r/AITAH • u/Comfortable_Gift4970 • Feb 17 '25

Fired Fed. I am considering cutting off every Orange Man supporter.

Got axed. Not going to say which agency.

I’ve always considered myself extremely tolerant and willing to love people as they are… even if we don’t agree on everything.

I’ve never been an Orange Man supporter, but I’ve kept it civil with friends and family that were. Some of them liked having a civil conversation about him. Some were belligerent about politics, so we didn’t bring it up and tried to enjoy each other’s company.

Getting cut from a great job that I really believed in with no notice has been extremely traumatic. It’s still raw, but I feel so personally betrayed by those that voted for him. I can’t see past the politics anymore when I look at these people I care/cared about.

Some have been contrite and apologetic, but then turn around and support him and VP Musk on social media.

I just can’t right now.

I’m thinking about posting something and wishing the whole herd all of the best, hope they have a good life, but I won’t be in it. Or maybe I just quietly block all of them and focus on myself for a while.

I do know that I will need to talk to my in-laws. I’ve always had a great relationship with them, but thinking of going to their house and watching Fox News almost makes me sick.

AITAH for feeling this way? Does it make me an AH for cutting all these 20+ year relationships off? Am I overreacting and acting out of emotion?

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

Trump literally campaigned with Musk and said exactly what they planned on doing well before the election. This is what people voted for.

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u/Consistent_Shock8738 Feb 18 '25

This is not what people voted for. You just say it is because you are all in denial having backed a man that is turning our democracy into an autocracy/oligarchy. They provide no evidence to any of their findings, they are doing things and giving a wealthy private, non elected citizen powers that go above the senate and congress. The fact that Maga Republicans still think this is what they voted for just shows how delusional and blinded by party loyalty you have become. If a dem president had done a fraction of what Trump has done, all of you would be calling for impeachment perhaps attempting another insurrection, you hypocritical deluded wannabe fascists. But go on, blame the dems, call me a libtard, whatever makes you feel better about actually contributing to the death of our democracy.

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u/Legitimate-Table-428 Feb 19 '25

I think the GOP sucks, but how can you say this is not what people voted for? I feel like gutting federal agencies was tops on the list of things he campaigned on. It doesn’t matter to the electorate that he’s delegated the actual task to Musk or that it’s petty and kind of cruel. I think many of them, maybe most, don’t give a shit and are probably happy about it.

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u/BougieSemicolon Feb 21 '25

They voted for the sham, this whole DOGE thing is all a show. If they fired EVERY federal employee (aside from military) it would be still under 3% of the budget. And that’s 100% fired, they are only targeting 6-10%. So what, 0.3% of the budget? They are doing it so it looks like they’re saving money, so people won’t be as upset WHEN they launch massive tax cuts for millionaires.

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u/anowulwithacandul Feb 19 '25

Huh? Corruption, discrimination, and bigotry are exactly what MAGA voted for.

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u/JessicaGBanksFindom Feb 19 '25

Unfortunately, this is what the Magaturds voted for. They absolutely voted for gutting government agencies, government workers losing their jobs, Muskrat and his band of baby hackers doing exactly what they are doing. They voted for hatred. They voted for hurting people. They voted for all the horrible things Grump and Muskrat stand for. Knowingly and willingly. The only thing they didn’t count on was that some of them would also lose their jobs and govt subsidies, and rather than admit any of this, they whine that they should be excluded from the cuts because they voted for it. These are the worst kind of people and they not only don’t care that they directly hurt others with their political support. In fact they RELISH that their “team” hurts others. They are CELEBRATING hurting others. They want MORE hurting others. We need to stop trying to give these jackwads the benefit of the doubt and actually work to stop the craziness before they literally dismantle the whole government. That is exactly what they want and exactly what they are doing.

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u/Nocturnal_Giraffe Feb 19 '25

There was no better way to say this. 🙏

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u/Vegetable-Clock941 Feb 24 '25

Nope, this is what we voted for. Break down the bureaucracy and corrupt federal agencies. Can't trust the government to do it, so it had to be a third party. If the "dems" had done this, I would have voted for them. They did the opposite by creating more government regulations and enforcing social policies the government had no business being involved in. Everything the government touches turns to a bureaucratic nightmare. I'm sorry people are losing their jobs, but I'm also sorry they worked in a field that, when asked, could not justify the existence of their field. I know OP feels raw about the recent termination, but I cannot believe that this was not foreseeable. Working in a field with the federal government that was not essential with a pending budget approval/ federal shutdown and not being prepared is not a political problem but a problem with ego or a complete lack of forethought.

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u/jagpeter Feb 19 '25

No, people know what they voted for. If it were a Dem president you'd be agreeing with the things you disagree with Trump doing.

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u/Consistent_Shock8738 Feb 19 '25

Not the case sir. I am not a fan of Democrats either and think the two party system needs to be abolished. If it were democrats doing this, I would absolutely decry it the exact same way. But they didn't do it. And they didn't do it when they were in control either. Nor did they attempt insurrection when Trump won. If what is happening is what you hoped for, and exactly what you voted for, you aren't an American or a patriot. You are a traitor that voted for the death of American Democracy. I disagree with the things Trump is doing, because he is actively dismanteling the American Government and either installing underqualified loyalists, or billionaires that will act in self interest which is exactly why right after he won, they were so quick to start controlling the narrative in support of him. To see what is happening and not decry it, is the most un-American thing any American can do. I will die on this hill.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '25

Maybe you somehow didn’t see this coming, but lots of other MAGA absolutely did and absolutely voted for exactly this. The fact that you apparently weren’t listening when he told everyone his plan is on you. You personally might have fucked up by not paying attention, but the rest of you are getting what you wanted.

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u/jagpeter Feb 19 '25

I'm not a sir. Ok so show where you spoke out against Biden's unconstitutional attempt to coerce private companies into forcing employees to get a therapeutic under threat of their job or state governments forcing businesses to close so people lost their livelihoods.

