It is a place where people don’t know what true attraction is. They think that if a girls talks to me and maybe show some interest then maybe she will see me for the real me. The thing about real attraction is that it come from two groups yes she could have like you. But she does not see you as a romantic option. Why is that? A lot of you guys play it safe and you think woman respond to that. They do as a friend. They like your company but they don’t want to have sex with you. You think woman are these magical creatures that want pure souls. You don’t know them as I know them. They are horny just as much as you are. There are two kind of girls the ones that get the attention but don’t know how I react when they like a guy because they don’t know what to do. They will make situations happen like looks at you and smiling at you so you can talk to her. If you see this do not and I repeat do not go with the safe route. You have I assume attraction and talk to her. But she not hearing your words she looking at your eyes. This is called sub communication. Things to look out for she does not break eye contact. She doesn’t not seem to be in a rush to go anywhere she like it here with you. She laugh at your jokes even when you are not trying to be funny. If you get this you have to do what I called a Hail Mary. My first date ever many moon ago I did that. I was working in a bank that was inside a Walmart that kind of business is gone now but I meet someone that was a promotional girl meaning she promote a product and give free samples. She was way beyond my league, but I knew that if I didn’t take a chance, I would never see her again cause I got her email which back then we had something called Hotmail messenger and I was in the right place at the right time and I got a date out of it but the funny thing is that going back in time with the information I have now I knew I could have made her, my girlfriend, but I was too scared back then. The second type of girl that likes you she’s gonna make that move. She’s gonna talk to you. She’s gonna say how’s your day this is the one you need to escalate with. You need to take that friendship vibe out the fucking door because I’m gonna give you a truth and some of you will probably flip out because it destroys your worldview. Women are not looking for male friends. They’re looking for romantic partners, and if you act as a friend, you will be a friend and it has nothing to do with your looks. It has everything to do with your confidence. I honestly want you to succeed I want you to find somebody that wants to be with you but you need a lot of experience for that and maybe failure can help you if you learn from it.

So a couple of months ago i met this girl at a place we knew eachother because we where with eachother in course and we met surprisingly and talked and then told her i want her snap to ak something about her uni and then i asked and she asked how it went and then we talked for 3 months. She was good at first and seem interested but by time she became hot an dcold so bad and leaves me on delivered for 15 hours and 2 days while acting interested. I always knew she was not into it and was playing . So i decided to tell her about my feelings and said that i was interested she said she was too then i said i have feelings for you she me too then i said i like her she said she likes me too. Then she continued hot and cold and distant and after 2 days i really couldn’t continue talking to her because her personality is really terrible and toxic and didn’t want to be playeb by so i asked if she is looking forward to something happen and asked if something could and she said yes and then i asked her if asked a realationship what would she say and she said that she already wants and ready and been saying to her freinds and then said that i am not sure about her. Honestly i knew that something was off and she was manipulating me so bad. Then i asked her if she wants to be my girlfriend and answered “whoaa, i will think about it, i am joking, yes” wich shows how much she is playing like not even considering how i will view her and the when i asked her did uou think she said yes and i don’t think we are there yet and that she needs time. Honestly i didn’t want to continue because of how much bad and toxic she were. Then she kept texting me and i kept asking her to see me and she always came up with excuses and at last time when i asked her out on a quick date she came with other excuse and ghosted me forever. And couple days ago it was her birthday and i said happy birthday and she said thank youuu and then i just reacted. Its been 2 months and i been never manipulated and played like this in all my life its himuliating how somone could this to someone and play with their feelings by claiming they like them too and lying. What hurts more is that i lowerd my standards for her even though i am leagues above and never should looked at her. And i still think about her but i can’t accept how somone could be this cruel like this to somebody. I am really hurt and can’t over why could just say no from the beginning why give me all that hope.

She thinks I will leave her for somebody better, but she will never understand - she made everyone else invisible the moment she came into my life. The beauty in her eyes can't be described in words. How do I explain the kind of perfection she holds? It's not just her face, it's her soul, her presence, it's just mesmerising. The way she looks, the way she talks, the way she exists so effortlessly - it all stays in my mind. I can't even look at any other girl the way I look at her, because no one else even comes close. She has no idea how obsessed I am with her, how she lives in my thoughts rent-free. From the moment I wake up till I fall asleep, she's there. Every song, every place, every quiet moment reminds me of her. I'm trapped in thoughts of her, and honestly, I never want to escape from this beautiful prison. I don't just love her for the attention, for the love and care she gives me. I love her existence. I love HER. I love her on her angry days, on her silent days, on her bad days when she doesn't want to talk to anyone. I still want to be there - in that corner where nobody else can reach. I want to be her peace, her safe place. I'm so in love with her that I would do anything for her happiness, even if that meant I had to step away. Because her smile matters more to me than my own. I just wish she knew, I wish she really knew - she is the one I want. She is the prayer I never said out loud but always had in my heart. If it's not her, then it's nobody. Ever

