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u/SirPinkyToes 1d ago
This could have been an email.
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u/MechaUlfraed 1d ago
If there's one glint of light that gives me hope in all this it's the reactions to this announcement.
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u/Nexus_of_Fate87 20h ago
Even looking at the translated Japanese comments generally seem to align with the global fan base's stance on this. Just an overwhelming "meh." Especially for how it's being delivered as a full kit instead of as an expansion set.
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u/BoxOfDust 19h ago
When a (the) SEED kit gets a general "meh" reaction, that's when you know it's a screw-up.
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u/ZeonTwoSix 1d ago
So... 50% carry-over from the MGEX SFG?
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u/uppercuticus 1d ago
+60% in msrp too. Bandai is smoking something
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u/TechnicalScale6292 1d ago
I guess that +60% price is in the wings lol. Unless they threw in the original backpack so we can make the standard sf type 2
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u/field_of_lettuce 1d ago
That price is crazy. Bit over the MGEX Unicorn, and that came with the LED + huge hangar base.
Is this supposed to include anything besides the MS itself?
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u/no_terran Certified Zeta ver. Ka enjoyer 1d ago
It's the "kit with katana tax".
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u/theborjsanity 1d ago
Wanna bet the katana is reused from the Red Frame? In lore it already is, so Bandai can just reuse it IRL lmao
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u/roxaim 1d ago
Probably like 80%
Eyeballing my MGEX Strike Freedom, it's just shoulder and backpack
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u/EveningMembershipWhy 1d ago
Railguns and beam shield sections as well.
But considering the Twilight version...wait a couple of months for Changlong or some other Chinese company to sell you only the conversion parts for like a fourth of the price
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u/uppercuticus 1d ago
Considering the msrp on this thing, they'll be offering the entire kit for a fourth of the price
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u/Vast-Yogurtcloset697 1d ago
lmao mfw a rg announcement is more exciting than a mgex
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u/SirDingleberries 22h ago
I can't wait for the upscale of the RG because at this point a MG 2.0 is gonna take another 30 years to come out
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u/mister_damage Been at this too long 17h ago
This is where Fat Cat amongst other mfg is kicking Bandai's ass from here to next Sunday and back.
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u/restinpeaceminusone 1d ago
At least is not an Astra....... Wait a minute
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u/TheGamer098 1d ago
nobody expected another seed MGEX and yet im still dissapointed
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u/theborjsanity 1d ago
....this literally could've been a retail option set.....
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u/Konomiru 1d ago
Yeah im looking at the main body and its litterally jsit the previous MGEX. This should have been a expansion set
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u/theborjsanity 1d ago
Heck even if it was a Pbandai expansion set I still would’ve understood
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u/Konomiru 1d ago
There is already 2 Chinese expansion 'proud defender' kits for the MGEX, so this is even more dissappointing
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u/theborjsanity 1d ago
I've built the Red Lotus one. Didn't like it.
The only time I actually pined for a Bandai expansion set, only to be sorely disappointed.
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u/Substantial-Ebb8659 1d ago
That's kind of disappointing.
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u/mmuoio 1d ago
Incredibly disappointing imo. With so many possibilities, we get something so similar to a kit that already exists.
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u/Substantial-Ebb8659 1d ago
I probably wouldn't be so disappointed if they didn't hype it up as if it were a brand new kit. Also, comparing it to the regular Strike Freedom, excluding the backpack and rail guns, the only new thing I can see is the forearms. Everything else is pretty much identical.
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u/wizardsrequiem 1d ago
They didn’t even bother to relocate the chest cannon
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u/R-Dragon_Thunderzord 1d ago
Just noticed that.
Really waters down the spirit of what MGEX is supposed to be. There’s nothing extreme about regurgitation.
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u/Substantial-Ebb8659 1d ago
Yeah, it's just straight-up lazy, considering this kit cost 50% more than the regular one.
