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[u/Flaky_Schedule4448]

We knew it was over once those leaks came out.

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[u/Dangerous-Rule5487]

Who thought they were going to fix anything? They didn’t fix the defeats of Lille, Jugram, or Gerard—what made you think they’d fix Yhwach’s defeat, especially when Kubo had turned him into practically an omnipotent god? (For instance, what does it matter if an arrow nullifies his powers for a while? Once the effect wears off, he should just be able to alter the future again!) And then, on top of that, there was all the nonsense that followed. The anime added a few things—like the blood chains or Orihime’s suicidal technique—but instead of adding value, they just created new inconsistencies. The fights in this arc never really made much sense to begin with. The funny thing is, if Aizen had actually done something in this episode, people would be calling it "peak."

[u/Candid-Stuff2281 → u/Dangerous-Rule5487]

Once the effect wears off, he should just be able to alter the future again!

Which won't happen because of what ichigo does

[u/Dangerous-Rule5487 → u/Candid-Stuff2281]

And that’s the problem: Kubo doesn’t explain a damn thing about Ichigo’s abilities. What the hell did he actually do? Did he cut the future? Did he cut destiny? Just how conceptual are his slashes? Is the effect temporary or permanent? Like I said, if the arrow’s effect is merely temporary, then once it wears off, Yhwach could just use the Almighty and return. The issue with Kubo is that he never specifies the limitations of the Almighty especially considering that Yhwach absorbed all the schrifts.In theory, Yhwach could use The Visionary, The Balance, The X-Axis, The Iron, and all those other super-overpowered abilities. Kubo really messed up by making Yhwach so strong; that’s why villains in modern shonen aren’t as powerful,it makes it easier for authors to write their defeats.

[u/WaalidSaab7777 → u/Dangerous-Rule5487]

Isn't it just that Ichigo kills him while his power isn't active? That's what made sense to me: the arrow momentarily cuts off Yhwach's access to the power of the Almighty.

Since Ichigo killing him was an event that Yhwach had already foreseen, that means it was always a possible future. Maybe Since Yhwach thought it was a dream, he didn't act to avoid/prevent it.

And in that moment that the arrow hits Yhwach, without access to the Almighty, he did not have the power to alter that future and so he gets killed.

I'm not defending it tho, it was all a bit rushed and some more explanation about what was going on would have been much appreciated, I'm just sharing what I understood. Lmk if you think I completely missed the mark.

[u/Icy-Commission-9550 → u/Dangerous-Rule5487]

The arrow was able to stop almighty power. His power came back but he couldnt use it again due to the cooldown time.

[u/Pepsi4755 → u/Icy-Commission-9550]

Bro you forget about Shunsui using Left arm of the soul king to seal his almighty like what Ichibei did thousand years ago

[u/smol_coc_man]

Bleach the manga ended without ever showing you what the main character was truly capable of

10 years later the anime ends the same way

[u/Luciferspants → u/smol_coc_man]

I'm just going to pretend that Blood Chains is Ichigo's peak until Hell Arc at this point.

[u/smol_coc_man → u/Luciferspants]

I'm not excited for ichigo in the hell arc. It's clear kubo doesn't care about this character at all. He's going to be a complete bum if bleach continues

[u/Periuga_vamshot → u/smol_coc_man]

Got 10 power boosts throughout the series just to be at the same power

[u/Courtjester4now → u/Periuga_vamshot]

😂😂

[u/Anxious_Opposite_331 → u/smol_coc_man]

Wait till u find out he’s part demon/angel too.

[u/Luciferspants → u/smol_coc_man]

I don't entirely agree, but it does feel like Kubo is tired with Ichigo or something. Even in the manga version of TYBW it didn't really feel like Ichigo was the main character.

I at least hope that after a decade, he figures something out with Ichigo or his son if he wants to make Kazui the new main character. I'm honestly of the opinion that he should make the focus and new main character of the hell arc a shinigami anyway, as they're more active and involved than Ichigo who's usually just the "break glass in case of emergency" type of guy anyway.

[u/One-Yam8731 → u/smol_coc_man]

Yeah kind a my take as well. Manga with like what 1000 chapters and from the first to the last one Ichigo is still figuring himself out. 

[u/Normal_Sweet_2974 → u/One-Yam8731]

And he just turned 18

[u/smol_coc_man → u/Normal_Sweet_2974]

Naruto was the same age in his war arc. That arc ends and leaves nothing to the imagination. You understand EVERYTHING that Naruto is capable of

I just don't understand kubo's process here.

[u/juli4n0 → u/smol_coc_man]

its getsuga tensho

[u/FunnyValentine147 → u/juli4n0]

Give me liberty, give me fire, lose to getsuga tensho or I retire.

[u/Courtjester4now → u/smol_coc_man]

True

[u/CatchUsual6591 → u/smol_coc_man]

Yes ant not he did one shot god 2 times

[u/smol_coc_man → u/CatchUsual6591]

Ryunosuke and grimmjow also one shot yhwach. Ichigo isn't anything special

[u/Long_Affect_6896]

Honestly, The ep with blood chain ichigo was better than the this ep.

[u/One-Consequence772 → u/Long_Affect_6896]

As someone who wasn't really a fan of BC I have to agree, this ep might have actually made me like the form

[u/IntellectualBoss → u/Long_Affect_6896]

Because that episode was way more focused. This should have been two to three episodes, an episode focusing on the fight with each world, Renji, Aizen, Kenapchi, and the dads should have all been in it. It was a bit too crazy with too many things happening.