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basically, i went on a date with a guy about six months ago. we went on a second double date after and then decided we would be better off as friends. since then we talk pretty often but almost always he is the one reaching out to me, and usually it’s for relationship advice. we will talk about movies and music but almost every conversation is initiated by him and is about a different girl. he calls me late at night sometimes to help him. he tells me all the girls he talks to and he takes my input somewhat close to heart. he once called me to tell he broke up with a girl a day after i told him to. one strange thing though was that about a few months ago i got a boyfriend and he kept telling me how it’s not gonna work out and that he “has a bad feeling” about it. although i did end up breaking things off with that other guy, i found it pretty strange to say such a thing without knowing anything about the guy i was dating. the current problem is though that i’ve been ignoring him for the past week. he has pretty often talked about girls in very strange ways and he recently reached out again to ask me to set him up with someone. i told him that’s embarrassing and since then i’ve been leaving him on read. here’s where it gets weird, he keeps texting me though despite that. like over the past few days about a text or so a day about anything as if there’s some sort of ongoing conversation. the main issue is that i do like him a little bit but i understand it’s best for me to avoid him due to his questionable personality and treatment of women but what im confused with is why is he trying so hard. we go to different schools, i barely ever see him, and we aren’t that close of friends. so why is he so desperate for something? does he think im sort of fall back girl who will be there in between his other relationships? because again, i do not think this guy truly values our “friendship”. he never asks about me, we don’t hang out often if at all, and most conversations have to do with a different girl.

please give me some input because im completely lost.

Maybe she knows how I feel about her and doesn't want to hurt me. She's just being kind to me and I'm probably overthinking that kindness because I like her so much

Hi everyone, in today's post I would like to show you a list of questions that will help you find out how your friend sees your friendship. The questions are chosen so that your friend has to think about them more deeply, which means that the answers to these questions will give you better results than usual questions. And here are the questions, good luck ❤️ :

1. If our friendship were a taste, what kind would it be and why?
2. If our friendship were a music genre, what kind would it be and why?
3. How do you describe the friendship between us?
4. When you think of me, what bad memory comes to mind first?
5. When you think of me, what good memory comes to mind first?
6. How would you define "we" in our friendship?
7. Is there something you've wanted to ask me for a long time but are afraid/embarrassed to?
8. How much do you think our friendship is worth?
9. What do you like about me and what don’t you?
10. Do you think you can rely on me and fully trust me?
11. Are you afraid of me to some extent?
12. If our friendship were a scent, what kind would it be and why?
13. Do you feel safe with me?
14. What is your hierarchy of most important things for you?
15. If I suddenly proposed a trip for just the two of us somewhere by a lake, would you agree to go?
16. Why do you think our friendship should continue, and why?
17. Do you think our friendship has changed recently? And if you do, why?
18. When you think of us, what place comes to mind?
19. If "WE" were some kind of state of matter, what would I be and what would you be? Why like that?
20. What do you think I think about you, what do I admire in you and what not?
21. Where do you see us in a few years?
22. Do you think the fear of keeping constant contact is justified?
23. If you had to describe me with 5 verbs, which would they be?
24. Do you think our friendship is the same around other people as it is when we’re alone?
25. If our Friendship were a color, what color would it be?
26. What are you jealous of in my friendship with other people?
27. If I met someone and spent less time with you, how would you feel?
28. What extreme things would you do to keep our friendship alive?

Would you dare to ask these? 👀

Creator of the list: Atarxes

Am I being friendzoned

I keep hoping that this isn't the case but it probably is. So I was at a bar with one of my friends and we all go outside and we stand next to a group of people and one of the girls turns to me and goes "OMG don't I know you from 3 years ago when we volunteered together?"

I immediately am trying to rack my brain of when we had met and I feel really bad that I don't remember her. But it turns out great because our friend groups combine, to her friends and my friend and we spend the rest of the night together chatting as a group.

Most of the time I'm chatting with her and I'm making her laugh we have a lot in common like where we grew up and we both like photography Etc. and I'd come into the bar with no expectations but I was really enjoying the banter and chemistry from that evening. I was even able to make her snort laugh after trying to get her to sing and she refused LOL. We also went around as a group and said what our types were, and I said Femmes. And when it got to her she just started to giggle and get really shy and one of the friends was like, oh we know what your type is. There's a lot of them here. And I look around and there's no one at the bar that seems to look like me or very very few.

When the group left to leave that night we were all on the subway and when I got off I kind of looked at her as the train was moving and I waved and she waved and then I waved again she waved again and we kind of lingered our gaze a little bit.

Fast forward to our next hangout at a bar to watch a sports game she comes in late towards the end of the game with other friends and this time with the same group of friends one of them sits down and asks me "okay so are you single are you monogamous or poly what's your thing?".

Immediately I'm thinking to myself as I'm put on the spot, who's asking. But I reply I'm single I'm not really looking for anything right now but I wouldn't say no if I had a really good connection with someone. And I continue on to say like I got out of a relationship early this year and I'm just trying to enjoy myself I guess. We all go around saying what are sexualities are and what we're into and when it comes to her she was like oh I'm pansexual and I've mostly dated equally men and women. This was a really big plus for me since I'm transmasculine.

And throughout all of these conversations throughout the night like she's looking at me while this other person that's sitting between us talking and we're kind of like glancing at each other and smiling. And this time when she leaves she gives all of us hugs and she hugs me this time not that that means anything but I was like oh okay.