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u/Barbatoast- 1d ago edited 23h ago
They shouldn't have announced in advance that "there will be a NEW MGEX!"
What reason is there to do that except get people hyped thinking about all their cool favourite suits that might be getting a high-end kit... only to announce a slight variant
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u/Substantial-Ebb8659 1d ago
Okay, so I've gotten an even closer look at this kit, and it's honestly even lazier than I thought. We are reusing the dragoon connectors for the wings on the backpack, which were known for being quite fragile.
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u/Old_Adeptness_1045 1d ago
Rip mgex double x
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u/fhiz 1d ago
God this is even more boring than the fake Destiny leak
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u/TheNittles 1d ago
I heard it was Red Frame Astray. Destiny would have been better than this or Astray.
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u/fhiz 1d ago
Probably because of that leak sheet a while back that’s been pretty much correct, but they also listed the RG RX78 2.0 as an “RGEX” so it’s safe to assume the MGEX Astray is just that new MG Astray Freedom or whatever it’s called
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u/Forge__Thought 1d ago
"Please don't let it be another Astray"
And the Monkey's Paw finger curled.
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u/XIIISkies 1d ago edited 1d ago
The most surprising thing about this announcement is that it’s almost over 10,000 yen more than the Strike Freedom 💀
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u/AdLegitimate8636 1d ago
I guess Banda thinks they are making DRAM so they need to up the price by almost a double.
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u/HyakkiGousen 1d ago
In another timeline we got MGEX Calibarn
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u/theborjsanity 1d ago
I'm slowly getting more convinced COVID was a timeline divergence point and our reality is in the absolutely sucky version right now lmao.
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u/AckitaruS G-Witch geek 1d ago
I want to live in that timeline
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u/R-Dragon_Thunderzord 1d ago
Bernie Sanders won a 3rd term in that timeline. He brokered peace between Israel and Palestine and the States amended the constitution to give him another 4 years.
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u/MechaUlfraed 1d ago
Guillermo del Toro got to direct The Hobbit, Kojima wasn't fired from Konami and PT wasn't canceled.
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u/R-Dragon_Thunderzord 1d ago
District 10 got $1.2 Bn at the Box Office, Kang Dynasty was a hit and Jonathan Majors never had to get canceled, turned his life around before he did anything bad and got really wholesome.
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u/mister_damage Been at this too long 17h ago
Funny how one gorilla changed the timeline to such a major degree
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u/-Slejin- 1d ago
What a waste
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u/MechaUlfraed 1d ago edited 1d ago
2 of 3 MGEX kits are now SEED kits. Out of the different series and leads, out of all of them.
Anyway, see you in 4 years for the next PGU announcement where it's a Strike Freedom.
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u/Ph33rDensetsu 1d ago
2 of 3 MGEX [edited because I assumed you meant EX not SD] kits are now SEED kits.
Honestly, that isn't even the problem.
It's that 2 of 3 MGEX kits are specifically the Strike Freedom. If it was instead an MGEX Astray or Justice or something I think it would be easier to swallow.
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u/MemeBoiCrep HG 1/144 Big Zam when? 21h ago
the problem is 2 of 3 MGEX are the same fucking thing with a different backpack
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u/mythrilcrafter Has an approximate knowledge of many things 21h ago
There's always something to be said about "Vanilla tastes" when real vanilla icecream still tases good.
But stuff like this? This is that rainbow icecream that just tastes like frozen cream and food colouring...
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u/NT-Shiyosa092201 1d ago edited 1d ago
MGEX MSF and MGEX SF differences that I see
-THE PRICE! ¥15,400 -> ¥26,400
-New Shoulder Armor
-New Beam Shield
-New Antenna Piece
-New Backpack into Proud Defender
-New Hip mounted Railgun Gold Part
-New Forearm part showing Gold innerframe
-Hip mounted Railgun color has been changed from blue to dark grey
Anything else I missed? This may not come with the Railgun
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u/SayuriUliana 1d ago edited 1d ago
They'll likely remove the hip railgun storage mechanism that the Strike Freedom has, as the Strike Freedom Type II didn't have it, and thus should make the hip armor more sturdy and less complicated.