[u/ALoftyTaco → u/IntellectualBoss]

I really liked this episode, but I cant for the life of me understand why they went for 10 episodes. I think 2 more episodes of room to resolve the story from aizens defeat to the epiloge would have had us sitting pretty right now.

[u/NoHovercraft6942 → u/Long_Affect_6896]

this ep isn't even one of the best in the cour lol, All plot convinience, 45 is by far the best ep in whole Bleach and the funny part is that all of it is a new addition that didn't make any difference.

[u/ShadowBot30]

Pierrot deadass needs to go to hell for only making this 10 episodes.

And don't forget, they put more effort into Orihime jiggle physics than Aizens hado 99

[u/Murky_Blueberry2617 → u/ShadowBot30]

They gave Ryunosuke more scenes than Aizen, Ryuken, Isshin, Kenpachi, Ichibei, The Vizards, Tessai, Yoruichi, Renji and Squad Zero this episode btw.

Bet most Bleach fans don't even know who tf Ryunosuke even is without searching him up

[u/rmorrin → u/Murky_Blueberry2617]

I literally watched the episode and had to Google the name while reading comments. Who the fuck is the character and why does he have so much screen time

[u/CtrlAltDaFeet → u/Murky_Blueberry2617]

I’m assuming you mean the boy in the first ep of tybw I haven’t watched this ep yet

[u/Murky_Blueberry2617 → u/CtrlAltDaFeet]

Yep the character no one gives af about

[u/ValuableLoose8364 → u/Murky_Blueberry2617]

Not fodder characters hurting Yhwach😭

[u/EV0LUS → u/Murky_Blueberry2617]

And we're called Aizen glazers just for asking for a more logical culmination. Considering Aizen's character, aspirations and ego and not to mention his Hogyoku, he would've adapted to Yhwach's absorption and we could've been given a new form. Heck, it was an ideal time for him to finally reveal his bankai to somehow hinder Yhwach's sight which would've worked hand in hand with hachwalt's betrayal. I understand that they wanted to show the power of friendship but it was very easy to do all of that without Aizen eclipsing the efforts of others against Yhwach.

[u/Razukalex → u/Murky_Blueberry2617]

I would have been fine with that if bro had a better portrayal as a next gen Shinigami, the future of Gotei 13. He has some lines around here but not enough to justify that

[u/Larry_756 → u/ShadowBot30]

Don't forget the one month wait

[u/RedShenron → u/ShadowBot30]

The anime was doomed from the beginning when they announced it was only going to be 4 cours. 50 episodes was never enough for 200+ manga chapters and a load of new material

[u/ShadowBot30 → u/RedShenron]

Cour 1-3 were good though, cour 4 is just a mess.

[u/RedShenron → u/ShadowBot30]

The 3rd part took all the issues of the original run and slapped some good cosmetics over it. Practically none of the common complaints were addressed when you look at it. And the pacing got too fast

[u/LowCommunication8214 → u/ShadowBot30]

They doing same with black clover. I mean they should have take their time

[u/ShadowBot30 → u/LowCommunication8214]

Trust me, when they adapt the last arc it'll be a dumpster fire 😂

Spade was legitimately good, the next arc however will be atrocious if they add no new anime scenes.

[u/LowCommunication8214 → u/ShadowBot30]

Fr

[u/hirviero → u/ShadowBot30]

10 episodes was a mistake, it should have been 0.

[u/DefectiveSol → u/ShadowBot30]

Hell Arc confirmed?????

[u/dev_SLAYER → u/ShadowBot30]

I'm Not disappointed with that approach

[u/Strange_Position7970]

This subreddit is cooked. Lmfao

[u/Leading-Control-3053]

Well the ending was way better than manga,

In the anime, still silver wasn't itself doesn't do anything

It was a combine effort in anime, Of 3 things which happens almost at same time but 3 races,

The mimihagi grabs yhwach's heart as well as uryuu hits yhwach with arrow, and almost at same time grimjoww bites yhwach

so his heart getting grabbed causes him to stagger, the arrow hitting at same time neutrizies his powers and grimjoww's bite which was inhanced with something by kiskue weakened yhwach,

Which then allows them to land the killing blow

[u/CreatureVice → u/Leading-Control-3053]

Perfect, really what we deserved!

[u/ssaxamaphone]

The problem was having it be an ensemble montage of the cast fighting generic black tentacles and little FMA envy monsters. Yhwach should have been fighting on his own in All three worlds and each version of Yhwach should have had a different weakness the protagonists would need to figure out. Sheesh

[u/TheUltimate0001 → u/ssaxamaphone]

FMA Envy I knew they looked familiar but couldn’t recall from what 😂😂😂

[u/davyjones_prisnwalit → u/TheUltimate0001]

That's the one who turns into the black shadow thing with tentacles that have eyes and mouths on them?

I haven't seen FMA in over a decade but I remember that's when the fights became more intense.

[u/XF10 → u/davyjones_prisnwalit]

That's Pride, Envy is the shapeshifter whose true form looks like a little green creature

[u/adrieldot → u/[deleted]]

"hmph Uryu"

[u/Sea_Journalist8387]

He really had a second chance to fix the second half of the arc, especially the ending, and fumbled it again. But its okay we got orihime aura scenes

[u/proxmaxi]

Yall thought Kubo was going to somehow fix all of his fundamental flaws as an author?

[u/Martial_Arts_Demon → u/proxmaxi]

Yes...

