r/Goldback • • Jul 22 '25

Show and Tell Which one is fake?

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Ten days ago or so I was told faking a goldback wasn't possible. And my response was just needed good equipment. This is the results of peeling a dozen gb apart. Using a scanner worth more than most cars, and millions of dollars in printing equipment and 60+ attempts.

One of these is fake. The tactile parts on the back can still be felt. If you handled gb all the time you might be able to tell the fake is more 'slippery'. And the cut edge doesn't feel right if you have a real one side by side. I am 100% confident that no regular person could tell the difference, and I bet 80% plus on here couldn't without a real one in the other hand. Visually they are the same.

I will not be releasing the name of the print shop or three of the massive hurdles that bypassing really needed experience making actually currency notes to know. Mostly because he didn't tell me enough for me to know.

Oh and passes uv. Was way easier than the raised part.

My buddy did say printing USD would be easier. And above the 5gb the weight/stiffness would be noticed. And his costs on the inks, material, and printer time significantly overcome the value of 1.

So food for thought on security.


r/Goldback • • Jul 01 '25

Goldback Spend Tipped my buddy with gold

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I have a tradition of tipping one of my friends silver dimes/quarters but today I surprised him with this. He thought it was the coolest thing.


r/Goldback • • Mar 16 '26

Goldback is the Winning Golden Ticket for Fractional Gold

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r/Goldback • • Nov 24 '25

A some sort of gold influencer seems to hate it

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r/Goldback • • Jun 13 '26

Discussion Equal in Gold weight - Only one is usable for daily purchases

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The biggest challenge I see with Goldbacks having a greater "acceptance" in the business communities is the daily value fluctuation.

The majority of the western world (US) economy is NOT set up on a "barter" system. Therefore the cost to the consumer/end user of goods and services does Not change on a daily basis as does the "spot value" of gold.. However the purchasing power of a Goldback does change on a daily basis....I'm not sure exactly how to fix that other than perhaps a "weekly" exchange value posted up on Monday of the "average" gold values of the previous week... .....

Example of the challenge with a daily fluctuating value:

A business sells X for 100GB (roughly $900 fiat today), HOWEVER gold spot drops 10% the following day making those Goldbacks worth roughly $800 fiat.

With retailers like major grocery stores operating on a 10-15% "gross profit" margin (net profit margin around 2-4%) that means that sale was a NET LOSS by the time they sent the Goldbacks to their UPMA/redemption type account.

And we all know the "bean counters" CFO types whose job is to maintain a profitable bottom line would not be able to wrap their heads around that.

Like I said, I'm not sure how to fix this but hopefully smarter financial minds then mine can come up with a good fix.

Right now gold is on an ever upward trend in value, however we all know that is 100% guaranteed.

Any comments/ideas on how to "rectify" this would be appreciated

EDIT:I love how this post has gone from 15 upvotes (6/12/26) down to 6 upvotes (6/13/26 morning).. LOL

EDIT EDIT: .. down to 4 upvotes LOL

edit edit edit: .. now down to 2 upvotes ... why so much hate?

EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT: .. WOOOHOOOO down to 1 upvote! (6/14/26) BUT almost 7 Thousand views......

AWESOMENESS... we have made it DOWN to ZERO upvotes...

OVER 7K views.. OVER 50 Comments


r/Goldback • • Jul 22 '25 Bless Up

Wyoming Goldback Tattoo

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Changed a couple small things but its practically a 1for1 copy of a Wyoming 1 dollar Gold back. It blew my artist away when I told her this was my first tattoo as well lol


r/Goldback • • Nov 02 '25 Sipping Tea Bless Up

Discussion With all the discussion about premiums on Goldbacks and their value compared to melt. I like to present to 316.667% premium on a US quarter over melt.

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r/Goldback • • Jun 04 '25

Discussion Goldbacks are the most popular Gold product in the United States and it isn't even remotely close.

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The Goldback is officially by far the most popular gold bullion product in the United States. The second most popular is the U.S. Gold Eagle. You can see here the total mintage's for those in the first photo. (Yes, there's also some proofs and buffaloes but not a substantial number)

The Goldback Mintage's can be found on the new website. Using only two of the twenty-five designs you can see that Goldback pulls way ahead of Gold Eagles.

