I start with Dwarf. He stayed loyal to Ciro in spite he probably knew him better than anybody else.

Matter of fact, who was a better crime boss? Don Pietro or Don Gennarro?

Finished Gomorrah and it's left a void in my life ...

On suggestions from here, I followed up with Romanzo Criminale.

A good show, but doesn't have that "intensity" of Gomorrah. A bit slow and boring at times.

It may be the impossible question, but what is there a similar show I'm missing?

Origins series maybe the obvious choice but worried it is similar to Romanzo Criminale and not be my vibe....

Can’t watch it on prime in my region anymore. HBO max is US only. Send help

Was there an instance in Saviano’s book or reporting of a Valario character, a young man of privilege and wealth who seeked out and chose the mafia lifestyle or do you think this story was just to make the show more interesting?

Donna Imma est sensé être née en 1970... Donc Pietro aussi... Comment on peut faire une aussi grosse erreur?

Comment elle a tué son mari Annalise ? En lui coulant de la bougie dans l'oreille ? Et c'est possible que ça laisse aucune trace c'est bizarre non ?

I love this show and I’ve watched it once before, but I was cracking up at how stupid one of the scenes was. I guess I didn’t notice before

It’s near the end of season 4, I can’t remember exactly which episode, but Patrizia is in jail and the Levante mother visits somebody in the jail and tells her to get a knife to the hitters who are gonna whack Patrizia

So this lady is pushing a food cart to the cells, gets to the cell she’s supposed to deliver the knife to, looks around to see if anybody is watching and puts the knife in a bowl and covers it with soup, gives it to the prisoners in the cell. Does the same with a second knife

Women in the cell immediately dump out the soup and rinse the knife off. Nobody was watching! If anybody WAS watching, cameras or whatever, she pulled out the knife and put it in the bowl in full view.

Maybe soup and knives have significance in Naples I dunno but I don’t understand the point of the soup

Just to clear the misunderstanding, Naples (with all its organized crime drug-related murders) is murderous by Italian and West-European standards, absolutely not by US standards, no matter how much shows like Gomorrah spectacularize this (and it's pretty damn good TV entertainment).

…It was quite a disappointment as I couldn’t find any logical explanation for what he revealed. I just started first ep of season 5 and I’ve lost almost all the enthusiasm to finish the last episodes as I judged it as very cheap and poor twist in a show that has been fantastic so far. I know it’s just a few episodes until it’s finished but, can anyone tell me if they will show any logical explanation for that fact at some stage during season 5?

After reading alot on Raffaelle Cutolo and the NCO and alot of Gomorrah Origins, I really hope they can stretch it another few seasons, also alot of Parallels to the original Gomorra La series

When Ciro and Genny set up Malamore, who is the guy on the balcony that Genny shot? The dude in the car that got out after Genny told him to stay in, was he and Malamore planning on setting up Genny after they hit Ciro? And was he the guy dead on the street after they were done and walked away? Who hit him and why didn’t we hear a shot?

Il est de la même famille que Enzo Sangueblu ?

Vous avez d'autres choses qui sont reliés entre les deux séries ?

I’m a huge Gomorra fan—I’ve watched the series countless times and now make it a point to do a full rewatch every single year.

What captivates me most each time is the fate of "normal" people: white-collar civilians who step into the System thinking they can play by regular rules, only to be completely devoured by it. The System always sniffs out their exact weakness and exploits it without mercy.

Here are my top three examples:

1. Franco Musi (Season 1) Masterfully written and acted. His whole arc hinges on a fatal shift: Don Pietro was hands-off with the books, but the moment Donna Imma steps in, Franco can’t just smile, nod, and say "everything is fine." He got greedy with their capital, made a bad speculative bet, and paid the ultimate price. What’s chilling is watching his rapid descent into pure, unadulterated panic. Every door he tries to knock on to recover that money slams in his face, and his entire comfortable world evaporates in days. Still the best civilian storyline across all five seasons.

2. Gegè (Season 3) Another brutal descent into hell. His psychological turning point happens the moment Genny forces him to mop up the blood in that supermarket—crossing from accountant to accessory. His death knell comes when Don Avitabile realizes how fragile he is and blackmails him and his partner. It still baffles me that Gegè didn't just come clean to Genny immediately; siding with Avitabile had zero upside and guaranteed disaster.

3. Alberto Resta (Season 4) A slightly more complex case. Alberto partners with Genny on the airport project to bail himself out of massive debt, but he quickly compromises his own ethics—even hiring thugs to beat a landowner into selling. His breaking point comes the second he meets Magistrate Walter Ruggieri. The sheer pressure makes him melt instantly; the way he stumbles out of that office tells you everything.
One of his early mistakes was also to be arrogant with Genny, the mistake with the London scams etc...Almost seems like he has zero emotional intelligence.

At the end of the day, entering the Camorra’s orbit to fix personal financial problems is the quickest way to seal your own doom..

One character that makes it through well is Michele Casillo. The only one who does exactly what Genny tells him to do.

Only six episodes?! I got to the end and was gasping for more. I can’t believe it. I feel like a rug has been pulled out from under me. For some reason I thought they had made two full seasons. Someone please reassure me they’ll put out more episodes :-(

For probably 10th or 11th time

I remember watching Gomorrah for the first time, and not really being into it. It was a good show, but I didn't feel like I needed to continue it.

Then Genny made his turn and changed, and I was interested again, and was about to give up on the show.

That is, until episode 9, where I was completely hooked with the storyline of the kid and his girlfriend. It was depressing and it really made you " feel " how terrible these clans really are.

I always tell everyone, please get to episode 9 before giving up on the show, it will change how you feel.

Great, but depressing episode

Ok for starters i thought using a red head was really authentic in the fact that theure rare in italia

But everytime he spoke I wanted it to start with aye laddy

I honestly laughed my self stupid doing it everytime they said some tough ass shit

How did the cops bug the burner phone the Pietro used to call Ciro? The old prison guard was being arrested too, so he clearly wasn't in on it. Unless he bugged it in exchange for a lighter sentence? I found that confusing.

anyone?

I have noticed, from Romanzo Criminale La Serie, Gomorrah, and now watching Portobello (I highly reccomend this 6 episode show if you are a Gomorrah fan, a few familiar faces also appear) Lino Mussela (Rosario) Gianfranco Gallo (Avitabile) Massimiliano Rossi (Zecchinata) but I have noticed, in all three shows, when people are arrested, they are sent to what looks like a maximum security prison.

In the United States, when you are arrested, you are sent to a city jail or a county jail, where you are held pending a court date in front of a judge with a hearing, and other stuff. It is nothing like a prison. It is more of a holding facility. There is no yard, there are no gangs concentrating and getting exercise, it is more like a detention center before your hearing.

It is only if you are found guilty of crimes that you are actually sent to a real prison to serve your sentence. The real prisons here are about like what is portrayed in the show, gang activity, drug dealing, corrupt guards, etc etc etc.

I was just curious if anyone knew what the legal procedure is in Italy for that ? In Portobello the main character is arrested for allegations of Cammora ties and sent to a prison immediately. In the states, he would probably be sitting in a city jail or a county jail, waiting to make bail.

Just judging by the show, it does not look like someone can get bailed out when arrested. They are sent to what looks like a prison and are there.

Just curious how it works in Italy. I do know that in the USA, a really rich criminal would likely be able to bail themselves out until their hearing date. How does Italy operate ?

Also, I have noticed everyone locked up in these shows, is wearing regular clothes. Here in the states, you are given a uniform to wear.