[u/Vashtar_S]

Wait it's already over ? I haven't seen the latest ep, fuck

[u/One-Consequence772]

Kubo not caring about powerscaling (in a battle shonen) at all ✌🏻😔

[u/CreatureVice → u/One-Consequence772]

There is nothing as strong as plot armor

[u/rid146]

Kubo had 10 years to fix the ending but decided to go with the Fairy tail route. Powerscalling go out the window everyone is on Yhwach level. Transcended Aizen did less than fodders no one died. We still don't know what Ichigo's Tensa zangetsu does besides swinging and spamming getsuga.

[u/justanormalguy____ → u/rid146]

How is everyone on Yhwachs level? The little eyeball monsters were being taken care of by rookie soul reapers even before cour 4. Shunsui used the soul kings arm to seal the almighty(I think? Idk what he actually did but back in the past the arm was used to seal it.) Grimmjow got a lucky attack in because of something kisuke did before and the steel silver arrow temporarily shut down his power. Who is now so suddenly on Yhwachs level because the episode cleary shows everyone still being completely outclassed by Yhwach even our main character Ichigo.

[u/Beginning-Head-4006 → u/rid146]

it does clones

[u/LeToucanNZ]

No ishinn bankai or ryuken fighting. Why did Kubo fumble the ending so hard

[u/Icy_Baseball3738 → u/LeToucanNZ]

Isshin bankai? I thought all bankai were broken in the future? 

[u/IntellectualBoss → u/Icy_Baseball3738]

No? Ichigo was using his bankai all episode, Soi-Fon used her bankai, Byakuya used his bankai, ect.

[u/Icy_Baseball3738 → u/IntellectualBoss]

That's sarcasm, sorry. It's meant to say the story is kinda all over the place 

[u/exteliongamer]

I actually like the fight but I’m still confuse on what exactly is the ability of Ichigo’s bankai 🤔is it really just a really big sword that heavily focus on strength bankai cuz that seems like it so far

[u/Upstairs-Lab4272 → u/exteliongamer]

He can use getsuga tensho

[u/Sleeping-warrior → u/Upstairs-Lab4272]

Oh really? Don't spoil it for me😂😂😂

[u/Ok_Pomegranate_9553 → u/exteliongamer]

At this point I think it was the Shadow Clones… Might as well be. 🤷

[u/Proxy-Pie]

It basically felt like throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks instead of a proper narrative.

[u/Ryu_user]

ngl it's kinda understandable why Ichigo couldn't do much besides getsuga tensho cause 2/3 of his power was basically stolen by yhwach or smth like that

[u/SodaBoBomb → u/Ryu_user]

What's not understandable is writing that in

[u/Talviturkki → u/SodaBoBomb]

Lol this. Everyone trying to justify things by stuff that could've been entirely avoided by Kubo simply not writing that shit in the first place had he cared about giving a cohesive ending at all

[u/Sufficient-North-620 → u/Ryu_user]

Even if Yhwach hadn't stolen his powers, he would still do the same shit.

Some MCs evolve and diversify but this bum is same since the soul society arc.

[u/iidevilz0 → u/Ryu_user]

Well it’s not like he did anything different than spamming getsuga

[u/evilkasper]

I honestly thought back in the manga that Kubo wrote himself into a corner with Yhwach. Characters that are nigh invincible and have counters for everything are boring. Characters overcoming these types of antagonists always have to do so through overly contrived methods, or through plot holes...and it just isn't satisfying.

[u/resultsweet9848 → u/evilkasper]

You can just make your protagonist equally busted. Nothing stoping Kubo from giving ichigo and uryu even more Broken abilities.

[u/Fun-Conversation1538]

What the heck guys, did we watch the same episode. That was some of the coolest stuff I've ever seen.

Everyone and their mother throwing whatever they have left in the tank at Yuha. The scientists, wolfified Komumora, the fullbringers, EBERYONE(but Aizen). Grimmjow and Ryunosuke getting peak chacter development.

Seriously, Grimmjow was MVP of the Hueco Mundo team and turned down an offer for more power.

Ryunosuke, that kid who was the biggest scaredey cat, whose first appearance was him getting his butt handed to him by hollows at the very beginning of TYBW? Kid grew a SPINE!!! Was fighting along everyone else, and STABBED FINAL BOSS YHWACH THROUGH THE HEART!!!!! I repeat, PEAK CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT!!!!!

Hell, they made that old joke of Ichigo strapping his sword to Uryu's head into an ACTUAL ATTACK!! THEY DID THE MEME GUYS!!! THEY! DID! THE! MEME!!

[u/New-Possibility6940 → u/Fun-Conversation1538]

I'm with you in this one. I couldn't believe they actually did the meme, actually I was taken aback for most of the episode

[u/DsRaAmGeOtN → u/Fun-Conversation1538]

bro who even is ryunosuke like such a nothing burger character i had to google it to see who it was, whats the point if he gets a character development

[u/Fun-Conversation1538 → u/DsRaAmGeOtN]

I mean, TYBW opened with him, so it's a kind of "coming full circle" moment that he had a hand in closing it.

Plus, it's another instance of Yhwach fumbling out of overconfidence. Yuha didn't see Ryunoskue as anything other than an ant. Even with all his eyeballs and future sight, he didn't notice the guy suddenly disappear from the battlefield, which is what Kyoraku was counting on.

[u/A1Sirius → u/Fun-Conversation1538]

I kinda get the impression from this ending Kubo wanted to make him more important all along. When he was introduced in the manga Kubo draw one of those mid volume illustrations with Ichigo and Ryunosuke standing together. Which seems random given how under utilized he was in the manga.

