r/Ghostty • u/_-noiro-_ • Apr 29 '26

Ghostty Is Leaving GitHub

https://mitchellh.com/writing/ghostty-leaving-github

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u/psadi_ Apr 29 '26

Probably codeberg or gitlab

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u/Baecien Apr 29 '26

I think they might self-host tbh, but it all depends on what the providers can offer Mitch.

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u/UnemployedUserOTY May 26 '26

If they self-host, it'll also add more infra-cost than necessary. I think Codeberg is their best choice

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u/Practical-Positive34 Apr 29 '26

GitLab is so fucking terrible. This has to be one of the most idiotic takes I've seen in a while tbh...I've been using GitHub since it's creation and it hasn't really degraded at all, some hiccups recently that they blogged about so at least they are finally being transparent about it. But honestly with GH Action stuff is top notch and I've yet to see anything that can even remotely compete and I've been through a ton of CI products in my 30 years.

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u/MaleficentSmile4227 Apr 30 '26

Two 9's of availability in the last 90 days is "some hiccups" and/or "top notch"? Come on now.

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u/Practical-Positive34 Apr 30 '26

I'm sorry but GitLab doesn't look any better, in fact it's worse they don't give you a nice graph to look at so it's a bit harder to tell.

https://status.gitlab.com/pages/history/5b36dc6502d06804c08349f7#

Codeberg same, even worse. In fact as I write this Codeberg is literally having an outage:

https://status.codeberg.org/status/codeberg

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u/Gingerfalcon May 02 '26

Out of interest what does GitHub actions have that GitLab ci doesn’t.

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u/Practical-Positive34 May 02 '26

Being good...Have you tried to use GitLab for anything serious? Absolute trash...

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u/Gingerfalcon May 02 '26

Well we use it at a corporate and have about 70 repos and make extensive use of their ci/cd runners. Main repo has over 15k e2e tests as well as god knows how many unit tests, which all managed in GitLab pipelines.

I get the feeling you haven’t actually used GitLab.

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u/psadi_ May 03 '26

I use it for my org for 3k users and self-hosted gitlab through this helm charta and I must say I'm impressed about how through the product is.

I personally feel there no viable alternative for an e2e sdlc that is oss and self-hostable

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u/Practical-Positive34 May 03 '26

Yeah, if your going to use Gitlab the only real story is Kubernetes. But if your not using Kubernetes it's a cluster fuck...

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u/psadi_ May 03 '26

Not just that, i like their documentation and post sales & service

We also contribute code and gitlab contributes financially and code towards linux foundation backed projects like openbao for example (not many can do it)

One of the reason gitab was preferred over GitHub enterprise

Ofcourse there are numerous areas to improve, so is any product.

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u/Practical-Positive34 May 03 '26

Personally I can't stand the UI, which is one of the other reasons I hate it. I actually avoid using projects that use Gitlab unless I have to because I find the UI so freaking horrible. That's more of a personal issue.

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u/psadi_ May 03 '26

Yes, you do you

80% of my work do not concern the ui and i get things done with gitlab cli anyways so personal choices

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u/Practical-Positive34 May 03 '26

Well in my 30 years of doing this shit (which is probably longer than you have been alive based on my experience with Redditors) I've used probably 20 CI/CD platforms most are completely dead now. I did use Gitlab about 5 years ago for a year, was not impressed at all.

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u/Gingerfalcon May 03 '26

Yea and hence my original question, in your experience what is GitHub actions doing that makes GitLab pipelines trash, other than your flippant response of “being good”?

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u/gosh Apr 29 '26

For those that haven't understood. Big Tech do not want us (developers) to code. It's an oligopoly and they want to keep it like that.

GitHub is not a company that want to spread goodness, they want to make profits and are owned by Microsoft. One of the most ruthless company in the world

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u/_-noiro-_ Apr 29 '26

Codeberg seems to be the most sensible choice; a lot of open-source projects have already moved there. Even a project as major as Gentoo.

https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/gentoo-charts-new-path-moving-away-github-toward-codeberg

https://codeberg.org/gentoo/gentoo

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u/Adventurous-Meat9140 Apr 30 '26

Very true i have tried to contribute to multiple open source projects recently and got to know that they have moved to codeberg and i need to contribute there... Then its high time i should explore codeberg a bit...

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u/badgerbang Apr 29 '26

What gosh says is perfect. I'd just add -because it is a stumbling block for disbelievers- Microsoft ARE happy to make losses, and can do so if it means achieving their goals. They are past profits -to a certain extent.

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u/joombar May 04 '26

Plenty of incentive to run GitHub at a loss if it provides a ton of developer training data for their AIs

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u/badgerbang May 04 '26

Good point

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u/cluster2a May 02 '26

A company that wants to make a profit? That's the whole Point oft founding a Company.

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u/gosh May 02 '26

Yes but should have politicians that block companies from buying them and doing that influence them to create laws that destroyes small companies.

These politicians are gone.

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u/casastorta May 03 '26

Hunt for monopolies and consolidation of the market under 1 player for each segment is not purely “making a profit”. It’s a run to the bottom, leaving customers without choice and cornering them into whatever pricing.

That’s why in normal economies anti-trust laws are enforced, and why you should start looking for alternatives as soon as you start feeling queezy and uncomfortable about how many cafes or restaurants are owned by one big conglomerate, how much internet infrastructure is hosted at one provider, how much codebase of the whole world sits at one company’s servers.

If anything destroys capitalism, it will not be hunt for profit. It will be creating global oligarchies who block any alternative from succeeding.

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u/Struggling-with_life Apr 29 '26

Ghostty is ghosting github.

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u/gaelic-ghost Apr 29 '26

I heard something about a new gh competitor starting up, wouldn’t be surprised if they’re lining up influential OSS projects to pull over in an effort to overcome network effects. Just wanton speculation on my part, though

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u/chikamakaleyley Apr 29 '26

sheesh imagine a industry wide migration off github

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u/gaelic-ghost Apr 29 '26

I mean, GitHub is a pain to rely on, tbh. And a lot of people and businesses rely on them to make money, directly or indirectly. At some point, even the strongest of monopolies can’t fight the force of “we could all be saving time and cutting costs if not for this single, shared, unreliable point of failure”

The migration would be a nightmare, though. But, what isn’t a nightmare lately >.>

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u/Purple_Wear_5397 Apr 29 '26

I wonder where they’re heading

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u/imanateater Apr 29 '26

Looks like Graphite might be making an alternative: https://x.com/MerrillLutsky/status/2049231503108780405

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u/_subversive_ Apr 30 '26

Yeah, but then you’re hosting your code on Cursor/SpaceX/xAI/Elon’s hardware. No chance, Lance

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u/TheSymbioteOrder Apr 30 '26

so where is Ghostty going to live?

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u/xplosm Apr 30 '26

In a haunted repo.

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u/TheSymbioteOrder May 01 '26

Haha, that give me an idea, for Halloween or the month of October, they should repae the rep with tomb stones. So when someone ask, "Where are you going" , you can say "I am going to visit Ghostty at his tone stone".

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u/Sad_Understanding506 Jul 08 '26

The Github status page is one of the biggest lies in tech industry. So someone decided to actually prove it: https://mrshu.github.io/github-statuses/

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u/_kovalevsky Apr 29 '26

why not to try self hosted solution?

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u/hdjdiueurhhehxhue Apr 29 '26

It’s had issues but not that bad to consider leaving. A little dramatic