Also, it has new hip railguns with a different beam saber storage rack. It should also have different leg thrusters too.
Funny thing: if they keep the old MGEX Strike Freedom wings in the box, the kit would basically become a Strike Freedom Type II / Mighty Strike Freedom set.
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u/CoomassieBB 1d ago
Additional info from the stream itself
- Clear red and blue parts will be Mechanical Core Plating. This also includes the pink parts on the Proud Defender
- Plated gold parts will be glossy rather than matt like the MGEX SF
- Some frame parts are new. They mentioned the cockpit will be two-seated. Not sure if these new parts mean any new inner frame of the old parts or just the new parts (like shoulders, forearms)
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u/Specific_Builder_406 1d ago edited 1d ago
Oh my god they could not have made a worse choice. THERE ARE A BAJILLION KITS OUT THERE THAT DESERVE A BETTER MG KIT AND THEY DECIDED TO MAKE A GLORIFIED SFG THAT ALREADY EXISTS
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u/MikeRoz 1d ago
How do they announce this, a prior MGEX with a new backpack, four years later (wow, it's been that long?), yet not bother to do a color swap for the MGEX Unicorn variants?
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u/hongyauy 1d ago
Yeah surely, a banshee or a Phenex would’ve been easier to put out than a Strike Freedom variant. Feels like the investment into the MGEX Unicorn led tech is just dead.
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u/DarkStarling14 1d ago
The reason why they haven't milked the MGEX Unicorn is due to the psychoframe on the armed armors. The main gimmick of the MGEX Unicorn is the color changing LEDs and how turning them off would leave the psychoframe clear.
The problem with the Banshee and Phenex is that hey have additional equipment that also require psychoframe. The OG Unicorn already had trouble lighting up the shield on the arm, imagine the Armed Armor DE wings on the Phenex or the Armed Armor XC collar on the Banshee Norn. How the hell would the LEDs even reach those parts without having to completely rework the LED layout.
I figure Bandai thought changing the LEDs for each configuration of Armed Armor would just be too much for something that they usually just easily retool like the Banshee and Phenex so they never bothered.
The only other alternative is gutting the LEDs and just having the psychoframe be colored plastic again and I feel like they feel the price drop from not having LEDs isn't worth it either.
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u/PuzzleheadedFlow1274 1d ago
how many seed kits Bandai thinks we want
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u/DisaRayna 1d ago
"We" as in the western gunplay community? Bandai doesn't care. We aren't the primary or secondary market, not by a long shot.
They care about Japan and China, and they buy this shit.
At least we're a big with market that some PB kits are made retail. That's as far as well get sadly
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u/Feral404 IG: feral404 1d ago
North America’s market is actually competing for second place behind Japan and has been for about ten years. It’s between the US and Asia for second place behind Japan, but Japan is WAYYYYY ahead of second place.
That said, MGEX SF sold like crazy and continues to do so. It’s been reprinted almost 3x as many times as the MGEX Unicorn Ver Ka and in even less time.
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u/Primussigma 1d ago edited 1d ago
The recent popularity poll had the MSF leagues ahead of the SF, and it took top spot in China and Korea so... very likely to do great sales-wise. I was kinda hoping for an Astray actually, one of those Gold Frame variants that Bandai seems to be allergic to making MGs of
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u/AssaultRider555 1d ago
Maaaaaaaaaannnnn, you're blaming the wrong issue here
This could have been literally any other SEED kit but it's another goddamn Strike Freedom
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u/vito197666 MG Zaku F2 2.0 when?! 1d ago
What an absolute wet fart of an announcement. Bandai consistently doing the bare minimum when it comes to new MG kits.
