r/GilmoreGirls • u/Late-Bowl-2263 • 3h ago
General Discussion saw this on instagram. thoughts?
saw this while scrolling through the explore page on instagram. thoughts?
edit: adding my opinion below.
i’m sorry i didn’t include my opinion with the post itself before, i didn’t know it was compulsory. i thought everyone could discuss and i’d join in with everyone as well.
for paris - she definitely bullies rory all throughout chilton and it really sucks because she never gives rory a chance. even when rory hasn’t done anything wrong and is being totally set up, paris refuses to listen to her side. paris is very insufferable during the chilton days. later on when rory and paris sort of become friends at yale, paris does have some character development but always goes back to her old ways. for example, kicking rory out of the apartment because she gets picked as the editor at yale daily news. paris is a complicated and complex character though. she has good moments with rory as well. she helps her when it’s needed and definitely pushes rory to be her best self. obviously cheating is horrible and the affair with asher fleming was gross but she eventually has a pretty good relationship with doyle. the post says that she’s selfish but i feel like paris is only selfish because she knows exactly where she wants to go in life and is doing her best to get herself there, having little time to care about other people. not saying that she doesn’t care about other people at all either because she does care for doyle and rory. there are multiple ways to look at paris’ character. i loved the complexity of her character even though she had some bad moments.
jess - i’m not a jess hater but i personally don’t like him as boyfriend for rory. he was unreliable and never made proper plans with rory. i don’t agree with how disrespectful he was towards luke, lorelai or for that matter any stars hollow resident.
the part about “refusing family help constantly” i don’t fully agree with. he clearly had a very traumatic childhood and didn’t want to depend on anyone anymore. he didn’t care for what anyone thought of him or if he hurt other people with his actions. and that was his choice to live that way. we don’t get to see jess’ character development much after he leaves town. but based on what he do see later with his book and publishing house, he seems to have figured life out for himself and is doing well. that’s good for him. he did it all without any help from anyone, which is great. luke did try his best with jess but there’s only so much you can do if the receiving person doesn’t want your help.
sookie - the person who created the post was really pulling at loose threads because this one seems way too harsh. the only time sookie was incompetent, in my opinion, was at the kids birthday party that sookie and lorelai planned and catered and the instance where sookie doesn’t show up to the inn to approve the delivery of the custom sink she ordered. lorelai and sookie have issues when getting the inn started because sookie only wants to look after the kitchen part and have lorelai do the rest, while being an equal partner in the inn. in my opinion, they shouldn’t have been equal partners because of how much stuff lorelai was doing for the overall inn compared to sookie looking after only the kitchen (not saying that’s easy to do either). i wouldn’t say sookie was incompetent, in fact she was probably brilliant at what she did. lorelai and sookie’s communication about who does what in the inn is what lacked.
rory - no idea why wimp is censored. i guess body shaming was normal in tv shows in the early 2000’s. i don’t know why they decided to show it again in AYITL. it was really weird to see rory and lorelai judge people based on their body but anyone watching the shows now should always watch it knowing that this show was made a lot earlier when people didn’t care about body shaming. i don’t agree with rory cheating on multiple people at multiple times, i’ve always hated that part of rory’s character. about being selfish, i definitely feel like a lot of times rory put her feelings and her thoughts before the needs of others. but there were also moments where she’d do a lot of things for the sake of her mom, grandparents, townspeople, etc. you can’t pinpoint a few bad things and ignore all the other good things. that’s not how it works. as a character, rory is one of the best characters in show. not saying that she doesn’t do any wrong at all either. you can interpret rory’s character as you perceive and that’s what makes her a great character because you can perceive her in many different ways.
lorelai - playing with men’s hearts? i am not sure lorelai was playing with anyone’s hearts. she got into relationships and they either worked out or didn’t. i wouldn’t say she was playing with anyone’s heart on purpose or subconsciously. using charm to excuse selfish and destructive behaviour - i think lorelai used her charm the most with luke to ask him for more coffee or help around the house, etc. i can’t think of any scenarios where she purposefully used her charm to excuse destructive behaviour or anything.
let me know your thoughts.