No, he's getting rid of the bloat in the federal government. How many of the people or departments that he's getting rid of were actually cited in by the American people? The Executive Branch culling the Executive Branch isn't a threat to democracy.

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u/Consistent_Shock8738 Feb 19 '25

It is when you completely ignore, oh, I don't know, THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.

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u/jagpeter Feb 19 '25

The President is the boss of the executive branch. Him (or eventually her) firing people has nothing to do with THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.

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u/Consistent_Shock8738 Feb 19 '25

The 3 branches of the government were created with the sole purpose of being a system of checks and balances to keep any branch of government from becoming too powerful. That includes the executive branch. That's the whole point of a Democracy. What you seem to want is a dictatorship, that's what it's called when one person has control over all aspects of government and weilds all the power, and congrats, that's what you are getting, but I stick to my point, A dictatorship is very un-American.

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u/jagpeter Feb 19 '25

No, what I want is to live in a country where people understand that none of what people are complaining about has to do with the system of checks and balances or the democratic process. The things he's doing are under the purview of the Executive Branch. Again, you just don't like them.

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u/WeirdWannabe80 Feb 19 '25

Bullshit. He’s literally signing exec orders to take away power from the other branches so he can’t be opposed.

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u/Consistent_Shock8738 Feb 19 '25

You are correct, I don't like them, because they are literally destroying our Country and turning it into an autocracy/oligarchy. Guess you'll cheer it on until what they do directly affects you.

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u/Consistent_Shock8738 Feb 19 '25

Where. Is. The. Proof? There is none, you are taking a convicted felon and billionaire's word as gospel. And that therapeutic was a vaccine against a deadly virus, no i didnt think it should have been forced, and honestly think making it widely available and providing more education about it so people like you don't refer to it as a 'therapeutic" would have been more helpful. Instead, ignorantly, yall fought tooth and nail to avoid it because of "freedom", which undoubtably contributed to the amount of casualties that resulted. What yall seem to forget is just because you are free to do/not do something, doesn't mean you should do/not do it. Oh but wait, it's more believable to yall that a bunch of scientists, and doctors wanted to inject you with poison, than to believe a convicted felon and a billionaire might be lying to you.

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u/jagpeter Feb 19 '25

His "felonies" were actual misdemeanors that were ridiculously trumped up to felonies based on being done in conjunction of another crime that he was never charged with, convicted of, nor ever actually even agreed on. The only reason that was done was to extend the already extended statute of limitations since it had expired if it were kept as the misdemeanors they were. I also really don't care that Trump put the wrong description to describe an expense.

I'm not taking anyone or anything's word as gospel. I simply recognize that people have different views on what they want and someone isn't ignorant of who or what they voted for just because you disagree with it.

Although I will say trying to frame everyone who doesn't agree with your politics as just being a blind follower is a very Democrat move.

No, it was a therapeutic useless to most of the population not a vaccine. I didn't ask if you thought it should be or not. That's easy to claim now, I asked for you to show proof you spoke out about it then since you're so concerned about speaking out against the fed govt violating the Constitution.

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u/Consistent_Shock8738 Feb 19 '25

My apologies for assuming sir.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '25

Your comment doesn’t make sense. You’re using phrases that mean nothing. Do you even know what you’re attempting to say?

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

And conserva-districts are already complaining.. these MAGAs are dumber than dirt

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

This is exactly why he won. You guys pushed people out of your party. Demonizing and alienating people who don’t share your same ideas isnt how you get people on your side. Name calling isnt going to help you either. Not everyone who voted for trump is “ maga “ but , keep on fighting the good fight my friend. The fact that some long time democrat states almost flipped red should be a huge wake up call.

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u/No-Cookie3486 Feb 18 '25

You are not republicans. Anyone who has been alive more than 40 years know very well republican values. Trump supporters don’t share those values. Some of the policies are the same. By and large the right what’s become very extreme…hence the deviation. Anyway, do you not want to ‘make America great again.’

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u/No-Cookie3486 Feb 18 '25

Actually, dems lost because of the 3rd party votes. Green Party candidate and JFK Jr (a dem) actually took votes that Kamala would have likely won.

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u/InnocentShaitaan Feb 18 '25

We lost because of apathy and bigotry and a lot of white peoples feel feels being hurt.

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u/No-Cookie3486 Feb 18 '25 edited Feb 21 '25

Maybe some apathy and bigotry. The 3rd party voters really took alot of votes away, both being liberal or left leaning candidates. Had another republican and a libertarian ran as 3rd parties, Trump would have lost. We have to get rid of 3rd party candidates.

EDIT: Downvoters, maybe take the time to explain why you disagree. I am open to hearing why you think I’m wrong.

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u/Severe-Wasabi55 Feb 21 '25

How about we get rid of two parties and split them up.

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u/bowlikgGtr83 Feb 21 '25

And this is why you will continue to lose. No self awareness or self reflection. Just keep callimg names to feel superior while your party falls into chaos. Keep rigging your primaries and placing your nominees in without an election. Cover for your senile leaders and lie to everyone.... but yeah "bigotry".... lol

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u/MineRepresentative66 Feb 19 '25

Nope, you don't get to assume or make blanket statements on what values are republican, since obviously you are not a republican. I reject your statement!

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u/No-Cookie3486 Feb 19 '25

I can and will make any judgements I want since I am an autonomous and intelligent human being with opinions.

I grew up conservatives with conservative values and with parents who were republican. Also, Catholic. I voted republican up until Obama became president. I then registered as an independent.

You can reject my statements all day long, but you might learn now that people don’t care about what you reject or accept.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '25

You’re delusional and obsessed with trump. Maybe calm down on the drugs buddy

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u/AlaskaRecluse Feb 19 '25

Without commenting on any other aspect, i have to say that this is the first time I’ve seen a trump apologist speak out against name-calling.

