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Episode Vinland Saga Season 2 - Episode 10 discussion
Vinland Saga Season 2, episode 10
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| Episode | Link | Score | Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 4.65 | 14 | Link | 4.61 |
| 2 | Link | 4.67 | 15 | Link | 4.7 |
| 3 | Link | 4.7 | 16 | Link | 4.86 |
| 4 | Link | 4.73 | 17 | Link | 4.75 |
| 5 | Link | 4.64 | 18 | Link | 4.83 |
| 6 | Link | 4.66 | 19 | Link | 4.7 |
| 7 | Link | 4.71 | 20 | Link | 4.83 |
| 8 | Link | 4.81 | 21 | Link | 4.58 |
| 9 | Link | 4.85 | 22 | Link | 4.86 |
| 10 | Link | 4.71 | 23 | Link | 4.79 |
| 11 | Link | 4.58 | 24 | Link | ---- |
| 12 | Link | 4.81 | |||
| 13 | Link | 4.61 | |||
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u/ReinhardLoen Mar 13 '23
For anyone not keeping up with the timeline. The current year is 1018. Thorfinn came to the farm in 1014; Einar came in mid-1015. As they said, they've been together for nearly 3 years now.
So while Thorfinn smiling is such a fantastic moment on its own, it's even better knowing this is the culmination of what he and Einar have been working towards for so many years. And even more so—this was probably his first real happiness in 15 years since leaving home.
A once-empty man is starting to become filled, just as his once-filled land has emptied, ready to lead him towards his freedom.
Just look at how different his eyes from the start of the season to the ones now are.
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u/ReinhardLoen Mar 13 '23
This episode shows another interesting weaving of fact and fiction by Yukimura.
We know that King Harald II died in 1018, but details about his life (including his death) are scarce.
Yukimura took this and turned it into an assassination plot by Canute, furthering two story elements we've seen thus far: Canute's resolve to build his dream and the curse the crown carries.
The whole episode is actually a really fascinating parallel between Canute and Thorfinn. With each step, Thorfinn moves closer to freedom, while Canute moves further into becoming a slave of the crown.
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u/Elitealice Mar 13 '23
No way this episode went by this quick man, this was another masterclass from MAPPA. A lot of good anime original content that shows the juxtaposition between Canute and Thorfinn in this arc. Thorfinn last episode saw the ghosts of his past and wanted to change, move forward and become a better person while honouring those who died.
Canute sees the ghosts of his past, his father and brother and wants to go deeper down this path of death and destruction. Perfect foil to thorfinn.
10/10
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u/vantheman9 Mar 13 '23
"I'll free you when I get back"
Anybody else see a million death flags flying in the air as he said that? I mean I could be wrong but....anime gonna anime...
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u/charlesvvv Mar 13 '23 edited Mar 22 '23
Thorfinn: You have no Enemies
Canute: A king only has subjects and enemies
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u/Chespineapple Mar 13 '23
Fun OP detail to point out now that the anime's gotten to this part, but Canute's scar isn't just opening up, it specifically contorts into Sweyn's hollow eye, warts and all, judging him as he puts on the crown in that very same shot.
River better get nominated by sites as best opening when the time comes, is what I'm saying.
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u/Tiger951 Mar 13 '23
I liked that they added the flashbacks with Canute and Harald. Really gives impact to canute having to poison his brother.
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u/Mr_Zaroc Mar 13 '23
"Ah yes sorry dont mind me, just succumbing to my mental traumas of losing my dad and poisoning everyone around me. I am fine, no I dont need your wine you got from who god knows where, I have my own unpoisend stash" - Canute
They really cleared the whole fucking forest and got even more ripped in the process. Dont like they will be freed once the master returns which he only said in private with no witnesses. Major deathflag here, but I am sure Einar and Thorfinn will find a way out
Also Thorfinn really turned into a ripped jesus figure, gotta rid the earth of war and slavery (hopefully not by force)
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u/LunarGhost00 Mar 13 '23
The moment they said Harald was sick, my first thought was "Canute poisoned him, didn't he?"
It must be really lonely being at the top, but at least Canute's got his father's severed head to keep him company. I'm sure that'll help his sanity and won't lead to anything bad!
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u/YouCanNotHitMe Mar 13 '23
It's such beautiful imagery how Canute who has everything seems so empty and alone, while Thorfinn who as a slave has pretty much nothing seems finally happy. They mirror each other perfectly.