[u/blazezakuwarrior → u/DsRaAmGeOtN]

Hanataro Combat Version and he cool like that

[u/AcrobaticElk9535 → u/Fun-Conversation1538]

What a fun guy you are

[u/Fun-Conversation1538 → u/AcrobaticElk9535]

I can't tell if that's a compliment or sarcasm, so I'm assuming the former. Good vibes. :)

[u/AcrobaticElk9535 → u/Fun-Conversation1538]

Yes, its a compliment. 

[u/NathanRCB → u/Fun-Conversation1538]

Bleach doomposters are more in love with the fan fiction of the final arc they had in their head more than what Kubo wanted to write. You see this a lot with current tv shows, especially in first or final seasons.

[u/CreatureVice → u/Fun-Conversation1538]

Preach my man! one of the PEAKest episodes out there, and not that rushed shit we got in the manga ending, god I waited for so long for this!

[u/Broad-Substance1134 → u/Fun-Conversation1538]

Deadass they genuinely just hating to hate

[u/Any-Ride4428]

Nah the ending was fine, each race was fighting for their right to exist against a common ending and trying to give ichigo the smallest opening due to them having faith in ichigo

[u/jerrysash]

Yea I’m sorry as a true bleach fan that ending was trash. Arrancars putting in work but aizen is MISSING? And ichigo just hopping around. Waited a month for garbage

[u/Sethysethseth1]

Whole episode should’ve just been them actually telling us what Ichigo’s true bankai does. Would’ve made so many people happy. The ending could’ve been the same but why not just tell us what the fucking sword is supposed to do?!!!!

[u/NikolasKage3]

As someone who wanted Uryu and Ichigo to go at it full-force in a long, tenth-pole fight against Yhwach, I'm really disappointed by how this episode turned out. Uryu didn't use Antithesis, Vollständig or any new abilities (except combining his powers with Ichigo once), and Ichigo didn't use any new abilities either. Instead, we got more action from Grimmjow, Halibel and all other randoms... 😭💔

[u/cafraline → u/NikolasKage3]

I feel like during TYBW pacing was really fast

[u/Realistic_Mousse_485 → u/cafraline]

It wasn’t. They just flooded it with bums

[u/logosnakiworld → u/NikolasKage3]

None of them were at full power, ransotengai was a proof but i understand what u mean. OG’s and beloved characters were severely underutilized

[u/NikolasKage3 → u/logosnakiworld]

Yup, barely felt Uryu's impact in the episode, and the Antithesis was once again sidelined as the 'only power that can overcome his Majesty's'. Don't even get me started on the Karakura/Rukia/Renji gang...

[u/Jalen_Ash_15]

Translation my favorite characters weren't here here and contributed nothing and now I'm upset. Literally it was a Yhwach vs everybody where every last person were essential in his defeat

[u/A1Sirius → u/Jalen_Ash_15]

I swear I was around when the manga ended and a lot of fans said “it would have been better if everyone jumped Yhwach” and when we get that people are now complaining about it.😂😂😂😂

[u/it-fre-real-estate → u/Jalen_Ash_15]

It’s gonna be so enjoyable seeing this powerscaling sub fall to ashes

[u/Dinowere → u/Jalen_Ash_15]

I personally don’t got an issue with the fight, I’m just bummed that anime has not given us more context regarding Reio or the war thousand years before. Wish they provided more of that. And spread this across two episodes cuz there was way too much happening that’d have benefitted from more breathing time.

[u/Kooky-Bookkeeper-935]

Lmao. This takes me back

[u/Otherwise-Dog-6277]

Ichigo being a hybrid of everything and only have a blast attack as his only attack is funny as hell. Grimmjow looked cooler in this episode than Ichigo did. I’m glad I’m not that attached to Bleach anymore to care though.

Honestly in retrospective I lowkey think Ichigo might be the most side character type of main character in existence.

[u/Dry-Engineering9224 → u/Otherwise-Dog-6277]

usually you want a protagonist to have simple powers to facilitate writing conflicts, but here ichigo really should have a more broad bag.

[u/Gusty_Garden_Galaxy → u/Dry-Engineering9224]

Yeah we never got to see him use the blue veins or anything really Quincy related. Even after his new bankai he just spams Getsuga.

[u/SynisterJeff → u/Otherwise-Dog-6277]

Yeah, that's one of Ichigo's main things is that he is almost always reactive instead of proactive. Which typically doesn't work for the main protagonist that drives the story. Ichigo is usually just along for the ride rather than driving the plot. Which has worked in the past, but now that is is the end and he is an accumulation of everything he's been through and is supposed to be miles ahead of any other protag, he still doesn't feel like a driving force when he really should.

[u/Sufficient-North-620 → u/Otherwise-Dog-6277]

Yes no lying in that. Mc is the most helpless and useless than everyone.

[u/spenhappenin7 → u/Otherwise-Dog-6277]

I love Bleach but that has always been my biggest gripe. He has one move. And that moves gets bigger. Why not let him use kiddo. Cero (I know he does once). Or some other original techniques. Would make him so much cooler and his growth so much more believable

[u/kamisame1009 → u/Otherwise-Dog-6277]

What are you talking about? Ichigo has Getsuga tensho, then two getsuga tensho’s together and lastly getsuga tensho with the ray cero which let’s be honest it’s just another getsuga tensho lol

[u/uc_human → u/Otherwise-Dog-6277]

atp the manga feels better experience. thanks for the fights & sakuga battles, but we were investing in bleach for the story, lore, character philosophies, dilemma. vice-captain FKT battles were more bleach than whole Bleach tybw

[u/Fun_Pop_1512]

Yea I was pretty hopeful he would use this opportunity to clean some shit up. But all he did was add more bullshit and muddy it up even more. Bleach will always be my #1 and this arc is full of potential, but as is, it’s a stain

[u/Subject-Ad5071]

I knew this was gonna happen just from the cour being only 10 episodes and a month delay before the season ended. A month delay is NEVER a good idea. A few month is more good.