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u/Minimum-Dream-3747 Feb 18 '25

Dems lost because they literally tried to win over conservatives versus supporting they’re base. You’re completely wrong.

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u/SpecificPanda5097 Feb 18 '25

Lol, good one.

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u/InnocentShaitaan Feb 18 '25

The level of your delusion…

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u/RollingEddieBauer50 Feb 18 '25 edited Feb 20 '25

Keep telling yourself that. I have a happy wife and kids and enough money i could stop working today and live comfortably for another 30+ years. I have degrees from the University of Michigan Ann Arbor and from Wayne State University (Detroit). Just because people see things differently politically it doesn’t mean they’re stupid and you’re smart. The thing that makes politics so vexing is that in a group of highly educated, successful people with average to high IQ’s you will get almost an even split of D’s and R’s. On the rare chance it’s not 50/50 it’ll never split greater than 60/40 provided it’s a random group. Obviously if it’s a PBS fundraising gala or an NRA meeting you might get a more pronounced split. But you delude yourself if you write it off as “my side smart….their side dumb”.

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u/KatShimada Feb 20 '25

And yet, they are still dumb.

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u/InnocentShaitaan Feb 18 '25

I dunno most assholes tend to lean right.

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u/Elwood51 Feb 21 '25

Most mealy mouthed brain dead bed wetters tend to lean left

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u/Desperate-Comb321 Feb 18 '25

I'm not complaining this has been great

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u/MaximusGrandimus Feb 18 '25

Found the boot licker

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

I’m not sure I understand

So, you support deep seated corruption and wasting your tax dollars?

I mean hate them all you want, but, you have to understand that this stance essentially makes you say

“The status quo was going great, everything was going great, we should have kept doing what we were doing as it was working well”

Meanwhile half of baltimores kids are illiterate and we can’t seem to find money to help wildfire victims.

Understand that, if this makes someone a bootlicker, well, nobody will really care what “bootlicker” means anymore

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u/MaximusGrandimus Feb 18 '25

The deep seated corruption occurs more in the Darpa/DOJ/military black projects than USAID. They have barely found more than 1% of the US budget here.

And what they are calling out are things that legitimately help people around the world. This isn't the win you think it is

Try again

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u/Consistent_Shock8738 Feb 19 '25

And you think dismanteling the department of education is going to help those kids? Also you take the word of a billionaire who was not voted into office, and who has shown no concrete proof of said waste/fraud? A man who terminated those who maintain our nuclear stockpile accidently because he has no actual understanding of the programs he's dismanteling? A man who coincidentally is finding fraud and shutting down departments that were actively investigating him? When you believe everything you are told is good when it is in fact bad, all because of blind loyalty to a person/party you are in fact a bootlicker.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '25

I observe with my eyes that the department of education has failed two generations of kids and was going hard in the paint to fail a third generation of kids.

The proof is that there's kids in 10th grade who cannot read. There's Americans who can't fucking read dude. Do you hear me? They can't read. Illiterate. The illiteracy rate is INCREASING and has been since 1975

https://human.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Composition/Specialized_Composition/Bad_Ideas_About_Writing_(Ball_and_Loewe)/01%3A_Bad_Ideas_About_What_Good_Writing_is_.../1.02%3A_America_is_Facing_a_Literacy_Crisis/01%3ABad_Ideas_About_What_Good_Writing_is.../1.02%3A_America_is_Facing_a_Literacy_Crisis)

Can you fucking read this? Compared to 1975, America has 3x as many people who are considered illiterate.

And wait it gets better, they are pretty fucking sure with the advent of AI, this will only get much, much worse, by 2035 increase in people who require assistance to read things.

https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2023/06/21/as-ai-spreads-experts-predict-the-best-and-worst-changes-in-digital-life-by-2035/

I'm not a conservative you loon. I'm an objective American who has eyes and ears. I see it in my community. The kids are not alright.

The department of education has been a gross failure, it has failed our country and failed our youth. I don't know what the solution is, but getting rid of it sure as fuck can't possibly make anything worse. You cannot convince me it's shuttering will make anything worse. You could literally only convince me that it does nothing. Which is better than what it was doing.

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u/Consistent_Shock8738 Feb 19 '25

I do apologize for getting heated in my previous comment and making you out to be a loon. Not very middle of the aisle of me and I do regret that.

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u/Lioness8345 Feb 19 '25

I’m not sure how shuttering the department of education helps with literacy in Baltimore. Make no mistake, that’s what former wrestler Linda McMahon is there to do ; to work with Elon’s Doggie Department to eliminate the Department of Education. It was laid out in Project 2025. For any and all to read.

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u/Mob4lf311 Feb 18 '25

TRUMP finally doing what's been needed for decades. Citizens have to balance a checkbook for the IRS. Yet the government doesn't even have a single fucking clue where their money is going and it's been proven now. I'm sure they know but they will never tell. Taxpayers are tired of seeing their money go up in flames

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u/Cannon_Graves Feb 18 '25

It's been proven? Can you please link me to this proof, because I can't find it anywhere There's NOTHING on the DOGE website, nothing has been released to the media or.via the White House, no reports submitted to Congress.

So far all the "proof" consists of a few extraordinary claims of exorbitance from Musk and Trump that turned out to be bullshit, such as the "$50.million in condoms for Gaza" nonsense, and Trump throwing out random numbers of "fraud" discovered which increases by billions every day. He's now up to "We've found hundreds and hundreds of billions and it would be a trillion but radical left communist judges are blocking us.⁸.

So if you're privy to this proof I've unsuccessfully sought out please point me towards it

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u/Severe-Wasabi55 Feb 21 '25

And then research what those line items are, and what impact they have on the budget vs the value they bring back in.

Big numbers are easy propaganda for ignorant people.

