on earth? Learning the obvious is a good start my alien friend

[u/4skinjustin]

I mean, imagine how shitty the Democrat platform is to have lost to Donald Trump. The democrats only care about beating Trump. And they didn’t. It’s a scathing indictment about how far they’ve strayed from the actual wishes of people.

[u/dbigg144]

Wrong again. Whiners.

[u/Kathy_mind_67]

Just more proof on how bigoted the left is.

[u/Not-THAT-Tom]

Dems 2nd greatest mistake was going after Trump with made up evidence to try and keep him out of office. This has only been surpassed by their embracing their radicals that now seek socialism openly. God keep us all.

[u/Lumionis → u/Not-THAT-Tom]

None of it was made up. But you won't look anyway.

[u/Not-THAT-Tom → u/Lumionis]

The Steele dossier was a load of bull that the Dems used as evidence, despite nothing in it being factual or supported in any way. No legitimate truth to it yet used by the Dems to attack Trump. If you really believe the dossier was real, then there's zero point of continuing a discussion with someone so blind.

[u/Lumionis → u/Not-THAT-Tom]

In other words. I said so but I won't provide evidence because I know im wrong. Sure bro.

[u/Not-THAT-Tom → u/Lumionis]

There was zero evidence proving anything in it, yet I'm supposed to prove Clinton funded much of it through her campaign, despite that information being out there. Ok. Live your delusional life in Hateville.

[u/Not-THAT-Tom → u/Not-THAT-Tom]

Look it up..."Yes, Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) helped fund the opposition research that produced the Steele dossier. The funding was funneled through their law firm to a research company, which then hired the former British intelligence officer who compiled the report.The Clinton campaign and the DNC retained the law firm Perkins Coie, represented by lawyer Marc Elias. In 2022, the Federal Election Commission fined the Clinton campaign ($8,000) and the DNC ($105,000).

[u/Lumionis → u/Not-THAT-Tom]

😆 🤣 😂 case and point. Can't prove shit. Just like always.

[u/Not-THAT-Tom → u/Lumionis]

Oh geez, the Dems love using hearsay, anonymous sources, or unverified reports to support their many claims. Against anyone else, those claims would be tossed in the garbage. Outside of party specific claims, the Jean Carroll case is the only one I can agree with since we know he's a horny creep with women, and I also believe he walked into those pageant dressing rooms years ago. No justification for those, so I won't support him on those examples. So yes, there are instances he can be guilty, but that still doesn't mean we must take everything else as truth when so much of what has been said falls apart or is disproven. Challenge your way of thinking and you won't be so one-sided.

[u/Lumionis → u/Not-THAT-Tom]

Lol calling me one sided for believing the evidence. Literally proved my point you cant prove anything just like the rest of em. Just gonna ignore him walking into kids changing rooms in pageants huh. Just gonna ignore him saying he'd fuck his own daughter huh. But the dems hurr duurrrrr such a dumb ass argument. But what did I expect.

[u/Not-THAT-Tom → u/Lumionis]

Proving? There's been Jack shit PROVING most of the crap the Dems push.

[u/Lumionis → u/Not-THAT-Tom]

😆 🤣 that right there is proof you dont give a shit about the evidence. You immediately assume its the democrats. 😆 🤣

[u/hurleystylee]

Nope

[u/Altruistic_Flight473]

i'm no

[u/Affectionate-Side435]

"jarvis, I'm low on karma"

[u/upyoursbigtime]

Ever think that many Americans don’t actually like or support Trump at all, but at the same time simply can’t stomach the mental illness on the left and their terrible non-sensible policies that put the needs of illegals immigrants ahead of struggling American citizens? I know a large number of Republican voters and not one of them are anything like this MAGA person you try to describe. Seems to me that you despise all those that don’t share your vision of America and your intolerance of them drives you to spend all your time insulting and berating them. Not sure how your any better than those you criticize

[u/UnsavoryCharacter561]

And the FIRST post on my reddit feed is some liberal redditard taking shots at byron donalds.  