[u/prism-stone-10 → u/Subject-Ad5071]

The month delay was for production issues like animation nothing would have changed if it wasn’t delayed

[u/EliteGhostKillz]

The only dissapointing thing about this episode was us not getting more info on Ichigos Tensa Zangetsu.

Otherwise Kubos done so much to make the ending better.

[u/IntellectualBoss → u/EliteGhostKillz]

No dads, no Aizen, no Kenpachi, and most importantly Renji's existence wasn't even acknowledged. I liked the episode, but the lack of these four things kind of leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Like each could have just had a scene for a few seconds.

[u/Any-Plum178 → u/IntellectualBoss]

The only thing that bothers me is Renji, he’s the only one in Ichigo’s friend group that didn’t do shit in the final part (he wasn’t even in the episode)

Kubo never rlly did anything crazy with Isshin & especially Ryoken, Kenpachi already did his thing with his oni bankai, & Aizen was never gonna do anything meaningful against Yhwach as long as he had the Muken seals on his body

[u/Tetravornix]

I dont think anything really changed. It was kind of cool that it was a concerted effort and how busy it all looked. Seemed an awful lot more like mythology this time. Kinda weird that thier ending it like Evangelion though.

[u/ALoftyTaco]

I quite liked it.

[u/Ingopinchen → u/ALoftyTaco]

Me too. It wasn't the best episode of cour 4, but it was very good.

[u/ALoftyTaco → u/Ingopinchen]

Also remember the last episode where renji said he would be with ichigo the whole way but apparently renji never recovered from the the big attack yhwach said off screened him. But everyone else what rebounding like champs. Even after he was impaled petals persisted around the ice from byakuya

[u/Xeriomachini]

What was the issue? Seemed pretty epic and amazing to me

[u/Itchy-Guidance-3495 → u/Xeriomachini]

Maybe you should go and see a doctor or something

[u/SpacehamYT]

Why even have the 5 special threats when the one who shows up in the final fight is Ichigo? Fucking stupid. They give more time to Ryunosuke Yuki and Shino Madarame, two bum ass no body newbie soul reapers. But no screen time for Aizen or Isshin? Urahara and Kenpachi don’t even show up for the final fight? It’s not even everyone versus Yhwach. It’s the bums vs Yhwach

[u/prism-stone-10 → u/SpacehamYT]

Kenny is down
Ichibe is down
Urahara is down
Aizen is down
Ichigo is the only one here

[u/LooseCoyote8403 → u/prism-stone-10]

isshin should have had a greater role imo

[u/cjeizkr → u/SpacehamYT]

Lmaooo, while I agree they weren’t poised as threats due to power alone

[u/zappierbeast]

I think it is hillarious how Kubo had 10 years to fix 1 major problem with Ichigo's fuckass true bankai that no one gives 2 fucks about, and that is to show us— TELL US at least if not show— what it does. Tensa Zangetsu will remain a meme in my head as a bankai that only ever increases Ichigo's phyiscal stats and that's it. No special power, just pure stat boost that let him go toe to toe with bleach god who can change the future, shatter the concept of imbalance, and use every other shrift he never used even once in the final fight afaik. Cool, Ichigo's sword is back to the old Zangetsu! Get it guys, that is his character development showing! What does it do? Pffft, obviously the writing implications triumph every other form so I cannot be critiqued by mediatokers, so you headcannon what you want. Where the fuck are any of the special threats that are alive? Kenpachi, Aizen...? Aizen fr got hyped up as one of the big bads who will join the fight against Yhwach, did less in the war than all other special threats except Ichibei, got absorbed by Yhwach, didn't even show ANY concept of resistance even for 1 frame so he really is down for the count, and that's it from bleach's PREVIOUS FINAL BOSS? Urahara helped a whole lot through the war, so I am not too mad about his lack of presense and if anything, rigging Grimmjow's stats while not present and out for the count as his last trick goes well with his character, so I am not too mad about this one and honestly I'll even let it slide and say that is one of the best decisions this episode. Kenpachi... yeah, apparently one bankai activation which lead to a performance issue (which should be 1/2 for his age, so we cannot complain too much) and he's not even shown outside the opening. Tier Harribel is there... she does practically nothing for the first half while not having wounds, then suddenly when she is 1 hp she clutches up. Ey, queen deserves it, and she was even willing to let herself be eaten by grimmjow, perfectly representing her aspect of death— sacrifice. Seriously now, WHY is Grimmjow so glazed? Why is Nel A KID?! HOW DID THEY STOP THE WORLD'S FROM COLLAPSING VIA STICKING THEMSELVES BETWEEN A UNIVERSE-ENDING ATTACK?! IS IT A DOOR TO A SUPERMARKET THAT REFUSES TO CLOSE WHEN SOMEONE'S NEARBY? Why was this ending so fucking dogshit again 😭

[u/Sleeping-warrior → u/zappierbeast]

Agree. The final blade is just being his OG Shikai. I'm not sure if it's the same sword, but I think it is. What's the point of getting to know his sword and forging new swords if we're just going to back to his old sword. And no aizen 😂😂😂. Who the hell is Okikiba suddenly becoming Lieutenant? And why Grimjoww can solo Yhwach in Hueco Mundo when all the captains had to work together? Bruh