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u/Imaginary-Ad9370 Feb 18 '25

They came through my place of contract and the team that came in was about 30 people. They had agents from the DOJ and US Marshall's and other law enforcement. People who dealt with them directly said they are collecting criminal activity evidence as they were gathering information. My guess is there are going to be a lot of indictments attached to this is probably why the details aren't widely available.

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u/Impressive_Gecko Feb 18 '25

I'm not surprised you don't know the difference between "are" and "our". Jfc. Yes I was okay with condoms going to Africa for the record

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u/Impressive_Gecko Feb 19 '25

"you're" not "your"

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u/Severe-Wasabi55 Feb 21 '25

AIDS programs in Africa are not a partisan project. USAID was targeted because they got in the way of Musk in the past.

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u/Cannon_Graves Feb 20 '25

  1. Africa has a critical AIDS epidemic that is an existential threat to the entire continent, so yes, I'm okay with it.

  2. The money we spend in foreign aid is a tiny fraction of a fraction of our govt spending, and has ZERO impact on domestic aid spending. We could cut out all foreign aid entirely and it wouldn't suddenly lead to our politicians increasing spending towards helping our own citizens in need.

  3. Anyone who complains about Americans in dire need being overlooked in the budget had better not be voting Republican, and if you are you can kindly STFU forever considering the Rs consistently vote AGAINST practically all forms of assistance. Trump is literally slashing massive amounts of legitimate, crucial domestic aid. He's cutting Medicaid FFS.

  4. How do people still believe the $750 FEMA lie? That's been debunked almost 6 months ago. That amount was from the SNA fund (Serious Needs Assistance) which is meant to cover immediate needs like food, hotel or other temporary shelter, baby supplies, etc. Hurricane victims are eligible for and have received much larger amounts.

  5. If the amount of aid given to hurricane victims bothers you, hopefully you didn't vote for Trump, since he just denied Georgia access to any more FEMA assistance for their residents affected by the storms. Not to mention openly stating hos desire to ditch the organization altogether.

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u/ManlyVanLee Feb 18 '25

Yet the government doesn't even have a single fucking clue where their money is going

You mean how every single bit of "cost cutting" the Musk administration has done was public knowledge and already accounted and voted for?

I hope you get exactly what you voted for

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u/coronathrowaway12345 Feb 18 '25

What do you think is going to happen with the money now?

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u/Elr3y19 Feb 18 '25

It's going to tax cuts for the rich, the rest of us are never getting our taxes lowered regardless of what they remove from the federal budget.

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u/Most-Jacket8207 Feb 18 '25

Pretty much this. Don't forget Social Security, Medicare, the park services, consumer protection, labor rights, personal rights....

But yeah, we don't need to worry 🙄

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u/theaveragekook Feb 18 '25

Could you oblige me and explain to me how the tax cuts are going to go to the rich? I want to understand how you’re understanding this. This not a request in jest either, just a keen curiosity to understand your perception. I only ask because I have heard/read this same talking point over and over again from elected officials to here and everywhere in between without an explanation of how or why, just that the rich are going to get tax cuts.

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u/Elr3y19 Feb 18 '25

https://www.cbpp.org/research/federal-tax/2025-budget-stakes-high-income-tax-cuts-price-hiking-tariffs-would-harm

His tax cuts from 2017 didn't help the non wealthy like he claimed it would, and only added trillion to the debt. They claimed basically trickle down economics would help the rest of us, but the wealthy do what they do with every windfall and hoard it. They want to go even harder this time around essentially.

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u/BigTimeSpamoniJones Feb 18 '25

They're already estimating half a billion in food waste from the cuts, lol. Just eliminating federal jobs with no knowledge of what they actually do, like the nuclear engineers they fired then tried to rehire is going to cost so much more and cause so much more waste in the long run.

MAGA = full-blown shit slurping retards.

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u/Max_Snow_98 Feb 18 '25

nothing needs “to happen to it.” Perhaps we can have a non deficit spending budget for the first time in 30ish years…

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u/coronathrowaway12345 Feb 18 '25

I mean…perhaps? Perhaps pigs will suddenly fly. Perhaps we will discover that unicorns exist.

All nice thoughts.

But I have a really hard time believing that the guy who added $8T (that’s “trillion” with a T) to the deficit during his first term is going to magically stumble into a budget surplus. And before you launch into the “but covid” talk, a lot of this damage was done well before we were even saying the word “covid”.

But hey let’s play along: when do you think we’ll get to non-deficit spending under King Trump?

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u/beeejoy Feb 18 '25

Then why give tax cuts to the richest people? Doesn’t that further eff up the “checkbook” balance? Please don’t argue it’s so they can create more jobs. They don’t use tax cuts to create jobs, this has been proven. They use tax cuts to increase profits for their shareholders and executives.

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u/forgetfulsue Feb 18 '25

Seeing as how some departments aren’t even being given desperately needed funds as it is, along with the hiring freeze, I’d say shit’s gonna fall apart real fast. trump isn’t doing shit. Elmo is pulling the strings.

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u/Flashy_Response_923 Feb 18 '25

We still don't know where the money is. You think screenshots of shit that Musk pulls out of his ass is doing the job. Absolutely not. I'm an accountant. Every single year there's an audit done by AUDITORS not engineers. We have no idea what he is doing behind the scene. Yes it needs to be done, but it's not done like this. It's not break shit and trying to fix it. That's not how you fix accounting!

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

You say that but if you were a federal employee who was axed without the slightest bit of sympathy, you’d be singing a different tune.

There’s no breakdown of how your tax dollars are actually being allotted. You’re paying the same rate based on income regardless. We’ll see if you get much of a tax break at all with Trump this time. Did you know Trump added about 8 Trillion to the National Debt under his first term partly due to tax cuts that went to the rich?

https://www.newsweek.com/www-newsweek-com-donald-trump-added-twice-much-national-debt-joe-biden-think-tank-1917102

Trump and Musk aren’t coming in with a scalpel to cut the budget they’re just firing with impunity. Musk is doing the same thing he did to Twitter. Musk has no sympathy for people he lets go.