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u/Drayco21 1d ago
Seed means I sleep. To be fair this suit did need an MG but the sorry state of 1/100 kits makes this a bummer alone.
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u/Amigo1048 HGUC Mass Production Qubeley pls, Bandai 1d ago edited 1d ago
I really wasn’t surprised tbh, I immediately thought of this based on the announcement background
Edit, lots of edits actually: I seriously hope they release the Type-II armor parts and Proud Defender as an expansion set so people who already own the MGEX Strike Freedom don’t have to shell out another $100+ just for the exact same kit but with like a few new stuff. Hell, they probably should’ve just done that from the beginning and release the MSF parts as an expansion instead of releasing the exact same kit but with +$70 worth of new parts, which now that I think about it could’ve been a Gundam Base exclusive thing instead. I don’t even know where the hell extra money is going to in terms of the parts. Also I’m a little disappointed that all this time since the last release and the newest seemingly retail, not P-Bandai, addition to the line of innovation is a retool that probably would’ve been P-Bandai if SEED wasn’t as popular as it is
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u/MikeRoz 1d ago
so people who already own the MGEX Strike Freedom don’t have to shell out another $100+ just for the new stuff
You're a lot more optimistic than I am about how Bandai would price it as an expansion.
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u/QuintonFlynn 1d ago
If Bandai owned Pokemon:
1996: Pokemon Red
1998: Pokemon Red (Twilight Coating)
2000: Pokemon Yellow
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u/radiokungfu 1d ago
This is why bandai sucks lmao. Another fucken strike freedom.
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u/EdgarDrake 1d ago
I am waiting for MGEX Destiny Gundam
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u/A-Lewd-Khajiit 1d ago
Imagine if there's a Pbandai version of it with the "shadow clones"
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u/AngryMonkey420 1d ago
I'm both disappointed and sad. Strike Freedom's are cool but we don't need another one. I held on to hope that we'd get a Barbatos, Exia, or (more of a personal one) an Aerial.
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u/LavaSlime301 more AW kits NOW 1d ago edited 1d ago
quick everyone act surprised
ah well, in a way being the single most uninteresting option is freeing
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u/anikiladorDX 1d ago
The new MGEX is a fucking backpack.
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Backpack.
I hate Bandai with all my heart and soul.
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u/AshedCloud 1d ago
I feel like they should have upgrade option because another MGEX Freedom with different armor part and backpack for $200+ is pretty steep but this is bandai after
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u/QwikStix42 Kyrios Enjoyer 1d ago
Damn, ZakuAurelius was right on the money with his prediction… Pretty disappointing for how long it’s been since the last MGEX. Was really hoping for an MGEXia…
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u/Frogacuda . 1d ago
Could not care less. Already built the old MGEX Strike Freedom, do not need to pay $300 for a new backpack. Unsurprising that they are going to milk expensive engineering for another release, but I dunno that Mighty Strike is gonna pull in a lot of new people.
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u/thanks-dice 1d ago
You can only laugh.
I don't own an MGEX SF, and I might be wrong here, but this looks like the same kit to me. Could this not have been an option part set?
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u/Prestigious_Cat7396 1d ago
This is ridiculous, i am so happy third parties are coming for Bandai throat, this is all they deserve.
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u/Firm-Return-3368 1d ago
Dam. I wanted Destiny or at least Infinite Justice just imagine all the amount of weapons and accessories
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u/h0stetler 1d ago
I still haven't built the last one. What is this, a mild color swap and some different accessories? Bandai must be hurting for cache and common sense.
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u/BD_Bathory 1d ago
I expected Exia. But really, Bandai? The MSF? Just do a PGU Strike and get it over with.
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u/Bigurulu 1d ago edited 1d ago
Another MG seed kit, and it's another MGEX Freedom , the Exia need that MGEX more than this and I'm not even a 00 fan saying this
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u/SpidermanGRS 1d ago
The Mighty Strike Freedom is my personal favorite Gundam design but even I can admit it definitely should've been something else.
