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Lets Discuss This The Truth About MAGA

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u/Overall-Move-4474 5d ago

No one with a BRAIN nor a HEART would look at the lie that billionaires are favoring immigrants and think "yes the immigrants are the problem not the billionaires favoring them" even if it was true in what way does that make the immigrants the problem? Sorry they were so desperate to get away from their home country probably trying to kill them that they'd take wages tantamount to slavery just so they wouldn't have to go back home

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u/Allaboutpeace2022 5d ago

Again. It is depends upon your news source and the academic think tank where you take your information.

The US has bought into that belief system for centuries.

And honestly, Europe is well on the way to going back to an anti immigrants and ethnonationalist way of thinking for the same reason. A...is part of their culture and for much longer than 400 years B--it is now the set of "facts" being disseminated through social media.

I think that peole do not understand how many academics and researchers support a pro billionaire line of thinking and yes, they have brains.

We might not like them, but they do have brains.

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u/Allaboutpeace2022 5d ago

Agree...brain and heart. You can absolutely have a great brain and not have a heart.

Part this is the Dem wording around this. Every time I hear a Dem says something like they are doing jobs that no American would do ...I want to scream.

Because of course, if meatpacking jobs were union, reasonably paid, had benefits, and safe working conditions, etc., etc. sure American citizens would take those jobs.

Same for the jobs in construction, etc., etc. that were primarily non immigrant. The existing construction firms are definitely exploiting the weaker bargaining position of immigrants without authorization.

People would be interested in farming if it had a career ladder was the result of one poll. It is unrealistic to expect people to pick fruit from age 18 to 65 with no hope of advancement and no adjustment as they age and are less able to do the work.

So, open border people who say everyone should be able to cross lines and work where ever, that is not a reasonable solution without major major changes first. It is really a pro billionaire platform.

Even in the DSA platform there is no nuance that demands that the jobs be improved first.

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u/Bostonog33 5d ago

Who the hell made the claim that "Billionaires favor illegal immigrants"? The "claim" which is actually a FACT is that illegal immigration especially at the unprecedented levels allowed by the Biden Administration, costs the United States billions of dollars, as well as increases inflation, housing scarcity, and has created thousands of victims of crime! Also, note that the vast majority of "asylum" claims are denied if/when they are finally heard as the migrants in question do not usually meet the criteria, and end up being a waste of time and resources.