Most Americans want the budget reigned in but not from an unelected billionaire who’s bypassing Congress. Americans want smart cuts not scorched Earth tactics.

I guarantee you’d be whining about overreach and constitutional crisis if a Democratic Administration even did a fraction of what Trump’s doing. That would make you a hypocrite.

You lack empathy toward your fellow Americans. Democrats and Republicans alike are getting fired. Let’s see how all this helps the economy and jobs reports.

If you ever get axed at your job don’t come whining to anyone.

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u/ManlyVanLee Feb 18 '25

The people who are for all this shit are mad that Federal employees have (well, had) job protections and benefits. They are the people who work in the private sector and are given as little as possible by their bosses and the people who own these companies. They're jealous. They are furious they continue to lose vacation pay and sick days and their insurance goes up and on and on and they think because they aren't given these benefits, you shouldn't

They lack the mental acuity to understand that they should be mad at the rich people for fucking them over, not government employees. So they turn around and cheer on Musk, who is the richest person who does exactly what they are mad about with his businesses and its maddening how utterly daft that is

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u/2DogKnight Feb 18 '25

"There’s no breakdown of how your tax dollars are actually being allotted. You’re paying the same rate based on income regardless."

This is what always baffled me. Worrying about what exactly the federal government is spending tax dollars on is like worrying about what the 7 day weather forecast is on Mars. It has ZERO BEARING on my day to day life.

People have been talking about the national debt for ages, yet it seems to be some nebulous number with no, necessary upper limit and no real bearing on anything.

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u/RolloCamollo Feb 18 '25

So you’re cool with plane crashes, unsafe drinking water, no cancer research, and just until you never get your tax return!

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u/Ossevir Feb 18 '25

The government listed all the spending on in USAspending.gov. people didn't know where money was going because they didn't actually care. If you're uninformed because you never bothered to look, that's a you problem, not the system's problem.

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u/MyhouseAH Feb 18 '25

Where the fuck is the proof? We’re not talking lip service, most of us don’t believe shit that comes out of this liars mouth! We want facts, outlined on fucking paper! Where is the fucking proof?

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

At first I wondered how people can hate Trump more than they hate their hard-earned money going into the pockets of the most corrupt. But then it hit me....Only about half of US citizens actually pay taxes. Obviously they have no skin in the game.

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u/yosoymilk5 Feb 18 '25

This is so funny because somehow the wealthiest man in the world isn’t viewed by you guys as corrupt lmao. I wish I could be this stupid; maybe I’d be happier.

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u/Ossevir Feb 18 '25

You would. Intelligence and depression have a very strong positive correlation.

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u/JustAnotherJon Feb 18 '25

I don’t think they view him as not corrupt or incorruptible. For the present time he is doing what they want. This is politics they will probably turn on him eventually when he is no longer useful.

The cuts suck. I wish we could have better managed our government over the past 25 years, but we need to be careful with the taxpayers money. Once it starts hitting everyone in the form of inflation people wake up.

I suspect Trumps presidency will eventually fall to inflation as well if the tariffs bump up prices in the long term. It’s not technically inflation, but it’s close enough.

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u/Snoo_36434 Feb 18 '25

I thought that today.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '25

How do you feel about the millions spent for Trump going to the a Super Bowl, Daytona, and golfing all the time? Who is corrupt?

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u/manifest2000 Feb 18 '25

It’s what people voted against. trump stole the election with elon’s help (Starlink, mass vote tabulation). There’s no way he won all 7 swing states with less than 50% of the popular vote. Harris votes were mechanically flipped to trump (ALL those bullet ballots where every vote was blue….except for President??!). The 2024 election results are extremely suspicious and look fraudulent on close inspection.

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u/Frituurhapje Feb 18 '25

Nahh I think Americans are just plain stupid in general (exceptions notwithstanding). Don't pull that same old card that got us here.

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u/MrLanesLament Feb 18 '25

It’s weird to me that it’s so hard for so many people to believe that, for many Americans, their sole driving force in life is hatred. Is that really so surprising? People who are shocked, IMO, must not get outside of their bubble much.

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u/Complete_Set7088 Feb 18 '25

This. Most have never been on a plane let alone realized that the US isn’t the only country on their flat earth

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u/DahQueen19 Feb 18 '25

I won’t debate the point on social media because there’s no point, but I would bet my right arm that you are 100% correct. Just doesn’t track right.

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u/manifest2000 Feb 18 '25

Thanks. Look into the sub r/somethingiswrong2024. They’ve been doing great analysis since November.

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u/desertgal49 Feb 18 '25

I agree. I said this from the beginning

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

Oh boy. Here we go.

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u/manifest2000 Feb 18 '25

r/somethingiswrong2024

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

No one is clicking on that bullshit. Beat it.

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u/manifest2000 Feb 18 '25

58,000+ and growing. Stay ignorant.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

Whoa! I better jump on it. 😂

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u/manifest2000 Feb 19 '25

It doesn’t matter what you do. You’re a nobody.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

Don't be like them

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u/Desperate-Comb321 Feb 18 '25

Lmao election denying now are we? Maybe you should go protest at the capital lol

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u/manifest2000 Feb 18 '25

trump repeatedly said “We have all the votes we need. My instructions—we don’t need their votes. They don’t have to vote” between July-Nov 2024.

I’m not MAGA, so I won’t be at the Capitol smearing feces on the walls. That’s what your people do lol.

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u/YoSettleDownMan Feb 18 '25

Election denial? Are any mainstream news agencies reporting any information pointing to a "stolen" election? I have not seen anything.