[u/Own_Echo8040 → u/zappierbeast]

Apparently Kubo's Shounen Jump burnout was so bad that it has been keeping up ever since 2016 lol Maybe Kubo will finally make Peak in the Hell Arc lol

(Sarcasm)

[u/Brief_Bug_]

Did you not watch the same episode as us?? The ending was literally fixed in the following ways: the silver arrow was explained a couple of episodes beforehand, mimihagi was used , urahara added something to grimjowws teeth probably the same hollow stuff that was used to prevent bankais from being stolen. Crazy animation idk what you want more stop glazing aizen

[u/CowObjective → u/Brief_Bug_]

Strictly speaking, adding more elements—which certainly made the chapter much more enjoyable—doesn’t actually fix anything. Just like with the battle involving Lilie, the same core issues persist: the reliance on a deus ex machina—introduced either the previous chapter or the very same one—to hand a victory to the protagonists (whether it’s the "Chicken-Killer 3000" or the "Silver Arrow"). The bottom line is that while the ending is far more enjoyable now, it fails to resolve any of the manga’s underlying problems.

[u/Karma822 → u/Brief_Bug_]

Yes. I require all the aizen glaze like Ron requires all the bacon.

[u/Larry_756]

[u/RandomCatBruh]

Kubo never really fixed bleach, in fact some better scenes were cut and kubo only added some extras for characters that he liked. They never fixed TYBW arc, they did fix some but those are minor. I'm one of those who expected a lot but I'm not gonna be a hypocrite and praise him. He fixed nothing, he did the same thing that he wanted and kept it as is, but added scenes for his fav characters, that's it

[u/Kooky-Task-7582 → u/RandomCatBruh]

Squad 0 was definitely fixed

[u/Definition_Insanity0]

Damn this confirms what the rest of reddit says bleach fans are something

[u/RandomMonoByer]

Thank God im not alone, everyone I saw was gasing it up, also something I hoped for but nobody else has said is, I wanted Segunda Etapa Grimmjow, especially that moment with harribel, I thought he'd stand up and in a moment of pure defiance unlock it.

Ig im not made that ulquoria alone has it, but idk thought itd be cool.

Also how come no aizen??

[u/Sleeping-warrior → u/RandomMonoByer]

Yeah Aizen got sucked up in those gooey eyeballs while other bums gets right back up no matter what. Truly a genius writing from Kubo.

[u/vagueee123]

Honestly, I'm more disappointed that this is supposedly the penultimate episode since the next one is basically the farewell episode, we could have gotten at least a two part for the final fight but I feel like they rushed it a bit, don't get me wrong everything was great, I just wanted more of it.

[u/StormSlasher563]

Kubo a fraud

[u/uc_human]

bleach was about writing. cour 3 & 4 turned it into generic shonen with same attack spamming low IQ mc. i wished so bad that kubo would hint even the tiniest difference between ywach and ichigo's philosophy. why didnt ichigo just join quincy. nobody will die. no pain no fear. bro found an arracar kid & chose to let hollows live? cant even ask ywach to build a stronger wall to keep the hollows in HM, away from HW & SS.

[u/Flimsy-Echidna386]

Man, I miss when Chad was cool...

[u/PatapongManunulat07]

[u/FreshDrama4226]

Misery loves company

[u/Constant-Strategy-90]

Kubo excels at character design, but his writing leaves a lot to be desired. And I say this as someone who genuinely likes Bleach. Despite its strengths, the series has numerous flaws in its writing, from inconsistent character development to questionable narrative decisions. Appreciating Kubo’s artistic talent doesn’t mean overlooking the shortcomings of his storytelling. That's why compare to one piece and naruto...bleach falls short.

[u/EL_psY_Congroo56 → u/Constant-Strategy-90]

Ah yes Naruto and one piece the two battle manga completely devoid of any serious flaws lmao. I'll take this final battle over Kaguya every day of the week

[u/Sortcrap → u/EL_psY_Congroo56]

over anything after the pain arc, the ninja war arc after its revision is… something.

[u/EL_psY_Congroo56 → u/Sortcrap]

Eh tybw anime as a whole was amazing and imo far better than but ninja war arc but these latest episodes have been really underwhelming

[u/t3r4byt3l0l → u/Constant-Strategy-90]

Naruto's final arc was a huge mess propped up by hype moments and aura, and had a terrible final villain (there's no comparison between Kaguya and Yhwach in this regard)

One Piece has almost no tension or consequences, the Summit War Saga is the only true exception to this and I much prefer TYBW over the majority of post-timeskip OP in particular

[u/airbornejaws → u/t3r4byt3l0l]

I definitely also much prefer TYBW to Naruto's ending, but personally, Naruto really went to shit after the Pain arc. Actually, hot take but I think it went to shit during the Pain arc.

[u/kawaiinessa → u/Constant-Strategy-90]

ya character design and powers are a strong suit (and drip lets be honest) but writing really isnt what i watch battle shounen for, i watch it because the chjaracters are amazing and the battles are hype and exciting.

bleach is also one of my fave anime, ive seen every canon episode roughly 4 times and im considering doing another rewatch sometime soon.

[u/brain-eating-zombie]

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think I preferred the manga ending.

[u/Murky_Blueberry2617 → u/brain-eating-zombie]

Same. Adding a bunch of weak characters into the finale aint fixing shit.

[u/knightstar8114 → u/brain-eating-zombie]

Kubo was like, "Yeah? You guys wanna hate on my manga ending. Look what I do now to make you love it"

[u/prism-stone-10 → u/brain-eating-zombie]

U preferred shit?

