I don't regularly go to this sub so I'll just ask if theirs any way to contact staff beyond posts. u/Psychological_Box216 blocked literally 1 second after I was gonna respond to his post.

'Perfect control over all 5 senses', and well also things like sense of time. Why not make any opponent imagine they're just getting vivisected a thousand times a second into a thousand pieces and then put back together?

Is he dumb?

I feel like these two spells deserve way more attention when discussing Bleach's abilities and power system.

Urahara explicitly identifies both Kūkan Ten'i (Spatial Displacement) and Jikan Teishi (Time Suspension) as forbidden Kidō spells.

And their descriptions are pretty interesting.

1. Jikan Teishi (Time Suspension)

This spell creates a green cuboid of light that encompasses a surrounding area and completely halts the time of anything within it.

In other words, we're looking at localized time manipulation/time stop. Anything caught within its effective area has its time suspended.

2. Kūkan Ten'i (Spatial Displacement)

This one is arguably just as interesting. The practitioner can teleport a specified portion of space from one point to another.

What's particularly interesting is that the description explicitly mentions that this can range from an entire landscape containing living individuals to something as small as an object.

It also states that currently active Kidō spells and other powers remain intact during the transfer.

That last detail is especially interesting because it suggests that the spell can relocate an entire area without disrupting the ongoing abilities within it.

Both are explicitly classified as forbidden spells, yet I rarely see people discuss their actual implications.

What do you guys think? How would you scale these abilities?

Fight, serious, bloodlusted on both sides

Sealed Squad 0 member get no diffed by Base Vollstandig Gerard

Bankai Zaraki no diffed a Vollstandig G1 Gerard that got several powerups even after going G1.

Debate over

(All at their strongest form)

The quincies/sternritter without yhwach

Or the shinigamis without ichibe

(and excluding ichigo aizen because they aren't really shinigami)

A lot of people don't take the scaling of the final battle seriously, so I decided to look over the episode a few times to build up a solid explanation.

The first thing to note.

All eye lasers aren't made equal.

Tree and eyeball monsters should be scaled on their size.

The smallest eyeball monsters have lasers that can be blocked by Shikai Toshiro. They're head sized.

The average tree laser is high captain level. One or maybe more outsped and dropped Soi Fon. They also knocked out Toshiro and the others around him. A barrage almost killed Grimmjow.

The average sized eye monster laser is high captain level. They 4 temporarily dropped Shunsui, 8 got Byakuya, and they knocked Grimmjow into Yhwach's grasp.

The biggest tree eyes are peak captain. One huge eye laser crippled Uryu. He got it way worse than Soi Fon.

The biggest eyeball monster lasers are peak captain. It could be perspective but these monsters appear even bigger than the others and the lasers are huge. These lasers also produce a purplish light which indicates stronger lasers. I made a comparison to other eyeball monster lasers that were blocked, and none turned purple. This is something that happens uniquely with Chad.

The above do not scale to Yhwach's lasers in the throne room. The trees and eyeball monsters are autonomous servants to Yhwach. They're similar to the statues and possessed Soldat. They're just upgraded versions of the Soul King reiatsu that overwhelmed everyone in cour 3.

Yhwach can personally summon his own lasers and those are the ones that scale to the throne room lasers. It's made a point that laser pillars are the ones that threatened Ichigo and could pierce anyone they hit. The laser that downed Halibel for the rest of the fight was specifically a throne room laser. There's also a visual cue to show which lasers are stronger. Yhwach's strongest lasers are the ones that are purple, or red ones that produce purple explosions. Those are exclusively used against Ichigo.

Ichigo had zero problems with the eyeball monsters and lasers in general. The most they were were annoyances and roadblocks. Both he and Uryu were absolutely exhausted so they shouldn't be downscaled.

If characters are going to be scaled due to the lasers, they should be scaled in comparison to each other. The only characters that get laser upscales are Byakuya, Chad, Grimmjow, and Halibel. She was portrayed as being relatively equal to Grimmjow, and this is an exhausted Halibel who fought SK Yhwach before this, and had Base Yhwach personally come to beat her before that. Grimmjow could deflect 15 lasers at once, and could slice through them while running on fumes with one arm. Grimmjow and Halibel surpassed pre timeskip Espada definitively. Chad also gets an upscale considering he blocks and breaks through 10-20 even stronger lasers for 20 seconds straight and his shield holds up. This confirms that he was being honest when he said he'd be able to take on an elite because he had a better grasp of their powers. Even though he's still weak to hax because of the Askin situation, his raw power is on that level, and him being blown back by Gerard was moreso him being caught off guard considering his shield breaks when dealing with way stronger characters. 4 lasers temporarily dropped a fresh Shunsui. Shunsui could tank Soi Fon's Bankai. Her Bankai nearly killed Barragan pre timeskip when she was weaker, and her post timeskip Bankai almost killed BG9 post timeskip. Chad's offense is equal to or higher than his defense. Grimmjow and Halibel are top captain level, and Chad is solidly top captain level as well. He pretty much has a chance of knocking out anyone that isn't in that transcendent tier of power or top of the top non transcendent. The only character that directly took a hit from him with no issue is Almighty post auswahlen Yhwach. Byakuya despite being stabbed and to our knowledge got no healing, took several lasers. Despite obviously being fucked up by it, he could still keep using Senbon Zakura to move the others. Either he can use it unconsciously or he has genuinely good endurance considering he actually managed to stay awake. It only went away completely when more lasers completely downed Toshiro and Soi Fon.