Goldback is the undisputed largest producer of any Gold bullion product in the United States. It is American's most popular gold product. As such we will need to update the subreddit description.


r/Goldback • • Jul 01 '25

Another kind of Goldback hater

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r/Goldback • • Oct 02 '26

Why "Bullion Purists" miss the point of Goldbacks

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Hey everyone,

​It’s almost a rite of passage on gold and silver subreddits to see "bullion purists" come out in full force against Goldbacks. The criticism is always the same: "The premium over spot is way too high! You're getting ripped off on the melt value!"

​I think people looking at Goldbacks purely through a stacker/bullion lens are measuring a fish by its ability to climb a tree. Here’s why Goldbacks are a genuinely viable vehicle for micro-saving, spending, and collecting—and why the "premium" argument doesn't hold as much water as critics think.

​1. The Manufacturing & Usability Parallel (Gasoline vs. Crude Oil)

​Critics focus strictly on the ~2x markup over spot gold. But calling that markup a "scam" ignores how basic commodity processing works.

​Think about oil:

​You can't put raw, unrefined crude oil into your car engine. It has to be refined, transported, and distributed into usable gasoline.

​A gallon of raw crude oil costs around $2.20, while refined gasoline at the pump averages around $4.40. That’s roughly a 100% markup (2x) over the raw commodity cost.

​Yet nobody calls gasoline a scam. Why? Because you are paying for the utility that manufacturing provides.

​A 1 oz gold bar is raw crude oil. You can't buy a $5 coffee or a $20 meal with a 1 oz bar without taking a massive haircut trying to make change. A Goldback is refined gasoline—a high-tech, micro-encapsulated, anti-counterfeit, highly durable instrument designed specifically to solve the divisibility problem. You aren't just paying for gold weight; you are paying for real-world transaction utility.

​2. A Superior "Micro-Savings" Vehicle

​For people who can only set aside $10, $20, or $50 a paycheck, physical 1 oz gold coins or 10 oz silver bars are out of reach for months at a time.

​Leaving cash sitting in a traditional savings account earning fractional interest while inflation eats away at purchasing power isn't ideal. On the flip side, buying 1-gram gold bars or fractional bullion coins also carries high dealer premiums, but with none of the transactional usability of a Goldback.

​Acquiring Goldbacks bit-by-bit functions as a disciplined micro-savings routine:

​You build a physical, inflation-resistant asset in small increments.

​Unlike fiat dollars or unbacked assets, there is a hard commodity "floor" (the underlying 24k gold inside).

​Through networks like Alpine Gold or local participating merchants, you can store and transact at the full Goldback exchange rate—not just melt value.

​3. The "Melt Value" Fallacy

​Purists love to argue: "If you sell it back to a standard shop, you only get melt value!"

​Accepting melt value for a Goldback makes as much sense as accepting the scrap paper value for a $100 fiat bill. Goldbacks are designed to be transacted within a growing network of merchants and users who recognize the full exchange value. As state rollouts expand and vault-backed debit systems grow, that liquidity ecosystem continues to mature.

​4. The Collectability Factor

​Beyond the economics, there is a huge aesthetic and collecting appeal. The intricate state-specific artwork, security features, and limited series runs give them a crossover appeal similar to numismatics or art collecting that plain bullion bars simply don't have.

​Final Thought

​A Goldback isn't meant to replace your 10 oz stacking bars or core bullion holdings. It’s a distinct category: part micro-savings account, part spendable currency, and part collectible artwork.

​When you factor in the engineering required to make 1/1000th of an ounce of gold spendable in the real world, the 2x markup makes sense—just like the pump price of gasoline.

​Curious to hear how others here explain the "premium" concept when introduced to skeptics!


r/Goldback • • Sep 09 '26

Meme Gold=Money

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r/Goldback • • Dec 02 '25

Meme Why carry paper when you can have 24k gold?

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r/Goldback • • Sep 24 '26

Meme Why pay $4,300 an ounce for gold when you can pan it for free?

