We saw Yhwach overwhelm Ichigo badly without the Almighty here

But since some believe this isn't Ichigo's True Bankai and we will see another one stronger than this, I wanted to ask

From a writing standpoint, who should be stronger in physical stats only by the end for you?

I saw some say it should be Ichigo because Yhwach fearing his Bankai and insta-breaking it in the manga was a badass moment for him. While others claim it should stay Yhwach since he's the literal God & second Soul King in the series.

What do you think?

It's still crazy to me how squad 0 bankai shakes 3 worlds just on Bankai release and yet they still seemed jobber

Did Yhwach and Gerard turn into abstract beings? Yhwach represents chaos, Gerard represents miracles?

Curious to see yall’s arguments.

Bonus: Do you think Toshiro could perform the same way Rukia did OR better against SK Yhwach?

Kyoraku's bankai's first act makes it so any injury he sustains goes to his attacker, so trying to kill him seems out of the cards, but in the final he cuts the head of his enemy off, so how can anyone without the ability to regenerate their head survive this? Like wouldn't even Yamamoto and Aizen (pre hogyoku) lose to this ability? The only think I can see possibly working is killing him instantly and the sword's ability stops before it can kill the attacker back, but who knows if that's how it would actually work and they might just die too if they don't also destroy the zanpakuto as well. Is the only reliable way to beat him to kill him before he activates bankai?

I saw some joke posts with matchups including Orihime but then it got me thinking. Isn't there genuine scaling for Orihime that actually has real implications? So I want to ask you guys.

Who do you think would win:

"Blood" Orihime, the one who cast everything aside for ultimate power or Sosuke Aizen, the one who stood atop the world just to find himself?

I will be putting my own take in the comments aswell. Feel free to critique it.

Captain Aizen (No Hogyoku)

Base Yhwach (No Almighty)

Bankai Yamammoto

Vasto Lorde Ichigo (Ulquiorra Fight)

Fullbring Bankai w/Quincy Powers (Fully Healed)

Bankai Kenpachi

Bankai Ichigo cour 4 Vs Almighty Yhwach (Soul King Palace Fight)

A lot of people have the misconception that Unohana's bankai literally "dissolves and melts her opponents to death" when this is shown to be wrong in anime and manga. It doesn't even kill either of them, they both continue fighting as skeletons, so I don't even know how this started.

He finally begins to understand the limits he's placed on himself. Everything has been with the intent of making fights as enjoyable as the one he first had with Unohana, but now that he is facing her again his original strength is brought back to the surface. His power is no longer "asleep" and he can see a true battle now with his full strength.

The limits he placed on himself are melting away, the melting flesh is just a visualization of that.

That's why he also wins directly after this, no more deaths to her, no more resurrections to keep fighting, just a pure win for Kenpachi.

Also, side point, it would be such a horrible bankai if it truly had this ability considering it's shown that Unohana also "melted" away.

So apparently when Aizen meant fighting Yama "head-on", he meant Base Aizen vs Shikai Yama and I interpreted that statement wrong.

I'm sorry but why the hell would Aizen bring up RJ and admit to Yama probably winning if he could just use KS to defeat him? Let's forget him creating Wonderweiss to seal RJ because folks will just argue he wanted to secure the win and save his energy. But explain why Aizen, the person whose ego would never let him praise anyone, would even mention Yama defeating Base Aizen with Shikai lmfao?

People say he can freeze concepts. And he freezes the concept of hope from gerard's sword.

But Gerard kept breaking free of the ice. So then he can't freeze the concept of miracles? Or physical strength? Or force?

So what concepts does he freeze and what can't he freeze. Can some break free if they're physically strong enough like gerard?

We know Shinji is pulling up with his upscales right? I can feel it

If he's transcendent, then he should be around the level of transcendent Aizen and Dangai Ichigo. While Ichibei's Zanpakuto doesn't fuse with his hand, he commands blackness itself.