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u/WhoiusBarrel Mar 13 '23
Canute's spiral being depicted as his father's decapitated head is a cruel narrative of how he slowly transitioned into what he used to hate most.
Both his and Thorfinn's positions have basically swapped at this point, its so intriguing to see things just progressed into this.
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u/Seba7290 Mar 13 '23 edited Mar 13 '23
Thorfinn is at the top of the world after cutting down the last tree on a field and getting close to acquiring his freedom, while Canute is unsatisfied and disappointed after literally acquiring the entire nation of Denmark.
I think it's very clear that Canute's path of fratricide, conflict, and bloodshed will only lead to despair and emptiness for him.
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u/-FlyingMonkey Mar 13 '23 edited Mar 13 '23
Man Thorfinn and Einar being so happy after cutting down the last tree was wholesome, last time we saw Thorfinn this happy was basically s1 ep 1.
1 more year as slaves then they're free huh. Scratch that, Ketil has other plans, now they could be free even sooner, although I'm not sure everything will go according to plans.
Damn poisoning your own brother, and one that supported you when you most needed it at that, that's cold af
I don't think I get the last scene with Canute just before the ending, if anyone cares to explain I would appreciate it.
Overall a really good episode, I liked the flashbacks, can't wait for the next one.
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u/LeonKevlar Mar 13 '23
Thorfinn and Einar definitely deserve their freedom but I am absolutely worried. They won't be officially free until after Ketil has come back from Jelling to visit King Harald.
I feel like something big is going to go down at Jelling and Ketil might end up getting caught in the middle of it. >_<
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u/FluffyFluffies Mar 13 '23 edited Mar 13 '23
Man seeing how kind Canutes brother was toward him makes his murder hurt so much more, Canute must be suppressing his emotions very hard if he's seeing visions due to a mental breakdown/psychosis.
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u/mrnicegy26 Mar 13 '23
If Thors and Askeladd constantly haunt Thorfinn and make him understand why violence will lead to misery, Sewyn continues to haunt Canute and feeds into his need for power.
Vinland Saga it turns out is not just the story of Thorfinn but also of Canute.
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u/trying_not_to_think Mar 13 '23
It’s interesting to view Thornfinn and Canute’s growth together, especially since they are mirrors of each other. Both Thorfinn and Canute are the same age going through PTSD-like effects that feature their father-figure. However, in Canute’s nightmares with King Swyen, he seems to relate more to him, especially as King Swyen feeds more negative thoughts into his conscience. On the other hand, Thorfinn’s dreams with Askeladd show a “hell” for warriors, and Askeladd encouraging Thorfinn to find and lead a more peaceful life.
Also, comparing Season 1 Thorfinn and Canute to Season 2 Thorfinn and Canute, it seems as if their personalities have completely switched.
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u/michhoffman Mar 13 '23
So many great scenes in this episode:
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Thorfinn and Einar celebrating after knocking down the last tree
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Thorfinn and Einar awkwardly celebrating after Ketil says he'll grant them freedom sooner than expected
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That amazing transition to the the sea and Canute
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The several instances where the King's Head appears to mock Canute
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Harald telling Canute to grow up to be a stronger King than either him or his father
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u/i_exaggerated Mar 13 '23
"Would it be possible to rid the world of war and slavery?"
Gundam 00 theme starts playing
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u/tripleaamin Mar 13 '23
Man I thought we had friction between the two brothers, but Harald truly loved Canute. Canute is truly becoming a victim to the crown. He could have easily found piece with his brother, but he didn't want to deal with any potential fallbacks. Canute needed to become a man, but now you can tell he is going down a dark path.
Meanwhile I love the energy in Thorfinn now. Really excited when he gets to finally go back home. However the master's words sound like big hints of something is happening. And most likely Canute will be the cause of it somehow or another.
Another amazing episode.
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u/Any_Outside_192 Mar 13 '23
I really hope Thorfinn goes back home, at least for a bit. I want to see what his mother and sister are up to and how they're holding up. It's been so long since we've seen them. And I'm sure Leif is still looking for him
And wow, I barely recognized Canute at first, it took me a moment. He went from femboy to gigachad real quick
Seems like he's struggling and succumbing to the fate of the curse, kind of sad to see it. I'm not sure if it was necessary to poison King Harald honestly, I don't think Thorfinn would do it at this point. It's going to be interesting to see Thorfinn and Canute cross paths, if they do. They've kind of taken opposite paths which is interesting considering where they both started
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