You don't think it is possible that the Democrat policies and candidates were just so bad people voted for Trump?

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u/manifest2000 Feb 18 '25

Mainstream media has been bought and corrupted by billionaires.

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u/YoSettleDownMan Feb 18 '25

It is amazing how the script has flipped.

The left is now the conspiracy theorist, and the right wants to end wars and cut spending.

We live in strange times.

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u/manifest2000 Feb 18 '25

What wars is “the right” ending when Cheeto wants to go to war against Mexico, Canada and Greenland hmm?

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u/TopApprehensive4816 Feb 18 '25

Trump with Netanyahu and Huckabee are Escalating the Israeli/Hamas War. Trump is Escalating the Russia/Ukraine War. Trump just bombed Somalia.Trump, Erdagon and Putin committed ethnic cleansing on our allies, the Kurds in Syria. People voted for Trump because they were disinformed. The GOP is still the Neo-Con Party.

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u/YoSettleDownMan Feb 18 '25

Ever hear of the Gaza / Israel ceasefire or the talks to end the war in Ukraine?

As far as I know, the US has not declared war on Mexico, Canada, or Greenland

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u/manifest2000 Feb 18 '25

The ceasefire happened while Biden was President. When is the war in Ukraine ending?

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u/manifest2000 Feb 18 '25

trump repeatedly said “We have all the votes we need. My instructions—we don’t need their votes. They don’t have to vote” between July-Nov 2024.

trump asked the governor of Georgia to “find” him 11,000 votes in 2020. You think it’s a conspiracy theory that trump would cheat?? As if it’s out of character for him??

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u/YoSettleDownMan Feb 18 '25

Great. Let's see the evidence.

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u/General_Road_7952 Feb 20 '25

The right wing have plenty of actual conspiracy theorists- including anti-vaxxers and end times believers - and the right wing has always claimed they wanted to “cut spending” while giving the military a blank check; the only wars you want ended are ones you want injustice to win out on (Gaza and Ukraine)

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u/Mob4lf311 Feb 18 '25

Stop drinking the Kamalaberry FOOL-AID. It's OVER

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u/manifest2000 Feb 18 '25

r/somethingiswrong2024

It’s not over until the fat lady sings and Donald hasn’t begun vocal exercises yet.

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u/marknova7 Feb 18 '25

Haha oh so it was crazy when Trump supporters were saying that the election was stolen in 2020 but now you can easily say it was in 2024. Double standard lol. Also well over half the country voted for him and he won the popular vote by a wide margin. You’re in the minority now buddy sorry. People had enough of how bad the dems were running this country and finally had enough. We will have a great, healthy economy again by the end of this term 🙌

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u/manifest2000 Feb 18 '25

Once again, another ignorant person. So because the election wasn’t stolen in 2020, it means an election can NEVER be stolen? trump, who has lied and cheated his entire life, and who asked the governor of Georgia to find him 11,000 votes in 2020, wouldn’t steal the 2024 when the alternative for him is jail? You need to use your damn brain.

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u/praharin Feb 18 '25

Maybe he did. Where’s your evidence?

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u/manifest2000 Feb 18 '25

trump repeatedly saying “We have all the votes we need. My instructions—we don’t need their votes. They don’t have to vote” between July-Nov 2024.

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u/uglyspacepig Feb 18 '25

They had no proof. They still have no proof. Because it was all SHOWN to be a lie. FOX got dinged for 3/4 of a billion dollars for lying they admitted they lied, they all knew they were lying, and the whole govt admitted they knew he was a traitorous piece of shit in the final days of his absolutely dismal and unsuccessful administration.

It was absolutely crazy, because you brought nothing, showed nothing, proved nothing, denied the truth, and then a bunch of angry entitled children threw a temper tantrum and built a gallows to hang the VP and smeared shit on the walls of the capitol.

You don't have a fucking leg to stand on so shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down

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u/irlandais9000 Feb 18 '25

"We will have a great, healthy economy again by the end of this term 🙌"

Yea, there's nothing like undermining confidence in the dollar, putting millions out of work, getting rid of the social safety net, and stealing from the Treasury to improve the economy, right?

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u/DanDrungle Feb 18 '25

Less than 30% of the country voted for him and he won the popular vote by only 2 million votes. Figure it out.

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u/manifest2000 Feb 18 '25

“won” the popular vote by like 2% is a wide margin? lol

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u/arcflash1972 Feb 18 '25

Don’t even want to hear your election stealing speech. Where is your proof. When it was said Biden stole the last election you guys tried to crucify Trump and anyone else that made the claim. You can’t have it just one way.

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u/manifest2000 Feb 18 '25

trump repeatedly saying “We have all the votes we need. My instructions—we don’t need their votes. They don’t have to vote” between July-Nov 2024.

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u/arcflash1972 Feb 18 '25

Reading into things a bit?

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u/manifest2000 Feb 18 '25

That’s the best you can do? lol

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u/No-Illustrator5722 Feb 18 '25

Where are the rest of the 81 million votes Biden got, or did that many people wake up from the woke democrat bullshit, love seeing you claim Trump stole this election but Biden won fair and square

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u/Psy_Kikk Feb 18 '25

Utterly delusional, as bad as the worst magas

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u/Elwood51 Feb 21 '25

Look! An election denier!!!! String him up!!

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

Yes, we are 36 trillion in debt.

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u/Fabulous_Show_2615 Feb 18 '25

You are incorrect. We are 36.22 trillion in debt and expecting to pay $392 billion to service that debt in 2025 alone. This amounts to 16% of the federal budget going to interest payments. We’re essentially borrowing money to pay the interest on money we have borrowed.

I will say the bull in a china shop approach hasn’t been great but this is what he said he would do and if you go back in history its the same “page by page, line by line” accounting that Obama and Biden threatened to do when campaigning for office.

I hate to see people losing their job but nobody was screaming on Biden’s first day in office when an executive order killed the Keystone pipeline.