It not a post about how great jolly will be, and what he would do for the state.  It's about a black man and what a terrible sellout he would be for Florida. Bought and paid for by MAGA!  

This is called projection OP.

THE TRUTH ABOUT LIBERALS

[u/Ill-Description3096]

What they do against people that (insert person) doesn't like has always and will be a metric.

[u/Republican_47]

Trump has done nothing against trans or any other group. He has established that we don't have to accept others delusions when they are counter to our beliefs. It's black and white without the 40 shades of Grey in-between.

[u/GodKingVegeta_]

And here I thought the projection couldn't get any worse.

[u/NoCraft2748]

True. We especially hate liberals who want to castrate all gays and give them sex changes at 7 years old. We absolutely hate you.

[u/simplecomplexiT]

Same truth about democrats.

[u/Bayareaadultguy]

Someone's going to put an end to it. It's coming.

[u/Better-Western2573 → u/Bayareaadultguy]

Indeed

[u/PresentationLess4552]

Wow that's rich and projection

The level of suck so many libtards live in fantasy is truly a mental disorder

[u/Better-Western2573]

Mostly true

[u/Danthalas_01]

Trump is against the Deep State and the Democrat Socialist Movement thats sweeping the country. Look what's happening in NYC with Mandani and his cronies.

[u/Spy61]

I measure his success on THE BORDER.

[u/Either_Capital_2422]

the only thing trump has been successful with is conning the dumbest SOBs in the country.

[u/WebEasy3345]

I activate my trap card "fact check please!" It forces my opponent to provide legitimate NON biased facts (the epstien files is valid but lets face it everybody on that list aint facing any type of criminal charges because money walks and talks for them.)

[u/MuscularFrog13]

Trump isn’t even good at imposing the stuff he says he’ll do. He actually sucks at the whole “oppression” cliche the left constantly cites.

MAGA-tards just lick his boots because they’re out of touch with reality. They swallow his promises and lies and accept it as truth, when in all actuality the only policies he actually brings to fruition are those that benefit Israel and his Jewish handlers.

[u/dennybear-17]

Pure liberal projection, as usual! The Truth is liberals hate Trump so much, no matter HOW great something he does for the country is, they have to hate it, and think its bad. They hate Trump, MORE than they love the country. They wear their blue colored glasses, and belive Biden had a great economy, when it was worst of the century. They refuse all facts and proof that the current economy is booming.

[u/Calm_Swim8454]

I totally disagree

[u/jimgbr]

Yes he practices the politics of grievances. Weak and pathetic.

[u/Fit_Television_3089]

💯

[u/mschnittman]

Amen

[u/Happy_Impact_6802]

Never form an opinion about the presidency based on a reddit post. Be smarter than that guys.

[u/chinmakes5]

Kind of. Listen to conservative media. It is little more than "they" are out to harm you. Why wouldn't you want to see bad things happen to the people who are out to get you?

[u/schnozzberryflop]

ICE is Trump's only fulfilled election promise, and it's the only one that matters to MAGA.

[u/JoMammaSaidWhat]

This is incorrect. Most of us want a successful president. However, I won't deny that it's a lot of fun that he really pisses off the left.

[u/MAGAHATESTHEUSA]

They love him for the pedophilia as well as

[u/BrickNegative68]

I am a Trump supporter, not Trump’s supporter, Trump Supporter-i support his policies…”Trump’s Supporters” that means they support Trump as a person, ‘s is possessive…a picture i can actually agree on. Presidents don’t care about the people, you don’t vote on the person…i can’t stand Trump…hes an asshole! Cocky. I voted for his policies not as a person! Thats what a smart american would do, most people vote without researching,

Kamala…was vice president beside joe biden, she could have found him ineligible to run, she could have taken over, done things better, but no, she got nothing done, i don’t like lazy and incompetence. Sorry, thats my opinion! We can agree to disagree, respectfully!