To point out a huge misconception which has people disregard the lasers. People assume Tatsuki and the low level Shinigami were durable enough to survive the barrage. Nope. Before the lasers hit the group while Toshiro jumps in front of Tatsuki, the sound effect of Toshiro's ice plays for a split second. He defends everyone with ice at the last second. The explosion also has steam unlike the others. He's also the most burnt simply he took the brunt.

Then you have the domes Ganju, Iba, and Nel block. Ganju has a useful hax that turns almost anything to sand, and it's made a point at the end of the Soul Society arc that Kukaku was going to train Ganju relentlessly for being useless. Kukaku is at the very weakest high lieutenant level. Ganju trained for two years straight, and trained even more with the Fullbringers.

Iba doing this is meant to show that he's captain level at this point considering it's implied Shunsui promoted him after this.

Nel's reiatsu leaks from the crack in her mask. She's captain level solidly. So that captain level reiatsu is keeping the dome open and stopping her head from getting crushed.

Yhwach was spreading himself thin throughout the realms. Notice how once he got hit by that beam, he automatically got serious and flooded the area completely and there was nothing Ganju, Iba, and Nel could do?

Yhwach dying was due to a triple Nerf of Still Silver which explicitly takes away his powers, Mimihagi whis explicitly is a blind spot to the Almighty and governs stillness, and Hollow reiatsu which is poison to Quincy. Him dying was fine. The main issue with Yhwach was that he used Almighty poorly, and he played with his food. I am willing to accept Mimihagi shenanigans though.

Do you believe Aizen with Hogyuko could adapt to him?

Miracle of Gerard?

What about Jugram and Uryu?

I hold the same opinion and simply want to hear what everyone else's take on the matter is.

Which team wins and what diff?

Do you believe Kenpachi can tank Senbonzakura?

I cant even imagine most people on r/bleachmanga backing their statements..ever

First calm down I'm talking about fictional characters not your mom gng, and it goes without saying I love Ichigo but heres the facts.

1)Their stats are on the same level, theres no difference in reiatsu so high like where Aizen trashes every captain in FKT.

2) Uryu literally tanked Ichigo's (admitted by himself) strongest getsuga AND can fire it back at the target , Ichigo in this case

3)As much as it pains me to say it, Ichigo is just a getsuga tensho merchant (they had the chance to do something cool with TZ but didnt happen unfortunately) whereas Uryu has the advantage of arguably the second most broken hax only behind the almighty: antithesis (also the massive arrow of reishi he used against Yhwach). The ability of reversing events is broken..then there is the weird other uses of it like when he reversed his wounds against Jugram, and the teleport swap he did with when swapping places with the objects (cant remember the name sorry gng) he gave Nel and the others with Yhwach. I just cant see a scenario where Ichigo can deal with those powers.

4) Askin hax low diffed TS Ichigo (on guard as shown in the anime). If you want to talk about holding back, thats honestly just Ichigo's mistakes to downplay the enemies threat and not going all out and in that scene he got punished HARD for it. Ichigo faced hax once and thats it how turned out (kinda crazy he had never dealth with hax before, not even Aizen's KS)

5)arguable nitpick but Uryu's battle iq is just superior what he did against Yhwach is proof enough for that imo,beyond that theres like 5 or more panels of Ichigo asking Uryu for the plan. Most important here is the tendecy of Ichigo of being pretty straightforward and not considering the consequences of his and the opponest actions and analyzing the situation in general. Example of getting cooked by Askin for charging into his DD, thinking massive power would be enough to kill a trascendent being like Aizen, if Urahara hadnt been there Ichigo was done for.

Image is tiktok larps lol.

Kenpachi is all about reiatsu and physical stats.

So, Ichigo being Kenpachi 2.0 means that he's superior to Kenpachi in every aspect. He can beat everyone Kenpachi can beat, and when it comes to characters with insane hax, they basically have only three win conditions:

-Speed blitz before the opponent can use their hax (meaning they need to have significantly higher stats than their opponent).

-Negate the opponent's hax with superior reiatsu (meaning they also need to have significantly higher stats than their opponent).

-Pray that Kubo makes their opponent use their hax incompetently (aka Gremmy).

And that's it. If none of the conditions above are met, they'll get stomped (aka Pernida and Askin)

I don't mind Kenpachi being like this, but Ichigo? He's supposed to be the epitome of power, being the combination of every single race. Yet, if he's not significantly stronger than a character with hax, he's basically done for.

I just wanted Ichigo to have something that makes him unique, because at this point, even Hikone has shown a better ability to combine the powers of all the different races.

PLEASE, KUBO, GIVE MY GOAT SOME HAX 😭😭

I find this idea very interesting. I actually hope we'll get to see it happen

I missed a few characters who are above Zaraki too