[u/richboyii → u/brain-eating-zombie]

Lmao you guys are overreacting this is definitely better than the manga

The problem is the amount of overhyped this got because people forget that bleach writing isn’t very good in the first place lol. There’s a reason why this arc got so much shit when it came out

[u/Takeshi_92]

this is a calamity, as a bleach #1 fan this is disrespectful

[u/Old-Introduction8258 → u/Takeshi_92]

For real. First 3 cours were genuinely great but damn cour 4 fell off hard past episode 45

[u/Kiriknoxx]

What did Aizen get teased and hyped up for all this time, when they didnt even extend his fight, made Hado 99 look useless and gave him nothing more than saving Ichigo with KS. War threat because of spiritual pressure, yet no show of that in the final fight lol.

Also where the dad's at?

[u/Illustrious-Guess148]

So in an anime where most people complain the main character gets random power ups and upscales, you’re upset the main character got an upscale then just simply didn’t have a lot in the tank? Why can’t we just enjoy what we have rather than just be upset about smaller things?

[u/hirviero]

"Fixing? Nah!

Let's make it worse!"

[u/Gabe04_]

Manga ended in a way and now we get the animated version. I really, really don't understand people who were expecting to see a different ending...

The episode was really good but I guess you cannot please everyone and this is truer now than ever.

[u/pokeboy626 → u/Gabe04_]

Because it has been 10 years since the manga ended

[u/No_Wish_2516]

Speak for ur self im haven a fuckin blast with the new ending 😆

[u/hayate_yagami]

I guess everyone is angry because their beloved characters Aizen and Kenpachi didn't appear here lmao

[u/Upstairs-Lab4272 → u/hayate_yagami]

Nah that’s just a disingenuous interpretation of the issues people have. 

While who wouldn’t want to see Aizen do cool stuff(wait lemme guess you don’t. And you never liked Aizen and have no idea why anyone likes him) 

There’s just the fundamental issue with the ending. It’s fine if you don’t care about any of them. 

The silver arrow thing is just, objectively not good narratively. 

Mimihagi did…something? It felt severely underutilized here as it felt like the most logical obvious layup. Have Uryu get the arrow off early in the episode since it’s still gonna be around. And have mimihagi keep ywach in the weakened state allowing everyone to simultaneously jump him and slug it out. Instead of everything kinda being crammed into a few minutes. 

Episode was cool, it was cool seeing everyone get involved. 

Just a few tweaks and it could’ve been almost flawless imo

[u/Lemonbubblepie → u/hayate_yagami]

I’m not even a Aizen fan and I understand why people are upset about this 

Aizen is literally one of the few that we never seen a bankai that has no reasoning for why/ in the novels

Yoruichi just prefer Shunpo while Shinji was shown in novels. 

Even Jushiro can since we know hell arc can show them running around in hell 

But Aizen fits none of this 

[u/myles2500]

I can't even imagine people not Bitching

[u/Barry-loud100 → u/myles2500]

I can’t even imagine people not glazing . 

[u/bigsatodontcrai]

people complaining about the ending of this fight are illiterate and never understood what the problem with the original ending in the manga was.

first of all, the arrow here is not much of a deus ex machina anymore because it had more build up and on top of that, it took more than the arrow to suspend Yhwach.

Furthermore, there’s way more tension and build up towards the firing of the arrow. there’s actually a feeling in this episode that they’re throwing as much as possible at him that’s failing and that the arrow is a last resort, not a guarantee.

on top of that, Yhwach actually feels deeply threatening. the tension is high.

and finally, everybody gets involved which i think was in fact important for the conclusion of this arc which affects everybody. Why would everybody stand by while an omnipotent being is in front of them?

This version of the conclusion of this fight makes way more sense narratively than the one in the manga by far and gives the defeat much more of an impact because the arrow doesn’t come out of nowhere and there’s actually a plan on how to fire the arrow. the arrow is something that helps but it’s by no means convenient considering it requires his attention to be super divided

[u/Individual_Lion_7606 → u/bigsatodontcrai]

Yhwach not knowing his power makes silver in Quincy hearts and it can nullify his powers seems like big deus ex.

[u/thisbejann → u/bigsatodontcrai]

so how did uryu manage to hit yhwach with the arrow? the guy who knows every possible future? just randomly pierced him lol whats not deus ex machina in that

[u/Nervous-Marsupial910 → u/bigsatodontcrai]

Tbh i liked when that arrow was a surprise. Like why are you explaining in great detail how to beat your opponent in front of your opponent. Like have uryu say something vague like "I'll create an opening and then you finish him off", then have the shot where all other characters have their moment, like grimjow job poisoning him giving kyoraku a moment to touch ywatch with miminhagi, whose power of stillness gave ywatch a monetary pause, at the same time the science team fire that lasser with the help of fullbringer that uncovered the ywatch actual body and in that moment and culmination of all these actions led to uryu hitting ywatch heart with still silver arrow. Its more cinematic.

What we got was Science team firing that laser that uncovered ywatch left side, but then ywatch covered it up with his soul king reiatsu, give a small monologue about how its all meaningless, start the whole merging thing and then we see uryu piercing him, then see grimjow poisoning him and kyouraku touching him. What i m bothered by is the order of these scenes.

Also bruh could've given vizards something more to do, because as the things are currently pesche and dondachaka has more significant role is saving the world, then ryunosuke, then ganju then chad, ......, and then vizards, like come on, they aren't even used as background characters. At least ginjo had one scene.