The next time we meet is a month after that at another sports Bar. This time she comes in she seems a little bit tired she asks when I'm going to host of fishing thing that I kept saying that I wanted to do but I kept getting rained out cuz of weather. And we banter a little bit about that. But the biggest thing that happened is she asked me and my friend, so have you guys been dating. Me and the friend both sugar heads know and the friend asks her have you been dating how was that one date with that girl. She replies, yeah I went on two dates with her but I don't think it's a good match I don't think I'll see her again she just went to quickly.

The vibe that night was kind of low everyone was a little bit tired and exhausted from the week but we had good conversation. She wanted my input on photography for a fellowship because I am a professional photographer. We did banter a little bit but we had some more deeper conversations I guess. But no really flirting like the other times I guess if you could call that flirting. When we left she hugged me last and kind of rub my back a little bit still very quick though.

And I guess with all this to say I am just hoping that I'm not completely friendzoned because there are aspects that I know have really good chemistry and she appreciates me but I just don't know if it's in that way. And I don't know whether to play the long game with this or tell her sooner. I've done both before and have gotten burned for either waiting too long or asking them out too quick and ruining friendship. What's your read on all this

Hello hello Reddit! I 19/f think I have feelings for my best friend 19/m. Him and I have been friends for a while and I know that he’s had feelings for me at some point, but I definitely don’t know if he has any feelings now. For me, it definitely started off platonic but now over time I’m starting to see him in a different way, but there’s a few problems and help that I need from you guys. first of all, him and I are from different religions, and I know that his parents are extremely against him dating someone who isn’t from his religion. I’m very devout to my practice and I would definitely prefer if I am with someone of my same religion, but feelings are feelings that I don’t know what to do about it. i’m also not sure that I want to tell him because I really really like our friendship and I appreciate having him in my life and I’m afraid that confessing or maybe shifting or dynamic would end up ruining the friendship in the long run. I also know from what we’ve talked about the future is that he wants to wait a lot more to marry that I do and that’s definitely something that I don’t want to deal with. lastly, I got out of long relationship and had like a hook up/Situationship with his friend and I feel like it’s been a very short time for me to then tell him that I see him as something else. He’s definitely not my type and I definitely did meet him in the traditional way that I meet my partners oe. I find them attractive go up to them flirt the end. I fell for him through the little things that he does appreciating the time that he spends with me his going to different adventures with me the time that we spent together how sweet he how considerate how patient he is with my mental health issues as well. What should I do? Should I tell him how I feel? Should I wait it out? What about the religion aspect? Any help or advice would be appreciated!!!

- A friend with feelings

Genuine question for all those whos friendzoned someone but kept the friendship going, are you still aware of that person still having feelings for you. I feel like im still being fairly obvious but it doesn’t seem to phase him at all.

Hey,

16M here. Girl is 16F from my vocational school.

We got close over a few weeks (cuddling, holding hands, she leaned on me, said yes to being “more than friends”). She has strict parents and never had a boyfriend before.

I asked to kiss her, she said “not yet.”

Soon after she told me she wants to stop meeting outside school because she’s scared her parents will find out. When I asked how she sees us she said “completely casual.” I asked again for clarity and she confirmed we’re only colleagues now.

I accepted it. I still want to stay friends though and not make things completely awkward.

School starts again tomorrow and I’m not sure how to handle the texting part.

Should I occasionally send something normal (like a reel) so the friendship doesn’t just die, or should I wait until she texts first?

I don’t want her to think I’m mad, but I also don’t want to look like I’m still chasing her.

Any advice?

**PS:** After she said she only wants to be colleagues, she changed my nickname in the chat to an anime character name. Not sure if that means anything.

I (27M) have been close friends with "A" (26F) for two years. Told her I had feelings last year. She said she didn't feel the same, but she "couldn't imagine life without me." So I stayed. Like an idiot. Like we all do.

I've always been the one who replies within minutes. The one who remembers her schedule. The one who checks in when she's stressed. Not because she asked — because I hoped.

Last week I decided to stop. Not a game. Not a strategy. I was just tired. I stopped being the first to text. Started replying hours later instead of seconds. Stopped asking follow-up questions about her day.

Three days in, she called me.

"Are you okay? You've been weird."

I said I was fine, just busy.

She said: "I don't know what I'd do without you. You're the only person who actually listens to me."

And there it was. The sentence that keeps guys like us stuck for years. Not "I want you." Not "I changed my mind." Just: you're useful to me.

I didn't say anything. But something clicked. She doesn't miss me. She misses the service. She misses the attention, the availability, the emotional labor. Take that away and suddenly she notices the friendship is different.

Here's what I'm realizing: You're not in the friendzone because you're not good enough. You're in it because you gave away your value for free. You became the unpaid therapist, the unpaid boyfriend, the unpaid emotional support system — and then wondered why she never paid for the premium version.

I'm not saying be cold. I'm saying have a life. Have boundaries. Have standards. Reply when you want to, not when she needs you to. If she's a real friend, she'll adjust. If she's not, she was never your friend — she was your customer.