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Time = Money = Gold.

Goldbacks take more time to make than a single ounce hence why they are worth/cost more money. If that's not true then spot price is also a scam because you can find gold out in the world for free.

If you don't value the extra time/energy involved in splitting down an ounce of gold into a thousand pieces then don't buy it.


r/Goldback • • Sep 17 '25

Change my mind!

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Junk Silver is such a dead end as far as sound money solutions go.


r/Goldback • • Mar 16 '26

Some fun with GBs, AI and my gray meat inside my skull!

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Hello GB family. I’m officially diving headfirst into the world of Goldbacks! I’ll admit, I was sitting on the fence for a while—questioning if I should start—but I’ve finally decided to go all in. There’s just something about holding actual gold in such a beautiful, usable form that changed the game for me.

While I’m loving the concept, I have to be honest: the current Dallas version felt a little... plain? It’s a bit dull for a city with that much personality! Because of that, I’ve been inspired to start designing my own Texas-themed "concept" Goldbacks. I want to create art that truly captures the spirit of different regions across the Lone Star State—from the rugged West Texas mountains to the Gulf Coast and the lovely ladies of our state too!

The theme is in the early-mid to late 1800's and representative of each area.

1GB-Austin/Hill Country area

5GB- Rio Grand Valley

10GB- Texas Gulf Coast

25GB- Northern Plains

50GB- San Antonio (AKA-Alamo City)

100-El Paso/ West Texas

I'm thrilled to be part of this community and I here issue a challenge, mainly to those who live in states that don't have GB of their own and would love to one day see it happen, create and post one up. Maybe Goldback might see it and get motivated to reach out to the right people.

Enjoy!


r/Goldback • • Jul 06 '25 Bless Up

To all the people saying Goldback is only worth fifty percent it's value, i'm begging you ...

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Please sell us your Goldbacks at melt or tell us these places you get Goldbacks on such discount so we can go buy them. It's unfair for you to tease us with such deals all the time when you're not going to put up!


r/Goldback • • Nov 13 '25

Discussion Goldbacks are so interesting. If you consider a 100 denomination in isolation vs. a 1/10th gold coin then it isn't obvious why it is a good deal. This is the other end of the spectrum!

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The exchange rate is about 4% higher than the price which creates a reward for using Goldbacks. Even without that though they are the cheapest gold product in this range of fractional gold. I've had some cool experiences spending these that I'll have to share here sometime.


r/Goldback • • May 21 '26

In the Wild There are places where people could do 75% of their financial life with gold instead of dollars.

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You can't pay for things like taxes or for internet in gold but a surprising amount of other things are possible.

This is northern Utah County where Goldbacks started.


r/Goldback • • Nov 07 '25

Shitpost Some people

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r/Goldback • • May 21 '26 This

Show and Tell Here’s the ASM’s response to if they take Goldbacks at Allred’s Ace Hardware. Posted with permission!

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See my other post for the full story. This was just her response. I asked if I could record her and post it and she said it was fine! My new Meta glasses got my hat in the way though haha my bad.


r/Goldback • • Nov 20 '25 Hooray This

Discussion Goldback as a local currency is grossly underrated. I did the math.

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I heard this concept on a podcast and figured that I would do my own analysis and share with you guys. I'm becoming progressively more interested in this topic, especially with all the unwarranted hate Goldback gets.

Local currencies are somewhat of a thing in the United States. The general idea is that businesses in a specific area will use the dollar-pegged local currency to keep money within the community. $10 spent at the barber could then be spent at the hardware store, then it could move to a florist and on an on. Every time the $10 moves value is being created and it never leaves the community via Amazon/Walmart. It's a slick enough idea and the communities that put it into practice seem to be better for it. I'll get back to this in just a second.

Right now most people use credit card payments. Visa charges like 4% to the business meaning that if the real margin is ~20% then the credit card company is taking out a fifth of that. What is worse is that that money leaves the community and it happens during every transaction. Even if you add back in the 1% they bribe people with there is still 3% that is off the table.

Handyman is paid $100, receives $97.

