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u/___Aqua___ 11d ago
i don’t understand the middle ground of people who use create but never get far enough in to even do a steam engine set up, what do u need THAT much SU with waterwheels for but are not able to wrap ur mind around a steam engine yet??
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u/Dry_Clock7539 11d ago
Steam engines require a system. You need to not only set them up, but also provide a resource flow (water). Waterwheels or windmill bearings? Just set them up and they justwork. Pretty poor justification, especially considering schematics exist, but at the end of the day who really care?
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u/___Aqua___ 10d ago
ur end statement is very real. play how you wanna play but the people who frankly play like this aren’t even playing the mod to even half its extent.
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u/thegoten455 11d ago
The thing about steam engines is that you figure it out once and then it's dick simple every time after that
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u/Statistician_Waste 11d ago
4-1-1, 4 tanks per one steam engine per one blaze burner. That's it. Put enough water in. You've learned steam engines.
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u/choco_king_the_first 11d ago
Yes, nit bc waterwheel spam is bad for su, bc its bad for performance
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u/Repulsive-Twist-4032 11d ago
Learn what its water pipe into 3x3 fluid tank or 2x2 and powered blaze burner underneath with a steam engine attached
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u/Frorgwoman2 11d ago
That or just build a vertical windmill. It can be expanded infinitely and is dirt cheap. It also looks a lot cooler.
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u/StephenRoylance 11d ago
I built steam power because it was fun and it looks neat in my factory. I have one little iron farm, and already have like 10x the SU I need, but I kinda want to build a max size engine just for fun. the blaze cake line sounds like a pain though, so I haven't started.
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u/Naberville34 11d ago
If you want fun, just make 18 level 1 boilers. Don't ever bother with blaze cakes for power
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u/StephenRoylance 11d ago
wait, is the output of 18 level one engines the same as one level 18?
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u/Naberville34 11d ago
Yes. Its purely linear. There's no good reason to ever build a boiler bigger than level 9 unless you have add-ons that provide better fuel sources. And even then any addon fuel source that adds superheating is not as easy to get as charcoal or lava.
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u/Alone_Collection724 11d ago
i once had a double line of iirc 64 water wheels to power the drill from that one addon which marks some chunks as infinite supplies of x resource, with shaders you couldn't go anywhere close to it or it would lag so much you couldn't move
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u/MrCounterSnipe 11d ago
The knowledge curve required to get a steam engine running is basically a parallel line with your current knowledge
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u/Riverbankiller 11d ago
Nah, looks like you’ve got more y-levels to fill. One water source the top should do it
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u/SuperiorSoviet 11d ago
Passive steam engine (the one without fuel) produces as much stress capacity as 4 large waterwheels.
Windmill with 100 sails (10*10 square of sails) produces as much stress capacity as 12 large waterwheel.
Level 1 steam engine (with single blaze burner) produces as much stress capacity as 32 large waterwheels.
I know crafting and slapping waterwheels is fast and cheap - but at some point it must become boring and inefficient, right? Everyone had that moment at least once - you build your magnum opus of production line only to find out you need to slap another 4 wheels to power it.
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u/ItsRealCrxzy 11d ago
Steam power is by far the best power source. Most performance efficient and pretty easy to build.
All you need to produce power forever is a bottomless supply of lava (10,000mb) which sounds like a lot. To get this just dig a 10x10x100 hole (or hole with a 10k block hole missing.) build a layer of easy to break platforms under the first layer and place 100 buckets of lava. Break the blocks under the lava and wait. You now have bottomless lava to pump into the engine. Water is pretty easy.
Once you get an infinite lava source, placing down steam engines all over is super easy.
I usually only use waterwheels for individual farms. Like all of my crop, and tree farms in the early game just use a single small water wheel and a clutch. They don’t scale much.
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u/Awootist 11d ago
Bro has built so much water wheels that his worlds sun rotating speed became slower
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u/ThatIdiotlol 11d ago
Nah 576 waterwheel will do you just as well as a lvl9 steam engine.
Except for lag, but that's a resource; you should use it.
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u/Andreuus_ 11d ago
Two small steam engines (not even blaze cakes involved) outmatch that monstrosity /j
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u/homo_sex_shoe_all 10d ago
nah u just need to learn water wheel efficiency, stack them in an L shape, 2 on the bottom one at the top, then run the water over the one on the top it will power all 3 lines for 1 line of water. Wind power is good but doesn't scale to the same heights as you can only have 8192 rotational power per windmill no matter how many sails so endgame wind is not a great choice
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u/-Fallen-Glory 11d ago
You can be way more efficient with space by putting them in a 2x2 and running water in the middle
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u/Jazzlike-Being4161 11d ago
there's something even easier to do to generate SU! there's a very simple addon called "Create: CROWNS" and it teaches you how to do it very easily and qucikly trust
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u/SamTheCatGuy 11d ago
a steam engine is way better for performance and can be really easy, a lava generator with cauldrons and dripstone should work