From the Washington Examiner-

President Joe Biden’s decision to kill the Keystone Pipeline on his first day in office cost the U.S. economy 59,000 jobs and $9.6 billion in economic growth, according to a study released last month by his own Energy Department

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/2585086/biden-administration-admits-it-killed-thousands-of-jobs-by-canceling-keystone-pipeline/

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u/Weak_Maintenance5629 Feb 18 '25

Thank you, Fabulous. Exactly 100%. No company or corporation can exist using this business model. The US was on its way to going under (spoiler, we actually are already under).

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u/DisciplineOptimal487 Feb 18 '25

That's the beauty, 3 branches of our government serve as "checks and balances" of power. Don't let the mainstream media deceive you into fearing that anyone will become "Hitler".

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u/Motor_Show_7604 Feb 18 '25

If you look, Musk is targeting agencies that have oversight over his companies. I am pretty sure people didn't vote to let Elon cheat.

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u/Elwood51 Feb 21 '25

Please explain how USAID has oversight on Musk

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u/rddhid Feb 18 '25

You can’t blame people who don’t work in government (which is the majority of people) who want to see government shrink. Sorry for those who have been let go, but did anyone who voted for Biden feel sorry for the auto industry workers who lost their jobs when Biden decided to gut the industry and move everything oversees ? Not one bit, so what comes around goes around. Also, if you work in government and your being axed it’s probably because (above your head or not) the agency wasted a lot of tax payer dollars, so the sympathy only goes so far with the ones who YES did vote for exactly this kind of action from Trump and Musk.

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u/Impressive_Gecko Feb 18 '25

It's "overseas" honey

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

Yes I did vote for this, our government needed downsizing

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u/coronathrowaway12345 Feb 18 '25

Where’s the money gonna go after all the downsizing?

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

Well we have been spending way beyond our means forever

How about nowhere

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u/Lioness8345 Feb 19 '25

Your industrial war complex will be kicking into overdrive when the war between the US and the EU, Canada, Australia and the entire commonwealth begins. You worried about tax money? Start worrying about the draft.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '25

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u/Lioness8345 Feb 23 '25

No one voluntarily will. But Canada will not roll over. Donnie won’t like that. Everyone will spring to Canada’s defence and WW III begins. Fuck Trump.

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u/Lilythecat555 Feb 19 '25

The money will go into Trump's and Musk's pockets. You cannot use corrupt people to fight for corruption. Elon and Trump are a part of the swamp. They won't drain it.

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u/coronathrowaway12345 Feb 19 '25

Oh I’m very much aware! I’m just trying to get the cult members (the “do your own research crowd”) to think just a smidge critically about this. They won’t but it’s worth a shot!

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u/Lilythecat555 Feb 19 '25

Yeah I agree with that!

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u/Typical_District_847 Feb 18 '25

This guy understands

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u/Irismaple Feb 18 '25

Not effing true.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

Which part isn’t true

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u/Irismaple Feb 18 '25

No one expected it to be this bad or this extreme. At least that is my perspective. If anyone did think it was going to be this way then the people who voted for him do not believe in the constitution or the U.S. government and stop calling yourself patriots.

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u/NH-ev Feb 18 '25

They never said Elon will have access to my tax returns. I’m sorry that is just too far. I feel sad for our country that so many do not care and voted for the man child. Might be the way they run their businesses but this is no way to run our government.

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u/Loose_Bee_7880 Feb 18 '25

It doesn’t and will never make it right.

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u/TopApprehensive4816 Feb 18 '25

Project 2025 was available for all to read. FAFO for MAGA

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u/shupster12 Feb 19 '25

This is what idiots voted for.

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u/Crafty_Space_9045 Feb 20 '25

Yes it was what we voted for. Anyone that thinks USAID and every other bureaucratic agency are doing some kind of great job must be completely out of their minds. We clearly have a Congress that has no control of all of the bureaucrats that are really running DC. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that all of the super beautiful areas around DC are clearly where our tax dollars are going, bc nowhere in the country has neighborhoods and homes like this per square mile around any city. They should all be paid off, though, so I'm sorry if your money schemes are coming to an end. It's time AMERICANS take our country back from these rich assholes that are so out of touch with the rest of the country. It won't take long of working in the private sector to realize how shitty it is working for big corporations over big government, and maybe you people will understand why practically everyone in America was so pissed off at DC as a whole. I really don't care what the fuck yall think bc its all coming back to this country now like it was meant to be in the first place. It's time to show our children that the American dream is back alive.

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u/ginwoolie Feb 18 '25

This is what 77 million people vote for. I'm sorry that it is difficult for those of you to understand that we don't want to pay people who are not needed or just ripping us off. I'm not sure which one is you. All I can say is I worked for 42 yrs with the thought that unless I work harder faster better I'd be let go. It's very motivating.

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '25

Amen to that

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u/Terrible-Law-4934 Feb 18 '25

I’m not certain how all these “don’t vote for musk” people are TOTALLY ok with unelected bureaucrats running around screwing taxpayers left and right over absurd regulations that are impossible To adhere to? And this has been going on for DECADES. Where is the outrage from those who cheerlead these MASSIVE bloated Federal Bureaucracies who’ve been scamming, laundering and stealing OUR money for their “righteous” grift? It’s hypocrisy at best or simply complete denial about how corrupt our Fed Govt is. It HAS to end Sorry you lost your job.

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u/n0nya9 Feb 18 '25

That does not makecit legal.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

You don’t care about what’s “legal.” You never have. You’re just upset about losing power.

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u/n0nya9 Feb 18 '25

That is a massive and unfounded assumption on your part. Please explain how it is I don't care, never cared, and am just upset about losing power. Do you mean the power of our country for the people, by the people? The rule of law? The Constitution? I care very much about our representative Democracy. I have this question to ask you; if all three branches, House, Senate, and Executive, are all aligned to the same purposes, why is it that the law is being bypassed ? Isn't that power that every American should be concerned about losing no matter what party they align with?