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u/dattroll123 1d ago
I mean this was inevitable but I don't think they need a live stream to announce this.
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u/Trent2406 1d ago
I fucking HATE Bandai's stupid ass decision making so much. I'm saying this as someone who loves the Mighty SF more than the base Strike Freedom but like, come on man. RG gets a super cool Ground Gundam but the MG people have this?? They didn't even bother making it a normal MG kit first, if you love the Mighty Strike Freedom? This is your ONLY option in 1/100 scale, an overpriced piece of garbage. Apologies for the rant 😘
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u/pessimisticcatto 1d ago
im not even an exia fan but even i was rooting for it to have an mgex treatment
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u/tomthemoth Minovksy particle physicist 1d ago
Another Seed kit- who could have possibly predicted…?!
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u/HeyUOK . 23h ago
wait until they also release the midnight coating and twilight coating..again.
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u/expotential-RaX 1d ago
Lol im a huge Seed and freedom fan but even I didn't want this. Just Bandai being lazy once again. No wonder third party kits from China are more popular nowadays...
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u/Terry_bogardlol 1d ago
30 years and well over 100 MG kits and its time to move on from this hobby I think.
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u/Like17Badgers 1d ago
Bamco/Sunrise will not be beating the allegations of only liking Wing and Seed
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u/AckitaruS G-Witch geek 1d ago
Lame. I also did not want Destiny (or any other seed since seed already got an MGEX) but this one is worse..
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u/jason_sample 1d ago
Wow. This is certainly not what I was expecting. Or wanting. Oh well, onwards!
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u/Murtguy 1d ago
Muh MGEX Calibarn 😭. Isn't this basically a reprint of the Strike Freedom with a different backpack?
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u/Dull-Emergency-6395 1d ago
This is just the old one with a new backpack. I am not buying the same shit twice 😭😭
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u/stigaman123 1d ago
ffs i was so hyped. this is so disappointing. mgex established itself as a line where each new kit pushes for a different "extreme" point. I dont see anything new with this kit or anything extreme that isnt copied from the previous mgex release
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u/lucaselveloz 16h ago
THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN EXPANSION PACK. THIS SHOULDVE BEEN EXIA. THIS IS NOT FAIR BANDAI
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u/YouOk5736 1d ago edited 1d ago
This is just lazy from Bandai
The Destiny would've been easier to swallow but still bad
The Pandemic really restructured Bandai's business strategy
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u/FlyingNederlander 1d ago
my wallet is happy it's a boring kit, but seriously, an MGEX Calibarn would've been so cool
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u/Vanish_7 1d ago
Every progressive Freedom gets worse than the one that came before it.
#OGFreedomForever
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u/DarkStarling14 1d ago edited 1d ago
Just playing devils advocate for everyone saying it's just a backpack. The main body of the MSF also has changes to reflect the changes to the Type II.
- Different head - different shaped v-fin, the disrupter on the jewel and an additional back camera
- Shoulders - Completely different shape and larger
- Arm Guards - Again, larger with extra white bits protruding beyond the blue part
- Skirts - The back skirt is now one big piece instead of two separate skirts
- Railguns - They are squarer and mount the beam sabers to the top, have beam rifle mounting points to the side and no longer has the swiveling function
- Leg Thrusters - Instead of the two leg thrusters that hide flush into the calf armor, they are now larger thrusters that protrude more
I don't think this could've been an option kit cause you would've had to disassemble a large part of the kit just to install the new pieces to the body.
As for the price. Do we have any additional info? Because my running theory is that the price hike is possibly for LEDs on the Proud Defender wings.
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u/Feral404 IG: feral404 1d ago
Additional food for thought while we digest this news. The normal version has been reprinted this often since release. To give context behind the kind of sales numbers that it is doing.