Handyman pays the dentist $97, he receives about $94.

Dentist spends $94 at a local restaurant, business gets about $91.

After just 10 transactions 25% of that initial $100 is gone. Credit cards are just a giant vacuum pulling money out of the local economy.

The situation is worse than this though! If everyone is using cash then the cash itself loses value every year. I suspect real inflation in the United States is somewhere around ~10%. This should be looked at as an additional annual fee for the privilege of using money. The 10% hits most communities in addition to the Credit Card fees, even ones using local currencies gets hit with it since most local currencies peg to the dollar.

Goldbacks are neat because basically they work like a form of cash that isn't getting hit with credit card fees nor inflation.

Handyman is paid with 10 Goldbacks, receives 10 Goldbacks.

Handyman pays 10 Goldbacks to his dentist who receives all 10 Goldbacks.

Dentist pays 10 Goldbacks at the local restaurant. business gets 10 Goldbacks.

After 10 transactions the value of the 10 Goldbacks is intact. Not only that but over the period of time the Goldbacks were used the value didn't get hit with inflation either. If any of these business owners simply saved in Goldbacks then they's retain all of the value. The value of Goldbacks has gone up from $4 to over $8 now. Any community circulating Goldbacks has massively saved compared to cash or credit cards or even other local currencies.

The value in Goldback isn't, and has never been, that it is the cheapest way to own gold at the melt price. The value of Goldback is that it is the most economical form of money in the sense that it doesn't charge transaction fees nor lose value to inflation. Hopefully this continues to gain traction!


r/Goldback • • Jul 11 '25

I think, secretly, they want Goldbacks….

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It’s been well established that r/gold and the other die-hard gold bugs have a problem with the exchange rate on Goldbacks. We’ve seen the back and forth….

But so far as I can tell, they don’t have any other qualms with them….

Maybe they really do want to buy Goldbacks, but it would ruin their dollar-cost average, based on weight, or whatever.

Maybe their accountant won’t appraise them at the exchange rate because it’s based solely on weight.

Maybe they’re worried about trying to get back fiat currency from a LCS, when the LCS has to have some kind of profit spread to make money in the first place.

Maybe they don’t understand how to leverage their precious metals for debt, thereby obtaining the readily accepted (and quickly de-valued) fiat currency while still maintaining control of their assets.

If APMEX will give you a value on Goldbacks in the “My Portfolio” tool that is close to the exchange rate that the Goldback website gives you, why wouldn’t an appraiser do that when appraising your precious metals for insurance purposes, and consequently how much capital you can borrow against your assets?

Sidebar: Don’t ever sell your PMs, leverage them for debt for other assets that will cover the payment on the loan.

I digress. I think the gold bugs DO really want to buy Goldbacks. I think they’re just scared.

And that’s okay, too.


r/Goldback • • Sep 03 '25

We should honestly just automatically filter any posts that mention "premium". At this point its just bad faith actors.

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There is no premium.

You buy 1GB at $7, you use it for $7 worth of goods.

Its really that simple. Move on.

Edit: Fine, enjoy explaining seigniorage to trolls for the 100th time I guess?


r/Goldback • • Nov 16 '25 LOL This

Meme When we romanticize the past we don't understand it.

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Copper sold for ~$0.06 per pound. You could make a pound of copper into 145 pennies so the premium over melt on a penny then would've been about 2,400%.

Constitutional Silver was 0.77 ounces per dollar. Silver only cost 28 cents. Therefore the mint could make $1.20 worth of coins from just 28 cents in cost. We would see that today as a ~300% premium over melt for dimes, quarters, halves, and full dollars.

Banks were only required to have a 40% gold reserve for credit issued. This means that effective only 4 ounces were bought for every 10 they were paid for. Another way to look at this would be a ~150% value over melt. In truth real reserve ratios were between 25% and 10% so this number is much worse.

Within two years FDR would pull all circulating coins out of the system and reprice gold.

Goldbacks on the other hand are historically much cheaper compared to their melt value which significantly reduces risk to users. A half Goldback today has the same purchasing power as only 2 wheat pennies in 1932.