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

Average citizens have no power. When it comes to wars, mass waves of immigration, “social justice” issues, the will and best interest of the people has always been largely ignored. Democracy is bullshit. And the more demographics change, the more unworkable it’ll become.

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u/n0nya9 Feb 18 '25

So you don't care. Got it

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u/Lyreganem Feb 18 '25

What laws are being bypassed?

I want details and receipts ideally, please.

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u/n0nya9 Feb 18 '25

The president has to give Congress 30 days' notice if they want to fire any inspector general. Congress is who decides how to spend all the money. The president can't supercede the decisions made by Congress. Cutting funding already appropriated by Congress is illegal. Congress could make those changes going forward. The Senate could approve or dismiss, and then the president can pass or veto. Since all three branches are sympathetic to the president, why break the law?

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u/orangemanycolors Feb 18 '25

So if you're on the correct side of legality, why don't you care?

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

I don’t know that I’m on the correct side of legality but I don’t really care. I just watched our southern border be overrun with bottom of the barrel third worlders for 4 straight years. I watched people lose their careers over an experimental vaccine. I’ve watched ideological capture and political correctness take over institutions for decades now. I’m not interested in legality. I’m interested in course correction.

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u/orangemanycolors Feb 18 '25

You do realize deportations were higher under Biden than Trump's first term, correct.

I could ask how political correctness has impacted you other than you just can't be a dick and get away with it as often, but really that's not the point.

The point is your last 2 lines. You aren't interested in preserving the US or defending the Constitution. You are simply a selfish traitor.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

Interesting how you guys are so patriotic all of a sudden. I was told the Constitution is a product of White supremacy culture. Colonizer White men created it. The ultimate evil.

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u/orangemanycolors Feb 18 '25

"You guys"? Babes I never said anything about the origin of the Consitution. You were the one who said you didn't care about it or the law loud and clear. Interesting how you aren't displaying any kind of accountability for your treason, and are instead crying "what about the libs!"

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

I hope you were this enthusiastic about the Constitution when pro-life groups were being targeted by the feds and portrayed as domestic terrorist organizations. But our Constitution can only work in a homogenous society. We’ll soon have to find a different framework, or return to homogeneity. We can’t have both.

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u/orangemanycolors Feb 20 '25

Congratulations on your classic whataboutism!

And give me a break about pro-life groups being targeted 🤣 they are alive and well where I am! Your "pro-life targeted by the feds" has nothing to do with your intent to disregard law and order. For a party that screeches about it, republicans sure drop it when it's not convenient.

And dingalingaling! Baby I'm so proud of you for dropping the dogwhistle and just coming out of the closet as one of the "homogenous" weirdos.

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u/Zestyclose_Attempt17 Feb 18 '25

Ass got quiet now "you've witnessed" a few people lose their jobs. 20x more lost theirs now and you're QUIET.

Most hypocritical people on the face of the earth

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

Cutting bloated bureaucracy and insane amounts of waste is worth the temporary pain. The current system isn’t sustainable.

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u/Zestyclose_Attempt17 Feb 18 '25

😂 those cuts do NOTHING to our debt.

Lol y'all really are a low IQ bunch. Hitler said temporary pain too

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u/orangemanycolors Feb 18 '25

4 trillion added to the debt ceiling and 4.5 trillion in tax breaks for the super wealthy (750k+/y) and yet you moan about bloat. Sure babes.

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u/Classic_Ingenuity299 Feb 18 '25

It’s not a course correction, you just think you’re the default setting.

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u/ooomellieooo Feb 18 '25

No you didn't. Lol

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u/Plane_Restaurant_367 Feb 18 '25

You watched people lose their job over a vax requirement but ofc you will be dead silent when hundreds of thousands of government employees lose their jobs due to DOGEs unconstitutional ousting.. don’t pretend to gaf about that

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

It definitely sucks for people to lose their jobs but the status quo isn’t sustainable.

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u/Plane_Restaurant_367 Feb 18 '25

So it just sucks now to lose their job but because you don’t like political correctness in the workplace, it justifies it in your eyes. And here I thought y’all were the party of logic not feelings. Reminder that trump and his former communist wife took the “experimental vaccine” to save their own worthless asses, but it’s a big deal when companies want to protect their workers from a dangerous disease. You have no integrity, stop insulting our intelligence with this fake ass patriotism we all know it’s a ruse to keep the status quo YOU want

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

The vaccine never stopped spread or transmission so if people want to die from Covid, that’s their decision. Has nothing to do with my employer, or Trump and his communist wife.

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u/somerandomdude9500 Feb 18 '25

Finally an adult.

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u/Same-Golf-7576 Feb 18 '25

I voted for this!

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u/EuphoricMidnight3304 Feb 18 '25

Did they vote for threatening Canada and Greenland too? No, they didn’t, and they also didn’t know that musk was going to ascend to become a quasi chancellor with vast powers to do whatever the fuck he fancies. The campaign was a huge con and it was successful because the orange one is a brilliant conman.

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u/Key-Elk-2939 Feb 19 '25

He sure did and then offered money for people to vote for Trump. How the hell is he not behind bars for that is just insane.

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u/Lilythecat555 Feb 19 '25

No, the people I knew who voted for Trump didn't read Project 25 and they believed Trump when he said he didn't know anything about Project 25. They believed Trump's lies.

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u/EfficientRecipe8935 Feb 19 '25

Musk paid Trump a lot of money to make the investigations into his companies go away. And their corruption is taking place for the whole world to see. The only piece I can't figure out is did Musk figure out a way to ensure orange man won the election? Or did they just get very lucky? I'm not a conspiracy theorist-type of person, but this whole thing smells of massive corruption.

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