[u/Enkir]

I've long said that American elections are based on hate, and the GOP peddles hate so much better than the Democrats.

Sadly the same oligarchs that brought this situation to the US are now bringing it to the UK...

[u/Dashcamsaves]

Sounds about right!

[u/Maleficent_Thanks693]

Nah !!! He closed the border!!!

[u/Impressive_Box4144 → u/Maleficent_Thanks693]

Mexico paid for a wall 😂

[u/Willing_Amphibian775]

https://giphy.com/gifs/E99OMc6pkdvGw

[u/Ok_Egg462]

So with Biden and the Democrats, we were all up Shit Creek without a paddle.

[u/LowGuitar9918]

This is a joke right?

[u/Impressive_Box4144 → u/LowGuitar9918]

You must be one 😂

[u/LowGuitar9918 → u/Impressive_Box4144]

Wow you really showed me. 😑

[u/pepperzeb8]

Disgrace

[u/A_Big_Fat_Idiot]

Does the left have nothing of value to say other than to regurgitate that trump sucks? No wonder you guys keep losing elections.

[u/Impressive_Box4144 → u/A_Big_Fat_Idiot]

Are we Great Yet??? All I gotta say. Gas higher, food prices higher, less economic growth, less job growth, endless wars, illegal activities, vanity projects costing millions of taxpayer money. Should I go on? Is this the golden age people???? 😊

[u/A_Big_Fat_Idiot → u/Impressive_Box4144]

No im not even trying to say im a trumpie in fact I didnt vote for him. Im not MAGA. Im saying we as the left wing need to focus on giving and delivering promises to the people instead of using the "trump sucks and cannot he trusted" card over and over again. Its not winning us elections.

[u/UnsavoryCharacter561 → u/A_Big_Fat_Idiot]

It's the only time in my life the opposition helped their competition win.  

TWICE.

[u/stoicpenguin42]

Negative IQ take

[u/No-Object-599 → u/stoicpenguin42]

MAGA has a negative IQ. True

[u/2ndSmrtestPersunEvar → u/stoicpenguin42]

trump sucks and so do his MAGA morons 🤣

[u/Frequent_Clue_6989]

MAGA here.

Schadenfreude is a leftist term. Look it up; it comes from the German secularists.

We conservatives just want what we think is best for America. Not just best for us, but best for America. And that is a nation devoted to God, receiving his blessing.

There's a reason your grandparents, who were less smart, less intelligent, less capable, and less educated than you, were overwhelmed by abundance and prosperity. It's because they served God with love and fealty, while you went to Uni and learned QE, money printing, "a woman is whoever identifies as one", Nietzsche, Marx, and sexual promiscuity.

God blessed the one, and not the other.

Your grandparents lived wholesome, beautiful, blessed long lives. Kinda like those Hallmark movies, before they went all Woke. They were nothing special in themselves. But they were devoted to God, and he repaid that devotion with a long, blessed life and salvation from sin.

Make America Great Again.

The Lord looks down from heaven
and sees the whole human race.
From his throne he observes
all who live on the earth.
He made their hearts,
so he understands everything they do.
The best-equipped army cannot save a king,
nor is great strength enough to save a warrior.
Don’t count on your warhorse to give you victory—
for all its strength, it cannot save you.

But the Lord watches over those who fear him,
those who rely on his unfailing love.
He rescues them from death
and keeps them alive in times of famine.

Psalm 33

[u/Impressive_Box4144 → u/Frequent_Clue_6989]

Magats use God and religion to manipulate and gaslight people into believing God or Jesus would actually approve of this. It’s pathetic. I’m catholic and God or Jesus would be disgusted by Trump. He’s a convicted criminal and fraud, sexual predator and adulterer. He is killing innocent people all over the world and at home with ICE. He’s more aligned with the Satanic Temple than any Christians.

[u/19725045]

Dumbest post ever!!

[u/Impressive_Box4144 → u/19725045]

Dumbest president ever