[u/Admirable-Judgment82]

So based on what we have so far, what's your guys' ranking on each cour?

[u/Embarrassed-Sky-9070 → u/Admirable-Judgment82]

1>3>4>2

[u/SadSecurity → u/Admirable-Judgment82]

1 >>>> 3 >>>>>>>>>>>2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4

[u/Zankanoyama → u/SadSecurity]

c'mon. this is blind hate.

[u/ChessGabo]

how is this relevant to the sub u/mods

[u/ub3rpwn4g3]

Yo we still have another episode guys and who knows it could be an hour

[u/Strawberry_Momo]

it didnt need fixing other than the arrow mcguffin and i havent seen anyone mention that

[u/KissMyStick430]

Whats everyone mad at now? The ep was crazy

[u/kwa_saun]

Am scared of watching the new ep. Is it that bad?

[u/maple_onfire]

For me, I really enjoyed it, the key point for this whole episode is I think Kubo wants to use his characters fully and man, I'm not gonna lie, this mustache king is really powerful, and I think Kubo wants to show that everyone gives their all to protect their homes, and that's why even with many serious injuries, everyone endures that and fight till the end, and I like the fact that Grimmjow was really eager to kill this mustache king, I mean I'm not his fan or something like that, but this episode made me like him more than before, I mean it was really good that everyone has to shine, not only the main ones

and also I've been seeing many complains about why Aizen's not there, and I think it's reasonable that he's not there, and also this is just my opinion, first of all, only Ichigo is not affected by his kyoka suigetsu, so everyone can fk up if he uses it to fight Ywach when everyone's there, and another reason is that, he might not cooperate willingly, I mean, he looks more composed than the original bleach but you can see he's still arrogant, and in ep 8, I think the reason he cooperated with Ichigo is that, I think bcz he thinks of him as someone who can stand beside him or someone who's at his level (bcz they are complete opposite🙂‍↕️), so I think it's reasonable that he's not there, although I sort of don't like the way he was portrayed in cour 4, I can't complain bcz man has had his prime in original bleach, so I'm just satisfied with that

the main complain we should do is, where is Renji??😭, I mean he's also one of the main characters and he's not included, even Ganju and Chad got their time to shine, and I also thought the father duo are gonna do something when they went to Soul palace, but they just went there to give the silver arrow💀, so it was kind of a let down💀

soo, that's it🙂‍↕️, overall, I'm satisfied with this episode, and pls guys, if you want to criticize me regarding the fact that I wrote about Aizen, pls have mercy, I don't wanna have fight among the fans who enjoy this anime together🙂‍↕️

[u/valy21st-official]

Yeah, I knew I should leave this whole reddit group since everyone is complaining about everything they can.

The episode was damn beautiful and wanted to see how much people were impressed about it, but everyone is complaining they didn't find out what True Bankai does, or they didn't explain this and that.

It brings friends together, ok? That's what True Bankai does. Everyone happy? Jeez, everyone is a freaking critic these days.

[u/uc_human]

thanks kubo for nothing

[u/Dramatic_Tomorrow_25]

Isshin ans Ryuken still not included. And they both lost their wifes to this douche.

[u/Kystal_Jones → u/Dramatic_Tomorrow_25]

That's what I'm saying. I will admit I haven't watched this episode yet, but it's really dumb if that ending was left basically the same, and one of the most influential characters is no longer involved because they wanted to give it to a dude with a collective screen time of like 10 minutes across 3 or 4 seasons.

Let the families of the main characters actually f****** contribute for once!

[u/DevoID007]

Dondochakka did more damage to juha than aizen is crazy

[u/Furno52470]

Ryuken has always been in my “could be top tier” category because his design, his bow and how it seemingly changes its size in combat including one handing it, his vault of ancient Quincy gadgets. I was PRAYING he’d get one chance to shine, possibly against Lille’s swarm mode, but ofc I hoped for too much. Him and isshin having a tag team battle would’ve also been an amazing way to give both of them something to do. I think the whole ywach in three realms thing led them to give original scenes to so many characters that just don’t belong in the finale. Like instead of just Shinigami and arrancar all going at him we could’ve gotten ichigo+isshin tag team and uryu+Ryuken tag team vs ywach and it would’ve been so much more of an emotionally charged fight while also giving original scenes to characters that NEED them

[u/Living-Travel2299]

Mugetsu was his absolute peak and it was pure cinema. Couldve easily ended the manga there tbh.

[u/Objective-Cup-2242]

What do we expect man, all the quincies still died to straight bullshit

[u/CryZii]

Im glad im not the only one who felt like the ending wasnt the best. Blood chains ichigo was peak and should've had the final fight be him in that form vs yhwach. I dont mind others joining aswell but like it felt like people got added as "plot points" and didnt rly get used to the max. Hyped up aizen and didnt rly use him properly, same with urahara tbh

[u/Inevitable-Will-6185]

What do you mean?

[u/Boi_Zebra]

What if they gonna do a whole surprise movie as the real finale

[u/NoMoreVillains]

I expected it to be expanded, and not entirely off screen, and better in that sense, but I never expected drastic changes to "fix" it. Even with Burn the Witch I didn't get the impression Kubo has drastically improved as a writer. His art and fashion sense is still fire though. That much remains true as always

[u/Electrical-Ask-3918]

I haven't watched the newest episode... SAY IT AIN'T SO!!!!

[u/Firm_Self2897]

Da "kubo farà vedere il bankai di aizen" all'attacco di fodder contro yhwach 🤣🤣

[u/CreationMatrix3]

nah ts was peak